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Trump voters are more anti-woke than libertarian

MAGA voters care deeply about cultural issues. Credit: Getty

July 31, 2023 - 8:45pm

Donald Trump is crushing Ron DeSantis because MAGA voters don’t care about the culture wars and most want the Florida Governor to lay off woke corporations. This is the upshot of commentary around the latest New York Times/Siena poll of Republican primary voters. This analysis, however, is wrongheaded — even if it contains an element of truth.

When forced to choose between two options, “a candidate who promises to fight corporations that promote ‘woke’ left ideology”, and “a candidate who says that the Government should stay out of deciding what corporations can support”, the sample broke 52-38 for the libertarian rather than anti-woke choice. This prompted Benjy Sarlin at Semafor to gleefully conclude that “fighting woke corporations, probably DeSantis’ top issue, is somehow a loser among Republicans.”

Yet the question doesn’t ask whether people agree with fighting woke corporations, but rather what they prioritise. In other words, it taps into salience rather than attitudes. To appraise Republican attitudes, consider the following from surveys I conducted or analysed in 2021. Among 2020 Trump voters, 90% said political correctness had gone too far, 69% said the law should prevent “a firm from being able to discriminate against a Trump supporter in hiring”, and 65% said that “the Government should ban forms of mandatory diversity training”. The remainder were opposed or unsure. Trump voters really are anti-woke, and many want to see Government action to combat it.

On a second set of questions, however, answers are more finely balanced. While 51% of Trump voters said that “the Government should step in to overrule tech firms that ban or suspend users for making legal but controversial statements on social media about race, gender, or sexuality,” 30% disagreed. When it came to overruling private organisations “that punish employees” for making such statements, the margin in favour narrowed to 40-35.

The New York Times poll also reveals that GOP primary voters prioritise protecting individual freedom (51%) over traditional values (40%). This tells us that suspicion of Government is a powerful idiom among many Republican voters, and can sometimes check the desire to see authority clamp down on woke organisations. Score one for the Chamber of Commerce.

But question wording is also important, and on concrete issues cued by Trump the result can change swiftly. Thus, by a 59-29 margin, the Times found that Republican primary voters prioritise “Keeping Social Security and Medicare benefits as they are” over cutting the deficit. They incline 69-17 in favour of saying that the US has lost out rather than gained from freer trade.

When asked whether society should “accept” or “NOT accept” transgender people “as the gender they identify with”, these voters break 58-30 against accepting trans people’s chosen gender. Among the core Trumpist 75% of these voters, the margin tilts 65-26. Not so libertarian.

In short, while there is an anti-Government streak in the Republican electorate, it is also a mistake to underplay the importance of the culture war issues with which they are familiar. In 2021, I found that nearly half ranked these issues (“political correctness, free speech, cancel culture, wokeness, people falsely accused of racism and sexism”) in their top three from a list of nine baskets in the figure above. It shows that the economy, Covid and immigration score higher, but religious and moral issues (a big theme during the Bush presidency) ranked lower.

A candidate who keys into these issues in a more concrete way than abstract mentions of “wokeness” can raise their importance among voters. The fact DeSantis and Glenn Youngkin successfully campaigned on the issue of critical race and gender ideology in schools while DeSantis is running second to a larger-than-life cult figure suggests these issues are going to feature prominently in the years to come.

The Florida Governor may not be able to outflank Trump on the culture wars, but in an electorate that leans two-to-one against the woke position, Republicans will be able to routinely outflank the Democrats.


Eric Kaufmann is Professor of Politics at the University of Buckingham and author of Taboo: How Making Race Sacred Led to a Cultural Revolution (Forum Press, 4 July).

