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The cruelty of gentle parenting It neglects the dark corners of children's souls

Children aren't inherently good. Tim Graham/Getty Images

Children aren't inherently good. Tim Graham/Getty Images


December 23, 2024   9 mins

It’s the tone of voice that is the worst part. You know the voice. “What kind of choice do we want to make, Aiden?” “Ella, we use gentle voices with each other.” “Liam, do you think your behaviour makes Luna feel safe?”

Gentle parenting, or conscious parenting, professes to foster compassion and emotional self-understanding in a child. It’s about respecting the emotions of a child and the motivations behind those emotions. If a child has a tantrum, hits, or generally misbehaves, it is because she is frustrated — and a parent’s job is to address the root cause of the child’s frustrations. A child should be understood, never punished. This is because for a gentle parent, children aren’t bad. They aren’t even neutral. They are inherently good. As a mother myself to two teenagers, this is news.

Punishment, in the gentle mindset, focuses the attention on an unnatural consequence rather than on the motivations for behaviour. No motivation is bad, because no feeling originates in one’s selfishness, one’s greed, or one’s desire to dominate. Anger and inappropriate behaviour are caused by frustration: the frustration of not being understood, of not being able to accomplish what one wishes, of not being able to freely do what one wants. When a child experiences a curb to their will, the parent needs to offer comfort. Instead of punishment, a child should face the “natural consequences” of her choices. For instance, if a child refuses to go to sleep, this means that she suffers the natural consequence of getting tired and cranky.

A natural consequence of my own kids acting cranky is that I might lose my shit on them, but I don’t get the impression that gentle parents are encouraged to act naturally. This brings us back to the insufferable tone of voice that gentle parents all seem to use with children, particularly those millennial mom influencers on social media. My aversion to it is that there is a fake niceness to their wheedling that anyone can see through, including most four-year-olds. It is patronising, and reveals a deep annoyance with children but prohibits any kind of genuine expression of it. One can’t get angry with a child because he is not doing anything bad because he is inherently good. What is needed is to redirect his natural self-expression to a more socially accepted choice, one that will result in Mommy speaking to you with more authentic niceness.

Gentle parenting flattens the human experience into a series of choice options, none of which reflect any natural goodness or badness in the child, but which instead represent optimal or less optimal outcomes. This is crude behaviourist psychology, treating the human as a kind of input-output machine. Under this model, gentle parenting ignores the depth and complexity of a child’s soul — including the baseness therein — and, because it ignores it, the technique also fails to nurture the depth of a child’s soul, resulting in, unsurprisingly, children who have shallow souls. A child is denied her full humanity as a moral agent, and treated not as an equal, but as somehow less than fully, richly, terribly human. In short, as the little shits they are, yet having a spark of the divine. Just like Mom.

“Gentle parenting ignores the depth and complexity of a child’s soul.”

What happens if a child feels himself to be bad, let’s say, by wanting to hurt another child in order to feel a sense of power, satisfaction, and maybe even glee? In that case we must ignore that part of the child’s soul that has those instinctive feelings, both of “naughtiness” and of the corresponding guilt and shame. As this might imply that his feelings are bad, and so he deserves to be punished. Since gentle parenting has no capacity for talking to a child about wickedness, guilt, and punishment, it also has no ability to speak about redemption.

There are significant problems with this approach to parenting and with its results. The most obvious criticism is that instead of raising resilient children, gentle parenting often does the opposite, making kids more fragile, more averse to ideas that don’t align with their own, and less competent in the world.

But the real problem with gentle parenting is that it removes moral freedom from a child because it refuses to accept the moral depth of a child. Punishment is unnecessary because the child is never bad, merely misunderstood. While gentle parenting concedes that a child’s behaviour might be less or more appropriate, well-socialised, and safe, it doesn’t concede that a child’s motivations might originate in wickedness just as easily as goodness. Nor does it accept that a child’s will should be curbed because it is often corrupted in its desires, not simply frustrated.

In neglecting the dark corners of a child’s soul, gentle parenting does children a disservice. For the fact is that most children know that they’re sometimes bad, and that they sometimes do things out of malice, spite, and greed. Gentle parents are right: shame and guilt are negative feelings which may cause “trauma” for the child, as for the adult. No kidding. But the job of the parent is not to prevent any potential “trauma”, it is to love the child even when they are bad, and to punish them, and most importantly to forgive them. A child can’t understand the lightness of forgiveness without understanding first that one needs it. (I often wonder if the parents also want to avoid the “trauma” of guilt and shame, and so never acknowledge their own reasons for doing the things we do, such as becoming parenting “philosophy” consumers out of vanity, pride, or sloth. We may one day have good reason to ask forgiveness from our kids.)

Forgiveness is the precursor to redemption, a transformation that happens on the inside. A child becomes an individual moral agent only through the transformative process of parental punishment and forgiveness. It is an act of faith on behalf of the parent which calls out the inner goodness of a child while punishing the badness. Faith in the good is precisely what calls out this punishment. Somehow this doesn’t quite work if one holds goodness as the granted condition of the child, for then there is no faith required, no moment of uncertainty that is the ground of trust. There is no view of the child as an autonomous moral agent, and thus it offers no space for a child to grow.

