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Will the Brics inherit the earth? America can't stop multipolarity


October 22, 2024   5 mins

A momentous global shift is currently underway. One which finds expression today in the Russian city of Kazan where the Brics bloc is holding an international summit hosted by the supposed global pariah Vladimir Putin.

Since the onset of the conflict in Ukraine, the West has sought to isolate Russia through sanctions and diplomatic pressure. And yet Kazan will be welcoming heads of state or high-ranking officials from 32 countries, including the bloc’s four new entrants — Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates — as well as numerous other countries interested in membership, including Turkey, the first ever Nato country to consider joining. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres will also be present.

The event testifies to the growing influence of the Global South — or the Global Majority, as the Russians call it — and its search for an alternative to the US-led system. Some 40 nations are reportedly on the waiting list to join, with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia expressing serious interest, further illustrating the growing attractiveness of this “non-Western club”. Membership is seductive to those nations seeking alternatives to Western-dominated economic and financial structures which are often accused of jeopardising the economic development, social stability and national sovereignty of weaker countries.

It’s particularly telling of the West’s tone-deaf approach to the rest of the world that, to the former’s surprise, so many countries expressed an interest in joining the Brics after the outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine war. Ironically, the West’s sanctions regime — and especially the freezing of $300 billion of Russia’s foreign-exchange reserves, an unprecedent act of economic warfare — is what motivated many countries to look for alternatives to the dollar-denominated Western financial infrastructure.

“Now Russia has set the bloc a new strategic goal: de-dollarisation.”

The expansion of the Brics, coupled with the growing interest from the Global South, underscores the geopolitical power shift underway — from the West to Rest. Indeed, the Brics bloc already wields considerable economic clout. The group’s combined GDP, when adjusted for purchasing power parity (PPP), accounts for 35.6% of the global economy, surpassing the G7’s share of just over 30%. In terms of population, the disparity is even more striking: Brics nations are home to 45% of the world’s population, while the G7 accounts for less than 10%. With India, China, and Russia’s GDP expected to grow by approximately 4% this year, compared with 2% for Western economies, and with more countries set to join, the Brics have the wind of history in their sails. No wonder this summit is being described as a “Bretton Woods for the Global South”.

Nonetheless, Western countries have often dismissed the institutional relevance of the Brics, pointing out that the bloc is little more than a loose association of countries with often diverging economic and geopolitical interests. Furthermore, it has failed to offer a concrete alternative to the Western systems. While it is true that the Brics have privileged economic and infrastructural mutual cooperation, and the wider concept of “connectivity”, over formalised governance structure, this might be about to change.

Russia has played a driving role in the Brics’ evolution, instrumental in the initial formation of the group, the hosting of its first summit, the admission of South Africa, and the subsequent push for expansion. Positioned as a mediator between China and India, Russia has managed to maintain a key role within the organisation, making it a vital player in any institutional leap forward.

Now Russia has set the bloc a new strategic goal: de-dollarisation. The sanctions against Russia and the freezing of its assets by Western powers have underscored the need for financial independence, making the de-dollarisation agenda not just aspirational but a necessity — not just for Russia but for other countries as well. The main response so far from the rest of the Brics has been to increasingly settle their international trade in national currencies rather than the dollar, with remarkable outcomes: the volume of trade settled in the currencies of member nations has already surpassed that of dollar-based transactions.

But aside from the creation of the New Development Bank (NDB), which operates as an alternative to Western financial institutions like the IMF and World Bank, little has been done so far in terms of creating a valid alternative to the Western international financial-monetary infrastructure — a new Bretton Woods, so to speak. Could Kazan mark the beginning of a new era in this respect? So far details have been sparse, but in recent months speculation has been rife about the Brics’ plan to launch, possibly during the summit, a full-blown new global monetary ecosystem.

This would include a much-touted “Brics currency” — a unit of account used to settle international transactions and manage balance-of-payment problems, not to be confused with an actual supranational currency à la euro — as well as a groundbreaking blockchain-based international payment system aimed at providing an alternative to existing global financial systems, such as Swift, and the dollar-based financial infrastructure. The system would use blockchain technology to enable secure, transparent and immutable payment transactions across Brics member countries. Blockchain’s decentralised nature would eliminate the need for a central intermediary, making cross-border payments more efficient and less susceptible to censorship or interference from external entities.

The proposed payment system would not only support the de-dollarisation agenda but also provide a much-needed financial safety net for countries facing Western sanctions. If successful, this initiative could become the cornerstone of a new, decentralised global financial order that relies on digital technologies to challenge the dominance of the dollar. As Oleg Barabanov, programme director of the Valdai Discussion Club, a Moscow-based think tank, explains, this “could be the first step towards truly strengthening de-dollarisation within the Brics and broader non-Western world”. At the same time, countries “will retain full sovereign control over the traditional currencies of the Brics countries”.

Of course, this programme presents political as well as technical challenges. It’s important to note that not all the member states are on the same page on this issue. While Russia and China (also) want to use the Brics as a means to challenge the global dominance of the US — hence Russia’s insistence on the need for the new payment system to be completely decoupled from the dollar — not all members agree with this adversarial approach. Countries such as India, Saudi Arabia or Turkey are arguably more interested in rearranging the seats around the global table rather than building a new dining room altogether. But at a time of growing power bloc rivalry — and as the West leans more and more towards an “either you’re with us or against us” zero-sum mentality — how long will they be able to keep a foot in both shoes?

The 2024 Brics summit in Kazan couldn’t come at a more pivotal time for global geopolitics and economics. With significant economic and demographic weight, the Brics have the potential to reshape global governance, especially if they succeed in creating an alternative global financial architecture. Challenges remain, as noted, particularly in terms of managing the group’s non-hierarchical structure and accommodating the various positions of existing and aspiring members, but the Kazan summit may very well lay the groundwork for a new era in global economic relations.

How should the West react to these momentous changes? Given there’s little it can do to stop the ineluctable shift towards multipolarity, threatening countries that move away from the dollar, as Trump recently did, will only achieve the opposite effect; indeed, Western countries, especially in Europe, are already paying a high price for the West-Rest decoupling. They could choose, instead, to engage with the rest of the world on an equal footing, in the knowledge that a smaller share of global GDP doesn’t necessarily mean a lower standard of living — a lesson the Americans could learn from many European countries.

But the current geopolitical confrontation is about much than just economics. It’s about the end of five centuries of Western global dominance. And if history is anything to go by, we know that established powers rarely, if ever, accommodate the rise of other powers. No wonder, then, that the current global clashes are increasingly framed in civilisational terms. As Russia, Iran and China gather in Kazan to posit their new world order, it is quite possible that rather than auguring a new era, the meeting will be remembered as just another step on the road to conflagration — something which, arguably, is already playing out on the European eastern front as much as across the Middle East.