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Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

I’m anti-woke in so far as much of woke ideology works against human nature and, in its megalomaniacal quest to quell all forms of oppression real or imagined, human freedoms.
Woke thinking has always existed in one form or another. It’s a mindset, not a coherent set of beliefs – one that was usually only to be found in religious zealots and neo-na**s.
The problem with woke is not the people, even though they are pretty repugnant – it’s how governments and corporations have cleverly co-opted this mindset to bully and harass ordinary citizens and employees. This is not a silly culture war; we are in the grips of a pitiless and tyrannical enemy that sees all forms of human success and flourishing outside itself as a system of competition that must either be eradicated or absorbed into and emasculated by the state apparatus.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Jules is very triggered! I bet he can’t even provide a coherent definition of “woke” other than “things that annoy Julian”!
Lets give him a few minutes to see what google comes up with for him…

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

My kingdom for an ignore button.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

My condolences. He’s very boring isn’t he.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

My condolences. He’s very boring isn’t he.

Ian Barton
Ian Barton
1 year ago

These types of comments belong on other sites – many are available. If you don’t agree with a comment, try making a well constructed counter argument. Sure it takes effort, but give it a go.

Last edited 1 year ago by Ian Barton
Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Here’s what you need to do: turn off the telly, bin the newspapers and read some books. Give it a year and then come back when you have something interesting to say.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago

You really are smug and self satisfied. So privileged to have a member the elite contributing.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

He’s welcome to borrow my definition:-
THE AUTHORITARIAN PSEUDO-PROGRESSIVE USURPATION OF LIBERALISM
primarily manifesting as:-
i. anti-White racism and the denial of black agency
ii. climate catastrophism
iii. the erasure of women and the infiltration by men of female-only spaces
iv. sadistic paedophilia.

Last edited 1 year ago by Richard Craven
Chipoko
Chipoko
1 year ago

Better to remain silent and let people think you may be a fool, rather than opening your mouth and confirming it!

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

My kingdom for an ignore button.

Ian Barton
Ian Barton
1 year ago

These types of comments belong on other sites – many are available. If you don’t agree with a comment, try making a well constructed counter argument. Sure it takes effort, but give it a go.

Last edited 1 year ago by Ian Barton
Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Here’s what you need to do: turn off the telly, bin the newspapers and read some books. Give it a year and then come back when you have something interesting to say.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago

You really are smug and self satisfied. So privileged to have a member the elite contributing.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

He’s welcome to borrow my definition:-
THE AUTHORITARIAN PSEUDO-PROGRESSIVE USURPATION OF LIBERALISM
primarily manifesting as:-
i. anti-White racism and the denial of black agency
ii. climate catastrophism
iii. the erasure of women and the infiltration by men of female-only spaces
iv. sadistic paedophilia.

Last edited 1 year ago by Richard Craven
Chipoko
Chipoko
1 year ago

Better to remain silent and let people think you may be a fool, rather than opening your mouth and confirming it!

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Progressives are using children as canon fodder in some kind of ideological march through the institutions. The adults preaching this religion have no issue causing psychological and physical suffering to
society’s most vulnerable members. It’s gross and creepy.

I generally don’t care what an adult believes, as long as they don’t impose their beliefs on other people. This is certainly not the case with progressives.

There’s also something terribly wrong when large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true. When everything becomes a social construct, nothing can be true.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

“There’s also something terribly wrong when large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true”
I suspect that Jimmy doesn’t get the irony in this statement since he will believe anything he hears from the likes of Trump. Comical!

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

Geez, another insightful and well-argued position from CS. I’ll say this again. I don’t like Trump. I didn’t like him before he entered politics and I don’t like him now. IMO he’s a sociopathic narcissist. But he’s not the cause of the rot that has infected American politics, he’s a symptom of that rot.

In fact, CS you seem to be a lot like Trump – call people names and don’t really say anything.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jim Veenbaas
j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Agree JV and concur CS did overplay the point. But to return to ‘…large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true’ – what about religion? Whilst some elements have beneficial effects the majority is utter cobblers but folks believe it and we live with it.
Thus for example – what’s the difference between someone who believes in transubstantiation and someone that whilst they may be born with 2 X Chromosomes they feel their gender is female?
Not much in my view. Harmless so long as not imposed on others.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Good point for sure and you can legit argue that I was being hyperbolic – something that annoys me, but here I am being hyperbolic. I’m probably blind to many dubious beliefs people regard as fact. Religion is one. There are probably others.