Since the age of Shakespeare, most of our great literary villains have had depth, reasons for their villainy, motivations that we can sympathise with, even be attracted to. Yet we can also see that they’re villainous because they choose to be. Shakespeare gives his villains and his tragic heroes dignity by granting them their awful humanity. And he shows that it is only because his villains do wicked things willingly that they can be redeemed; the freedom to sin is the precursor for the unlooked-for miracle of redemption, the gift of loving forgiveness is accepted only because one knows he does not deserve it. Rather than teach a child that her soul is good, a child must come to understand her own capacity for wickedness and understand the need for punishment, because only then can she accept the anxiety-eliminating joy of redemption.

Ironically, it is the avoidance of punishment that may very well cause anxiousness in the child, for the work of making oneself more socially appropriate is never done, but punishment has a fixed term. In C.S. Lewis’s prescient novel That Hideous Strength, he writes of the progressive project of eliminating punishment. “You got to get the ordinary man into the state in which he says ‘Sadism’ when he hears the word ‘Punishment’,” says the female leader of the new progressive police force, one Officer Hardcastle. She goes on to explain that “what has hampered every English police force up to date was precisely the idea of deserved punishment. For desert was always finite: you could do so much to the criminal and no more. Remedial treatment, on the other hand, need have no fixed limit; it could go on till it has affected a cure, and those who were carrying it out would decide when that was.”

Of course, it would be unfair to compare the job of a parent, which truly is never done, to the task of the judicial system in meting out punishment. But Hardcastle’s basic philosophy is the same: gentle parenting’s rubric of offering more or less socially accepted choice options but not punishment puts a child under the constant pressure to always be under remedial anxieties. The alternative is that she becomes so immune to these anxieties that she ceases to feel them internally, and instead she comes to genuinely expect that the world will conform to her inner feelings. This is perhaps close to what we see with much of contemporary grievance culture. It is now society that is put under the self-scrutinising anxieties of constant remediation. And who will decide when the cure for social ills has been met? Perhaps the angry blue-haired 19-year olds will let us know.

In parenting, it is redemption that should be the focus, a deepening of the human soul that comes from humility and transforms from the inside. The irony of the conscious parenting ethos is that while it purports to understand the child, it has a blind spot for understanding the nature of the human soul. And that with its focus on behaviour rather than on badness, the gentle parent contributes to anxiety rather than alleviating it.

If a view that focuses on the badness of the human soul and its need for forgiveness sounds Christian, that is because it is. Christianity is based on the idea that human nature is corrupt, or rather, that it has been corrupted. It also tells that there should be justice for wrongdoings, that evil acts should be punished because the evil acts originate in the baseness of the human heart. Of course, this isn’t simply Christian. The ancient and even recent world shared this sense of the need for punishing those who do wrong. When we punish an individual it is not exclusively about re-educating him into socially accepted forms of behaviour, but about giving some satisfaction, some justice, to the wronged party. If Kevin hits Johnny, it is all very well for us to encourage both of them to get over it, though of course a “natural consequence” of the hitting might be that Johnny no longer wants to play with Kevin. But “natural consequences” don’t apply in the adult world. We not only do children a disservice if we don’t administer symbolic punishments for their actions, we also don’t treat them as competent humans, capable of entering into the symbolic nature of civilisation. The “natural consequence” of someone doing the unspeakable and murdering my child, for instance, might be that I tear his throat out with my bare teeth. But we instead give the criminal a symbolic punishment of a prison term of 25 years, an arbitrary number that is supposed to answer some demand for justice and some demand for impartiality. “Natural consequence” would see a society spiral into vengeance; symbolic punishments save us from this.

In fact there is a “natural consequence” of understanding the dark shadow of one’s soul and the ache for forgiveness. That is why redemption is the constant theme of great stories, from St. Paul to King Lear to Darth Vader. But even in Christian gentle parenting circles, parents whitewash the central tenets of Christianity in their efforts not to traumatise a child by mentioning sin or punishment. Consider these comments by Anna Skates, a children’s church minister and conscious parenting influencer. She won’t say: “Jesus died for you/your sins.” Instead, she favours a gentle approach: “While I realise that statement won’t psychologically damage every kid, if it damages ONE, it’s not worth using. Period… And the reality is, Jesus didn’t die specifically for your kid. I know that’s a bit blunt but technically — Jesus died publicly and grotesquely because he was a political and religious threat to those in power.” What a dim view Skates takes of a child’s intellect and capacity for handling emotionally difficult concepts. Rather than allow a difficult idea to be presented to a child, she assumes that a safe intellectual space is more sacred than a deep one.

Skates goes on to discuss her discomfort with saying that “God wanted Jesus to die” (in itself the wrong way entirely to frame the issue, and not something a theologian would say). “To attempt to teach the concept of a loving God,” Skates writes, “while also delivering this narrative is confusing and jarring. This also makes the concept of ‘following Jesus’ much more ominous and threatening than it should be.”

“More ominous than it should be”? I am not sure what cheery cupcake-Bible Skates is reading, but in the one I have, most of the disciples and apostles are killed, horribly, because of their faith. And even while they lived they followed Jesus’s injunction to take up their crosses and follow him, something every Christian is commanded to do. Christianity is ominous and threatening. It asks for nothing more than your life. It is life-giving precisely because the Christian is asked to dare all and risk all, because she has faith in her redemption, a faith which gives her joy and freedom. “Conscious parenting” influencers like Skates have an impoverished view of children, one that assumes that they have no intellectual or emotional depth, and so deprive them of the very narratives that will form this depth within them.

