Back at Entocycle, tucked away in a railway arch a stone’s throw from London Bridge, I put all of these points to Olivares Whitaker, who has a degree in environmental design and conservation. He seems unfazed: “The phrase ‘plenty more fish in the sea’ is a complete fallacy. The latest data says we have exhausted more than 51% of all fish. We have destroyed the coral reefs, the nurseries of the ocean. By messing up the coral reefs, you mess up the juvenile fish populations, and if you mess up the juvenile fish populations, you mess up all the seabirds, you mess up the seabirds, you mess up the ecosystem.
“Our rainforests are being cut down for large monoculture crops. What most people don’t realise is that 90% of all soy that’s brought to the UK doesn’t go into your soy burger or your soy milk. It goes straight in to feed the cow, straight in to feed the pig, straight in to feed the chicken. And it’s really unhealthy for most animals to be eating this stuff. They’re being force-fed rations which are the lowest cost to the highest value.
“I couldn’t sit back and just watch that, so I began looking at insects. How do insects currently act in the food web? Because the rotting apple falls from the tree, the insect eats the apple, the bird eats the worm, and off we go up the food web. It’s just normal. Every single animal on this planet, including humans, has been eating insects for millions of years.”
While Entocycle used to farm larvae for the pet-food industry, its focus today is on designing insect farms that ensure the greatest ratio of “protein in” to “protein out” – and, yes, to achieve the highest levels of welfare based on the company’s own research. And, so far, this mission is selling well. It has, for instance, recently attracted £4.2 million in funding from US investors and £3.3 million from Innovate UK, a government-backed body that provides money and support to industry. Meanwhile, Olivares Whitaker’s team of 35 engineers, designers, computer specialists and entomologists have contracts to design facilities in the Middle East and the UK that will produce thousands of tonnes of protein each year. And, as a welcome by-product, almost half of each farmed larvae contains excrement that can be used as a rich fertiliser.
“We are now facing a fertiliser crunch,” Olivares Whitaker says. “People don’t realise that the fertiliser industry is screwed since the war in Ukraine, and prices have quadrupled. Here, we have a perfect, organic and sustainable way of producing high-quality fertiliser using black soldier flies feeding on waste.”
But what about welfare concerns, and the claim that farming insects is inefficient? “Waste isn’t perfect,” he says. “You can’t just feed any waste to animals — for example, we saw with cows and BSE what happened when we fed them waste derived from other animals. Farmers need to know exactly what is in the protein they are feeding their animals. You can’t just feed anything to, say, pigs. But black soldier flies could feed off anything and turn it into high-quality protein.”
At present, however, UK rules don’t allow flies to be farmed that have been fed on excrement, but they could be — and the end product would be perfectly safe for animals and even humans. In developing countries with sewage disposal and protein security problems, governments are already looking at the possibilities of farming with insects.
So, what about the welfare side of the argument? I direct Olivares Whitaker to a paper written by Dr Meghan Barrett, another co-author of “Can insects feel pain?”, entitled “Challenges in farmed insect welfare”, in which she argues that farmed black soldier flies are susceptible to five welfare issues: nutritional inadequacies, larval overcrowding and overheating, unmet needs for mating behaviour, starvation, and inhumane slaughter.
But he’s having none of it. “If you get any of those five requirements wrong, your farm simply won’t work. If you starve your flies, they’re not going to breed your next generation of larvae. If you don’t meet their needs for mating behaviour, you’ll have nothing to farm. The welfare of the insects goes hand in hand with how successful and productive your operation will be.”
What if the government legislated to include insects in farming welfare regulations — would the industry comply? “I personally would welcome welfare regulations,” says Olivares Whitaker. “If you didn’t care for every aspect of their needs, your farming system simply wouldn’t work and you’d be out of business.”
I asked the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs if it had any plans to bring insect farming into line with other types of animal farming welfare, but it didn’t reply. Perhaps ministers are concerned that the public isn’t ready for insects to be deserving of concern. That might be true, but it’s hard to argue in a protein-insecure world that Olivares Whitaker is wrong. And one day soon, it won’t just be animals being fed on insects — we’ll be eating them, too.