Thomas Fazi is an UnHerd columnist and translator. His latest book is The Covid Consensus, co-authored with Toby Green.

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Graham Cunningham
Graham Cunningham
3 days ago

Vladimir Putin may be a paranoid autocrat but when he talked about people in the West who want to “destroy [its]traditional values and impose their pseudo-values… which would corrode [it] from within” you surely have to ask yourself if does have a point? ( https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/invasion-of-the-virtue-signallers). This wasn’t a broadside against the West’s dollar hegemony; it was a calling out the West’s fifty year-long dismemberment of its own culture. He was talking about wokeness… things like white self-loathing-by-proxy and the fetishisation of sexual dysphoria. No, I wouldn’t fancy my chances as one of his political opponents in Russia but nevertheless – in these words – he did hit the nail on the head.
The Western political establishment has made mistake after mistake in its demonisation of Russia and is now paying the price with its emerging leadership of BRICS. In 1990 there was a great opportunity to embrace Russia; which opportunity was foolishly wasted (especially by the Americans and Brits). Russia’s geopolitical perspective (and every country has one of those) was casually trampled on. The naive thinking went something like this: either you instantly re-invent yourselves as a full-on liberal democracy from day one or you go straight back to the world’s naughty corner as enemy number one.

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Georgivs Novicianvs
Georgivs Novicianvs
3 days ago

The pot calling the kettle black. Putin himself is the embodiment of all things going against the traditional values. He was and is an operative of KGB, the organization that spearheaded the destruction of the Russian culture and succeeded at that. I live next to Russia and I don’t see one little bit remaining of their culture and values. Can you help me by naming one?

Kent Ausburn
Kent Ausburn
3 days ago

Overwhelmingly favoring autocratic “strongman” leadership?

Georgivs Novicianvs
Georgivs Novicianvs
2 days ago
Reply to  Kent Ausburn

I think there is a confusion here. Autocratic leadership is not necessarily part of traditional values. An authoritarian leader may be a revolutionary or a conservative, or evolve from the former to the latter like Napoleon did. My understanding of the traditional values is quite simple or simplistic, one might say. It includes four basic things: freedom, faith, family and private property. Now, in light of this, the modern day Russia doesn’t really have any of these in a good shape, and the Russia’s strongman’s record looks ridiculous on each of these. I mean, what’s traditional about the guy who dumped his wife publicly on TV and appropriated the most profitable businesses in the country? My general point is that the 19th century Russia was sorta kinda okay with these values and could take them further, but failed miserably at the decisive moment in 1917. The current Russian regime borrowed the worst pages from both the Russian Empire and Soviet Union books. It does not really stick to any values except power grab and self-enrichment. Yet it has been quite successful at convincing certain Western audiences that the autocratic leadership is inherent to traditional values and now is playing that card.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago

The commission of war crimes as standard military operating procedure?

mike otter
mike otter
2 days ago

Home made vodka, the vodka luge! the kazan (teapot), sour cream tarts, wearing animal skins, worshipping relics/ikons etc etc also driving like a maniac on 2 or 4 wheels. Yes Russia is very much Russia – as Boney M said – “oh those Russians” lol – almost forgot – the tradition of not smiling – ever! On a more serious note if we hadn’t excluded Yeltsin from the international banking & credit system we wouldn’t have Putin – well done UK/US. But don’t despair – look at the BRICS – what a shower. Something will bring US hegemony to a close but i doubt it will be these clowns. Worst of all Brazil is the least fecal of the lot – and look at the state of that place – all the Brazilieros i know left and won’t go back unless its a funeral. India, Russia and China are holes, much of which are fecal.

Peter B
Peter B
3 days ago

Sadly, rather too much wishful thinking in imagining the Russia would have turned out much better if only we’d done something differently after 1991. It has always lacked the basics to become a Western style democracy – things like rule of law, a free press, a functioning legal system, “high trust” culture in which corruption is actually detected and punished.
And quite delusional to imagine that Russia has any global leadership role these days. It’s all just posturing – yet another Potemkin village. The only country with any real authority and power in BRICS is China. India is the next most relevant. South Africa is frankly noise.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
3 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

What I think we ignore is the profound impact the KGB has had on USSR. Robert Conquest said he found the cruelty horrifying. A Finnish Colonel said the 250 years of Mongol Rule produced a people who were cruel and corrupt.
The KGB largely killed or forced to flee the vast majority of people who were enterprising and innovative which are needed to develop an economy.
Russia is a country which worships power and Putin behaves like a Tatar Khan but as they say scratch a Russian and find aTatar.

Bernard Davis
Bernard Davis
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

If a Finnish Colonel and a propagandist called Robert Conquest said it, that settles the matter.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 days ago
Reply to  Bernard Davis

have you read 3 vol version ? Sol
Amazon.co.uk : gulag archipelago

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, a Russian writer and dissident, is known for his powerful and thought-provoking quotes. Here are some of his notable quotes:
“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.”“Talent is always conscious of its own abundance, and does not object to sharing.”“In our country the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the state.”“Live with a steady superiority over life – don’t be afraid of misfortune, and do not yearn for happiness; it is, after all, all the same: the bitter doesn’t last forever, and the sweet never fills the cup to overflowing.”“Our envy of others devours us most of all.Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Put death toll from 198 to 1956 at 66M.

mike otter
mike otter
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Britain since the Blair era, and probably most of the Thatcher one!

Laurian Boer
Laurian Boer
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

We are in 2024. The Soviet Union doesn’t exist anymore.
By the way, are the Germans from (let’s say)1933 the same as those from (let’s say)1965? Many things can change over a few generations.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

If you took away Russia’s hydrocarbons and its nukes, it would have a “global leadership role” equivalent to that of Nauru.

mike otter
mike otter
2 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

True but thats part of the danger – they have so much resource they can’t quantify it. Moving their war industries east in 1941-42 was a big part of neutering the Germans, though the heroic defence by the Russians was also vital.

Martin M
Martin M
1 day ago
Reply to  mike otter

I guess it is easy to mount a “heroic defence” if a political officer will shoot you in the back if you waver.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago

It is technically impossible for any. to dominate and lead BRICS

Kathy Hayman
Kathy Hayman
3 days ago

For a paranoid autocrat Putin strikes me as extremely stable, measured and discerning. He has been in power for 25 years Russia the biggest country on Earth and I can’t imagine any of Western leaders coming anywhere close to that achievement. I cannot think of one single politician or leader in Europe America or the UK who is capable of making decent policies for ordinary people and carrying them out. One of the reasons of course for this dire state of affairs is that they are totally bought and paid for by the Israeli lobby so every single thing they do has to be vetted by the Zionists first. They are all puppets and vain ones at that.

