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Jordan Peterson wrestles with meaning The self-help guru has taken a postmodern turn

'A manosphere-vaccine.' Carlos Osorio/Toronto Star/Getty Images

'A manosphere-vaccine.' Carlos Osorio/Toronto Star/Getty Images


November 19, 2024   5 mins

Like every conservative intellectual, Jordan Peterson once was a man of the Left. Left-wingers were hard to come by in Seventies Alberta; Peterson grew up in what was in effect a one-party state. When he was a teenager, all but five of the representatives in the Canadian province’s Legislative Assembly were members of the Progressive Conservative Party, and of those five, four belonged to the Right-wing, crankish Social Credit Party.

The sole Left-wing voice belonged to Grant Notley, whose wife, Sandra, was the librarian at Peterson’s school, and whose daughter, Rachel, went on to be Alberta’s premier. Peterson worked for Grant and, aged only 14, came within 13 votes of being elected to the executive of his New Democratic Party. But it was Sandra who had the greatest impact on him, by introducing him to the works of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Ayn Rand, and George Orwell.

Conservative intellectuals are expected to have a narrative of their Damascene conversion, and Peterson’s came from Orwell’s The Road to Wigan Pier. That book, he says, convinced him that socialists are, as a rule, petty and resentful people, and that the whole ideology had therefore to be rejected. No matter that Orwell had explicitly cautioned his readers against exactly this fallacy: “To recoil from socialism because so many socialists are inferior people is as absurd as refusing to travel by train because you dislike the ticket-collector’s face.” For Peterson politics is a matter of character; and he conducts his war against petty and resentful socialism by trying to inculcate good character traits in his audience.

Peterson became the world’s most influential public intellectual by supplying anxious audiences with concrete answers. 12 Rules for Life, his 2018 bestseller, addresses all the usual self-help questions: how to succeed at work, how to find love, how to establish order in a chaotic and disconcerting world. The Peterson of 2018 seemed the right kind of person to provide the answers; he looked and sounded like a man who had his affairs in order. He was adept at playing the stern father figure: “Young people are mostly worthless because they don’t know anything.” The answers themselves were straightforward, practical, and have likely helped many thousands of people. Make friends with people who want the best for you. Clean up your room. Stand up straight with your shoulders back, bucko!

Now, however, Peterson prefers to ask questions. The distance of 12 Rules for Life from his latest book, We Who Wrestle with God, reflects a shift in Peterson’s public persona. It is a shift from no-nonsense instruction to high-falutin abstraction. It is a shift typified, even, in his manner of dress: the difference between a sleek, business-like suit and a gauche, flamboyant one.

We Who Wrestle with God is a kind of homiliary, a selection of moral teachings based upon Peterson’s reading of the Bible. Chapters start and end with rhetorical questions. He recounts various Biblical stories before following them up with his favourite rhetorical question of all: “What does it mean?” Abraham apparently employs “the longest-term and most comprehensive [mating] strategies possible” — “What does all this mean?” His wife miraculously conceives when she is 90 years old — “What does this mean?”

When Peterson, on occasion, decides to answer his own questions, the reader tends to be left unsatisfied. At the beginning of Genesis, God is “moving upon the face of the waters”: what does it mean? “It means that God is mobile, obviously”, Peterson tells us, before digging deeper; “less obviously, moving is what we say when we have been struck by something deep”. Clever wordplay in English, but I don’t think it works in the Biblical Hebrew.

Peterson was accused of all manner of things when he first shot to fame: he was a “charlatan”, a “dangerous” one at that, teetering on the edges of “fascist mysticism”. But nobody back then accused him of inarticulacy. In one of his most memorable performances, with 49 million views on YouTube, he ran rings around Cathy Newman, who kept trying to pin him down with feeble gotchas (“so, what you’re saying is…”). His voice was clipped and authoritative, always adhering to one of his own 12 Rules: Be precise in your speech.

Perhaps he has now taken that precept too far. His interlocutors — Richard Dawkins, most recently — appear to find it almost impossible to sustain a conversation with him, because he’s so obsessed with defining and redefining terms, often in idiosyncratic ways (“well, that depends what X means…” has become a meme in its own right). He is, as Dawkins says, “drunk on symbols”. He indulges in those off-putting aspects of academic study that public intellectuals are supposed to eschew.