We are in the season of Advent. The church lights an Advent candle each Sunday before Christmas: one for hope, one for peace, one for joy and one for love. But until recently, at least until the 20th century, Christians were told to think on four other things during this season: on death, judgement, heaven, and hell. Not very gentle, or very merry. It is a scary religion. And rightly so. Death is not a metaphor. And punishment is something we all have deserved. Holy terrors. Good. I don’t want a gentle Father, one who speaks down to me in a condescending way. I want to worship a God who puts the fear of God in me, who has enough faith in me to show me my own wickedness and the judgement that I deserve, and then who will give to me instead of punishment, a baby, soft and small and lying in a manger.


Marilyn Simon is a Shakespeare scholar and university instructor. She writes the substack Submission


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Alcina Ward
Alcina Ward
24 days ago

Classic straw man. Positive parenting is great if not overused.

As a mum of 3 little girls, I must say all the verbiage about dark corners of souls rather passes me by. I’m more focused on encouraging proper table manners and collaborative play. On that basis, I’ve found some of the ideas of “Positive Parenting” extremely useful, particularly when dealing with tantrums. It’s basic psychology – works on adults too! – admit the validity of anothers’ perspective and it acts like a magic key to defuse their anger. Like anything though, it can be overused. Concepts of absolute good and bad are also important. Moral relativism is a path to madness. I don’t know any parents who’d disagree.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

Your children are still small, just you wait….

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

Well said. I found the arguments in this piece rather overwrought, not least when it ventured into the territory of Christian “original sin”.

It’s possible to be fully cognisant of the capacity for good or bad inherent in every human being, without recourse to some imaginary “saviour”.

John Tyler
John Tyler
24 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Yes, of course it is, but without the “imaginary saviour”, or more precisely the moral code from this authority, good and bad become purely relative and change with political and philosophical moods.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
24 days ago
Reply to  John Tyler

Or… according to which religion you adhere to, which itself is the most destructive force in the world today. Hence, i adhere to none, and abhor the sanctimony that results from them.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
23 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

I’m not sure I understand just what you mean here. Are you saying Christianity is the most destructive force, or that any religion at all is?Without tarring all with the same brush, I’d say zealotry is decidedly more evident among some Muslims at present.

But in any case I’d like to know what you observe to result when all religion is cast out as if it’s mere bath water, with no baby inside. Like in communist dictatorships or cesspools of greed and runaway lust.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
24 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Elsewhere, C S Lewis observed that when something has a sense of Self it is always in competition with other Selves.
As it gradually dawns on small children that they have such a Self, they begin to exercise it. Due to their inexperience, the manner in which this is done has sharp edges.
This use of the possession of a Self is neither good nor bad. It is either directed towards one’s own Self or towards another’s. The image of taking up one’s Cross that the author mentions is the denial of one’s own Self.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
24 days ago

Yes, i know, i’ve studied these things all my life. I was trying to make a relatively short comment without going into all the complexities.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
23 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Avoid the complexities. Isn’t that part of the underlying problem of the world today? People want neatly packaged, brief, all encompassing answers with no ragged edges. And it had best not take more than 0.5 seconds to load or more than 30 seconds to read.

Next!

David Morley
David Morley
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

Sounds sensible to me. Use what works, reject what doesn’t, don’t tie yourself into knots over it. Aim to be a good enough parent, and don’t beat yourself up if you fall short sometimes.

And let your kids realise that they have to fit in with adults – that the world doesn’t just revolve around them (it’s what the French do).

John Tyler
John Tyler
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

“Moral relativism is a path to madness. I don’t know any parents who’d disagree.”
Blimey! I’ve come across shedloads of parents who when asked about relative moralism would have no idea what you were on about. They’d still be relative moralists though, because society has become totally infected by post-modernism.

andy young
andy young
23 days ago
Reply to  John Tyler

Yes, life was simpler when I was growing up. You know kids were very different then. They didn’t have their heads filled with all this Cartesian Dualism.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

The author’s point is that this tactic IS overused, to the exclusion of all other manners of parenting that have proven themselves useful through the generations. Where is the straw man in that?

John Galt
John Galt
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

I’m glad gentle parenting works for you. In my experience many “gentle” parents end up raising kids that are self-centered and emotionally fragile, as well as whiny.

Maybe it works, but just yesterday my little girl was being irreverent in Church and throwing a tantrum so I took her to an empty room and tried to talk to her. Here response was to scream louder. So the response was me and her were going to go sit in the car if she can’t calm down. That did calm her down.

Here’s the problem I see with the gentle parenting is that it teaches kids that they should expect others to acknowledge and care about their emotions. When the simple fact of the matter is the majority of people you meet will hardly ever think about you, and almost no one will care about how you feel. Your boss doesn’t care if you’re feeling frustrated because you had a fight with your spouse, they care about you getting your dang job done. The cashier at the grocery store doesn’t care about my day they just want me to take my stuff and go. Whereas “gentle” parenting seems to want to turn every human interaction into a group therapy session and I just don’t know how that will work out in the long term.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
24 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

Starting with parenting and eliding it with C S Lewis’s novel is jarring and looks contrived. If not a little rambling.
The lady appears to have forgotten that Jesus of Nazareth held up small children as exemplars of the kingdom of heaven. Small children copy their parents exactly and trust them implicitly. When engaged in any task, they display a formidable single-mindedness. This is Jesus’s relationship with His heavenly Father.

