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How China burned German industry Nationalism will rise from the ashes

Industrial workers have been betrayed. Hesham Elsherif/Getty Images

Industrial workers have been betrayed. Hesham Elsherif/Getty Images


December 18, 2024   7 mins

“Today’s Germany is the best Germany the world has seen.” So effused the Washington Post columnist George F. Will five long years ago. It’s hard to imagine anyone — even a German — writing those words today. The country is in crisis. On Monday, Chancellor Olaf Scholz lost a humiliating no-confidence vote, and now Germany is hurtling towards a divisive snap election in February. The nation’s economy has barely grown since 2018, and it is de-industrialising at an alarming rate. The unfolding calamity represents a strategic opening for China and Russia which the West cannot afford to ignore.

At the root of Germany’s industrial woes is electricity, which is now nearly twice as expensive as it is for their American counterparts, and three times more expensive than in China. Prices have been rising since the early 2000s, but a policy embraced by the German government in 2011, following the nuclear meltdown at Fukushima, sealed the nation’s fate. The proponents of the Energiewende (“energy revolution”) policy made the astonishing argument that Germany could rapidly abandon both fossil fuels and nuclear energy without losing its industrial edge. This was, as one Oxford study put it, a “gamble”. Or a game of Russian roulette, a cynic might have added.

The gamble hasn’t paid off. Even Germany’s gas-related dealings with Russia — a source of Russo-American tension since the Sixties — couldn’t stop prices rising throughout the 2010s. They were significant enough, however, to make the shock of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 nearly lethal for German industry. Today, electricity prices are at their highest since 2000, with total production hitting its lowest point since then.

This makes it incredibly tough for Germany to compete with China. Not only does Russian gas continue to flow to China in ever greater quantities, but the Chinese are also receiving sanctioned Iranian oil; installing more than 90% of the world’s new coal power capacity; putting the finishing touches on a hydroelectric infrastructure that already generates more power than Japan; and building ever more nuclear power plants. All this has ensured a fundamental manufacturing advantage over Germany.

“Germany’s gamble hasn’t paid off.”

But there’s more to the tale of German decline than cheap electricity. The past two decades have also witnessed an industrial revolution of sorts: at the turn of the millennium, China churned out cheap junk and not much else. Now, though, it is shaping up to be a formidable and sophisticated rival.

The car industry is a prime example. Today, Chinese electric vehicles are among the best and cheapest in the world, posing a menace to domestic production in Germany and the rest of Europe. But this was not always the case. As one post on r/CarTalkUK, a Reddit group with half-a-million users, puts it: “I remember only a few years ago when Top Gear went to China and showed us all those horrific knock-off death trap shit-boxes that looked like mutilated Minis… now those things are seemingly a thing of the past.” The EU is well aware of this development, having just slapped tariffs on Chinese cars that would make Trump blush. And it’s not just cars — China dominates many key markets, including drones, shipbuilding, solar panels, and wind turbine components to name just a few, and is making strides in other areas too.

Consider its acceleration. The nation started out by hawking junk, leveraging cheap labour to build up healthy export surpluses. This provided Chinese companies with the cash to invest in moving up the supply chain and, critically, to go shopping abroad. In 2004 and 2005, Chinese state-owned enterprises bought up F Zimmerman and Kelch, two of the world’s leading machine tool companies whose highly specialised equipment is vital for thousands of manufacturing processes. Of course, buying companies doesn’t necessarily hand its new owners the keys to the kingdom: transferring high-end R&D and manufacturing processes to China and training up loyal Chinese engineers and scientists who won’t emigrate can still be scuppered by export control laws, union action, political intervention and so on. But it’s a pretty useful strategy that sooner or later creates opportunities.

Another tool at China’s disposal has been the joint venture system, whereby German manufacturers who wish to set up shop in China are expected to share their critical knowledge and technology with their Chinese competitors. This kind of pact may seem utterly Faustian, but dozens upon dozens of high-profile companies have signed up. This includes Volkswagen, which now finds itself shutting down its German factories for the first time in history, in the face of ever more daunting competition from Chinese rivals.

China’s twin strategies — joint ventures and purchases — were both turbocharged by the financial crisis. And still Germany did nothing. A series of new laws that might have enabled better government screening and intervention were passed in 2013, but not used for years.

By 2016, the threat could no longer be ignored. That year, Chinese interests took control of a hugely important German company, the robotics giant KUKA. Their products are used in a whole range of industries: from carmakers and battery manufacturers to medical device companies and aerospace companies such as Airbus. Along with another big deal that year, the purchase of the plastics processing machine company KraussMaffei, the alarm was sounded.

Yet Germany kept on hitting snooze. It wasn’t until 2018 that the government first cited security concerns to block a major takeover, this time of the metal forming specialist Leifeld Metal Spinning. The same year, then economic minister Peter Altmaier proposed a special government fund to buy German firms facing a foreign takeover. The idea came to nothing.

Slowly, however, the Germans have been wising up to the competition. A series of legislative changes have updated the 2013 foreign takeover screening tools, enabling more intervention in recent years. There have been around a dozen or so measures taken against acquisitions every year since 2019, with hundreds more scrutinised but left to proceed.

Arguably, this is all too little, too late. Thanks to decades of investment in tech acquisition through takeovers, industrial espionage and joint ventures, as well as complementary investments in human capital, China now has its own high-tech innovation ecosystem. The days of Chinese copying are not over per se, it’s just that copying is now accompanied by homegrown invention.