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SubscribeUltra processed foods are bad. They are low in micronutrients, low in biotics, and meals using them will be mainly factory produced. Remember when we all realised ultra processed foods were bad?
Insect based food that is edible, appetising and in a meal ready form requires ultra+ processing. Grown in industrial units, lots of water and energy is used to remove biomass and excreta, more energy to cool them to inactivate, more energy heat them to kill viruses and bacteria, more energy to dry to a powder, then come the additives to stabilise lipids, then they must be mixed with things like defatted soy, gelling agents and moisture stabilisers to create something that is easy to eat. You don’t need to be a food scientist to see this results in a narrow nutritional profile.
Yay protein, but what about everything else found in meat and not found in this insect mash? Just like the wonderous processed food innovations of the 50s and 60s, which turned out to be less than wonderous, this is all about money.
The investors of insect tech are also very big spenders on global political activism. It doesn’t take a political scientist to see that the investors are buying a regulatory environment that will force consumers to buy this pap. It isn’t about the planet. It isn’t about your health. It is just another business opportunity.
Needn’t stop us eating the raw (unprocessed/”organic”) insects then !
Many more commonsense points in this gentleman’s post, than in the article’s lame observations. It is indeed all about money and subservience to Climate Change/Net Zero dogma.
Not enough food on the planet? The answer is more food independence and self reliance. If more people grew their own or used local suppliers, converted their front lawns to veggie patches, and were allowed to keep chickens in their back gardens, food crises would disappear.
No need to import so much food from the far side of the world, no supply chain problems, and destructive monoculture farming would fade away.
But oh dear, localised food production would then render the giant food corporations and their investment plans for insects, obsolete…
Try and get your local MP to support that one.
Everybody having their own little veggie patch is an incredibly inefficient way of feeding the world, not to mention largely impossible in densely built cities
That’s a very simplistic and unrealistic comment. For starters people living in cities don’t have lawns and backyards. I don’t think insect farming is only about making money and buying from local farmers obviously hasn’t worked.
Everybody having their own little veggie patch is an incredibly inefficient way of feeding the world, not to mention largely impossible in densely built cities
That’s a very simplistic and unrealistic comment. For starters people living in cities don’t have lawns and backyards. I don’t think insect farming is only about making money and buying from local farmers obviously hasn’t worked.
Could it not be about both making money and filling a need?
Needn’t stop us eating the raw (unprocessed/”organic”) insects then !
Many more commonsense points in this gentleman’s post, than in the article’s lame observations. It is indeed all about money and subservience to Climate Change/Net Zero dogma.
Not enough food on the planet? The answer is more food independence and self reliance. If more people grew their own or used local suppliers, converted their front lawns to veggie patches, and were allowed to keep chickens in their back gardens, food crises would disappear.
No need to import so much food from the far side of the world, no supply chain problems, and destructive monoculture farming would fade away.
But oh dear, localised food production would then render the giant food corporations and their investment plans for insects, obsolete…
Try and get your local MP to support that one.
Could it not be about both making money and filling a need?
Ultra processed foods are bad. They are low in micronutrients, low in biotics, and meals using them will be mainly factory produced. Remember when we all realised ultra processed foods were bad?
Insect based food that is edible, appetising and in a meal ready form requires ultra+ processing. Grown in industrial units, lots of water and energy is used to remove biomass and excreta, more energy to cool them to inactivate, more energy heat them to kill viruses and bacteria, more energy to dry to a powder, then come the additives to stabilise lipids, then they must be mixed with things like defatted soy, gelling agents and moisture stabilisers to create something that is easy to eat. You don’t need to be a food scientist to see this results in a narrow nutritional profile.
Yay protein, but what about everything else found in meat and not found in this insect mash? Just like the wonderous processed food innovations of the 50s and 60s, which turned out to be less than wonderous, this is all about money.
The investors of insect tech are also very big spenders on global political activism. It doesn’t take a political scientist to see that the investors are buying a regulatory environment that will force consumers to buy this pap. It isn’t about the planet. It isn’t about your health. It is just another business opportunity.
I will not eat the bugs, and I will be happy.