If pushed, I would probably admit to believing in God – I guess I’m a tepid agnostic – at least in the sense of a higher being. But is it possible to disprove God? I don’t think evolution disproves God. I don’t think the Big Bang Theory does either. An omnipotent being could create both those things.

I’m not sure if transubstantiation is a good example. How many Catholics actually believe this? Some do of course, but I would argue the vast majority of Catholics see it more symbolically, rather than an actual physical change.

The problem with religion was back in the day, when it imposed itself on all of society and dominated people in an authoritarian way. Today, at least in the west, it is more likely to be beneficial, creating a sense of community and positive values that enrich people’s lives.

I would argue that most progressives believe there is no truth, that everything is merely a social construct. Males are males because society has deemed this to be truth, not because of biology.

Point well taken though. Progressives aren’t the only ones who believe in things that simply are not true.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Suspect you are right on how many Catholics really believe in transubstantiation but for now it’s a fundamental part of the catechism.
Nonetheless we can be chilled about it as it’s no longer imposed and it’s up the individual. We also can be respectful regarding certain beliefs as they don’t greatly affect oneself, and why, in general, be needlessly rude about someone’s beliefs even if those are bit daft. But the moment such believers, whether religious or some gender ideologist, cross a certain line then they need to accept the push-back.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Totally agree.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

If you actually believe in God then transubstantiation is not a big deal

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

As an atheist I’m not rude about religious faith, because I understand the impulse driving the belief that there must be more to life than this, even if I don’t share it.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Totally agree.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

If you actually believe in God then transubstantiation is not a big deal

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

As an atheist I’m not rude about religious faith, because I understand the impulse driving the belief that there must be more to life than this, even if I don’t share it.

Yana Way
Yana Way
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Good point.

“The problem with religion was back in the day, when it imposed itself on all of society and dominated people in an authoritarian way.”

Woke is doing the same today. It isnt believing in being transgender that is the problem. It is demanding other people stop believing what they know is true.

I can accept that some people, for a myriad of reasons, become confused about gender and need to live life as a different gender than that they were born. I believe we must treat them as equal human beings.

I do not accept that gender is merely a fun choice for all – c’mon kids, let’s explore your gender choices.

And not only are they asking but demanding children be taught this as the new normal.

I am heretical to say this even. I know.

Last edited 1 year ago by Yana Way
Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Yana Way

An interesting parallel to this is the printing press and the internet. Religious leaders felt very threatened by the printing press and enacted all kinds of laws to prevent the spread of the printed word. Today, we have govts across the world enacting laws to highly regulate the internet, with govt and its allies enacting all sorts of laws to restrict what information we consume. It failed back then and it will fail now.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Yana Way

An interesting parallel to this is the printing press and the internet. Religious leaders felt very threatened by the printing press and enacted all kinds of laws to prevent the spread of the printed word. Today, we have govts across the world enacting laws to highly regulate the internet, with govt and its allies enacting all sorts of laws to restrict what information we consume. It failed back then and it will fail now.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

“But is it possible to disprove God?”
No. As an atheist myself, the best I can offer is an Ockamist methodological argument.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

What’s that?

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

i. The universe’s existence can be explained without recourse to a creating deity.
ii. We ought not to multiply entities unnecessarily
iii. Ergo we ought not to believe in a creating deity.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

i. The universe’s existence can be explained without recourse to a creating deity.
ii. We ought not to multiply entities unnecessarily
iii. Ergo we ought not to believe in a creating deity.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

What’s that?

j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Suspect you are right on how many Catholics really believe in transubstantiation but for now it’s a fundamental part of the catechism.
Nonetheless we can be chilled about it as it’s no longer imposed and it’s up the individual. We also can be respectful regarding certain beliefs as they don’t greatly affect oneself, and why, in general, be needlessly rude about someone’s beliefs even if those are bit daft. But the moment such believers, whether religious or some gender ideologist, cross a certain line then they need to accept the push-back.

Yana Way
Yana Way
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Good point.