Last year, China accounted for more than half of the world’s industrial robot installations and surpassed Germany and Japan in industrial robot density, a key measure of automation. This will potentially enable China to avoid old trade-offs associated with the transition from low- to high-end industry. In a contrast with the historical experience of some developed nations, China may not need to offshore low-end industry to wherever labour is cheaper, instead leaning on automation and cheap energy to keep supply chains national — a strategic boon in an era of growing tensions.

The US cottoned on to China’s industrial coup in 2016 and began responding. Donald Trump’s China policy, his “trade war”, was adopted and further developed by Joe Biden after 2020. The focus on technology, industry and China is now a central pillar of US foreign policy, and historians will surely view 2016 as a historical turning point in China-US relations.

By contrast, it has taken the EU eight years of damage to start a serious conversation about China — despite being a prime victim of high-tech industrialisation. And it only began in September, when former Italian prime minister Mario Draghi published a report on European competitiveness for the European Commission. This has since been promoted by the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen in the context of the escalating dispute about European protectionism against Chinese electric vehicles.

And still it seems that the EU’s response to China’s innovation boom will once again be late and ineffective. One only needs to look at the battery sector to see why. In an attempt to turn the tables, the EU has hinted that it will block Chinese companies from accessing its electric battery grants when investing in Europe: unless they hand over their superior battery technology. This is the very same trick that China played on Europe for years, but the EU’s hand is undermined by the weakness of European battery initiatives. Just last month, “Europe’s Tesla”, the “battery champion” Northvolt, declared bankruptcy.

Add to this EU infighting. The troublemaker in chief is Viktor Orbán’s Hungary, which argues against an “economic cold war” with China, having received nearly half of all Chinese investment into Europe in 2023, including funding for a major automotive plant that is now subject to retaliatory probes from the EU Commission. Germany must balance its own interests with those of an increasingly fragmented trading bloc.

With German industry collapsing, nationalism is on the rise once again. Since July 2023, the anti-EU, anti-immigration AfD has consistently been rated the second most popular party in national polls. And in June’s European Parliament elections, the AfD came second, winning most support in the old East. In September, it won a plurality in the eastern state of Thuringia, but has yet to form a governing coalition.

The region is also home to another radical political force: Sahra Wagenknecht, whose nascent Left-wing populist party is named after her. A half-Iranian former Stalinist and self-described “Left conservative”, Wagenknecht has attempted to unite anti-immigration, anti-Nato and pro-Russian politics, arguing that “Nato must be dissolved and replaced by a collective security system including Russia”.

Both Wagenknecht and the AfD have been investigated by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) — Germany’s equivalent to MI5. In particular, the BfV has embroiled itself in legal disputes with the AfD, which it has successfully argued in court should be subject to surveillance on the basis it is a suspected anti-constitutional organisation. This is due to its supposed anti-Muslim, anti-refugee and anti-democratic rhetoric. The AfD has also endured espionage investigations involving Russian and Chinese financial and personnel infiltration.

For such a popular party to be treated as if it is a terrorist organisation raises questions about the strength of Germany’s post-Cold War regime. Does it risk shedding legitimacy by stigmatising widely held concerns? Or can it accommodate and temper the emerging political forces that have been nurtured by years of mass immigration and are now best set to capitalise on looming de-industrialisation? There is already evidence that voters in Western industrial areas may be the vanguard of possible AfD gains outside the old East — AfD politicians continually attack Net Zero, responding to fears about industrial jobs. Then there’s Wagenknecht, who warned ominously in 2022 that Germany risks experiencing “incredible deindustrialisation” without major reform. Her solution is peace with Russia and renewed gas imports. This autumn’s state elections in Thuringia, Brandenburg and Saxony suggest these messages are hitting home.

Despite the swell of popular discontent, there is little sign that Germany’s February election will change enough to reverse the energy crisis. At this rate, Germany’s industrial woes are set to continue, multiplying opportunities for China to steal a lead in key areas. Meanwhile, Russia will dangle the promise of unlimited gas before the eyes of the growing AfD and Wagenknecht movements. These insurgents may yet experience breakthroughs outside of the former Soviet East, prompting a constitutional crisis at worst, or otherwise forcing the established parties into major policy adjustments. Already, Scholz has announced unilateral steps effectively to suspend Schengen, Europe’s free movement system, after coming under pressure over immigration.

This is without doubt the most severe crisis Germany has faced since its rebirth 34 years ago, when the former president Richard von Weizsäcker promised that the fledgling republic would “serve peace in the world in a united Europe”. How, though, can Germany do so when both peace and a united Europe have proven so elusive? Uncomfortable as it is to admit it, history is far from over for Germany. The nation may yet decide that it is better simply to serve itself.


Sam Dunning is a writer and researcher who serves as director of UK-China Transparency, a charity that promotes education about ties between the UK and China.

 

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Seb Dakin
Seb Dakin
30 days ago

Basing your energy policy on the PR machine of a teenaged Swedish truant and her soup-chucking acolytes wasn’t a gamble, it was an act of obviously self-destructive idiocy. Economic self-harm.
The West has been pursuing moronic policies on so many fronts for the last ten or more years it’s a miracle there’s anything still working. At least the US had Trump for a while to kind of put the brakes on, but Europe’s political class is populated by fools who can’t tell the difference between a hallucination and a vision, and would lack the courage in any case to pursue either if it ran contrary to monolithic mainstream media narratives of catastrophic climate change.
Well, you reap what you sow. It’s hardly China’s fault. I bet they can hardly believe their luck.

Stuart Bennett
Stuart Bennett
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

The long view from the Ivory tower seems to a whole lot different to the one down here at ground zero. I can’t avoid the thought that the political class is deliberately destroying us and enjoying it.