Mind if I ask why not? Personally I’ll happily eat any animal, rodent, mammal, fish insect etc. If it tastes nice I don’t see the issue
Yet we no doubt eat animals which eat the bugs – or animals which eat animals which east the bugs. That’s how the food chain works.
I have no desire to eat bugs. But I’ve never tried them. And don’t foresee this weird conspiracy theory future where we will somehow be “forced” to eat them. If it’s a safe option and some people want to, why not ?
you may not know you’ll be eating them. It won’t say “bugs” on the ingredient list.
Mind if I ask why not? Personally I’ll happily eat any animal, rodent, mammal, fish insect etc. If it tastes nice I don’t see the issue
Yet we no doubt eat animals which eat the bugs – or animals which eat animals which east the bugs. That’s how the food chain works.
I have no desire to eat bugs. But I’ve never tried them. And don’t foresee this weird conspiracy theory future where we will somehow be “forced” to eat them. If it’s a safe option and some people want to, why not ?
you may not know you’ll be eating them. It won’t say “bugs” on the ingredient list.
I will not eat the bugs, and I will be happy.
Guess I’m a knuckle dragger. I’m really not super interested in the welfare of insects. I’m not running around stepping on worms or anything, but I just can’t get emotionally invested in the colonial exploitation of insects.
PS. Please stop with the nonsense about coral reefs. For 30 years we’ve been lectured about the Great Barrier Reef on its deathbed. Now we find out it has the greatest coral cover since monitoring started in the ‘80s. No one wants to tell us the good news though. A recent survey found only 3% of Australians even knows this.
Guess I’m a knuckle dragger. I’m really not super interested in the welfare of insects. I’m not running around stepping on worms or anything, but I just can’t get emotionally invested in the colonial exploitation of insects.
PS. Please stop with the nonsense about coral reefs. For 30 years we’ve been lectured about the Great Barrier Reef on its deathbed. Now we find out it has the greatest coral cover since monitoring started in the ‘80s. No one wants to tell us the good news though. A recent survey found only 3% of Australians even knows this.
The article asks: Will we end up eating insects?
As is Unherd’s wont, it wouldn’t surprise me if an article appears (perhaps tomorrow) asking: Will insects end up eating us?
I expect the bees are busy doing their research to establish human sentience. The buzz suggests they’ve yet to establish conclusive evidence.
The amount of times the little stripy b@stards have stung me I can only assume that they believe humans don’t feel pain
Too bad bees die after they’ve stung us. I wish it would happen to mosquitoes.
Too bad bees die after they’ve stung us. I wish it would happen to mosquitoes.
The amount of times the little stripy b@stards have stung me I can only assume that they believe humans don’t feel pain
The article asks: Will we end up eating insects?
As is Unherd’s wont, it wouldn’t surprise me if an article appears (perhaps tomorrow) asking: Will insects end up eating us?
I expect the bees are busy doing their research to establish human sentience. The buzz suggests they’ve yet to establish conclusive evidence.
Guess I’m a knuckle dragger. I’m really not super interested in the welfare of insects. I’m not running around stepping on spiders or anything, but I just can’t get emotionally invested in the colonial exploitation of insects.
PS. Please stop with the nonsense about coral reefs. For 30 years we’ve been lectured about the Great Barrier Reef on its deathbed. Now we find out it has the greatest coral cover since monitoring started in the ‘80s. No one wants to tell us the good news though. A recent survey found only 3% of Australians even knows this.
Now we find out……..Some of us have known this “forever”. Stop listening to the BBC “Expert” – he is a charlatan and has been challenged several times on this and other subjects. Amazingly he has gained not just one, but two knighthQoods from his lies (Some believed by the “highest family in the land”)
PS What’s wrong with Quorn (except Quorn bacon)
I doubt that David Attenbough is a charlatan.
I doubt that David Attenbough is a charlatan.
Now we find out……..Some of us have known this “forever”. Stop listening to the BBC “Expert” – he is a charlatan and has been challenged several times on this and other subjects. Amazingly he has gained not just one, but two knighthQoods from his lies (Some believed by the “highest family in the land”)
PS What’s wrong with Quorn (except Quorn bacon)
Guess I’m a knuckle dragger. I’m really not super interested in the welfare of insects. I’m not running around stepping on spiders or anything, but I just can’t get emotionally invested in the colonial exploitation of insects.
