May 20, 2020 - 12:06pm

We spoke to Prof Neil Ferguson before his fall from grace, so it felt only fair to hear from the other Niall Ferguson — famous historian, writer, academic — who was one of the first to call the seriousness of the Covid-19 pandemic in the British press.

He joined us from his mountain cabin in Montana, and shared his thoughts on lockdown, the Asian century, Donald Trump’s re-election prospects and the dangers ahead for Boris Johnson. Hope you enjoy.