0 01
0 01
3 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

Lost me there with the Jewish strawman talk.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

Putin, on the other hand, is famous for “making decent policies for ordinary people and carrying them out”.

mike otter
mike otter
2 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

True about Putin – his realpolitik ability is there, and scary. Not true about Zionists ( or Jews in general ). No race based theory can be shown to be true as humans are too alike and too complex for such simplifications. Theories about racists can be true – we know Obama is a racist as he says so, we strongly suspect Nachala are because of their actions. Yet Putin? no idea because he is good at politics and keeps his counsel

Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
2 days ago
Reply to  mike otter

Where does Obama say he is racist?

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago

Russia will be “enemy number one” for at least a century yet.

A Robot
A Robot
3 days ago

BRICS member countries, and those countries queuing to join, have little in common in terms of culture and politics. But they do all have common ground in needing to ignore Western hypocritical preaching about human rights, net zero, etc.

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago
Reply to  A Robot

Correct, one thing they have in common is they haven’t done any color revolutions, forever-wars, censorship, assassinations, or colonial projects that killed 40,000 + women and children this year.

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Georgivs Novicianvs
Georgivs Novicianvs
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Let me remind you that Russia is currently waging a war on Ukraine, its geographically and culturally closest neighbour. They planned to crush Ukraine in three days and it’ll be three years soon… Isn’t it their version of a colonial forever war?

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
3 days ago

Following the 2014 Maiden coup, it’s more Ukraine’s colonial war, except that they didn’t succeed in colonising anyone.

Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
3 days ago

That Is a bizarre statement. Even ignoring the fact that the Maidan revolution wasn’t a coup, it is very strange to deny the fact that Russias relationship with Ukraine have been colonial for hundreds of years (just like China’s to Tibet and Xinjiang).

Kathy Hayman
Kathy Hayman
3 days ago

The Maidan coup orchestrated by the United States of America with Anthony Binken and Victorian Nuland and John McCain in tow putting in a puppet West facing leader, followed in a few years by the comedian, Volodymyr Zelensky. NATO is responsible for all of this mess in Ukraine. They have recklessly spread their military bases eastwards so that they now surround Russia. Merkel admitted before she left office that they had never intended to stick to the Minsk agreements, that they were buying time. I’m sure that the Ukrainian Nazis were very keen to do the bidding of the United States since they hate Russians as do most European governments. Britain has been trying to destroy Russia since 1800s. I think we can safely say that they have failed.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

Russia united with Napoleon at one stage. The Britain was maritime nation and had no interest in Russia apart from Russia’s desire to dominate Eastern Europe.

lixowerst nameless
lixowerst nameless
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

“I believe it is peace for our time”

Do you by chance recollect who the phrase belongs to?
A hint for you: it happened less than a hundred years ago.
A some other event a bit earlier on – the Crimean War. Do you happen to know who waged it against the Russian empire? An alliance of the Ottoman empire, France, the UK and Sardinia-Piedmont.

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago

The attrition warfare model is serving them so well though. It has limited Russian deaths to move forward slowly under ISR protection, it has drained Ukraine and the West of equipment and men that we spent years building up, because NATO used old tactics of big sweeping moves and used old models of warfare, and war has changed. It has also given time for the West to get a bad taste in it’s mouth about project Ukraine, and so it has hurt the politicians and parties that pushed the war so that most of them and their parties are now getting crushed in elections. It also gave Germany time to start to see the cost and pay the price of deindustrialization as plants are now closing because of the loss of cheap Russian gas. At every level, the slow war thing has served them super well. In fact, it’s sort of amazing to me that people don’t see the kinds of things I just described. I guess censorship works.
The big deal for Russia though, is it’s only got about 1 million men tied up in this war, while the rest of the country has an economy that is outdoing the US and European economies as all these new BRICS relationships towards the East have paid off. Their future is bright, meanwhile Ukraine is going to lose bigtime, and not become a member of NATO after all. In fact, by the end of this Russia is going to have control of the entire northern portion of the Black Sea all the way to the Danube, and so land locked European nations that once only had the option of all the US or EU pressures to obey and conform will suddenly have access to the BRICS economies which are all doing better and better as time goes on.

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Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

All facts points to that it is Ukraine that is draining Russia through slowly withdrawing while killing far more Russian soldiers.

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago

I think the ratio is still 7 or 8 to 1. Meaning there are less than 100K deaths on the Russian side but over 600K on the Ukrainian side. It’s terrible without air cover, or enough artillery shells in this type of attrition warfare. There is a lot of blood on the hands of those who pushed them into this and have continued to prop it up until the US elections are over.
One good note is it doesn’t look like Blackrock is going to be able to gain from much of the land they bought. So Senator Lindsey Graham’s claim that we can’t afford to lose in Ukraine because it’s a “gold mine” worth over 12 Trillion in critical mineral is not going to pan out for the ghoulish Western war mongers. Also, General Austin’s comments in 2022 about the war being used to weaken Russia, and all the US congressional people who also made comments that it was all about a “cost effective way” to weaken Russia without the US having any skin in the game, yet according to NATO commander General Cavoli, not only has Russia not been weakened, but they have only grown much strong, and so the US and NATO are now faced with a much larger, stronger army right on NATOs Eastern border.
So, just like sanctions had the opposite effect, and Russia got richer and better off, and Europe got weaker and worse off, also the military of Russia got much better and the NATO military used up much of it’s inventories and is looking in a shambles.
I don’t say this with glee. I am upset, as we all should be at the leadership in the West is stupid, immoral and delusional, and they have made all of us in a much worse off situation in many different ways. For you and I to focus on Russia as the problem is exactly what they want. Unless of course you work for them, or somehow gaining from all of it, then I would expect you to double and triple down on doing so.
We need radically different views of the world and the way to approach it than our leadership in Europe and the US have been taking. The sooner we shift our policies and methods to better ones the less bad things will be going forward.

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Arthur G
Arthur G
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

No honest person believes that. Even the Wehrmacht in the salad early days of Operation Barbarossa didn’t achieve that casualty ratio.

Peter Spurrier
Peter Spurrier
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

You have no credibility. How many people do you think believe those figures or anything like them?

Kathy Hayman
Kathy Hayman
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

I haven’t read all the comments because most of them are absurd. I think this is pretty much spot on. Of course Western countries have been trying to weaken Russia for decades everybody knows that and clearly stated by the American warmongers. Russia is far from losing the war with Ukraine and with BRICS coming on stream the West will have a very bloody nose and about time too.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

I agree that the West is been trying to weaken Russia. That is sound policy, given that Russia is the “Evil Empire”.

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Kathy Hayman

Russia is so great – why not move there then?

Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

You are totally wrong regarding the ratio of the killed. It is more like 5 Russian soldiers killed for 1 Ukrainian.

Georgivs Novicianvs
Georgivs Novicianvs
2 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

This is either perverse sarcasm or some crazy AI writing.