“The problem with religion was back in the day, when it imposed itself on all of society and dominated people in an authoritarian way.”

Woke is doing the same today. It isnt believing in being transgender that is the problem. It is demanding other people stop believing what they know is true.

I can accept that some people, for a myriad of reasons, become confused about gender and need to live life as a different gender than that they were born. I believe we must treat them as equal human beings.

I do not accept that gender is merely a fun choice for all – c’mon kids, let’s explore your gender choices.

And not only are they asking but demanding children be taught this as the new normal.

I am heretical to say this even. I know.

Last edited 1 year ago by Yana Way
Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

“But is it possible to disprove God?”
No. As an atheist myself, the best I can offer is an Ockamist methodological argument.

Yana Way
Yana Way
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Believing in transubstantiation and teaching your child it is true will not result in your depressed teenager deciding they need to undergo surgery to fit their new perceived ideal and physically altering their body in ways that cannot be undone (especially true if their best friend did it, too).

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Yana Way

This is why I respect religion but not woke.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Yana Way

This is why I respect religion but not woke.

Lord Plasma
Lord Plasma
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Unfortunate to be downvoted so much here. The similarities between religion and woke ideology are manifold. The main one being “if you don’t agree with our unproven, unscientific fantasies then you are evil.”

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Good point for sure and you can legit argue that I was being hyperbolic – something that annoys me, but here I am being hyperbolic. I’m probably blind to many dubious beliefs people regard as fact. Religion is one. There are probably others.

If pushed, I would probably admit to believing in God – I guess I’m a tepid agnostic – at least in the sense of a higher being. But is it possible to disprove God? I don’t think evolution disproves God. I don’t think the Big Bang Theory does either. An omnipotent being could create both those things.

I’m not sure if transubstantiation is a good example. How many Catholics actually believe this? Some do of course, but I would argue the vast majority of Catholics see it more symbolically, rather than an actual physical change.

The problem with religion was back in the day, when it imposed itself on all of society and dominated people in an authoritarian way. Today, at least in the west, it is more likely to be beneficial, creating a sense of community and positive values that enrich people’s lives.

I would argue that most progressives believe there is no truth, that everything is merely a social construct. Males are males because society has deemed this to be truth, not because of biology.

Point well taken though. Progressives aren’t the only ones who believe in things that simply are not true.

Yana Way
Yana Way
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Believing in transubstantiation and teaching your child it is true will not result in your depressed teenager deciding they need to undergo surgery to fit their new perceived ideal and physically altering their body in ways that cannot be undone (especially true if their best friend did it, too).

Lord Plasma
Lord Plasma
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Unfortunate to be downvoted so much here. The similarities between religion and woke ideology are manifold. The main one being “if you don’t agree with our unproven, unscientific fantasies then you are evil.”

James S.
James S.
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

I think CS’s nom de plume says it all—likely a monied leftist who resides in places like San Francisco or Seattle, lives in a protected neighborhood, and votes for the policies that are destroying said cities without having to live with the consequences.

Last edited 1 year ago by James S.
j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Agree JV and concur CS did overplay the point. But to return to ‘…large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true’ – what about religion? Whilst some elements have beneficial effects the majority is utter cobblers but folks believe it and we live with it.
Thus for example – what’s the difference between someone who believes in transubstantiation and someone that whilst they may be born with 2 X Chromosomes they feel their gender is female?
Not much in my view. Harmless so long as not imposed on others.

James S.
James S.
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

I think CS’s nom de plume says it all—likely a monied leftist who resides in places like San Francisco or Seattle, lives in a protected neighborhood, and votes for the policies that are destroying said cities without having to live with the consequences.

Last edited 1 year ago by James S.
Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

Geez, another insightful and well-argued position from CS. I’ll say this again. I don’t like Trump. I didn’t like him before he entered politics and I don’t like him now. IMO he’s a sociopathic narcissist. But he’s not the cause of the rot that has infected American politics, he’s a symptom of that rot.

