April 18, 2024 - 1:00pm
On Saturday, as raw video footage of the knife attack at the Westfield Bondi Junction mall in Sydney started to surface on social media, signs were present which could have suggested jihadi involvement: jihadi lone wolves have used knives before on multiple occasions in Western towns and cities, and jihadi terrorism seems to have made something of a comeback of late.
Tommy Robinson was adamant that it was “fucking JIHAD”. Julia Hartley-Brewer was similarly categorical. As was Paul Golding, co-leader of Britain First. By Sunday morning, however, the optics had shifted: it was not fucking jihad, after all. The New South Wales (NSW) police named the perpetrator as Joel Cauchi, a 40-year-old from Queensland. He was white and he wasn’t a Muslim (and he definitely wasn’t a person called Benjamin Cohen). But he was a male and it had transpired that of the six people he murdered, five were women.
Following these revelations a new narrative dropped: it was fucking misogyny. Cauchi, Josephine Bartosch wrote in these pages, was “a woman-hating maniac”. Jessica Taylor, writing in the Independent, similarly asked, “what is the ‘ideology’ that drives a man to brandish a long knife, run into a mall and murder as many women as he can? And why does nobody dare mention the ‘M’ word? No, not ‘murder’ – but ‘misogyny’.”
According to NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb, it was clear that Cauchi was targeting women; and of the 12 others who he non-fatally stabbed, most were female. “It’s obvious to me […] that the offender had focused on women and avoided the men,” Webb said.
But why? There are several possibilities. The first is that he did so because women offered the least resistance. Ironically, the one person Cauchi tried to attack who offered the most resistance was a female cop, but she was carrying a gun and shot him dead with it.
The second possibility is that Cauchi had a deep loathing of women because he wasn’t able to have sexual relationships with them, and that this loathing drove him to murder and terrify them as a form of revenge for their (in his mind) cruel indifference toward him. These kinds of attacks are rare, but they have happened before. Elliot Rodger, for example, went on a shooting rampage in Isla Vista, California, in 2014, killing six people before taking his own life.
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SubscribeIndeed. This story might just as easily have been summarised as ‘Disabled man shot dead by the government due to lack of available care’.
Better still, ‘Neurodiverse man … ‘.
Absolutely.
He was known to the police which likely means he should have been institutionalized prior to these attacks. Bring back asylums.
“Bring back asylums.”
What’s strange is that it is hard to find anyone opposed to this idea. The ‘mental health advocates’ who insist upon ‘community care’ (i.e., closing institutions and pushing the mentally ill back onto the streets) only seem to exist as policy advocates, not as actual neighbors, family members, colleagues of the mentally ill. Even the psychologists I know believe psychology is pretty much at a loss when it comes to serious mental illness.
In fairness, though, the question is rarely asked, what would be the conditions for involuntary committal to an asylum? We already have involuntary committal laws, but they have an extraordinarily high standard (something like ‘an immediate threat to self or others’) which would likely not be met in the case of the weird guy who mutters and occasionally yells, violates personal space, etc.
Places of safety. Clean beds. OK food. Kind nurses. A schedule. Light work,gardening or farming to do. Or the orchestra,some had musical bands. How is any of that bad? How is sleeping in a shop doorway and begging better?
Do those who need to be institutionalised for public safety’s sake have the insight to view asylums in this light?
You tell me.
If only psychiatric institutions were like that! Having worked as a monitor and human rights advocate at one I saw the abuse and corruption first hand. Instead of cleaning up these hospitals they discharged many patients into the streets under the guise of community care, which didn’t exist. The streets are no better than the fetid wards. Parents are caught in a terrible dilemma trying to get help for their endangered loved ones: dehumanizing confinement or dehumanizing homelessness.
““It’s obvious to me […] that the offender had focused on women and avoided the men,” Webb said. But why?”
Because she’s seen the full video perhaps?
“What is the evidence that Cauchi hated women, much less that he was an incel who had been inspired by the extreme misogyny of that group’s subculture? Thus far, there is none.”
Well, there’s this – “Mr Cauchi suggested the reason his son – who suffered from schizophrenia – may have targeted women was because “he wanted a girlfriend”. “He’s got no social skills and he was frustrated out of his brain,” he said.”