PS. Please stop with the nonsense about coral reefs. For 30 years we’ve been lectured about the Great Barrier Reef on its deathbed. Now we find out it has the greatest coral cover since monitoring started in the ‘80s. No one wants to tell us the good news though. A recent survey found only 3% of Australians even knows this.
I for one am delighted to see this latest division in the ranks of the elite scolds: on the one side those who want both animals and human beings to be fed bugs for the sake of the planet, and on the other the bold pioneers of the bugs’ rights movement.
Funny!
Funny!
I for one am delighted to see this latest division in the ranks of the elite scolds: on the one side those who want both animals and human beings to be fed bugs for the sake of the planet, and on the other the bold pioneers of the bugs’ rights movement.
‘‘Deuteronomy 14King James Version
2 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
3 Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.
19 And every creeping thing that flieth is unclean unto you: they shall not be eaten.”
1. What’s classed as abominable? Insects? Liver? Dogs? Frogs? Pigs?
2. If you can’t eat anything that flies, am I not allowed pheasant? Or duck?
There are all sorts of weird food rules in the Bible based on beliefs about food safety from over 2000 years ago. Most of which are now irrelevant – e.g. we seem to be able to eat pork without problems.
I’m sure the Bible has its uses for some people. But probably not as a food safety manual these days.
Right on.
Right on.
1. What’s classed as abominable? Insects? Liver? Dogs? Frogs? Pigs?
2. If you can’t eat anything that flies, am I not allowed pheasant? Or duck?
There are all sorts of weird food rules in the Bible based on beliefs about food safety from over 2000 years ago. Most of which are now irrelevant – e.g. we seem to be able to eat pork without problems.
I’m sure the Bible has its uses for some people. But probably not as a food safety manual these days.
‘‘Deuteronomy 14King James Version
2 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
3 Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.
19 And every creeping thing that flieth is unclean unto you: they shall not be eaten.”
We will. They won’t.
We will. They won’t.
Schwab should be the first to be force fed on this.
Schwab should be the first to be force fed on this.
Our Lizard Masters command us to
‘Eat The Bugs’
They would – it is natural for them, well bugs and children, allegedly….
Our Lizard Masters command us to
‘Eat The Bugs’
They would – it is natural for them, well bugs and children, allegedly….
Not in this household. We are self sufficient for food (full on UK prepper). Insects need not apply – they are ultra processed, the very thing we have moved away from.
Not in this household. We are self sufficient for food (full on UK prepper). Insects need not apply – they are ultra processed, the very thing we have moved away from.
Get used to tucking into Big Mac and Flies. https://open.substack.com/pub/lowstatus/p/the-elites-want-to-feed-us-insects?utm_source=direct&r=evzeq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Bee Wellington anyone? Cockroach au vin perhaps? The possibilities are endless. And it will also put an end to the old joke that begins- ‘ Waiter, there is a fly in my soup.’
Yuk, Yuk!
Yuk, Yuk!
Bee Wellington anyone? Cockroach au vin perhaps? The possibilities are endless. And it will also put an end to the old joke that begins- ‘ Waiter, there is a fly in my soup.’
Get used to tucking into Big Mac and Flies. https://open.substack.com/pub/lowstatus/p/the-elites-want-to-feed-us-insects?utm_source=direct&r=evzeq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This is like something from a Monty Python sketch.
Most people intuitively don’t give two flying figs about the welfare of insects, and this intuition is not something which can simply be rationalised away by clever scientists, whichever arbitrary metric they decide to use – like calculus of insect pain, etc.
It’s embedded in the human experience, and probably an evolved instinct..
At the same time, most people intuitively don’t want to dine on bumblebee flesh
This is like something from a Monty Python sketch.
Most people intuitively don’t give two flying figs about the welfare of insects, and this intuition is not something which can simply be rationalised away by clever scientists, whichever arbitrary metric they decide to use – like calculus of insect pain, etc.