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

What “censorship”? In my local (very small) supermarket in the Highlands of Scotland I can buy amongst other newspapers – The Daily Mail, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian, The Independent , The Daily Mirror, and The Morning Star. In other words, from right wing to centre to left wing to Communist. If I want to read about Russia/Ukraine from a very different standpoint I can go and buy the Morning Star. And how about that thing called the internet?

lixowerst nameless
lixowerst nameless
2 days ago
Reply to  McLovin

Is RT accessible too?

Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Irony?

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Both Russia and China had “Colour Revolutions” (the colour in both cases being red).

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago
Reply to  A Robot

Not sure about including net zero in the ‘hypocritical preaching’ bucket – first, many European economies are rapidly decarbonising, and even when you account for historic emissions and imports are now doing relatively well – they might be preaching, but not hypocritically. Second, China is the world’s largest producer, and consumer, of solar panels. They really don’t need to be preached to.

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Warren Trees
Warren Trees
3 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Really? You are aware that China is building coal-fired electric plants by the hundreds? China builds more new coal plants than rest of the world : NPR

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago

“Nonetheless, Western countries have often dismissed the institutional relevance of the Brics”
Just ask the almost couped Bolivian president how irrelevant Western countries (America) think BRICS is. BRICS success spells the eventual loss of the power of the US Dollar to bully, arm-twist, bribe, devalue, sanction, collapse, or reward those who either disobey, obey, or who are convenient or inconvenient to the interests of US global hegemony.
The moral of the story is that if you’re going to make or support endless war, and use your currency, finance, investment, disinvestment and the system of payment as a weapon all over the world, don’t be surprised if the world gets together and decides to create an alternative economic system. Especially if the alternative doesn’t bully them, respects their sovereignty, and doesn’t come with an LGBT requirement.
What is ending here in the eyes of many in the global South is the era of neo-colonialism. They see a new multi-polar world. Let’s hope it’s more peaceful than the current system.

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Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Very correct. UH at its censoring best again limiting something I wrote on similar lines. It’s a multi polar world now.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

The West can easily compete in world markets, as long as the current bunch of delusional marxists in Westminster and Whitehall are replaced by informed as well as intelligent, politicians and managers that understand how a modern economy depends on successful Scientists, Engineers, Craftsmen and women, and Businessmen and women that are willing to take smart risks.

It’s how Russia and China have advanced, and how the West became successful. And the wave of Marxist thinking, last century, across Africa is why it didn’t!

There’s plenty going wrong in the BRICS, but it’s a mote compared to the beam in DC.

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago

How can Europe compete with expensive green energy? Germany is shutting down auto plants because they lost access to cheap energy. Also, what about all the EU debt, and US dept for it’s forever wars? What about the cultural decline? The social decline?

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Terry M
Terry M
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

When goods (dollars) don’t cross borders, troops missiles and computer viruses will.

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Explain to me how Russia is not a colonial country. Ditto China.

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

I know, its going to be the end of war and conflict isn’t it. Indians will be in love the Chinese, the Russians with the Iranians and everyone is going to live happily ever after.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
3 days ago

I suppose the foundation for the US dollar hegemony was the fact that the US paid for World War II with Lend-Lease and then bailed out Europe again and again after the war.
While experts agree that the US is a vile hegemon, I doubt if too many countries would be happy with China or Russia as a hegemon. And anyway, which would get to be the Head Hegemon?

Martin M
Martin M
3 days ago

Perhaps Russia and China can have a war to see who gets to take on the role.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Tis the USA and it’s cohorts who are banging the drums of war
Why because they know as far as they concerned that The Game is Up for their so called
World Order

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Please get your hearing checked.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I shall do so but only if you get
Your IQ checked

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

….apart from the war that Russia is currently conducting in Ukraine, you mean?

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago

Russia and China are not proposing to make their currency the global reserve currency so as to be able to weaponize it. The BRICS is just facilitating an alternative payment solution to the Western Swift payment system, and everyone being able to resolve payments in their own currency. Although I think there might be some sort of gold (or basket of commodities) backed digital currency proposed at this meeting exclusively for international payment resolution. Not sure though, everyone is waiting for what is said and decided at this BRICS meeting.
Also, we should keep in mind that Trump said he would put huge tariffs on nations that don’t use the Swift/US Dollar system for trade that requires the worlds nations to own US treasuries. So, if he wins I am sure there will be some sort of deal making that keeps or allows both systems in some sort of way.

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Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

There will be a competition as to who is dominant in Asia, China or India. Vietnam and Philippines detest China. Brazil, Argentina and Mexico will compete as to is dominant in South America and South Africa and Nigeria will compete as to who dominates sub Saharan Africa. Egypt will want to dominate the Arab World. Malaysia and Indonesia will compete for dominance in South East Asia.
The GCC fear Iran, more so the USA appears unsure as to what it wants to undertake.
Turkey wants to extend it’s influence and probably fears Iranian support for   Syria.
The author completely ignores the power of technological evolution. The top 7 tech companies of the USA are 20 times the size of equivalent in Europe.
If the USA fully develops Shale oil and gas it will be able to export gas and be able to manufacture plastics.
The developed World requires 12 T of steel per person. The developing World will be unable to produce this amount. Also food and water will be inadequate for the growing population. The USA is able to produce vast amounts of food and could export sufficient amounts to undermine local food production. Cheap shale oil and gas means mean’s cheap fertilisers and food production.
The USA dominating software, AI, computing, being self- sufficient in energy and food and being able to export these commodities and perhaps plastics as well gives the country vast economic power. A developing world where leaders are unable to meet the aspirations of the population   who live in vast slums is recipe for instability. Much of the World has moved out of starvation which is good. The important question is what material quality of life those people who are now freed of starvation want and can the leaders create conditions for this growth?
What creates change is not what people have but what people aspire to have.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

And here is what China aspires to
The first 2 yrs from entry into The State primary schools
Great emphasis ( and continues
To a lesser degree as education
Progresses )
Upon Creating a beautiful China
That’s environmentally friendly
And sustainable not only for China but the whole of the World

Now think of 5 and 6 year olds
In US schools singing Star Spangled Banner every school day morning

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

How much do you get paid for these posts?

