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David McKee
David McKee
1 year ago

You do wonder if Unherd contributors bother to read the submissions of other contributors. Just two days ago, Lily Lynch wrote a piece (https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-nato-seduced-the-european-left/) which answers Mr. Carl’s question.
Ms. Lynch argued that NATO has gone out of its way to make it all cuddly and friendly to lefties, and with some success. That’s why the ‘Stop the war’ movement in Britain is tiny, compared to the glory days of CND in the 1960s and 1980s.
The cost is that NATO can end up being portrayed as an aggressive, rather than a defensive military alliance (vide the attack on Serbia over Kosovo in 1999). That’s why Putin’s claim that his attack on Ukraine was a defensive war against the encroachment by an aggressive NATO has some shreds of justification.

Last edited 1 year ago by David McKee
Noah Carl
Noah Carl
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Thanks, I actually wasn’t aware of that – looks like an important piece.

Alan Kaufman
Alan Kaufman
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Good point. But the problem is that many journalists do not read newspapers, let alone the publications that print their work. Journalism is not a profession. There are no barriers to entry and no common standards, so being well-informed, even within one’s own publication, is quite rare.

Paul T
Paul T
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Perhaps if someone posted it on Twitter journalists might read it…?

Noah Carl
Noah Carl
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Thanks, I actually wasn’t aware of that – looks like an important piece.

Alan Kaufman
Alan Kaufman
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Good point. But the problem is that many journalists do not read newspapers, let alone the publications that print their work. Journalism is not a profession. There are no barriers to entry and no common standards, so being well-informed, even within one’s own publication, is quite rare.

Paul T
Paul T
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Perhaps if someone posted it on Twitter journalists might read it…?

David McKee
David McKee
1 year ago

You do wonder if Unherd contributors bother to read the submissions of other contributors. Just two days ago, Lily Lynch wrote a piece (https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-nato-seduced-the-european-left/) which answers Mr. Carl’s question.
Ms. Lynch argued that NATO has gone out of its way to make it all cuddly and friendly to lefties, and with some success. That’s why the ‘Stop the war’ movement in Britain is tiny, compared to the glory days of CND in the 1960s and 1980s.
The cost is that NATO can end up being portrayed as an aggressive, rather than a defensive military alliance (vide the attack on Serbia over Kosovo in 1999). That’s why Putin’s claim that his attack on Ukraine was a defensive war against the encroachment by an aggressive NATO has some shreds of justification.

Last edited 1 year ago by David McKee
Alan Kaufman
Alan Kaufman
1 year ago

Why does such a literate publication as Unherd use words incorrectly? A “phobia” is a fear. “Homophobia” is a fear of homosexuals. There is no evidence here of anyone fearing homosexuals. Indeed, such a fear is rare.
That a wrong word is used frequently does not make use of the word right.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  Alan Kaufman

Hay – I got one great word from Unherd, and that is unusual for me, to get a new one – and it fits here, in regard to NATO

Verschlimmbesserung, haha

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  Alan Kaufman

Hay – I got one great word from Unherd, and that is unusual for me, to get a new one – and it fits here, in regard to NATO

Verschlimmbesserung, haha

Alan Kaufman
Alan Kaufman
1 year ago

Why does such a literate publication as Unherd use words incorrectly? A “phobia” is a fear. “Homophobia” is a fear of homosexuals. There is no evidence here of anyone fearing homosexuals. Indeed, such a fear is rare.
That a wrong word is used frequently does not make use of the word right.

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago

He’s taken “time out of his busy schedule ” to attend the Bilderberg meeting too.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/05/18/read-list-of-attendees-of-shadowy-bilderberg-meeting-this-week/

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago

He’s taken “time out of his busy schedule ” to attend the Bilderberg meeting too.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/05/18/read-list-of-attendees-of-shadowy-bilderberg-meeting-this-week/

D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago

NATO = Globohomo army

Crush them Vlad, Deus Vult

D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago

NATO = Globohomo army

Crush them Vlad, Deus Vult

chris Barton
chris Barton
1 year ago

This Cold war relic really does need to be put into the dustbin of history like the Warsaw pact.

chris Barton
chris Barton
1 year ago

This Cold war relic really does need to be put into the dustbin of history like the Warsaw pact.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

” Hello, Sailor”?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

” Hello, Sailor”?

david lee ballard
david lee ballard
11 months ago

While the movement to end government persecution of people with same-sex attraction and sexual expression was once rooted in an actual liberation philosophy, what has morphed into “LGBTQ+++, Inc” is now nothing more than Western cultural imperialist consumerism masquerading as ethical charity. In its current manifestation it SHOULD be resisted.

david lee ballard
david lee ballard
11 months ago

While the movement to end government persecution of people with same-sex attraction and sexual expression was once rooted in an actual liberation philosophy, what has morphed into “LGBTQ+++, Inc” is now nothing more than Western cultural imperialist consumerism masquerading as ethical charity. In its current manifestation it SHOULD be resisted.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Good news for The Household Cavalry and the Diesel Dykes!!!!

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Good news for The Household Cavalry and the Diesel Dykes!!!!

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago

F* ck NATO!

F-Them

USA come home and let this sick dog make its final trip to the vet….

Again I could not read this obscene mess – but the Biden Military and the European Military are 100% Depraved Monsters – call it done, it has NO Good to offer the world. It is just a Military Industrial money pit – and now a sick Kid-F* ck er too – as Salty Cracker would say…

But I know that anyway – when I saw the horrors of the Evil Proxy War it engineered in Ukraine.

F-NATO, it is beyond saving SNAFU, FUBAR, bring the boys home.

Andy Aitch
Andy Aitch
1 year ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Here’s a thought for the moderators:
If you are reluctant to ban people from posting, how about a ‘red button’ (or similar) which people could press to get rid of the silly stuff?
Most topics are thoughtfully commented – even when disagreeing – and we regular users are offended when just plain silliness intrudes. It seems to be on the increase…

Andy Aitch
Andy Aitch
1 year ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Here’s a thought for the moderators:
If you are reluctant to ban people from posting, how about a ‘red button’ (or similar) which people could press to get rid of the silly stuff?
Most topics are thoughtfully commented – even when disagreeing – and we regular users are offended when just plain silliness intrudes. It seems to be on the increase…

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago

F* ck NATO!

F-Them

USA come home and let this sick dog make its final trip to the vet….

Again I could not read this obscene mess – but the Biden Military and the European Military are 100% Depraved Monsters – call it done, it has NO Good to offer the world. It is just a Military Industrial money pit – and now a sick Kid-F* ck er too – as Salty Cracker would say…

But I know that anyway – when I saw the horrors of the Evil Proxy War it engineered in Ukraine.

F-NATO, it is beyond saving SNAFU, FUBAR, bring the boys home.