Saigon Sally
Saigon Sally
25 days ago
Reply to  Stuart Bennett

One only has to see that lunatic Milliband destroying the industrial base of the UK – and everything else we hold dear – to realise the truth in what you say. It is ideologically driven self destruction on a scale never before seen.

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

I’m not disagreeing about China, but one look at the Chinese economy shows this is an odd, complicated picture. They are in big trouble economically. Even while the arms reach out to grab the geopolitical world, the legs are buckling. Nor is there an easy out for China – inward investment is drying up as many countries look to reshore, and the property sector especially looks permanently on the verge of collapse. Employment across China is tanking especially amongst the young and it’s not clear why. The really odd thing is this is happening even as their technological and engineering capabilities at the top end are increasing faster than I thought possible even a year ago. China appears like a very odd, bifurcated country in many respects, simultaneously in trouble economically and culturally (just look at the way the young are behaving in China), and yet advancing in technology and political influence.They are following the path of the other Confucian countries like Japan and South Korea in moving ever further up the value chains, but faster and at ten times the scale – and it’s terrifying because they could sweep the rest of the world aside in a couple of decades as long as they don’t go for Taiwan.

And Taiwan is the point because every indicator is that once Trump comes in, China will be able to sell less to the West – because the Trump administration will undoubtedly pressure Europe into decoupling from China, especially when they look towards incorporating Taiwan which they are very clearly preparing to.

Matt Woodsmith
Matt Woodsmith
29 days ago
Reply to  Prashant Kotak

Good points. Everything you write is correct, as is the article – China has moved up the technology ladder scarily quickly, leaving a lot of the west seemingly asleep. But, China does have serious issues. The big one is demographics – China is getting old, quickly. The CCP is obviously acutely aware of this and I wonder if that’s behind the big push at domination. If they don’t it’ll be too late – and they know it.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Matt Woodsmith

Utter nonsense
The next 5 yr plan shall deal with all that
Go study what China has already implemented and planned in order to ensure it’s Senior Citizens are well looked after
But also policies that can but only lead to Higher productivity
And rapid development of Advanced Smart Manufacturing
Fully integrated to all relevant
Infrastructure
Once more speak not by ignorance of the facts

Paul Rodolf
Paul Rodolf
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Well said…..comrade.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago
Reply to  Paul Rodolf

Maybe well said, but will the minions obey?

They have have had decades of promises, and laughing at the West’s Climate Policies will only delay the inevitable.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
25 days ago
Reply to  Paul Rodolf

I not a comrade
I a Human being

Jim C
Jim C
29 days ago
Reply to  Matt Woodsmith

My biggest gripe with the article is that it really doesn’t emphasise the part that minimum wage laws, highly restrictive labour rules, social welfare costs, and extremely tight environmental regulations have made it impossible for Europe to compete with China.

The high energy prices arising from the EU turning a blind eye to the destruction of NS2 by its “ally” is just another nail in the coffin.

For Europe to thrive it needs to shrug off its geopolitical master – the Anglo-American empire – and forge its own path through the world, buying cheap energy from Russia and admitting that Ukraine is just going to have to be neutral going forward.

This will upset the Angle-American MacKinder “Heartland” schemers (and their European proxies) but the EU citizenry need to decide whether they’re going to act in their own interests… or their comprador Elites’.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago
Reply to  Jim C

If the EU had developed their own Energy Industry, the loss of NS2 would have been a hiccup. Likewise, the UK.

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
29 days ago
Reply to  Matt Woodsmith

I agree, demographics are the biggest challenge for China, but in all honesty most of Europe is faring almost as badly. Re the figures China puts out about it’s own population profiles, I don’t think any of that data is remotely believable.

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Matt Woodsmith

I am old enough to realize that there was a time when you could have substituted “Japan” for “China” in your post, and it would have been true.

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
28 days ago

The difference being, China is ten times the scale, and just that in itself is going to create effects and consequences never seen before.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Prashant Kotak

Taiwan is without any doubt
The Sovereign Terrority of
The People’s Rebulic of China
Such is a undisputable FACT

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Ok, how much Mr Doyle? What’s the going rate?
On reflection, looking at the odd turn of phrasing, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Mr Doyle is in fact Miss Ding. Or Mr Dong.

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

It’s very disputable, Taiwan has not been part of China since 1895 when they were part of the Empire of Japan until 1945. They were never part of the PRC , and formed their own government when the Chinese Civil war ended in 1949. They developed their own democracy and economy since then and the vast majority don’t want to be part of the PRC. It’s 125 years they are not part of China, so they definitely have their own say for their future.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

The overwhelming and vast majority are the Citezens of China to whom unity is of the highest possible order from family then onto local community and then The province all the way to the pinnacle of Nationhood
Do the Maths 99 % of Mainland Citezens support Tawain being brought back into the warm embrace of the Motherland

Dee Harris
Dee Harris
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Hi Xi.How’s tricks?

G M
G M
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

How’s the weather in Beijing?