Steve White
Steve White
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

“will compete as to is dominant”

Neocons never develop mentally or emotionally beyond high school. Everything is in terms of their sports-ball zero-sum game “we win, you lose” mentality. They truly are the worst.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve White

Well said
The very last thing BRICS is about is any individual or a group of any members gaining
Hegomonic control of the Modus Operandi of BRICS

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

History indicates you are profoundly naive.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Your reply clearly indicates you know not that
That the Times are a changing
As President Xi said
You shall be left to wither and die

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Parts of Siberia used to be in China; will Russia give back these mineral rich lands? Pollution from industry is a major problem in China. The USA continues to innovate, China steals and copies.
People confuse time spent in schools with producing innovative and enterprising minds. G Stephenson was illiterate and AI was devloped by a Cambridge academic and the chips which it possible are manufactured by Nvidia the creation of three elctrical engineers.
China has a debt problem, perhaps 45 % will never be repaid.
Then there is the issue of steel ; how will this be resolved ?
Barely fifty people from Newton, Wren and Hooke onwards created the Industrial revolution but they were in Britain. In 1660 , Britain had had come out of a Civil War yet Newton did most of his work in his farmhouse between 1664 and 1666 but did not publish iuntil 1687.
Barely fifty people from Turing and Flowers onwards have created the modern computer industry but they were in the UK and USA.
Numbers spent in school does not mean that China is producing millions of Newtons.
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica
Darwin’s Theory of Evolution
Who has come close to Newton and Darwin ?

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Until there is a disagreement between the Big Three.

Josef Švejk
Josef Švejk
3 days ago

Those more insignificant smaller fleas such as South Africa and Saudi Arabia have a need to jump on the backs of the bigger fleas such as China and India. It won’t happen. None of them have the temperament to even get a woot in a bwothel. Too much colour and godly envy for the big boys.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  Josef Švejk

A most excellent display of pure ignorance in every sense of that word
Go study BRI & BRICS because
Should you do so then you shall
Rid yourself of such ignorance

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago

All BRICS members have equal voting rights
None have a veto

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
3 days ago

Yes, with all the belly aching about the terrible evil USA, one would think that the world was a peaceful, blissful place before WWII. Surely, the USA has gone down the wrong track over the last 20+ years, but without it we would all be speaking German. And the “oppressed” people of the world would not have to worry since they would have been “eliminated” by now in favor of the master race. And we are only talking about 80 years ago, not centuries. Anyone who advocates for the Russian or Chinese way of life has never lived there or ever read history.

0 01
0 01
3 days ago

BRICS is the cryptocurrency of geopolitics, It has some value but most of it is hype, as well as a lot of bad faith going on. The BRICS countries are poor, underdeveloped, heavily in debt and borderline bankrupt, as well as often unstable. The notion that the BRICs countries are going to overtake the West is just nonsense, pushed by Russian and to of us are extent Chinese propagandists, and spread by useful idiots such as leftist tankies and retrograde right ring reactionaries who for ideological reasons hate their own civilization such an extent that they wanted to fail, and the author of this article seems to count amongst their number. It’s weird because you don’t see any of this nonsense in other civilizations, or at least not to the extent you see it in the west. The only country that counts in BRICS is China or India. Russia has essentially been discredited as a great power due to the Ukraine Quagmire. China and India are at each other’s throats, and China is going through a horrible economic stagnation right now. Brazil has always failed to launch despite its potential, and South Africa is a borderline failed state. Even if Saudi Arabia joins, it is a one trick pony when it comes to economics, that being They only produce oil and they don’t produce anything else and are heavily dependent on imported labor both unskilled and skilled and have to import everything they use. The spectacular failure of the NEOM(The Line) project Just shows how incapable the regime is it reforming itself.

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Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  0 01

Food for thought
If you take into account the BRI and BRICS mechanism and add those Nations applying to join or seriously considering joining in
Then between them all
Over 80 % on average of vital global commodities
Such as Oil, Gas , Rare Earth Minerals to name but a few
Are held by those Nations
For the Layman put it this way
The Ice upon which the West is Skating upon is rapidly thawing

0 01
0 01
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Commodity-based economies are usually poor despite being rich in resources, as well as prone to boom and busts periods do to price fluctuations and are often heavily in debt do to reckless spending in the boom years. They are the way they are do to bad governance, do to a small oligarchy controlling most of the wealth and using to take part in state capture (Latin America) or the resources are state controlled and states uses the money from said resources to build a massive patronage network to buy people of to remain loyal to the government and repress those who don’t(Middle East). The only countries that are heavily commodity based that I can think of that are economically self-sufficient and developed are either caranda or Norway, and that because those countries made strong effort to create good Governance and invested in Human capital and cultivated a free market. The examples are listed about the middle east or Latin America have not done that very much if at all.

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Warren Trees
Warren Trees
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

I hear there are great deals on flats in places like Azerbaijan, Georgia and Uzbekistan.

Guy Haynes
Guy Haynes
3 days ago

The top two recommended responses, whilst not without merit, remind me of the Remainer arguments during Brexit.
“How can Brexit work? The people who want Brexit can’t even agree on what they want from Brexit! It’ll never happen, there are too many contradictions.”
But Brexit did happen, and it happened, not because there was a wonderful shared vision of what would happen next, but because enough people had become sufficiently fed up with an organisation that appeared to act at every opportunity against its people’s interests; which was becoming, if not corrupt, then incestuous; for which we were forced to pay for the privilege.
And so it is here. We have a US led global hegenomy, that ended the last period of war and which may well have once been benevolent. In many people’s views it is not benevolent any more. Rather than ending wars, it appears to seek to foment them and then prolong them – witness the panicked reaction to Israel’s recent successes, they do not want this conflict to end. Their aims do not in any way appear to benefit anyone other than a small number of billionaires, multinational corporations and politicos. Therefore, while the rest of the world might previously have been happy to tolerate the status quo, they will now argue that their hand is being forced by the conduct of the “other side”.
Sure, nobody knows what is going to happen next. It’s difficult to see how India, China and Russia can collaborate effectively going forward – but history tells us that none of this means it won’t happen.
Oh, and while I’m certainly not a qualified (or unqualified) geopolitical expert, I would expect that you will see the answer to the question of why the US is so obsessed with Ukraine, writ large in this discussion.

Jason Smith
Jason Smith
3 days ago
Reply to  Guy Haynes

Brexit happened, undoubtedly. But whether it has worked is much less certain

Agnes Aurelius
Agnes Aurelius
3 days ago
Reply to  Jason Smith

It hasn’t worked well because those in charge of implementing the necessary changes throughout the legal and economic system were hell bent on making sure it wouldn’t/couldn’t happen.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago
Reply to  Agnes Aurelius

Tall lampposts and short rope. It is not democracy if those voted into do something lawful and approved refuse to do so.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago
Reply to  Guy Haynes

It’s fruitful to ask why so many people from the Brics want to live in the US and its orbit democracies.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
3 days ago

NATO’s post-Cold War expansion is an error that impacts the West negatively as much as it’s brought together the high-growth developing nations. For instance, the conflict it’s provoked has hit European economies hard. Basically, NATO expansion is an American go-economic tool to expand its energy markets.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

The conflict in Ukraine was provoked by Russian revanchism. It could have chosen a democratic path but the criminal elites in charge chose otherwise.