The hostility towards Peterson at the apex of his fame was always excessive. Was he not exactly what high-status liberals said they longed for? — a male role-model espousing personal responsibility, so comfortable with his emotions that he’s crying all the time. He was cast, unfairly, as a gateway drug to the manosphere. In fact, he was a manosphere-vaccine: the type of angry young man who might otherwise be attracted to the Andrew Tates of the world is precisely the type of person who most needs to be told to clean up his room and stand up straight with his shoulders back.

Yet Peterson increasingly seems to be approaching the old, uncharitable portrayal of his critics. Once he was distinguished by his calm stoicism, but now he is angry: “Up yours, woke moralists; we’ll see who cancels who!” All this naturally calls his self-help credentials into question. Should young men really be taking life advice from someone who eats only meat, salt, and water?

“Peterson seems to be approaching the old, uncharitable portrayal of his critics.”

As Peterson the self-help guru recedes from the stage, Peterson the Biblical exegete takes his place. Yet while the self-help guru’s message worked, whatever its faults, most of the arguments of We Who Wrestle with God are dubious at best. Peterson likes to elucidate the Jungian archetypes at play in Biblical narratives by drawing analogies between them and modern pop culture. But that doesn’t work when there is a clear and discernible line of influence, as there so often is. When Superman, like Moses, exhibits the “mythological trope” of the “hero with dual ancestry”, does this really point to something deep-rooted in the human psyche? Perhaps, but it’s a poor example: Superman’s Jewish creators consciously modelled him on the Moses story.

Likewise, are all villains stand-ins for the Cain of Genesis? Sometimes it’s plausible: Scar in the Lion King, who kills his own brother, might be “as close an analogue to Cain as could be conjured in the modern imagination”. But for all Peterson’s insistences, there is nothing particularly Cain-like about Sauron or Voldemort. Nor, for that matter, are real-life supervillains: Karl Marx, says Peterson, is “Cain to the core”, because he regarded the bourgeoisie “in consequence of their success as only parasites, predators, and thieves”. We are left again with Peterson’s reading of The Road to Wigan Pier, his conception of socialism as nothing but resentment. Yet Marx, as all novices know, wrote with admiration for the bourgeoisie, which “during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together”.

Marxism — the sin of Cain — culminates, in Peterson’s telling, in the greatest evil of all: “postmodernism”. But in his distrust of “ideology”, his deconstruction of every word, his slipperiness on the question of whether Biblical stories are true (“well, that depends what you mean by ‘truth’”), there is something unmistakably postmodern about Peterson. The problem with postmodernism is that it asks questions but offers no answers. Well, I like my books to offer answers; and there might be more intellectual value in one “clean up your room, bucko” than in a thousand echoes of “what does it mean?”.


Samuel Rubinstein is a History student at Trinity College, Cambridge.
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T Bone
T Bone
7 hours ago

Most “Holistic” intellectuals go through stages of learning. You have to accurately grasp a wide variety of cultural, scientific and even linguistic variables to get to something that approximates an accurate representation of the concept you’re describing.

Peterson has consistently been saying that the Anthropological understanding of world history is fundamentally flawed. You can not deduce history or understand the world through a constellation of facts because there’s simply too many facts. He credits the Postmodernists for one thing; recognizing that cultural knowledge is passed down through Narratives.

He’s studying whether and what narratives approximate axiomatic truth in functional terms. He might seem loopy because he veers into the unknown but in many ways he’s just a Utilitarian like Bentham or JS Mill. He’s interested in maximizing good and minimizing bad. That Dawkins dismisses him is to be expected because Dawkins is a strict materialist. His mind is already closed to anything outside the Material realm.

I would say it’s a testament to Peterson that he can even get Dawkins to sit for an interview. He wants to hear from everyone to get maximum diversity of viewpoint. Many academics will always disdain Peterson especially if they find Materialist Socialism to be a plausible reality in perfect conditions. But he’s not wrong about Materialist Socialism. It will always be a Manichean ideology of resentment towards one group of people. It always will blame one group of people for all socoety’s problems in order to remove personal responsibility from the individual. It’s inescapable.

