Does leaded petrol cause crime? And did the ban on leaded petrol lead to the huge reduction in crime levels in the US and elsewhere over the last few decades?
It’s become a sort of received wisdom that it has. I first read about it in 2016 in Mother Jones. In the late 1990s, crime dropped hugely in New York City; Rudy Giuliani and his “broken windows” tough guy policing took the credit, but that didn’t explain why it dropped around the country, rather than just New York.
But the rise and decline in crime very neatly followed a pattern — it rose and fell in much the same way as the amount of lead burnt in American car engines had risen and fallen, 23 years earlier.
The hypothesis was simple. Lead interferes with brain development, children with underdeveloped frontal lobes grow up to lack impulse control and the ability to succeed in modern society, and those children become violent, criminal adults.
I really liked this hypothesis. It fitted the data (as I understood it) and I liked that it suggested societal problems could have a realistic solution, rather than the “remake society so it’s better” solutions that most societal problems require.
Sadly, a new meta-analysis suggests that the link between lead and crime is overstated. It doesn’t say it disappears altogether, although it may have done; but it looks a lot smaller than it did.
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SubscribeCome on Mr Chivers, let’s see your funnel plot for “Do masks offer protection from airborne viruses”
You can get cancelled merely for suggesting that. Though the fact that thousands of medical staff in full PPE have contracted the virus, does indicate that a flimsy surgical mask probably makes little difference to an airborne nano virus.
I believe the phrase is ‘as much use as a chain link fence to stop a mosquito”
My bet is that in about 6-9 months time the science on masks will flip. Right about the time the USA finishes its vaccine program
Am I allowed to say that an article which shows that CO2 does not cause warming would be interesting.
Or is that also a hate crime?
Mind you now that Trump is no longer President, I can now post on Facebook that maybe the virus comes from China!
An article showing CO2 does not cause warming might be interesting, but it’d have to refute many years of extremely well established and uncontested science to be convincing. The Irish physicist John Tyndall showed, more than 150 years ago, that CO2 can indeed cause warming, a finding that remains, to my knowledge, unchallenged among scientists, including those sceptical about ACD.* (He further suggested this accounts for the earth’s temperature being higher than would otherwise be expected, and that our CO2 emissions would lead to further warming.) The following is not far off his original experimental setup:
How can I see for myself that CO2 absorbs heat?
As an experiment that can be done in the home or the classroom, Smerdon recommends filling one soda bottle with CO2 (perhaps from a soda machine) and filling a second bottle with ambient air. “If you expose them both to a heat lamp, the CO2 bottle will warm up much more than the bottle with just ambient air,” he says. (How Exactly Does Carbon Dioxide Cause Global Warming? – Columbia University)
*He may not have been the first to do so, though he often gets the credit. US scientist Eunice Foote appears to have beaten him to it, using a very similar approach. She also predicted our CO2 emissions would lead to planetary warming.
The science is uncontested because you get cancelled if you contest it. Also remember that according to Greta the science is done – no more questions to be asked. Finally don’t ever forget “since records began” which translates to “lets ignore most of history and only look at this little bit which seems to prove our hypothesis”
Or vaccine antibodies are “better” than naturally produced ones …
‘Sadly, a new meta-analysis suggests that the link between lead and crime is overstated.’
Well I could have told you that from the start and rarely have I heard such an absurd hypothesis, even from sociologists and their ilk. These people will seek any excuse, literally any excuse, to explain away or justify criminality.
That aside, this article seems to openly admit that studies whicn don’t align with the researchers’ narratives are not published. And they wonder why we have lost all faith in scientists, sociologists, criminologists and all the rest of them. Defund them all.
Come on Fraser, I rarely defend Tom Chivers, but he is just using sarcasm to prove the point that negative results are not published. Having said that we all knew this from a long time ago. Prof. Ioannidis has excellent articles on it, despite Tom not liking what Ioannidis has to say …
And defunding all scientists, as Fraser suggests, might have far worse consequences than a rather fringe idea which, so far as I know, had no effect on policy or anything else.