Micael Gustavsson
Micael Gustavsson
3 days ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

NATO doesn’t “expand”, countries apply to join, and are either accepted (by all members) or not. The reason countries like Estonia or Poland entered NATO is that they wanted to, and banged the drum hard enough to get in. There was certainly no enthusiasm from the US, and definitely no push for “expansion”.

Michael Clarke
Michael Clarke
3 days ago

Very good piece. This one is closer to the mark than the one by Ralph Schoellhammer. The BRICS are not a proto economic or military union nor should they be. The EU single currency has been a disastrous experiment. Why would the BRICS want to repeat it? If anything, they are a proto Global South UN, which, I suspect, is one of the reasons Antonio Guterres is at Kazan. He obviously wouldn’t want the UN to split but he must be aware that the West has abused its power so much in the last quarter of a century that it could happen.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
3 days ago

This article is second-rate, much like BRICS, a grouping of singularly unimpressive nations (India excluded). Birds of a feather flock together, and all that. I had trouble picking his point out of his abundance of words. I fear he is of that school of authors who has not yet heard that ‘Less is More’. (One could say that of government, by the way.)

England’s administrative genius helped its former colonies perform astonishingly well, far more than those of France, Holland, and Spain. Nations such as the America, England, Australia, and such hold strongly to Justice, Truth, and Peace, concepts derived from a strong Judeo-Christian foundation and paired with the sound sense of the Anglo-Saxon peoples.

I have full confidence that the grouping of malcontents named above will not ‘inherit the earth’.

0 01
0 01
3 days ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

The only reason India Joined BRICS was to prevent China from using the group against them, how can BRICS rival the west when two of its biggest members are at each others throats, with the former get closer with the west to counter China.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  0 01

Just yesterday India and China reached agreement as to how settle the outstanding Border Issues
Keep up Keep up Old Chap

Peter Spurrier
Peter Spurrier
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

I’m sure neither India nor China really believe that.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Let’s see how long that lasts.

lixowerst nameless
lixowerst nameless
2 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

In any case their agreement will last for 15 minutes longer than any US devised plan.

Nick Wade
Nick Wade
3 days ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

“Nations such as the America, England, Australia, and such hold strongly to Justice, Truth, and Peace”

I had to chuckle at this in the wake of the lies, censorship, and state corruption in collusion with big corporations during Covid, not to mention our recent exposure to “2 Tier Kier”. Your idealism is touching.

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Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

And with regards England’s Administrative Genius getting on with HS 2
You will shocked to the core if you Pro rata England / China HS rail
With regards cost / Km
And Time to complete and commission/ Km
And that’s just for starters
England are now a Nation of Coolies
Nomenclature you applied in Empire days to the Chinese labourers building railways and docks in Singapore
Just yesterday China tested a prototype Train that travels at 1000 Km / hour
London to Birmingham in less than 10 mins

Nick Wade
Nick Wade
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

I think he’s out by a century, and thinks it’s still 1924.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Nice of them to agree to run it from London to Birmingham.

M Lux
M Lux
2 days ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Wow, I thought the Kool Aid drinkers were bad, but now I see some people prefer to swim in it.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago

Excellent article Thomas. I have been following the Brics for many years. As China plays ‘the long game’ so should Brics. Currently they are an economic organization becoming more political and perhaps someday more a defence alliance.. You paint a good look of the big picture and a peak into the future. There is a ‘pivot to the East and Global South’. As you describe ‘a momentous global shift’ It is just reality. For me the reasons are clear. For some not so clear as the comments show. Well done Fazi.

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Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago

BRICS in fact can prevent a conflagration if neutral powers like India, Saudi Arabia and Brazil with economic pelf hold ground.
The Cold War polarisation doesn’t work at all- whether from the West or Russia- China.

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Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
3 days ago
Reply to  Sayantani G

Cold war was better than mass slaughter by communists . Have you read Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn ?
The Gulag Archipelago: (Abridged edition) (Vintage Classics): Amazon.co.uk: Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr, Peterson, Jordan: 9781784871512: Books
A Lithuanian friend was a child when the USSR occupied his country in 1939, there was mass slaughter. Katyn Wood ring a bell?
Well if Stalin had taken control of Europe in 1945 and with Mao taking control of China in 1950, there would have been mass slaughter. The death toll in USSR from 1918 to 1956 was 66M and China up to late 1970s is 70M, Cambodia is 1m plus , Ethiopa 1M plus.
The Sino Indian war of 1962 did not go well for India . China is now friendly with Pakistan and have a naval base in Sri Lanka . China is now in a stronger position in regard to India than in 1962.
Norman Borlaug – Wikipedia
Norman Baulag saved tens of millions live while Mao was slaughtering his countrymen by the tens of millions.
Are you saying the USA is on the same level as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin and China under Mao ?

Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

I think you need to keep up with latest geo- politics in South Asia. You may not be aware that the Democrats have sponsored extreme Islamism in Bangladesh and there are pogroms against Hindus and other minorities since regime change sponsored by Clintonistas in State Department.Those forces with ties to ISI and terrorist groups are roaming freely.
Suggest you also realise that the Anglosphere is traditionally pro Pakistan.
I am sure you are au courant with what the Biden administration has unleashed in the US in terms of authoritarian methods.
India and China have just announced border agreement.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
3 days ago
Reply to  Sayantani G

So you trust The Communist Party of China which has killed 70M Chinese people and now has a naval base in Sri Lanka?
It was not so much that the UK was pro Pakistan as India was pro USSR. Equipping yourself with Soviet Tanks may not have been a good idea as they can be destroyed by a £ 20K NLAW Missile.
NLAW – Wikipedia
It would appear that Russian tanks have a design flaw which makes them vulnerable to attacks from above.

Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

It’s called National interest. I thought you know what Palmerston said. If the US wants to unleash Islamist terrorism in India via Bangladesh you will reap what you sow.
I think you could educate yourself more on the Clinton sponsored regime change. Perhaps you are missing the big picture and getting lost in inane referencing. In any case what is your take on major Wall Street investments in China?
India is not stupid to think that the West will help it if China attacks. In 2020 when Galwan happened all that the Us led West did was to make noises about how they should de- escalate.
India is certainly not going to fight proxy wars for the US. It will defend itself by itself if it has to, instead of being cannon fodder for US wars.
Do you not recall how the UK was sending Royal Navy along with the US Seventh Fleet against India in 1971 which prompted the Indo Soviet treaty?
And where was the SU in 1948 when the entire British establishment under Labour propped up the Pakistani attack on Kashmir?
Partition wasn’t inevitable. Read Narinder Singh Sarila to learn the real story.