In fact, CS you seem to be a lot like Trump – call people names and don’t really say anything.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jim Veenbaas
Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

They don’t actually believe that men can become women etc. Nobody does. Not even Champagne Sociopath. They’re either adopting what they see as status beliefs, or they’re acquiescing because they have families and mortgages.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

“There’s also something terribly wrong when large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true”
I suspect that Jimmy doesn’t get the irony in this statement since he will believe anything he hears from the likes of Trump. Comical!

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

They don’t actually believe that men can become women etc. Nobody does. Not even Champagne Sociopath. They’re either adopting what they see as status beliefs, or they’re acquiescing because they have families and mortgages.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Jules is very triggered! I bet he can’t even provide a coherent definition of “woke” other than “things that annoy Julian”!
Lets give him a few minutes to see what google comes up with for him…

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Progressives are using children as canon fodder in some kind of ideological march through the institutions. The adults preaching this religion have no issue causing psychological and physical suffering to
society’s most vulnerable members. It’s gross and creepy.

I generally don’t care what an adult believes, as long as they don’t impose their beliefs on other people. This is certainly not the case with progressives.

There’s also something terribly wrong when large swathes of society believe things that simply aren’t true. When everything becomes a social construct, nothing can be true.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

I’m anti-woke in so far as much of woke ideology works against human nature and, in its megalomaniacal quest to quell all forms of oppression real or imagined, human freedoms.
Woke thinking has always existed in one form or another. It’s a mindset, not a coherent set of beliefs – one that was usually only to be found in religious zealots and neo-na**s.
The problem with woke is not the people, even though they are pretty repugnant – it’s how governments and corporations have cleverly co-opted this mindset to bully and harass ordinary citizens and employees. This is not a silly culture war; we are in the grips of a pitiless and tyrannical enemy that sees all forms of human success and flourishing outside itself as a system of competition that must either be eradicated or absorbed into and emasculated by the state apparatus.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
1 year ago

If it’s in the New York Slimes, it’s wrong. Follow this principle in your life, and you can never go wrong.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Shall we all guess what branch of the lunatic right wing echo chamber that Sammy gets his news from?!?!?
I’ll start. I think he probably thinks Breitbart has gone too communist so he listens to Steve Bannon’s podcast.
Was I close, Sam?

Last edited 1 year ago by Champagne Socialist
Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Boilerplate is boring.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Boilerplate is boring.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Anyone who “follows a principle” tends to be a bigot at best, a half-wit at worst.
You need to be wary of silo-ing yourself. See my short blog on Julie Burchill:
https://ayenaw.com/2023/07/08/the-reliably-boring-julie-burchill/

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

“Anyone who “follows a principle” tends to be a bigot at best, a half-wit at worst.”
And this is the principle which you follow.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

“Anyone who “follows a principle” tends to be a bigot at best, a half-wit at worst.”
And this is the principle which you follow.

Champagne Socialist
Champagne Socialist
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Shall we all guess what branch of the lunatic right wing echo chamber that Sammy gets his news from?!?!?
I’ll start. I think he probably thinks Breitbart has gone too communist so he listens to Steve Bannon’s podcast.
Was I close, Sam?

Last edited 1 year ago by Champagne Socialist
Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Anyone who “follows a principle” tends to be a bigot at best, a half-wit at worst.
You need to be wary of silo-ing yourself. See my short blog on Julie Burchill:
https://ayenaw.com/2023/07/08/the-reliably-boring-julie-burchill/

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
1 year ago

If it’s in the New York Slimes, it’s wrong. Follow this principle in your life, and you can never go wrong.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

I’m not American but even I can see absolutely clearly that Trump’s success is due to the greed and arrogance of the elites that now control the Democratic Party

It’s astonishing how utterly incapable of self-examination the progressive elites are – on both sides of the Atlantic.

None will even acknowledge to the slightest degree that their selfishness may play a part in phenomena like Brexit or the rise of Trump.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

I’m not American but even I can see absolutely clearly that Trump’s success is due to the greed and arrogance of the elites that now control the Democratic Party

It’s astonishing how utterly incapable of self-examination the progressive elites are – on both sides of the Atlantic.