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
25 days ago
Reply to  G M

Google the appropriate Metrological site if you really want to know

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
29 days ago
Reply to  Prashant Kotak

You are overrating Trump, he invited Xi to his inauguration, he is in awe of Xi and China, Trump will make some minor tinkering in policies to appease his supporters, but at the end of the day not much will change. Many of the global corporations rely on their integrated supply chains, which involves China and several other Asian countries. The corporations will continue to do business anywhere in the world regardless of what Trump says or does. They think long term, Trump will be just a passing fad in 4 years time, an annoyance they need to put up with and appease in the interim.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

If you have a history 5000 yrs old. Then 100 yrs is like 1 day to China

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

Started with Schroeder, Gazprom, and money which – as my Irish grandmother always said – speaks all languages. The subsequent Ostpolitik baked disaster into the cake. In 2015, I wondered if Merkel was a Russian agent, so disastrous did her policies appear, with Merkel as Mother Theresa on the cover ofTime perhaps the ironic highpoint of the whole mess.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago
Reply to  Susan Grabston

Canceling Nuclear was in plain sight.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

But Isn’t China helping fund the green movements in the West?

rchrd 3007
rchrd 3007
29 days ago

Yeah, the get a lot of brownie points for that

LindaMB
LindaMB
29 days ago

Odd, that.
In Canada the green movement is funded in large part by US green’movements’. The end result being that Canada, which is rich in natural resources-including oil and natural gas-imports both. Guess which country Canada imports the most from.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago

The head of the UN climate change panel stated
That without China The world shall fail to reach Nett zero in time to avoid calamity

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

And of course that statement was credible

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago

It depends what calamity means? A Wind and Solar powered West would be perfect, for China.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
25 days ago

Fact

DenialARiverIn Islington
DenialARiverIn Islington
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

I don’t entirely agree with you on this. Whereas energy policy has severely exacerbated the situation, it is not the cause. Germany’s industrial decline was coming anyway, although it would have been slower. Regardless of energy, China has quite deliberately targeted Germany and fully intended to eat its lunch. In this regard, they were pretty much copying the Japanese grab on British industries in the 1960’s and 70’s.

How did the Germans and the EU not see this coming? It was as plain as a pikestaff. The Chinese saw the move to electrification and it obviously suited their purpose. They leapfrogged, knowing the Germans would be too arrogant to perceive the threat in time.

It’s worked.i think it’s too late to recover.

Paul MacDonnell
Paul MacDonnell
29 days ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

You’re absolutely right. Describing it as a gamble is ridiculous. It was simple, stupid suicide.

Matthew Powell
Matthew Powell
30 days ago

Western prosperity, or what is left of it, has for the last 30 years been based on nothing more than labour arbitrage, either through outsourcing or mass migration. Both are totally unsustainable relying on endless streams of migrants or unlimited numbers of poorer countries to move production to and yet for all the contempt I feel for our political classes, they have simply offered the easiest solutions to our insatiable demands for every growing welfare and consumption. No politician will make hard choices when voters will not accept hard truths.

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
29 days ago
Reply to  Matthew Powell

Indeed.
Thirty years ago the hype in the business pages was concentrated on “Emerging Markets!” The hype seemed to imply that new markets would open up in which to sell stuff. But, really, the action turned out to be in emerging labor markets: everyone, starting with the Japanese, shifted all of their manufacturing to places like Malaysia, Mexico and Vietnam and then China. And here we are.
The Japanese were the first to call it “hollowing out.” They weren’t wrong.

Philip Tisdall
Philip Tisdall
29 days ago
Reply to  Matthew Powell

Quite so. We have also been borrowing money. Interest on the debt is now the 2nd largest item in the American Federal budget and we are just hitting peak Boomer.

Santiago Excilio
Santiago Excilio
29 days ago
Reply to  Matthew Powell

I think this is the fundamental problem; the beneficiaries of the social democratic model like having cake, eating cake but not paying for cake, and the political classes inevitably give in to the pressures of Wagner’s law.

There have been plenty of missteps along the way of course, the Euro for one, and its beggaring effect on those countries that lacked the productivity base and growth to benefit from having a unified rate across the board.

I personally think that the crises unfolding in Germany and France are actually the harbingers of the demise of the EU itself; and this will unfold in line with the iron law of markets: inflections always take much longer to occur than one expects and then, when they eventually do, happen must faster than one thought possible.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Matthew Powell

There no such thing as Western prosperity
Tis now actually a mountain of Debt

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
29 days ago

I don’t get it. In one breath the author is lamenting the high cost of German energy, in the next he’s warning us about the threat China poses to EV production, battery technology and wind and solar manufacturing. Here’s a thought. Ditch net zero and these all become stranded industries. China will be sitting on a mountain of products no one wants. There is no consumer demand for any of this stuff. It’s all driven by govt mandate.

Chris Van Schoor
Chris Van Schoor
29 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Excellent point! I hadn’t thought of that, although it’s pretty obvious now that you mention it!

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

It would appear that most of the respondents in this forum
Are not only Village Idiots but all have a turn each at being so
As clearly demonstrated by the calibre of their responses

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Oh God you are soooooo smart we are al unworthy to appear in print on the same page

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago

Tis not I who is Smart but the others who are ignorant of reality and the facts
Which then by way of utter stupidity makes me look smart
And that’s only by stating the obvious that’s as plain as the
Nasus upon your face

El Uro
El Uro
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Be careful, too many accidental capital letters can cause brain damage.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  El Uro

Shove your weasel english
Grammar and language into the garbage bin
Note I refrained from giving english A capital E

Paul Rodolf
Paul Rodolf
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

The “weasel” insult gives away your origin. In the West the weasel is venerated for it’s guile and viciousness.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
25 days ago
Reply to  Paul Rodolf

Weasel in a political and diplomatic context means
Basically those who use and deploy Weasel words
Then they speak with forked tongues and nefarious ulterior motives
Put simply thou are Liars

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
29 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

This type of thinking is what got us here. First, the U.S./Europe built its economy on slavery and thought it could replicate that success in Asia — and failed. Then China heard something about green energy back in the day when they were still focused on raising rice, and they took over. Now, you’re advising we go back to coal? And then what? You can’t go back, man!
We’ve trained our people to be snowflakes with no knowledge of our own history — how we became rich in the first place (slavery, colonization, and exploiting the Earth). What we could do is make peace, find ways to need fewer weapons (at minimum to buy time to rethink our own stupidity), and see where that might lead us. But let’s be real: making our soft, pampered generation let go of their cell phones and self-driving Ubers isn’t going to happen!
We’ve missed the mark, but crying and running back to mommy’s house isn’t the answer!
We need to learn patience, observing, and stillness to strategize!