Brett H
Brett H
6 hours ago

I guess the truth about this book will be in the reading itself. Rubinstein has taken a position about Peterson and his book then selected passages to support his position. There’s nothing wrong in that, but a few selected quotes may not actually represent the substance of the book itself.

Arthur G
Arthur G
6 hours ago

To my eye, Jordan Peterson is legitimately searching for the truth. That’s what sends him off into questioning spirals. He honestly doesn’t know the answer to the questions he’s asking, but he’s determined to find out. My reading is he is on the road to a Christian conversion, as his wife has already done. He’s not there yet, and that causes some of the wheel-spinning as well.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
3 hours ago

Isn’t it perfectly obvious to anyone with a claim to a brain that all this – all of it – is just sheer pseudo-intellectualism of the most egregious kind?

Which thinking human being would fall at the feet of someone like Peterson; someone whose road in life originated from reading The Road to Wigan Pier? It’s laughable! Wigan and it’s eponymous “pier” is in my neck of the woods, and it’s a useful tale of it’s time by Orwell but bears no relation to reality on the ground. And that’s exactly what Peterson Isn’t – grounded.

This latest attention-seeking tome of his should be treated with the contempt it deserves. He, and other pseudo-intellectuals make a very good living out of the gullibility of a great many people who purport to offer ‘solutions’ instead of doing the work of thinking for themselves.

PS: omg, i’ve just read the comment by CS – i actually agree with him!

Last edited 3 hours ago by Lancashire Lad
Brett H
Brett H
2 hours ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Too late. Your fate is fixed.

Christopher Barclay
Christopher Barclay
2 hours ago

Strange, no mention of ‘Maps of Meaning’, the masterpiece Peterson wrote before he became famous. He is returning to what interested him before he became embroiled in the culture wars: how humans create meaning in their lives.

Josef Švejk
Josef Švejk
1 hour ago

My respect for Peterson’s intellect went west when he became addicted to valium, blamed the Western medical system for his illnesses real or imagined, followed the advice of his strange daughter and sought relief in Russia of all places. He really displayed an anti intellectualism of the bucko Trumpian type of which he is the Canadian pseudo-intellectual Abel. What a kerfuffle and yet he still earns millions from podcasts and books pandering to, well, Canadians or people like Canadians. I’ve never trusted them. Peterson least of all. Canadians are deranged, on the one hand Woke and the other Presbyterian.

Archibald Tennyson
Archibald Tennyson
1 hour ago

Having ventured into new waters, JP is now completely out of his depth.

His neo-Jungian approach to Christianity, delivered with much less flair and erudition than Jung did in his day, satisfies neither the atheist materialist nor the Christian faithful.

You can’t approach the Bible as stories, myths, or symbols, even if those are all key features of the text. You have to approach it in the fullness of tradition, with the wisdom of the Church Fathers in your sails.

This is why an Orthodox Christian like Pageau trounces Peterson in exegesis, while Dawkins looks sober by comparison.

JP is smart, he’s helped a lot of people, but he’s just a man. He needs the Church.

Milton Gibbon
Milton Gibbon
23 minutes ago

I don’t think the authir has actually read any of Peterson’s work. “Wigan Pier” was written in 1937, when a socialist like Orwell could just about close his ears to the atrocities of international or national socialism unaware of what was about to take place. This is an attempt at “gotcha” which falls the flattest.

Person reads the Bible and wonders “What does it mean?”. Shocker. Why disparage intellectual curiosity as some sort of childish game? Dawkins is far less coherent – the God Delusion being thrown under the bus by many of his more recent statements. It’s a shame his devotees are clinging on to their holy writ. The author goes on to say that Peterson uses language that is too academic – he is an academic after all – but then describes him as a self help guru. One is too vulgar the other too high falutin. He does both and everywhere in between. Surely a mark of some sort of intellect.

Using Marx as some sort of proponent of the bourgeousie is ridiculous. He saw the productive forces they unleashed as exploitation which needed eliminating.

I agree that his obsession with Disney is beneath him but how do you reach the masses who actually do prefer Disney’s Snow White and the Lion King to the original fairy tale or Beowulf.