It’s embedded in the human experience, and probably an evolved instinct..
At the same time, most people intuitively don’t want to dine on bumblebee flesh
Here in rural northern Arizona, I can already find insect-based chips (crisps) at Kroger’s and insect-based hiking bars at Whole Foods. I have tried both and though I find them somewhat bland and pricey, I don’t understand the horror I’m hearing from food faddists who insist that The Gummint is about to force people to eat bugs, or that insects are more “processed,” their latest Bad Word.
To me it’s just another food choice, offered as one alternative in the vast array of comestibles offered at these market chains and all their competitors. Insects are a way of growing protein at a fraction of the environmental footprint of cattle, including requiring almost no water. In these parts, just that last bit is a huge advantage.
Here in rural northern Arizona, I can already find insect-based chips (crisps) at Kroger’s and insect-based hiking bars at Whole Foods. I have tried both and though I find them somewhat bland and pricey, I don’t understand the horror I’m hearing from food faddists who insist that The Gummint is about to force people to eat bugs, or that insects are more “processed,” their latest Bad Word.
To me it’s just another food choice, offered as one alternative in the vast array of comestibles offered at these market chains and all their competitors. Insects are a way of growing protein at a fraction of the environmental footprint of cattle, including requiring almost no water. In these parts, just that last bit is a huge advantage.
Nothing wrong with eating insects, I’ve had them in Asia and they were tasty enough
I don’t have a problem with this either, especially if it’s for animal feed. What I wouldn’t eat however is an ultra processed product made from derived protien.
I can’t imagine it’s any worse for you than half of the processed rubbish already on the supermarket shelves, especially in the States
I can’t imagine it’s any worse for you than half of the processed rubbish already on the supermarket shelves, especially in the States
I don’t have an issue with people eating bugs either. Don’t think it’s for me, but if that’s what someone wants, have at it.
Meaning “I don’t have a problem with the poor being forced to either eat this stuff or go hungry, but I will object strongly if people of my socio economic class are forced to eat them.” For shame Jim. If it’s not good enough for you, (and it isn’t), then it’s not good enough for anyone else either.
No one wants to eat this stuff. Klaus Scwabb want’s you to eat it; he doesn’t want to eat it himself. If anyone actually wanted to eat this rubbish, they already would be.
I don’t believe Jim said anything of the sort. If you don’t want to eat something then don’t eat it, if others are happy eating insects then they’re free to do so. Why would you want to restrict the choices of others simply because you don’t like something?
I don’t believe Jim said anything of the sort. If you don’t want to eat something then don’t eat it, if others are happy eating insects then they’re free to do so. Why would you want to restrict the choices of others simply because you don’t like something?
Meaning “I don’t have a problem with the poor being forced to either eat this stuff or go hungry, but I will object strongly if people of my socio economic class are forced to eat them.” For shame Jim. If it’s not good enough for you, (and it isn’t), then it’s not good enough for anyone else either.
No one wants to eat this stuff. Klaus Scwabb want’s you to eat it; he doesn’t want to eat it himself. If anyone actually wanted to eat this rubbish, they already would be.
I don’t have a problem with this either, especially if it’s for animal feed. What I wouldn’t eat however is an ultra processed product made from derived protien.
I don’t have an issue with people eating bugs either. Don’t think it’s for me, but if that’s what someone wants, have at it.
Nothing wrong with eating insects, I’ve had them in Asia and they were tasty enough
No insect has ever become extinct has it? Bees are threatened but there are many bugs, like the common housefly and mosquitoes, that I would happily live without.
No insect has ever become extinct has it? Bees are threatened but there are many bugs, like the common housefly and mosquitoes, that I would happily live without.
This is what happens to a society that hyperrationalizes everything dialectically. It’s just Experts imposing speculative feelings on everything and calling it “Science.” Make no mistake, this is not Empiricism or the Scientific Method. This is Alchemy.
This is what happens to a society that hyperrationalizes everything dialectically. It’s just Experts imposing speculative feelings on everything and calling it “Science.” Make no mistake, this is not Empiricism or the Scientific Method. This is Alchemy.