David Morley
David Morley
24 days ago

Jesus of Nazareth held up small children as exemplars of the kingdom of heaven

Jesus didn’t have kids!

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
23 days ago
Reply to  David Morley

Good one. He “suffered” the little ones to come unto him, but didn’t have to worry about their meals and nap times, etc. Nor was he the most obedient child in any conventional sense.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
22 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

You are so wrong about this, but I expect it’s useless to talk to you. Sadly, you are obviously the sort of parent who only learns by personal experience and has no interest in what has been proven over generations.
Children are not delicate blank states to be carefully wired in with endless patience and understanding.
They are immature primates and for the sake of their survival, need to have all sides of themselves dealt with when parenting.
I’m not particularly religious, but that is what is meant by sin I think, controlling the beast within. The social contract is that I protect you from my primitive side and you protect me from yours. If you are never allowed to acknowledge it and know what it is how can you?
I know you won’t agree with this, but when your lovely three little girls become adults, what you left out will definitely show.
I say this as a psychologist as well as a mother. One of the greatest compliments I ever had from my daughter was when she grew up. She said at the time, I hated you for not letting me do all the things my friends were doing from the age of about fourteen up. They used to say I shouldn’t accept strict rules from you and should do my own thing. Now I’m in my twenties, I’m so glad I don’t have some of the awful experiences in my head that they have.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
20 days ago
Reply to  Alcina Ward

Gentle parenting is successful with basic manners but when I witness another five -year-old holding my son’s head under the water with his arms flailing to get up…I don’t want to hear his story. In return when my child is mean, and yes they are knowingly mean, and hurts another child, there is an immediate consequence of my own making- Not a natural consequence.
If we do not discipline ” bad” behavior, despite the reason, we are breeding criminals.

laura m
laura m
24 days ago

Meanwhile…. the people attracted to “conscious” parenting are often the same people who literally PUNISH their own parents with heavy handed “boundaries” and rules cutting them out of their grandkids lives.

J Bryant
J Bryant
24 days ago

Great essay.
More than anything, this essay convinces me we’re living in a decadent society; a society in its over-ripened end stage.
More than ever, I find secret joy in Betjeman’s famous phrase, “Fall friendly bombs…”
Fall friendly bombs on cities: they aren’t fit for people now.
Let the bombs extinguish the deep, plush cushion of hypertrophied civilization. Let the bombs make us forage for our daily bread, fight for our place on earth, fornicate mindlessly to create a new generation that will care for us in old age.
Let the bombs return us to a nasty, brutish past, not because it’s inherently good, or in some abstract sense ethically better than our present state, but because it’s what we’re made for. It’s where we’ll flourish or die, and it’s where the entire human community would laugh raucously at the concept of gentle parenting.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
24 days ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Until the next time?

Following your argument, it’d just become a repeated cycle, so what would be the point?

No! Fight for what needs to be changed now. We’re not all “Slough”.

David Morley
David Morley
24 days ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Sounds like you are wishing it on. A sure sign of decadence.

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
24 days ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Cheery poem, no doubt, but it sounded way better when Morrissey did it in “Everyday is Like Sunday.”

John Tyler
John Tyler
24 days ago
Reply to  J Bryant

A slight over-reaction perhaps?! I know why you mean though!

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
23 days ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Merry Christmas to you too, you should seriously consider getting help next year

David Morley
David Morley
24 days ago

Christianity is based on the idea that human nature is corrupt, or rather, that it has been corrupted.

This is where we need care. While parents a few generations back were more willing to punish and admonish, they were also more accepting that kids were just kids – without the language of corruption.

If kids went scrumping (stealing apples from an orchard or garden) this was wrong, but it was also just what kids did. If boys fought, they needed to be broken up and talked to – but boys were just boys. It wasn’t “toxic masculinity”, one of our modern versions of corruption.

What we need to do is guide and punish as necessary with the aim of producing good adults – without all the heavy religiosity (secular or not) of seeing normal children’s and adolescents behaviour as signs of corruption and evil.

AC Harper
AC Harper
24 days ago
Reply to  David Morley

Unfortunately the leftish stance is still that people are born as ‘blank slates’ and may be ‘civilized’ by worthy education. This is an error and (surprise) decidedly against religious principles that human nature is corrupt.

David Morley
David Morley
24 days ago
Reply to  AC Harper

I kind of agree – though I see it the opposite way.

Because of the belief in a blank slate and the denial of any kind of human nature, we see perfectly natural behaviours as signs of corruption. We lay a heavy moral stress on behaviours which may not be great but are really pretty normal.

Ours is actually a very moralising age.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
23 days ago
Reply to  David Morley

Nice framing—but not too nice. I think we can agree that our inherited nature, at the individual or collective level, is neither a garden paradise nor “an unweeded garden that grows to seed”, merely “rank and gross”. The Shakespeare scholar author leans a bit too much into Hamlet’s aggrieved and cynical outlook, methinks. Of course we aren’t tabulas rasa or hard drives wiped clean either. Observing the often sharp differences in children from the same two parents—or from different parents but raised in the household—should show us that. As I like to quip: Is it nature or nurture? Yes, it is.

We are all mixed bags of a varied sort and not every kid responds as well or as poorly to either the carrot or the stick. No single philosophy of parenting or human nature works perfectly for every child. Nothing works perfectly for any child.