Which suggests his family were not entirely surprised at the suggestion he deliberately attacked women.
And I’m not sure why there should be evidence he visited incel forums yet – it would take time to establish that.
None of which is exactly proof, and maybe he was just having a psychotic episode with no motive, but the author does seem to ignore these pretty obvious points.
Thanks for pointing out some of the facts.
Aren’t “incel forums” for the militant kind?
Could Cauchi see other single males – the incels – as unwelcome competition?
Some Unherd writers, and many commenters, do this almost instinctively – almost as if they are rubbing their hands at being “proved right” or getting evidence for their pet dogma.
Another thing to remember is that even if he did feel antipathy towards women, this does not prove that such antipathy is widespread. Nor is it a manifestation of “misogyny”. It is an example of it. Not at all the same thing.
I’m a woman,well I am biologically female,and I’m old as well,and I’m very misogynistic. I admit it. Or rather I now recognize it. It’s a mistake or a deliberate Falsification to make misogyny out as a man on woman thing only. I loathe some women, particularly the ones who go on and on about how competent,capable and equal they are then want special concessions for menstruation,menopause,pre menopause,being pregnant,not being pregnant,being so sexy they get groped all the way down the High St,tell me where thus High St is,I’m going there. Those anti-misogyny females would prefer a bunch of blokes to hang out with to me I can tell you
The term “misogyny” has gone through enormous scope creep. I’ve just read a BBC article which describes British women being filmed on the street on a Friday or Saturday night as misogyny!
I can understand the women being unhappy. Given the way they dress and behave, a lot of comments, especially from other cultures, are not going to be positive. In many parts of the world dressing in that way, falling over drunk and showing your knickers, flashing at CCTV cameras, throwing up in the gutter while a friend holds your hair out of the way, is frowned on.
But we cannot simply define any criticism of any women as hate. We are surely allowed to have opinions and make judgements – and women do it pretty freely about men.
Some wish to keep the pot boiling. This article has a sense of balance about it.
Rather an improvement on Josephine Bartosch
On occasion, there is talk of a 48-hour rule or some similar time frame in which we avoid jumping to conclusions that confirm our individual biases. Seems that this case is a prime example of why that is not a bad idea.
One thing to keep in mind is that something like 60% of mall shoppers are female, so any attack, purely statistically, is going to be weighted towards female victims. Not saying this was entirely the case here, but it’s nonetheless something that should be considered before we draw any conclusions as to motive. Additionally, six, statistically speaking, is a small number; the difference between 83% of his victims being female and 66% of his victims being female is just one person, which could be down to pure chance. It may be that he preponderantly encountered female victims by happenstance.
Get with the narrative, man. You won’t get ahead in society speaking truths like that! 😀
I meant to say this in my post. It was just that at that place,day and time the people there would have been mostly female. He may well have known that and attacked them not for the sexual misogynistic reason but because he’d have known a bunch of lads would’ve soon laid him out.
On the subject of using a rampage as non-related evidence of your own obsession, I note the Aussie PM said the event was less disastrous than it could have been because of Australia’s gun laws. A bizarre comment in so many respects; 1) the family members of knifed people won’t be consoled 2) nobody hearing about the event would feel safer – in fact potentially less safe, since its remarkably easier to get knives than it ever was to get guns in aussie 3) the average number of people killed by guns in any random attack in aussie prior to port arthur massacre (35) was next to zero 4) if everyone in the mall carried guns, this killer would not have got far (that’s not an argument for easy gun laws, I just note the irony…)
So he wasn’t an “incel” after all! Ha ha. Stupid word. It’s short for Involuntary Celibate I believe. And that is a very patronising concept because,to my logic anyway,it bolsters up this idea,possibly started by Hollywood because it makes for good visual images,that everybody has to seek and find that other,The One and if they dont they are not only condemned to life long loneliness but also are proved to be less than human and not a VALID member of society or “the community”. Mary Perry (not her real name) with her eight kids by eight different dads none of whose names she knows,but they bought her a drink,is a more valid member of society than her old spinster neighbour. Thanks to the Sexual Revolution. I think he just felt an inchoate rage at the life around him that he knew he was not a part of,not just sex,all of it,and he wanted to inflict his pain on all those happy contented people. How have I come to.such an accurate analysis. You do not want to know. It even scares me!