DenialARiverIn Islington
DenialARiverIn Islington
29 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Let me help you with that. Here’s a salutary fact that you’re not going to much enjoy. Chinese EV’s are already pretty much on a par with ICE vehicles in performance but much, much cheaper (locally). By 2030, they’re going to be technically superior. And. Still very cheap.

In other words, consumers will choose EV’s over ICE, not because they’re told to, but because they’re technically superior and a better deal.

Now, I know you’ll struggle to accept this. But. It’s the truth. And. You’ll find out.

Paul MacDonnell
Paul MacDonnell
29 days ago

I do not believe anybody’s electric vehicles aren’t a par with ICE vehicles. Without government mandates and subsidies they wouldn’t exist.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago

Milk Floats might exist. 🙂

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago

Currently, China imports well over half its Hydrocarbons, Oil and Gas, so Coal-fired power stations supplying Electricity for EVs is a suitable solution.

Here, in the West, we have sufficient Hydrocarbons, if only we could be bothered to develop the oil/gas fields. Nuclear, Uranium or Thorium fission reactors are the future, and we could move to EVs at a more dignified rate, and for credible reasons, not for political fantasy.

James Twigg
James Twigg
28 days ago

Even a free EV does you no good if there is insufficient capacity to power them. Germany’s real problem is their crazy green energy policies (choosing wind & solar over nuclear power) which will inevitably lead to unstable power production which will cause chronic intermittent shortages.

D Walsh
D Walsh
29 days ago

Germany is doing away with itself, they are slowly implementing the Morgenthau plan. SAD

LindaMB
LindaMB
29 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

Because stripping it of its’ industrial base worked so well after WWI. Whether it is self inflicted or imposed, things won’t end up any better this time.

D Walsh
D Walsh
28 days ago
Reply to  LindaMB

But Germany was still Germany after both WW1 and WW2, infinity immigration makes things very different this time

Stuart Bennett
Stuart Bennett
29 days ago

The monomaniacs in the green movement are so myopic that they are able to blank out the need for an economy to transition. Do they think if we sabotage ourselves the rest of the world will be impressed and copy us? Idiots. Total and utter idiots.

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
29 days ago
Reply to  Stuart Bennett

One rationalization would be that the green movement is just a death cult. Its members want us dead, because Man is Bad, not just the orange one.

Christopher Barclay
Christopher Barclay
29 days ago

Schroder was probably a Russian agent while holding the position of German Chancellor. Time will probably tell who amongst the German political elite has been working for the Chinese.

D Walsh
D Walsh
29 days ago

Any European politician with a sane view of Russia gets called a Russian agent

How is war with Russia good for Germany or Europe?

LindaMB
LindaMB
29 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

It’s not war that anyone wants, although-as the saying goes-if you want peace prepared for war. Showing weakness to authoritarian regimes (or religions) is asking for trouble. If Hitler had been stopped at Sudetenland, Europe could have avoided WWII. If Putin had been stopped in the Crimea, he wouldn’t now be in Ukraine

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  LindaMB

Or better still if we had not got involved at all

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago

Yeah. Who cares if the Ukrainians get raped, tortured and murdered, right?

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

It isn’t, but Russia will start wars whether Germany and Europe like it or not, so it is best to be prepared.

LindaMB
LindaMB
29 days ago

I’m fairly certain that Merkel was a sleeper agent, left behind by the collapse of the USSR. Who else would so willingly destabilize all of Western Europe. As for the bureaucrats in Brussels, I wouldn’t surprise me at all

Dylan B
Dylan B
29 days ago

The last 20 years of European politics and industrial thinking has been a monumental act of self harm.

I can’t decide if it was greedy short term self interest, eco martyrdom or epic stupidity that got Germany and Europe to this point.

The people are waking up to this and they’re not happy.

Crippling energy prices. Illegal immigration. Lack of job security. High inflation. Yes, all the ingredients for the worst type of politics.

The predictability of it all is so depressing. And so unnecessary.

Mike Michaels
Mike Michaels
29 days ago
Reply to  Dylan B

Every PM we’ve had since Mrs T has not been working for us. It really is that simple. Blair prostituted himself and us for the tidy little sum of c£100m of Soros cash he’s sat upon. The rest have followed suit.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
29 days ago
Reply to  Mike Michaels

Yes…absolutely right

Kiddo Cook
Kiddo Cook
29 days ago

Greed it’s all about greed. Why would anyone give away their IP to an enemy a totalitarian barbarous state ? Why? Why because they can exploit slave labour to build their iPhones and everything else……anyone with a iota of sense could predict this so, nothing worth reading here

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
29 days ago

No, US shale and Norwegian gas exports have destroyed German industry. And this was Washington’s plan all along to permit the Russian invasion and stage the destruction of a key trading partnership.

Mike Michaels
Mike Michaels
29 days ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

So absolutely nothing to with the Olympic gold winning virtue signal of destroying your own nuclear industry?

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

Well, Germany did have to stop trading with Russia. That wasn’t sustainable.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
29 days ago

It’s a huge mistake to blame the incompetence of politicians for these developments. They’re doing their masters’ bidding.

For thirty years globalisation has made the European rich ever richer by making working people poorer. Nowhere is this more true than in the UK.

All that’s happened is that the wolves of the governing class have disguised themselves in the sheep’s clothing of centre left ideology and the green movement. Starmer, Miliband, Harman etc al can pursue their disastrous policies in the sure knowledge that the London media and their neighbours in Hampstead and Canonbury will applaud – even as civil society in the Midlands and North disintegrates in front of our eyes.