We can love and forgive our children and parents alike without turning the same cheek at the same angle—especially in public! Merry Christmas.

John Tyler
John Tyler
24 days ago
Reply to  AC Harper

Agreed, except that “human nature is corrupt”. As the author corrects herself: it has ben corrupted. That is not the same; the implication is that it can be restored to its natural uncorrupted state through divine intervention.

Tony Buck
Tony Buck
24 days ago
Reply to  John Tyler

Let’s hope so.

Otherwise the corruption – the rottenness – will worsen, until it becomes total.

As is happening in Western societies at the present.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
24 days ago
Reply to  David Morley

If a man ceases to believe in God, he will not therefore believe in nothing, he will become capable of believing in anything. –G.K. Chesterton
In the absence of an established moral culture and commonly accepted culturally defined definitions of what is good, decent, and acceptable, people will simply make up something new to fill that emotional/spiritual/psychological need, hence the concepts of ‘woke’ and ‘social justice’ that have so captured the hearts and minds of a generation of over-sheltered children who now expect the world to conform to their ideals. True believers in CRT, wokeness, DEI, etc. are simply religious zealots without any pretense of having any divine inspiration. Doesn’t stop them from punishing sinners or conducting witch trials. In their determination to ‘cancel’ views that offend them or question their dogmas, they show the same intolerance, the same enthusiasm for punishment, and the same narrow minded focus, as the inquisitors who sought to eradicate heresy from the Catholic Church. What I don’t understand is how they can fail to see it given their low opinion of traditional religion. The most dangerous villain is the one convinced of his own righteousness.

Even your statement about the aim of parenting, producing good adults, begs the question of what you mean by good. The moral dimension cannot simply be wished away because it makes us uncomfortable or because it cannot be formulated into a hypothesis and then tested by experiment or computer simulation. Somebody or everybody ultimately has to decide what being a ‘good’ person actually entails. If a society doesn’t pick some older moral/religious framework, then people will invent a new one, or more likely several new ones with irreconcilable differences that will spawn conflicts. One cannot change the human condition.

Denis Stone
Denis Stone
24 days ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

Brilliant.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
22 days ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

Well stated Steve. I do think the original sense of the term “woke”, as used non mockingly among black Americans, does make a pretense or implied claim of an awakening or revelation, even if it’s of a grim and secular kind.

We cannot change human nature writ large, true. But if ten more people in a city of a million approach the best version of their nature—or “second nature”—that city will become a much better place. (My evidence? Don’t have any right now, but give me a holiday break?).

Our nature is not fixed, for example, in mere tribalism, though I allow that some of that is hardwired at the family and external demographic level. And while present-day “cancellations” may be swift and vicious, similar in kind to the Inquisition, they are not alike in scale—at least I have not seen many actual killings, let alone burnings at the stake for “problematic” speech. Also, now that the tide has turned many may feel the truth of this sentence: “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you” (Matthew 7:2, NIV)

Merry Christmas

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
20 days ago
Reply to  AJ Mac

I think even as originally intended, woke involved a psychologically unhealthy and spiritually dangerous level of conceit. Moreover it already implied an agreement with a narrow minded view of the world that elevates race and racism above all other concerns. I have an instinctive mistrust of extremes.
I applaud your optimism though. Surely the world needs hopeful optimistic people like yourself more than it does bitter and cynical souls who long ago gave up on any hope of ‘making the world a better place’. I wish you success, though you know I can’t honestly bring myself to believe you’ll succeed. I expect rather that avoiding disaster is as likely to be a result of some combination of random chance and tte fact that we’re all equally prone to error, whatever our intentions.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
21 days ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

I have a fairly minimalist conception of the aim of parenting: producing kids who are pleasant to be around. A bit of cheeky mischief certainly doesn’t go amiss, but what I am completely at a loss to understand is the tolerance of high-pitched screaming. Why is this allowed??!?

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
20 days ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I do not know Richard. As God as my witness, I do not know why the screaming is tolerated. I can only guess that anyone who doesn’t already possess the patience of a saint and/or is dispossessed of their sense of hearing has been sufficiently dissuaded from producing children in the first place. Coming from a generation that had ‘sit still’ and ‘be quiet’ drilled into us over and above any other notions of morality and proper behavior, I cannot fathom what has changed in so short a time. The whys and the wherefores elude me as well, though I share in your distaste for the end results.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
18 days ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

Hello again Steve. I raised two children myself – they’re either side of 30 now – and always made it absolutely clear that screaming was not to be tolerated. Meanwhile, there is a Kurdish family with four young girls living in the emergency housing across the road from me, who as I type this are kicking a football around in their front yard, while the youngest of their number, probably about 5 years old, emits ear-splitting screams every 20 seconds or so. I can feel my blood pressure going through the roof.

Kevin Godwin
Kevin Godwin
18 days ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I feel for your plight. A constantly barking dog has the same effect. Little everyday things that affects one’s quality of life.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
17 days ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I have no children myself but I have some nieces and nephews. For the most part, my brother and sister-in-law are good attentive parents. They fit the mold of helicopter parents always monitoring everything about the child’s well being. The level of their efforts in child rearing is above reproach. Yet, for whatever reason, they don’t make much of an effort to rein in the volume of the kids play or make them take it outside. It’s hard to even have a conversation when they’re in the room. It’s gotten somewhat better as they’ve gotten older. There was a period when their living room sounded like the monkey house at the zoo pretty much constantly. I just don’t get it. Is there some rule in one of those modern psychobabble parenting manuals that suggests children shouldn’t be restricted to low volumes. At least your Kurdish family is making their kids take their noise outside. Imagine the same ear-splitting scream six feet away in an enclosed space rather than outside across the street.