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Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 days ago
Reply to  Sayantani G

From what has happened in the Ukraine I would not want to fight In Russian vehicles against modern missiles and drones.
In 1948 Britain was more concerned about feeding Germany, stopping communists taking over Europe and rebuilding the nation. I cannot imagine many people who had spent years at war and having had their homes destroyed by bombing who were mainly Labour voters much concerned about Kashmir. We also still had Palestine to worry about.
Kashmir is an issue which only India and Pakistan can resolve.
 In 1971 NATO was far more worried about the Warsaw Pact which out- numbered it in vehicles and guns by 2.5 to 1 up 4 .1. 3.1 considered critical numbers for an attack. Next on the list was the Middle East.
If there is   a conflict between China and India what will Russia do? Russia’s inability to win demonstrates it’s weakness and inability to defend the mineral rich parts of Siberia which they took from China in the 19th century? If China is in a conflict with India, it is likely they will order Russia not to   supply . China has more leverage on Russia than the other way.
If one looks at conflict in Europe up to 1945, there were many alliances which did not withstand war.  Countries rarely   sacrifice self- interest to help others , just look at war in Europe from 1793 to 1815

Sayantani G
Sayantani G
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Please realise that what you read in Western Msm is not necessarily true.
Unless the US Democrats stop their anti India posturing and pro Pakistan pro Islamist stances, BRICS will continue.
As a historian of the Partition, and someone in the know of things, Russia has never been hostile to India.
In that vein I can also state that the notion of neutrality in 1948 was a myth and that most of the British Establishment in India( armed forces in particular) were pro Pak.
It’s OT discussing here but read Dark Secrets by Iqbal Malhotra and Sarila to know more.
Other than Trump and JFK, it is the US which under Neo Con grip is the problem; though the Defence Department is pro India.

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Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
1 day ago
Reply to  Sayantani G

During WW2 the issue was who would support Britain by sending soldiers overseas.
Most of the ICS were pushing for Dominion status for India pre-1939. During WW2 there was an understanding that India would gain independence if it supported Britain in the war.
Due to issues with Afghans most of the armed forces were stationed in NW India, present day Pakistan. As a proportion of the population more Muslim volunteered than Non Muslims.
There was large proportion of the Hindu and communist population( mainly in Calcutta) who did not support Britain, in South and East of country .
In 1946, Britain had to reduce bread ration to feed Germany. In 1948 the USSR blocked Berlin so the UK and USA had to airlift supplies, Palestine was reaching peak of violence, communists took over Czechoslovakia and NATO was formed in 1949.
The Iron Curtain was formed in 1948. Communist killed those trying to escape. The mass slaughter only slowed down in 1956.India has sided with the USSR/Russia, a country which murders and tortures it’s own people. Consequently it has no compunction doing worse to it’s enemies.The Gulag Archipelago is about the USSR not the West.
Whenever people talk about Geopolitics, always look how leaders treat their own people.
In order to innovate the mind has to be free. Totallitarian regimes which to control peoples minds therefore limit innovation. The two greatest acts of insight into the nature of the universe are by Newton and Darwin who lived in free countries.

Sayantani G
Sayantani G
1 day ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Your pronouncements are not entirely factual. Please realise that since 1939 when the armed forces opened up for non martial races in India, there were more non Muslims in the BIA than ever. Even in North West India there were sizeable Sikh population and many joined the BIA.
You donot even realise the nuance of the events leading upto Partition. As far as Bengal is concerned, there was complexity of a great kind. It’s not as simplistic as you assert and I should know as I am writing about it.
If you knew something about 1950s India you would know that till 1958 the Naval chief was a Briton as was the IAF chief till 1954; till 1963 MI5 was closely aligned with IB and that Nehru’s policy of non alignment was essentially more of a desire to keep out of Cold War politics on the surface. In actuality there were deep linkages between Britain and India in intelligence sharing, armed forces etc which actually harmed India as Britain no longer had the power to oppose the US which supported Pakistan.
Sorry, there is no point in conducting such a discussion if you fail to see the basic narrative flow of Indian history.

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Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Good comment, but the Katyn Massacre was in Poland not Lithuania.

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
2 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Katyn is located near Smolensk in Russia, the Poles were taken there, the Nazi’s discovered the mass graves when they invaded Russia.

Martin M
Martin M
1 day ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

Ah, yes. So it is. It is a good day on which one learns something.

Chris Carter
Chris Carter
3 days ago

Have you looked at Chinese and Russian demographics?
Working age populations falling and on the verge of total collapse.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago
Reply to  Chris Carter

Good point. The Brics are dependent on the west and trade pressures will accelerate their multiple crises.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
3 days ago
Reply to  Chris Carter

There’s plenty going wrong in the BRICS countries, but their politicians don’t hate the people like ours do. They haven’t inflicted uncontrolled immigration, woke and NET Zero policies that are destroying the Energy Industries, restrictioning transport, food supplies, travel, the quality of education, and increasing waste.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago

Their politicians very often treat their people with complete contempt, which is very obvious in the dictatorships among them.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago

Yeah. Putin just feeds Russian people into a meatgrinder. You can’t call that “hate”, because he is doing it for his own greater good.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
3 days ago
Reply to  Chris Carter

the same can be said of the West.

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
3 days ago

The road to conflagration? Or not. The emerging, multi-polar world may be more stable. We will see.
In any case, a debate in the early 1990’s in the Imperial capital revolved around the idea of a post-Soviet “peace dividend” and the “Wolfowitz Doctrine.” The “peace dividend” involved the idea that the United States could sharply throttle back defense spending. The Wolfowitz Doctrine, came out of the memo leaked in 1992. The idea here was to suppress the rise of any rival in the new, uni-polar world. Usual suspects included Russia, China, Japan and Germany.
The Wolfowitz concept didn’t really go anywhere before September 11, 2001. By that September 11, however, both Paul Wolfowitz and d**k Cheney were back in government. (Cheney had been Wolfowitz’s boss over at the Pentagon in 1992.) They now had their chance to launch their program. Other, anti-Putin parties were happy to go along.
A seemingly incongruous part of the program, however, involved elevating China. Those people really did believe that China would allow itself bo be passively integrated itself into the Wolfowitz concept of the New World Order. Alas, China is not a pliant Japan or pliant Germany.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago

Well Russia, Iran and China bought and oaid for the corrupt ineffective leadership of the West, so here we are.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago

The elites of many Brics countries educate and house their families in America and its client democracies. Ask why and you’ll understand why multi-polarity has definite limits. It’s already here anyway by the way

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago

International cooperation is hard. Getting any grouping of states to put aside differences to collaborate for shared benefit, without a lot of coercion from a big power is almost impossible, especially when it comes to issues that actually sway national fortunes.
Whatever you think about the EU, for the EU to manage substantive, non-forced cooperation took years of institutional and legal wrangling. And that’s, when most European countries have broadly similar political systems, cultures and geopolitical priorities. It was hard.
Current international institutions, while much, much less integrated than the EU, also rest upon the shared norms and interests of Euro-American (+ other democratic) elites, as well as the backing of American hard and soft power.
What does the BRICs have exactly? They have almost no shared incentives. The second they try to actually implement or institutionalise anything which requires the sacrifice of members (i.e. anything important), countries will defect to pursue their own priorities. Especially given half of them are unstable and/or ruled by wilful dictators.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
3 days ago