But not for much longer.

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

But not for much longer“. Why? What is going to happen?

Russell Sharpe
Russell Sharpe
27 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Why Canonbury? The usual metonym is Islington. (Full disclosure: Barnsbury and Highbury are also available)

Sean Lothmore
Sean Lothmore
29 days ago

I’m intrigued by Peter Zeihan’s podcasts which focus on demographics. He claims that China’s population is smaller than official estimates, is aging, and the birth rate is well below replacement rate (like almost every country). He foresees the lack of workers, consumers, and trained engineers putting an end to their industrial economy within ten years, leaving a trillion dollars of industrial plant lying inert. On the other hand, robots.

D Walsh
D Walsh
29 days ago
Reply to  Sean Lothmore

Peter Zeihan is a fool, probably the most confident sounding BS artist on the Planet. When he talks of demographics, he only looks at age and nothing else, so according to his ideology, Haiti or Chad with their lower average age, have a better future ahead of them than China or Japan

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
29 days ago

The supply chain the Chinese are moving up was built by Western companies using Western capital and Western know how, including Japanese and Taiwanese who you might have thought would have exercized more caution.
It represents one of the biigest own goals in history.
Perhaps if German companies had displayed a little more nationalism, that is concen for their own country, and not swallowed the globalisation claptrap they wouldn’t be in quite the mess they are in now

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
29 days ago

I’ve always been puzzled at the West’s enthusiasm for giving Chinese students the best education in the world, at our private schools and our best universities. A short term gain in cash at the expense of equipping our global competitor with our best ideas…

Liakoura
Liakoura
29 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

…”giving Chinese students the best education in the world, at our private schools and our best universities”.
Giving?
On 24 February 2022, the UK Government announced that the tuition fee cap for legally defined UK undergraduate students for the academic years 2023-24 and 2024-25 would remain at £9,250.
As an example, for University College London:
In the academic year 2023-24, continuing UK and EU undergraduate students (where applicable) will continue to pay tuition fees as follows:
UK entrants in 2017-18 or later will pay £9,250 a year full-time for a Creative Arts and Humanities, BA, while Overseas / International full-time students will pay £29,000
For BSc Physics, UK entrants in 2017-18 or later will pay £9,250 a year full-time. For Overseas / International students in 2023-24, 2024-25 and 2025-26, yearly tuition fees will be £35,000 an academic year.
Of course large numbers of these Overseas / International students will be from African, Asian, South American countries and China where the rich are able to pay for the best education for their child / children.
According to student statistics released by UK Higher Education for 2021/22, the highest number of international students in the UK belonged to China, with 151,690 students enrolled. 
University College London has students from 150 countries.
Without these overseas students many UK universities would be even closer to bankruptcy than is currently the case.
Of course with 35 years of the now abandoned ‘one child family policy’ when only the very rich could ignore the policy and pay the fines, the long standing culture of saving, is stll firmly practised.
But as the writer points out:
“Last year, China accounted for more than half of the world’s industrial robot installations and surpassed Germany and Japan in industrial robot density, a key measure of automation. This will potentially enable China to avoid old trade-offs associated with the transition from low- to high-end industry. In a contrast with the historical experience of some developed nations, China may not need to offshore low-end industry to wherever labour is cheaper, instead leaning on automation and cheap energy to keep supply chains national — a strategic boon in an era of growing tensions”.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  Liakoura

The universities have been throwing money about like a drunken sailor in a brothel. The profligacy has been breath taking
If the people we have running the universities are part of the “elite” God help us.

Steve White
Steve White
29 days ago

A very comprehensive article on the state of Germany. Excellent work!

Michael Lipkin
Michael Lipkin
29 days ago

Anti nuclear Greens are extremists

LindaMB
LindaMB
29 days ago
Reply to  Michael Lipkin

And marxists

rchrd 3007
rchrd 3007
29 days ago

Seems to remember one example of a joint venture a few years ago where, I think it was, Siemens basically handed over all their high tech train technology to China, and then we’re told they weren’t needed any more

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago

Oh my Oh my this article is as guilty
As Western Neo Liberal Capitalism and neo Colonialism governments and the Spivs of The Free Market that decided all
Go study and understand China
And start with their history from 5000 yrs ago and right up to today
And it’s future trajectory
Ah but The West is so imbued with it’s own philosophy that understanding China in order to understand it is impossible . Unless you go and read,study and understand as to how it’s civilisation is thriving today with a 5000 yr old History
Also if you do study it’s history , culture and beliefs Then without studying Buddhism, Zen Buddhism ,
Confuciousism and what a Socialist Capitalist Economy
Actually means
Then you shall never ever be able to comprehend China
I shall have no spurious replies and only give way to any who can clearly demonstrate a clear basic but fundamental understanding of what I speak

Sean Lothmore
Sean Lothmore
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Has China spent a lot of time trying to understand European history? They just take what is useful to them. That seems to be science, engineering, economic systems, political systems, and business suits. They aren’t interested in Greek mythology, nor are they interested in Buddhism. Falun Gong aren’t touring their ballets in the PRC.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  Sean Lothmore

Buffon and as a big one as Western leaders like Trump and Boris and Nigel Looking for his crown

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Oh you are so, so, so smart

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
29 days ago
Reply to  Sean Lothmore

More Chinese people are educated in the west (yes learning Greek mythology to understand us) than the west being educated in Beijing! This is one reason we cannot win, they are 10 steps ahead of us!