Ray Andrews
Ray Andrews
23 days ago
Reply to  David Morley

That’s a very good point David. I was a free range kid — I had huge latitude, OTOH there were very clear limits and very clear consequences if I stepped outside them. But I was expected to be a boy and to do the things boys do. I might have had the occasional spanking, but I wasn’t subjected to psychological torture, let alone encouraged to explore my gender choices.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
21 days ago
Reply to  Ray Andrews

Psychological torture is certainly the correct definition for the wheedling gentle parenting voice described at the beginning of the article.

Mark O'Neill
Mark O'Neill
24 days ago

Parenting should both soften you and harden you at the same time.

You can melt at the sight of one of them tucked up in their beds but you’d better stiffen up when they get out of line.

This is your duty as a parent

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
24 days ago
Reply to  Mark O'Neill

There is also nothing wrong with learning from natural consequences. It’s the parents/adults that protect their children from any consequences that are the problem!
I work with a child that refuses to wash, the kid stinks. The natural consequence of this should be that the other children refuse to play with him because of it and call him stinky but they don’t because they’re scared of getting trouble for being mean.
we seem to take snippets of psychology that apply to serious cases and think it will work wonders on those that don’t need it. It doesn’t!
People also think that being nurturing is all about being gentle, it’s not, it’s about preparing then for adulthood in a balanced way.

John Tyler
John Tyler
24 days ago
Reply to  Mark O'Neill

YES

Graham Strugnell
Graham Strugnell
24 days ago

One sees too often kids behaving badly and parents ignoring it. Parents no longer want to be parents; they want to be friends and property owners of living real estate. William Golding was right. The choirboy contains the murderer under the costume of piety.

Chipoko
Chipoko
24 days ago

My kids each had one tantrum and one related smack (firm but not designed to cause pain). Neither never behaved badly ever again and both evolved into the most wonderful people from childhood into maturity. One is now a senior medical consultant; the other is a successful dentist. They were brought up to behave and to respect other people. It’s that simple really!

El Uro
El Uro
24 days ago
Reply to  Chipoko

It’s that simple really! – Just for those who are not engaged in philosophy 🙂
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By the way, in you I found a like-minded person with an identical story.

Chipoko
Chipoko
23 days ago
Reply to  El Uro

Thank you!

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
23 days ago
Reply to  Chipoko

Saints from the first smack. Nice holiday fable.

El Uro
El Uro
21 days ago
Reply to  AJ Mac

In the specific case of the child’s tantrum, we both told a completely real story.
Generally speaking, raising children is not only about fighting tantrums, and you also need to keep in mind that children are raised by how you behave, not what you say.

Umm Spike
Umm Spike
24 days ago

Thank you. This piece perfectly articulates what has been bothering me about conscious parenting for a while now. Bottom line: it doesn’t treat children as people. It’s no wonder we’re turning young people into monsters these days.

Gregory Toews
Gregory Toews
24 days ago

Thank you for restating the obvious. We westerners (thank you, Rousseau) conjured up this bizarre, “authentic, inner self”, as we say today. It’s the very fact that it’s “inner” that makes it authentic, and incapable of error. A 2 yr old throwing a tantrum on the supermarket floor is, ironically, perhaps the most authentic human we’ll ever see. Our culture’s survival depends on our ability to rein in the diabolical (an un-ironic term) self.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
24 days ago

gentle parenting ignores the depth and complexity of a child’s soul
It also greatly complicates a very simple thing: actions have consequences. The sooner kids learn that, the better off they will be. They will become resilient, understand that things do not always go their way, that the rights of others matter as much as their own, and that they are not porcelain figurines who will break at the first sign of adversity.
The results of NOT understanding this are evident today in college campus “safe rooms,” people freaking out over ideas contrary to theirs, the explosion of alleged ‘mental health’ issues among 20-somethings, and the overall slowdown in reaching maturity.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
22 days ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

There is no slow down in reaching maturity. The problem is that children are prevented from getting there, either by their parents or the state.
It makes them more biddable to ridiculous ideas, dressed up as understanding and goodness.

Graham Cunningham
Graham Cunningham
24 days ago

The delusions that underlie the “gentle parenting” described in this essay go all the way back to Rousseau. They perhaps reached their madness apogee with A S Neill’s Summerhill school where spoilt rich kids were indulged to the point of smashing up their school buildings because that was a ‘learning experience’. https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/stairway-to-equiheaven. “When I was growing up in the ’50s there were still some remnants of the old Christian moral sense that we all need to hope for forgiveness of our sins. You might ritually do this before a meal or starting the school day or going to bed. It was, for the great majority, only a residual habit but nevertheless its moral conception of The Good Life was still in the atmosphere…. just about. Prior to the 60s there was a latent sense that everyone (including oneself) has a Good Side and a Bad Side. A sense that we are all capable of good deeds but also that all of us are prone to sin and error”. That is what good parenting instills.

Chris J
Chris J
24 days ago

I knew three adults who went to Summerhill. Not rich and very well aware that they were not more important than others. They were the most well-rounded people I have known.