None will even acknowledge to the slightest degree that their selfishness may play a part in phenomena like Brexit or the rise of Trump.

Michel Starenky
Michel Starenky
1 year ago

One cannot trust the New York Times on any subject, especially surveys and polls.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago

They show Trump as having a commanding lead. You think that’s incorrect, and de Santis is miles ahead in reality?

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Blatant straw man.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Blatant straw man.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago

They show Trump as having a commanding lead. You think that’s incorrect, and de Santis is miles ahead in reality?

Michel Starenky
Michel Starenky
1 year ago

One cannot trust the New York Times on any subject, especially surveys and polls.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

More posts censored by Unherd. I don’t need censors protecting me cranks like CS.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

More posts censored by Unherd. I don’t need censors protecting me cranks like CS.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee
1 year ago

“Donald Trump is crushing Ron DeSantis because MAGA voters don’t care about the culture wars and most want the Florida Governor to lay off woke corporations.” The mainstream media is endlessly capable of intentionally drawing false and absurd conclusions based on carefully phrased poll questions. Without the culture wars there would be no MAGA voters at all.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee
1 year ago

“Donald Trump is crushing Ron DeSantis because MAGA voters don’t care about the culture wars and most want the Florida Governor to lay off woke corporations.” The mainstream media is endlessly capable of intentionally drawing false and absurd conclusions based on carefully phrased poll questions. Without the culture wars there would be no MAGA voters at all.

Ardath Blauvelt
Ardath Blauvelt
1 year ago

A really deceptive poll. All share economic concerns since they can’t print money or force their neighbor to provide their desires. The missing question is purposeful: what exactly are the culture objections? Simple answer: the forcing, exploitation and consequences that follow. Most don’t care what someone does as an individual adult but when that choice becomes a social construct that requires fealty or acquiescence, and minor’s absolute agreement, those of independent mind, not groupies, hold up a caution flag. This so-called survey is all or nothing. It kind of reflects a certain mind set, don’t you think? Followers are good at that, leaders not so much.

Ardath Blauvelt
Ardath Blauvelt
1 year ago

A really deceptive poll. All share economic concerns since they can’t print money or force their neighbor to provide their desires. The missing question is purposeful: what exactly are the culture objections? Simple answer: the forcing, exploitation and consequences that follow. Most don’t care what someone does as an individual adult but when that choice becomes a social construct that requires fealty or acquiescence, and minor’s absolute agreement, those of independent mind, not groupies, hold up a caution flag. This so-called survey is all or nothing. It kind of reflects a certain mind set, don’t you think? Followers are good at that, leaders not so much.

Laura Creighton
Laura Creighton
1 year ago

Why put Covid and The Economy in the same bin?

Laura Creighton
Laura Creighton
1 year ago

Why put Covid and The Economy in the same bin?

AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago

“When forced to choose between two options, “a candidate who promises to fight corporations that promote ‘woke’ left ideology”, and “a candidate who says that the Government should stay out of deciding what corporations can support,”

Perhaps Republicans have realised that they can boycott Woke corporations themselves and don’t need a Government interface with those corporations to blur the issue?

James S.
James S.
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

And are doing so effectively with Disney, Target, Anheuser Busch, etc.

James S.
James S.
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

And are doing so effectively with Disney, Target, Anheuser Busch, etc.

AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago

“When forced to choose between two options, “a candidate who promises to fight corporations that promote ‘woke’ left ideology”, and “a candidate who says that the Government should stay out of deciding what corporations can support,”

Perhaps Republicans have realised that they can boycott Woke corporations themselves and don’t need a Government interface with those corporations to blur the issue?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

America has so many equally plausible alternatives to Trump and biden… Snaglepuss, Officer Dibble, Fred Flintstone,, Superman, Popeye?… all have big followings and similar intellectual status?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

America has so many equally plausible alternatives to Trump and biden… Snaglepuss, Officer Dibble, Fred Flintstone,, Superman, Popeye?… all have big followings and similar intellectual status?