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  M To the Tea

Care to put a number upon those Western educated Chinese
The base line for you to calculate your number
Is 1,400,000,000
Then come back with a accurate % of that base line figure and explain your deployment of the word MOST
Which by application of rational and maths dictates that the Number you produce is no less
That 700, 000 ,000
If deployment of the Word most is indeed factual

rchrd 3007
rchrd 3007
29 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

He didn’t deploy the word MOST

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  rchrd 3007

I stand corrected Thank you

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Sean Lothmore

China is the “Middle Kingdom”. It is the centre of the world. Everywhere else is just the periphery. It has always been thus.

John Hope
John Hope
29 days ago

It’s really very simple, Germany destroyed itself with its energy policy. Abandoning coal, nuclear and fossil fuels on a eco-suicide mission.

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
29 days ago

I imagine much the same has been happening, to the UK especially, with less tangible products such as financial services and insurance, caused by outsourcing IT development and support to places like India. Once they have enough experts, what is to stop them undercutting our service industries, on which we’re told the UK financially relies?

Nathan Ngumi
Nathan Ngumi
29 days ago

A very sad but avoidable turn of events in Germany. Renewal is possible but will be painful for the current power brokers.

Renato Johnsson
Renato Johnsson
29 days ago

i’m pissed at the ** greens, I remember how in Sweden the coverage of Green Steel and Northvolt Batteries, I was cautiously optimistic it would spearhead the green revolution that had been promised. We were lied to then. That which pisses me off is we’re still indoctinating children about the upcoming environmental armageddon and that ‘green’ policies is the only deliverance. (see årets julkalender). I can’t stand the Greens. The leftists in sweden amuse me, the dislike is less strong

Vesselina Zaitzeva
Vesselina Zaitzeva
29 days ago

An excellent, well researched article . Hope to read more articles like this one in UnHerd.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
29 days ago

The nation’s economy has barely grown since 2018, and it is de-industrialising at an alarming rate. 
where is the de-growth crowd to tell us why this is good news?

Buck Rodgers
Buck Rodgers
29 days ago

The choices that led to this are utterly beyond understanding.

Loco Parentis
Loco Parentis
29 days ago

I don’t feel sorry for Germany. They voted in this insanity. The tidy expression applies here as it has all across the world: Woke is Broke.

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Loco Parentis

Oh, of course. Germany is in the situation it is in, because they have too many trans people….

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago

It’s more likely too many Arts and Humanities graduates thinking that intelligence is a substitute for knowledge and experience, particularly of STEM subjects.

Germany destroying itself is preferable to them destroying its neighbours.

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
29 days ago

One thing that isn’t often discussed—because it’s so unorthodox—is the need to truly understand the Chinese economy which is not like ours. The European and global economies have historically been built on the idea of constant growth and profit, a concept we tend to take for granted as universal. However, it’s not! There’s only one Earth, and you can only dig so deep and so long before it starts to shake. Sure China does it but in reaction not necessarily their choice.
What we’re struggling to understand about China (or the Orient) is that their culture and economic philosophy are fundamentally different. Chinese culture prioritizes saving over growth. This focus explains why they maintain strict control over inflation, banking, and monetary policy and chafe at free market. Their aim isn’t relentless growth; instead, it’s about ensuring basic needs are met—having a job, having stability. What people do with their lives beyond that is secondary.
In contrast, to the rest of the world adopting western style economic foundations, particularly in the United States, we cultivate growth as the ultimate goal. This is why immigrants are often drawn to countries like the U.S.—their home countries don’t subscribe to this idea of growth for growth’s sake, where money circulates endlessly, often with no clear purpose beyond accumulation and power and we always did this!
I think this divergence isn’t part of the normal economic discussion, but it’s becoming increasingly relevant. The foundational principles of the global economy, which have always been centered on growth, appear to be breaking down. I don’t know what this breakdown will lead to, but I see a pattern emerging. China’s strict control over every aspect of their monetary policy, political system, and population suggests their goal is not growth in the traditional sense. This may be experienced as destabilizing – is like you bring a gun and the other guy brings a spoon – incomprehensible!
This shift represents a foundational economic challenge that isn’t covered in existing frameworks or historical models. Growth, which was once celebrated, may now start to feel whiplash! 

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
29 days ago
Reply to  M To the Tea

You have good insight to Chinese thinking
China is only expanding it’s Economy in order to create a new Civilisation for the whole of Humanity that lives in balance and harmony with nature
China refers to this as a
Eco , Environmentally friendly Civilisation that is sustainable
The hand of friendship is offered to all in order to join and cooperate
Those that decline shall merely find that the rest shall leave them behind to wither and have their civilisation die

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

While I have respect for the Chinese as a people, I have zero respect for Communism. If they get rid of that, dealing with them will be easier.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
25 days ago

China refers itself too as being a Socialist Capitalist State
Which since the formation of The Peoples Republic of China
Has always been the stated aim of it’s constitution
Of which it has now successfully achieved
Go Study the meaning of the Yellow stars upon the National Flag
Do so then you will ” Get it ‘
Dumb minds wag silly Tongues

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago
Reply to  M To the Tea

Western economies have historically been built on the idea of an ever expanding State Sector, and the entrepreneurial spirit in the Private Sector has recently come to the conclusion that it’s just not worth the candle.

It’s going to be tough going, but entertaining to see people realise how they’ve been conned.