Graham Cunningham
Graham Cunningham
24 days ago
Reply to  Chris J

Chalk and cheese. I was referring to the ultra-radical school that A S Neill founded and ran during his lifetime….he died in 1973. After his time the school then evolved into something more conventional. The school that your people attended would have been (I’m guessing) a very different kettle of fish.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
24 days ago

I’m not sure that eliding parenting with Christianity in Advent is of use. It’s like starting talking about cheese and ending with a toasted chalk sandwich.
Parenting children was not the idea that C S Lewis had in mind when writing That Hideous Strength. To begin a lengthy article about parenting and suddenly finding Lewis inserted into it is jarring and looks contrived.
And let it be noted that Jesus of Nazareth held up children as exemplars of the kingdom of heaven. Small children copy their parents exactly and trust them implicitly. Also, when engaged in any task they display a formidable single-mindedness. All this was the attitude of Jesus in His relationship with His heavenly Father.
Lewis’s novel is framed on dualism. That’s not an orthodox Christian view. Every character in one camp – the progressive and the Christian – has a counterpart in the other.
Hardcastle of the progressive faction – names are important in Lewis’s story – has a counterpart in Grace Ironwood of the Christian camp. The latter has a personal history that is hinted at as being similar to Hardcastle’s (the latter was in the BUF), and they both interrogate a subject. However, Grace Ironwood has been saved by grace (iron and wood being the components of the Cross).
Elsewhere, Lewis observed that as soon as something has a Self, it is always in competition with other Selves. As it begins to dawn on children that they have that Self, they begin to exercise it, often with social imperfections due to their minimal experience.
Taking up the Cross is not a means of self-control. As if we were to suffer privation today for reward tomorrow, or subdue the baser elements of our nature by use of the higher. Nor is it an imposed burden. The image speaks of a carrying of an instrument with a particular purpose to a place for a definite use. That is, to deny the Self and its desires.
I don’t want a gentle Father, one who speaks down to me in a condescending way. Well, that condescension would offend the sense of Self. Instead, how about the love of God that passes all understanding?
The Christmas spirit does not rest on fear. This would be as much a misreading of the Scriptures as it would be of Dickens’s A Christmas Carol. Even when Scrooge meets the very unChristmassy third spirit, he says he hopes to live as a better man. The Christmas – the Christian – spirit rests on hope.

Gregory Toews
Gregory Toews
24 days ago

Secular religiosity? Isn’t that like dry water? It seems you’re proposing to not have your cake and not eat it.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
24 days ago

In the Greek original of the Bible, the word translated as ‘punishment’ was also used to mean pruning.
When a tree or vine is pruned, it is to give it a healthier shape or to encourage it to flower and fruit more abundantly.
When applied to people, and in particular to children, the purpose of ‘punishment’ becomes obvious.

Carol Staines
Carol Staines
24 days ago

The worst thing for me in relation to gentle parenting is the silly, whiney voice many of the parents use to talk to their misbehaving offspring.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
21 days ago
Reply to  Carol Staines

100%.

El Uro
El Uro
24 days ago

“gentle parenting ignores the depth and complexity of a child’s soul”
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Nonsense! Soft upbringing deprives a child of the knowledge of what is good and what is bad, makes the world around him dangerous, and parents appear in his eyes as incapable of protecting him. In general, excessive philosophy about the “depth and complexity of a child’s soul” makes parents uselessly reflective slow-witted people at moments when instinctive and therefore most justified action is needed.
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I will give an example from our family life.
It was winter. My wife was getting our daughter ready for kindergarten. The wife was in a hurry to get to work, there was little time. At that moment, the daughter decided to throw a tantrum. Everything as expected, rolling on the floor, kicking, indignant screams…
My wife had no time to think, she grabbed a rolled-up newspaper and spanked our daughter with all her might. This was the daughter’s first and last tantrum.
Those who were horrified by this method of upbringing need to understand the following. It was winter. The daughter was already dressed warmly. She didn’t feel any pain at all (at the right moments my wife is surprisingly calculating), but the punishment was shockingly loud, and most importantly, she understood: “Mom can do that!”
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It is important to understand that at a certain stage of development, children do not need long conversations, logical explanations, or worse, acceptance of their wrong actions. It’s bad for them. They need a quick and convincing reaction and immediate establishment of boundaries of acceptable behavior. Spanking on the bottom also helps, although I would like to note that my wife spanked the daughter only once in her life.
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P.S. We are much more mammalian than you think.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
18 days ago
Reply to  El Uro

Absolutely correct. Parents have to exert authority or kids become tyrants, which doesn’t help them or the wider society in which they find themselves.

l m
l m
24 days ago

Yeah, no. If only parents left their prejudices aside, their defensiveness at home, then they might be able to understand. It’s nothing to do with them being perfectly perfect little things. It’s about understanding what discipline actually means, understanding how their brain develops and treating them as you would would like to be treated. You know, the basic things we expect from each other at a grown up level. If we wouldn’t treat a grown human the way we have been raised to treat children, then why should we treat children that way? They’re the next generation, and they deserve better. At the heart of real, psychologically and scientifically based gentle parenting is modelling. Modelling to our children what we expect from them, telling them what we’d like them to do instead of what what we don’t want them to do, and leaving “no” for dangerous and life threatening situations so it doesn’t wear off and fall into death ears as it has so often been the case with our children. And the point of offering options is to show them respect and give some form of control over their lives as this helps to reduce frustration and tantrums, and give them a safe sense of autonomy, that they’re actually somebody worthy.
It’s not about being a perfect parent either. So not only it benefits and is understanding and compassionate of children, but it’s also that to parents. If one thing is for sure is that we have been broken beyond the threshold of acceptable levels of hurting. So, instead of carrying forward this awful cycle, we now have enough understanding that enables us to do better and rise above.