Why is it absurd? Are you claiming lead does not cause heavy metal poisoning that leads to erratic and violent behaviour? Because I believe there’s quite a lot of evidence for that.
I’m actually not totally convinced by the approach this meta analysis takes but would need to read it carefully first. I’m not sure the assumption of symmetry around the average effect size should always hold like that. But maybe it does in this case.
It’s absurd because there is no data that quantifies the effect of lead poisoning compared to having, for instance, scum for parents; an appalling education at the hands of left-wing teachers; a mainstream party ever ready to assert that your criminality is someone else’s fault; freely available abortion, so fewer criminals are born; and so on.
“‘Sadly, a new meta-analysis suggests that the link between lead and crime is overstated.’”
Haha, so what about all those Chicago shootings? Really Chivers, no link between Lead and crime?
Some ideas are so stupid you have to be “educated” into believing that they are even possible.
Leaded petrol does cause crime if you try to syphon it off from someone else’s car
But is this one of them? Whilst some things proposed by scientists are “obviously” wrong, at least to people of particular backgrounds, I don’t understand why this is one of them. Lead poisoning has been known to be a problem since ancient times, and the data did seem to fit extremely well, even down to the level of very specific regions of US states if I recall correctly. If this theory is actually wrong then it would be the unintuitive result here, because filling the air and surfaces with lead probably *should* cause low level poisoning, and lead poisoning does make people violent.
The ready availability of abortion fits the data just as well. A lot of future criminals have been aborted by what would have been their unfit mothers.
Yes indeed. 100% abortion rates would solve all crime problems
Does it really fit just as well as the leaded petrol theory? Remember that (the proponents of this theory claim) the data here fits extraordinarily well, with the fall in violent crime following near-exactly the elimination of leaded petrol by the same amount of years everywhere. Because leaded petrol was phased out at different times in different places, it’s easy to control for this factor, and the analysis suggests a very strong correlation indeed.
Now, has abortion contributed? Maybe/probably but I’d want to see analysis as rigorous as what I saw for leaded petrol before believing it’s the primary factor.
In the c18th, c19th, and first part of the c20th, most drinking water passed through lead pipes. How does that fit with the leaded petrol theory?
Those were very violent times compared to the modern era so, it’s ok?
Another historical precedent: the Romans liked to sweeten their wine with lead, especially the upper classes. And the history books are filled with stories of incredibly violent and apparently mad emperors.
I happen to know for certain that lead in petrol caused both the French and Russian revolutions.
Nay-sayers, of course, point out that I don’t have any evidence for that. One or two have even pointed out the apparent anomaly of there being no such thing as petrol in 1789, but I say to those people that they need to check their thinking for unconscious bias.
Sometimes I think they haven’t heard that what you believe is true – the truth you live by, and that if anyone tells you it isn’t, it is pure fascism.
Did Napolean accidently fill his tank with unleaded in 1815?
In my lived experience, yes he did.
Thank you for explaining the funnel plot and its implications. I learned a lot about what was only a vague and very unarticulate intuition of mine at best.
I hate graphs with inadequately labelled axes. The article leaves me dubious and appears an advertisement for his book.
I also found the article extremely vague about what exactly a funnel plot is. The placing of the second graph after “A funnel plot, though, can let you see that. If you look at your funnel plot …” suggests it is one, but it’s unclear what makes it one if it is. The previous graph also plotted sample size against effect size; is including unpublished studies the defining feature of a funnel plot? Or are both graphs funnel plots, with the second including data excluded from the first? I’m left guessing.
Neither include unpublished papers. You can’t put data points that don’t exist. The idea is that if people are publishing all their papers then the plot will resemble a funnel shape. If they aren’t and there’s publication bias it’ll be lop sided, and no longer funnel shaped. The name is thus quite unfortunate because due to large scale publication bias in science, “funnel plots” are normally not funnel shaped.