Russell Sharpe
Russell Sharpe
27 days ago
Reply to  M To the Tea

In a zero-growth economy enterprising individuals can only be successful at somebody else’s expense. In order that such activity does not fragment the social fabric such ambitions have to be severely circumscribed, and the resulting resentments contained, by whoever or whatever has a monopoly of legitimate violence. This is what we observe both in traditional Asiatic despotism and its modern variants like the state-socialism-cum- oligarchical-corporatism of contemporary Russia and China. Of course in recent decades these countries have experience rapid growth (as well as, for Russia, periods of contraction), but the point remains that the zero-growth model is only suited to sclerotic and corrupt despotisms of this type.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
29 days ago

While I agree with most of the analysis presented in this article, I strongly disagree with the notion that “nationalism is on the rise”. German public sentiment is just as much or as little “nationalist” as it has been in my lifetime (*1963).
My fellow countrymen are just beginning to wake up from decades of eco-globalist brainwash. All major policies since Merkel came to power were self-destructive: EU bureaucracy, uncontrolled immigration, energy, education, everything. Opposing this is neither right-wing nor nationalist. The non-mainstream parties AfD and BSW are prosecuted by a federal organisation (BfV) that is under strict political control by the incumbent parties. The bogus claim of emergent right-wing nationalism is their last stand.

Mark epperson
Mark epperson
29 days ago

Germany deserves it. When MONEY overrides every other consideration, it is going to turn out badly for the German people. However, the German Volk have also been asleep and happily consumed their lattes and gave full throat to virtue signaling, so they are the ones to blame. A bought politician and their policies are just a reflection of what the electorate will put up with. They choose badly.

G M
G M
29 days ago

The elitists/authorities look around themselves and everyone they meet, see and talk to are doing great so they believe everything is great.

They don’t go outside their own bubble.

Paul Rodolf
Paul Rodolf
29 days ago

China has two primary pressure points. Oil and markets to export to. The West should apply pressure on both.

Mrs R
Mrs R
29 days ago

One could almost begin to imagine that Net Zero was a cunning plan dreamed up by those who had long hoped for the day to see the pesky west brought to its knees.
Of course that entirely fanciful, certainly couldn’t possibly be the case. Net Zero enforced on Western nations, along with their de-industrialisation is absolutely necessary in order to stop climate change and save the planet, isn’t that right?

Adam Grant
Adam Grant
28 days ago

Germany’s best hope is to fund and promote the development of HVDC cables across the Mediterranean to solar farms in the Sahara. These, with flow batteries to handle night-time demand, are the fastest and cheapest way to bring down the cost of European electricity.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago
Reply to  Adam Grant

So, you’ve done the financial analysis on this, have you? 🙂

And consulted an Engineer, to bring you back to solid ground?

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
28 days ago

Isn’t AfD pro-Russian? Wagenknecht too, for that matter. If so, is it any wonder the security services watch them?

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
28 days ago

No, they just see how ridiculous current policies are, and are suggesting alternatives.

Maverick Melonsmith
Maverick Melonsmith
25 days ago

Well, if they’re not, fine, but Russia is the enemy of the free world, and anyone in the West who advocates making common cause with Russia in all but truly exceptional circumstances should definitely come in for attention from the security services.

Jake Raven
Jake Raven
28 days ago

And all the while our socialist government in Westminster are incapable of understanding the dangers of cosying up to China.

Paul Rodolf
Paul Rodolf
28 days ago

It has occurred to me on more than one occasion that the West couldn’t possibly be collectively this stupid, it had to be intentional.

Chipoko
Chipoko
27 days ago

The article could have made more of the massive sellout of western industry to China under the ‘globalisation’ banner. Substantial elements of western industry (e.g. Apple) have been moved to China where production costs are cheaper, leaving swathes of damaged ‘rust belt’ communities ‘back home’ in the USA and elsewhere, not to mention the transfer of technologies and know-how, to our strategic disadvantage. Capitalists have made even bigger fortunes from all this; but we, the democratic ‘deplorables’ have been left to deal with the damage left behind. Special thanks are due to Blair, Obama, Cameron and (Theresa) May for accelerating and fostering the ‘global village’ whose long term benefits are not evident.

Russell Sharpe
Russell Sharpe
27 days ago

For German speakers, here is what Mr Dunning calls the “half-Iranian former Stalinist” (a somewhat tendentious description of someone born 16 years after Stalin’s death and raised entirely in the GDR by her German mother without any input from her Iranian father) in conversation with the founder of what was then a merely EURO-sceptic (not even EU-sceptic) AfD in 2013, and who left it two years later when it shifted its focus to hostility to immigration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRq8f-ydJI

Richard Turpin
Richard Turpin
26 days ago

Globalization… the sellout of European companies to China and overseas interests was driven by nothing more than greed as well as the idiocy of the net zero zealots- if ever the moron Miliband needs to take note of anything, it’s Germany and the result if policies he seems intent on following. The irony being, if the entire EU and the UK achieved net zero status- wait for it- it would achieve a difference of approximately 0.0025% in the overall world emissions. Literally a drop in a very large ocean. Germany has fallen victim to its own greed and virtue signaling and is costing them dearly.

P Carson
P Carson
26 days ago

Let’s see. Make it expensive to manufacture in Germany. Make it complicated. Mandate vehicles for which Germany has no technological advantage.

P Carson
P Carson
26 days ago

The west has been in the thrall of self-righteous progressives pedaling naive sophomoric ideas, and when they run out of fairy tale ideas they can get more from the WEF.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
25 days ago

Feb. 2021 Arizona Republican Tom Cotton introduced an “Anti-China Propaganda bill” (s.429). Basically it rewarded foreign media for publishing negative China news. Since then there has been a huge shift in Western media’s content and editorials. This article by Sam is typical.

Gary Stanfield
Gary Stanfield
22 days ago

Before reading this, I was only aware of the discriminatory, unfavorable, masochistic tariff arrangement and other deliberate programs between the USA and China. Ref The China Fantasy by James Mann, 2006.