El Uro
El Uro
24 days ago
Reply to  l m

that enables us to do better and rise above – I don’t see to much “rise above”, sorry

David Morley
David Morley
23 days ago
Reply to  l m

the basic things we expect from each other at a grown up level. If we wouldn’t treat a grown human the way we have been raised to treat children, then why should we treat children that way?

Thats because children are children and adults are adults and they behave and respond differently. Are you also suggesting we hold children to account in the same way we hold adults to account? No, of course not!

David Morley
David Morley
23 days ago
Reply to  l m

If one thing is for sure is that we have been broken beyond the threshold of acceptable levels of hurting.

When did that happen. I realise there are bad parents, but generally parenting has become less punitive, more permissive and more child centred.

N Forster
N Forster
24 days ago

The belief that children are born perfect and wise has little basis in reality and is something of a religious belief. That said, 2500 years ago the Buddha warned us against assuming the wisdom of children:
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.078.than.html

g Hamway
g Hamway
23 days ago

Crikey. I had some sympathy at the beginning of this article but felt thoroughly browbeaten by the end. Never was the Less Is More maxim more needed.

Anthony Crooks
Anthony Crooks
23 days ago

I’ve been waiting for someone to say “Spare the rod and spoil the child!”

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
23 days ago
Reply to  Anthony Crooks

Problem is many adults need the rod too

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
18 days ago
Reply to  Anthony Crooks

Spare the rod and spoil the child.

General Store
General Store
23 days ago

This is an aspect of what Rieff called the therapeutic age. It is what happens when you separate the cosmic sacred order from the social order and deny original sin (or an evolved human nature for the naturalists out there)

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
22 days ago

Oh, the places you’ll go! The world is hard, rough, and has jagged edges wherever you go. You will be bruised, hurt, and scratched at every turn. A parent’s job is to make your childhood similar, but safe, so you can fall without being permanently hurt. A parent who raises his or her children in a soft nest condemns them to a hard world unprepared, and truly cannot be said to be a good parent.

Pedro Livreiro
Pedro Livreiro
22 days ago

I stopped taking this piece seriously when the author used the word “shit”. Unnecessarily crude and there are many better ways to express oneself.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
21 days ago

My kids were bloody impossible when they were little, until one day when they were about 6 and 4 I deployed the dictum “the more you do what you’re told, the less you’re told what to do”. The moment I said this, parenting became and stayed a delight. They worked hard at school, were hilariously sarcastic teenagers, and had likeable boyfriends and girlfriends

Matt Sylvestre
Matt Sylvestre
21 days ago

If there is no civil punishment and the state has abdicated its monopoly on the use of force a mafia will rise to take its place and it will be one unfettered by capital consequences by definition….

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
21 days ago

Thank you for your lines, Marilyn. Wish I could write like this. However, what I miss so far in this discussion is a mention of the nature of the human “I” – as some might say the bearer of my individuality, and with that potentially of “the Christ in me”. It grows in a child in the rhythm of yes and no, of being “one with” (mom, nature, God) and being “one without”, (lonely, excluded, pushed aside) or, as arch-father Adam noticed, a separate being from the things he alone was able to name, such as the tree, and all things around him, the prerequisite of cognition; something, btw, no angel was or would be able to accomplish. Angels have no I or ego in the human sense. They are always one with God. They also have no or very little freedom. The one who thought he did, was hurled from the community of the heavens. Lucifer, whenever properly understood, has thus become an aspect of ourselves inextricably linked to the development of our soul, together or “in balance with” what the Persians call Ahriman, the opposite of proud, arrogant, self-agrandized Lucifer. When Christ and his essence are understodd by parents – gentle or not – fully, they will learn to balance Lucifer and Ahriman properly within themselves and BY EXAMPLE, and in the face of their growing children, who then can develp into the loving brick walls we´ve come to appreciate among the guiding adults in our lives: Parents, teachers, uncles, godmothers, grandmothers, neighbors. Just ask any of the great black artists coming out of the American ghetto: invariably they will laud the strength of their mothers in giving them the core for building their personality, individuality, social graces, tenacity, respect, and professional achievement. Bless those powerful mamas! Christ too was not “just ever forgiving, ever loving”. He was also clear about what was good and what was evil/bad. Gentle parents have no idea about Christ, or they have one horribly distorted by evangelism and similar aberations of the essence of who/what was, and is, Christ. Woe for the troubled, difficult paths their poor children will have to tread before they find their I, their individuality! Just another face of original sin (=sine deo, separation from God), the propagation of stupidity. No wonder my grandfather called stupidity the greates sin/crime of all.

Hughie Rogers-Coltman
Hughie Rogers-Coltman
18 days ago

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Matt Waters
Matt Waters
18 days ago

Very good! As a Calvinist (as were our own Founding Fathers for the most part), I agree—“vipers in diapers”!

James Kayten
James Kayten
18 days ago

I love this woman! What a magnificent article!