Cause and effect is going to be very hard to find in something as multi faceted as “crime”. For starters we have to definevwhat crime is. Then there are the various cultures and sub cultures involved, population age profiles, the impact of media/TV violence, access to drugs, other types of employment aside from crime … the list goes on and on. How can any study control for the long list of variables and associated biases.
The idea that lead was a major contributing factor always seemed far fetched… particularly as there was very little clinical or physical evidence to support it. Could it be a minor factor… maybe…. along with heaps of other minor ones.
These studies only look at violent crime specifically, for which the definitions are fairly stable (most obviously the definition of murder doesn’t really change with time).
“(most obviously the definition of murder doesn’t really change with time)”
REALLY? Chavin in no way committed murder, but was given the sentence. OJ was a murder but was found to not be.
Murder is a political concept in today’s Liberal/Lefty Nirvana. Like ‘Thought Crime in Twitter and Facebook, and Political Crime like Trump is being attacked for (and his 2 impeachments, 100% political)
I agree Chauvin seems like an aberration and a very troubling case of miscarriage of justice. It’s notable exactly because it’s rare, and we’re discussing long term statistics here.
One of the explanations for the drop in crime rates in the 90s was the introduction and use of the pill 20 years before: the theory was that a lot of lower-class, probably fatherless males weren’t born and so didn’t become criminals.
In remote parts of Australia we have Opal fuel which has resulted in fewer cases of brain damage from petrol sniffing.
Drop in crime more likely to be due to the gradual introduction of legalised abortion 20-25 years prior to the crime stats i.e. a reduction in the number of unwanted pregnancies which very often lead to unwanted & troubled children/adults who are more likely to commit crime.
I think I had seen this idea somewhere before, but true or not – and it always seemed rather fringe, flimsily based and far-fetched – the evidence that lead is dangerous is very convincing, and the evidence that much lead to which we are exposed comes from leaded petrol quite substantial. Experiments by Clair Cameron Patterson in the 1940s to establish the age of the earth were confounded by atmospheric lead pollution, leading him to a decades-long legal battle with the Ethyl Corporation which produced tetraethyl lead, the form in which it was added to petrol.
Though lead could have been a contributory factor I think it’s more likely to be due to food contamination/processing since the 70’s which mimics oestrogen and lowers testoterone levels. Reduced ability to reproduce and lowered crime levels with a large side of reduced life expectancy to reduce pension payouts – maybe there’s a plan?
If indeed it is true that crime has fallen in the last x number of years, and at the same time global warming has accelerated, then maybe it is true that global warming has reduced crime. Or maybe, the reduction in crime has caused global warming..
Makes sense after all; your feckless criminals rendered bone-idle by the heat, and of course, the data to match. Can’t argue with the correlation.
I look forward to a warm, crime free future.
The rise in crime rates perfectly follows the rates of boys being raised without fathers in their lives.
It probably also follows the change in orbit of some planet or other.
Reminds me of the saying “Correlation is not causation”
Mm. Does that mean that the more popular a topic is the more likely there is to be a consensus and hence the more likely is that consensus to be wrong? That ought to be ‘Somebody’s Paradox’. What’s the reference?
The cause of crime is that some people really, really, really desire other peoples things and take them, lots of money without working for it and all the things it can buy, so steal or swindle or cheat it or kill for it. Unrestrained desire has a lot to answer for.
Guess what….the answer is no.. “Stupid people live near roads, babies suck lead painted toys etc.”
In a classic case of Jungian Synchronicity this is all about lead, from every side.
This form of GRAPHING USED TO BE CALLED A SHOTGUN BLAST GRAPH AS THE SPOTS RESEMBLE THE PATTERN FROM A SHOTGUN ROUND. (caps in error) and is a lead pellet analogy to describe some vague lead harm. Even though the most notable lead harm comes from the end of a gun, and is very often associated with crime.