Note: I do know that the “other half” idea goes way back to Aristotle but Hollywood ramped it up.
Article not researched properly?
1) Cauchi was homeless for months prior to this. Not a good start for intimate relationships.
2) His dad admitted that he didn’t have good social skills, and he was frustrated by not having a girlfriend.
3) “Dating” women may have been a string of first dates leading to polite declines at the end of the dates at best.
4) His escort ad shared in an article* would not have attracted many takers. He described himself as a good-looking, athletic guy, offering sensuous massages or “anything”: his photos and text showed an average looking, awkward, tense loser – at 39 years old!
5) His other ads via Meetup would have failed too (asking for someone to teach him Swedish at a beginner level, inviting people to have beginner surf sessions with him looking awkward, stiff, and intense on the photo).
* Source: Herald Sun articles in Australia.
The author is as quick to settle on “he did it because he was schizophrenic” as some are to assume incel ideology as the primary motivator. Thing is, schizophrenia is a bit of an umbrella term encompassing an array of affective, cognitive and behavioural abnormalities. This makes pinning the blame on schizophrenia almost as lazy as inferring an ideological motivator.
Even if we take a leap off of the DSM springboard of over confident classification and say ‘right there is a discrete, sufficiently delineated disorder called schizophrenia’ , as though we are talking about Measles, it’s still not really possible to say that one of the symptoms is mass murder. There are fairly robust data to suggest that a diagnosis of schizophrenia is a reliable a predictor of (usually non fatal) violence, but this relationship is mediated by comorbid substance abuse, and the actual incidence is very low (as you’d expect, we are dealing with small numbers here).
If we should keep an open mind regarding ideology then surely we should do regarding mental health status too.
Such strenuous efforts to deny that some men have a deep animosity toward women. What could prompt that? Perhaps a cover for their own vicarious identification with the perp? From NYC to the West coast there’s a veritable plague of of women being assaulted, punched in the face in broad daylight by men like Khari Covington, Skiboky Stora, NYC, Anthony Jones in Pasadena, Jean Carlos Zenzuelas, Mallik Miah and many, many others. Some might be mentally unstable, but those suffering from mental illness are often like sponges absorbing the animosities in their environment. Sometimes their perceived malfactors causing them grief are “the communists”, the FBI, Satan, women, whoever are the sanctioned objects of suspicion and hatred by their counterparts – they must be attacked. Even those men not mentally ill may share these unconscious biases, which they are loathe to admit, smugly considering themselves paragons of virtue unlike those contemptible females.
A tiny minority of men have a deep animosity towards women. Recently we had a mass baby killing in the U.K., because a tiny number of women presumably have a deep animosity towards children, or find them easy victims.
What is clear from your post is that you have a general animosity towards men, and are rationalising this through projection. You might want to talk to someone about these feelings.
If you think attractive, beautiful sexy woman get a lot of abuse and hatred from da men try being ugly,non sexual and socially inept,the hatred is off the scale,but it doesn’t count as misogyny because being an ugly woman somehow you don’t count. As a human being. If a man at the bus stop threatens to punch you in the face because you’re a monster the nice girl on the 101 line will tell you it’s not a Hate Crime because you’re not black,gay,or Muslim. Just make yourself a nice cup of tea.
Well, we see that the author here and his fellow-travellers’ agenda is that misogyny is just a delusion of self-referential, narcistic women. Listen girls it doesn’t exist. Men like George Soldini, Marc Lepine, Alek Minassian, George Hennard, Eliot Rogers, Derrick Todd Lee et al. and all those men in NYC punching out women are just figments of our feverish, paranoid imaginations? Oh dear, the father of Chauchi, who should know him better than these pundits shouldn’t be listened to either. Yes, he has schizophrenia, but people suffering from mental illness often absorb like litmus paper the the animosities of those around them: whether the malfactors be the Commies, the CIA, the Pope, Satan or women. No, no such thing as misogyny here. These fellows doth protest too much.