I have been following the BRI & BRICS initiatives from the beginning
A fairly presented article this is however key areas are omitted
One plan is for the BRICS currency to be underwritten by gold
Hence gold doubling in value in just one year as China ,India & Russia have been purchasing huge amounts every month for over 15 months now mainly using US debt treasury bonds as payment
BRICS has a Central Bank with plans to invite BRICS members to tie in their own Central banks
Regards the World Bank the USA has a veto effectively able to get it’s own way one way or another
Also The IMF is effectively controlled by the USA because they always hold the Presidency
Overall this is worth 3.5 to 4.0 % annually to the US economy
And as for other rich Western Nations one way or another all this is worth 2% to their economies
Qoute President Xi
‘ A new Civilisation is being created that is based on a fair equitable
Basis and one that is entirely Eco friendly and sustainable for all Mankind , As for those who do NOT want join then they shall merely find themselves left behind to wither and die

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UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
3 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Wait….you posted that as serious, and not as an ironic joke….

Bret Larson
Bret Larson
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

You can’t eat gold.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

Ha ha ha ha ha! That President Xi is a funny guy!

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

8M people died building the great wall of China; Mao surpassed this with 70M dead. Is this civilisation ?

McLovin
McLovin
2 days ago
Reply to  Brian Doyle

‘ A new Civilisation is being created that is based on a fair equitable basis and one that is entirely Eco friendly and sustainable for all Mankind’
If you believe that then my question is what are you taking? I think I’d like to try some.

Matthew Freedman
Matthew Freedman
1 day ago

Well the west needs a strategy to stop a bipolar world with rest of the world against the west. There’s no point shrugging shoulders.

David Walters
David Walters
3 days ago

The short answer is no

R S Foster
R S Foster
3 days ago

…if and when the rich and powerful men running the BRIC’s start stashing their money, purchasing a discreet and secure mansion, and educating their children in each other’s capital cities…I might be worrying.
Until then, not so much. They might well be profiting from oppressing and brutalising the people unfortunate enough to live in the sh!tty hellholes they loot and pillage…
…but they all make d#mn sure they can make a run for London, New York, Paris or Rome when their palace guards change sides and they need to take to their heels…

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Chris Maille
Chris Maille
2 days ago
Reply to  R S Foster

Obviously, you have neither been to any major US or european capital recently, nor to any of the booming cities in China, Russia, India or the Arabian Gulf region.

Martin M
Martin M
2 days ago
Reply to  Chris Maille

I haven’t actually been to them, but do I understand that things have been going “boom” in some Russian cities.

Chris Maille
Chris Maille
1 day ago
Reply to  Martin M

Exactly, ‘boom’ is the word. And ‘grind’ is the word to describe what is happening to cities under western influence.

Kent Ausburn
Kent Ausburn
3 days ago

The mostly autocratic leaders of the “Global South” are migrating to the BRICS but, ironically, the people populating these countries are overwhelmingly migrating to the US and Europe in droves. Strange, that.

James Kirk
James Kirk
3 days ago

They overrun the world like locusts and pick it clean. Their cult like religions are a curse.They are a plague.

Bernard Davis
Bernard Davis
3 days ago
Reply to  James Kirk

Are you referring to the European colonial powers of the late 19th Century? If so, spot on.

Angus Douglas
Angus Douglas
3 days ago

Evil regimes of a feather

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
3 days ago

There are huge differences within this motley crew of brics as compared to G7 , which has forged global agreements and coordination for well over 50 years. The idea that this disparate ragtag bunch can get together and succeed is almost laughable. Only China and India are large and rich enough, and they have major differences and barely get along. Russia is now totally dependent on China, and even need North Korea to help them in Ukraine. Iran and Saudi Arabia are in conflict to control the arab middle east, and Iran is an economic basket case with a radical Islamic government. South Africa has over 30% unemployment and is also a political and economic basket case. Brazil is hanging in there, but like most of South America have huge problems. Egypt and Ethiopia are irrelevant and have major problems as well. It’s obvious that China will be the leader of the pack, but those other countries better be careful what the wish for if they think western domination was bad. A brics currency is so far from happening and I definitely would not sell US dollars or Euros and buy that crap.

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
3 days ago

The world has been ‘multi-polar’ for a long time.
Most of the Brics have serious structural problems and will never gain the heights of the American economy, which is what will keep it on top in every meaningful sense of the word.

Norfolk Sceptic
Norfolk Sceptic
3 days ago
Reply to  Dash Riprock

The EU is in an even worse state !

Martin M
Martin M
3 days ago

Now Russia has set the bloc a new strategic goal: de-dollarisation“. The US needs to set a new strategic goal for the West: The military and economic evisceration of Russia.

Bret Larson
Bret Larson
3 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

The problem with dedollarization is that they don’t trust each other.

0 01
0 01
3 days ago
Reply to  Bret Larson

What going to replace the dollar if they go through with it, which I doubt they as a group are going to despite what Russia and China want, India has said as such is not going to happen.

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Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago
Reply to  0 01

A key Brics issue is use of national currency in trade among themselves to offset US dollar sanctions. India is a prime mover of this.

0 01
0 01
3 days ago
Reply to  Sayantani G

Then good luck with a bunch of largely useless currencies that many international vendors wont accept do to their low value or trust in them. There is a reason why the Doller in so widespread in international trade, its not just because it has high value, its because the US government and the financial system is stable and reliable despite the hang ups with them. That fosters trust in it and thus makes it not just high value but stable, making international transactions more predictable with its use, as well as great exchange rates that come with it. That fact that is so widely used just makes it more convent. I doubt anyone is going to take South African Rand as a medium of exchange do to awful state that county is in, or take money in the form of the Yuan do to how unpredictable the Chinese regime is do the primacy of politics that hangs over everything the regime dose and the fact their currency is heavily manipulated.

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Sayantani G
Sayantani G
3 days ago
Reply to  0 01

Wake up and smell the coffee. Multi polarity comes about if the US acts as bully boy as it has been doing with freezing dollar reserves of those it seeks to dominate.
The world doesn’t depend on the West anymore to call the shots. Of course there are intra BRICS issues and problems, but as manufacturing has shifted to the non West, and the Woke ,one size fits approaches of the Western Establishment which is supra- national instead of Westphalian, doesn’t accord well with most non Western nations, this was bound to happen.

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Bret Larson
Bret Larson
3 days ago
Reply to  0 01

Well, I do international trade. And the only countries we don’t use usd is Australia and New Zealand. And it’s usually to our loss because commodities are in usd so if you sell in usd you are hedged.

Last edited 3 days ago by Bret Larson