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Zelensky’s Trump meeting reveals futility of ‘victory plan’

The Ukrainian leader may be preparing for a compromise. Credit: Getty

September 28, 2024 - 8:00am

President Volodymyr Zelensky’s meeting with former President Trump, though it led to nothing concrete, was a sensible move by both sides. In Zelensky’s case, it was an acknowledgement of the obvious fact that Trump may win in November, and it will then be desperately important for Zelensky to have some kind of working relationship with him. For Trump, the meeting was meant to protect him against allegations of being an ally of Putin, and also acknowledged the simple truth that if he is elected and wishes to promote an end to the war in Ukraine, he will have to deal with Zelensky.

As to Zelensky’s “Victory Plan”, there is no chance whatsoever of this succeeding. Ukraine cannot possibly drive Russia out of all — or most likely any — of the territory Russia has taken since 2014. On the contrary, it is now the Ukrainian army that is slowly retreating in the Donbas. The real question is whether Zelensky and the Ukrainian government now themselves believe in this plan, and if not, why they are still pushing it.

In off-the-record remarks, officials of the Biden administration have expressed deep scepticism about the Ukrainian plan. President Biden has somewhat increased existing US military aid to Ukraine, but he has refused to allow (British-provided but US-guided) Storm Shadow missiles to be fired deep into Russia, for fear of drastic Russian retaliation, especially in the Middle East. And even if the Storm Shadows had been given the green light, this would not have led to Ukrainian “victory”, though it would probably have helped slow down the Russian advance. Nor is there any chance that Ukraine will receive a definite and guaranteed timetable for Nato membership (which Hungary, Turkey, Slovakia — and perhaps in future Germany and France) will in any case veto.

It is in fact now becoming increasingly accepted in private by Western officials  that the war (or perhaps only the fighting) will end roughly on the basis established in the Istanbul negotiations in the first weeks of the war, and recently sketched by Trump’s vice presidential candidate, Senator J.D. Vance: there will be a ceasefire along wherever the front line eventually runs; the issue of sovereignty over the four provinces Russia claims to have annexed will be deferred for (endless) future negotiation, as in the case of Cyprus; in the meantime, both sides will promise not to change the ceasefire line by force; and Ukraine will sign a treaty of neutrality, accompanied by some form of international guarantees for its security and territorial integrity.

There are increasing signs of a recognition in Kyiv that this is the best that Ukraine is likely to get, and that if the war continues, it may end up with a great deal less. A Ukrainian businessman told me that “in private, everyone now knows that we will not get the lost territories back.” The feeling is growing that Ukraine should let the occupied territories go (though without ever legally conceding this) so that Ukraine can rebuild its economy and move towards membership of the European Union. The Ukrainian government could then declare a peace along existing lines to be not a defeat but a qualified victory, that saves 80% of Ukraine and secures its European future. According to opinion polls, the Ukrainian public is also shifting in this direction, though slowly.

This shift in opinion is due largely to grim news from the front line, the failure of the incursion into Kursk to divert Russian forces from the Donbas, and the prospect of a winter of power cuts due to Russian destruction of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.

It also stems from developments in Western Europe (and to a lesser extent the US), where state welfare and health budgets are under intense pressure, and public opinion is shifting in favour of an early peace. This is most apparent in Germany, the lynchpin of European support for Ukraine, where the anti-war Alternative fuer Deutchland (afD) and the new Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance (BSW) made huge gains in eastern German state elections this month.

It has been suggested, therefore, that Zelensky never expected his “Victory Plan” to be accepted, and that it is actually a preparation for Ukrainian acceptance of a compromise peace. He will say to the Ukrainian people that he did his utmost to gain Western help for victory, but he was betrayed by Ukraine’s Western allies, and therefore has no choice but to make peace.

If Trump wins, this moment may perhaps come quite quickly — though it is unwise to make any firm predictions about Trump, given what we know of his character. Under Harris, it could take considerably longer. As part of her campaign strategy against Trump, she is digging herself deeper and deeper into support for Ukrainian “victory” in her public statements, and will therefore find it correspondingly harder to change course.

The question is whether Ukraine can go on falling back very slowly, while inflicting heavy casualties on the Russians (but also suffering heavy casualties in its own much smaller army); or whether at some point the bloody stalemate will break and the Ukrainian front will collapse, as the Italians did in October 1917, the Germans did in August 1918, and the British and French nearly did in March 1918. This question cannot be answered, but it must be raised — and with it, the question of whether the search for a peace settlement may be even more urgent than now appears.


Anatol Lieven is a former war correspondent and Director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft in Washington DC.

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Brett H
Brett H
3 hours ago

As part of her campaign strategy against Trump, she is digging herself deeper and deeper into support for Ukrainian “victory” in her public statements, and will therefore find it correspondingly harder to change course.
No, she won’t find it hard at all. And all sides will talk about “victory”, except the dead who will be spoken of as heroes.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Brett H
Steven Carr
Steven Carr
1 hour ago

There is a chance that Ukraine could end up as the second biggest country in Europe.
Russian will never agree to the front lines being frozen if Ukrainian soldiers are in Kursk.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Steven Carr
Jürg Gassmann
Jürg Gassmann
1 hour ago
Reply to  Steven Carr

Agreed – that does not seem likely.
To some extent also, the Russians have laid an egg for themselves with their move in September 2022 to accept the entirety of the four oblasts into the Russian Federation, in their old administrative boundaries. A freeze of the front lines would leave significant parts of what is in Russian legal eyes Russia under Ukrainian control. I wonder how politically acceptable that would be.
Fortunately for Russia, Zelensky is persisting in his radical “no negotiations” stance, so Russia is under no diplomatic pressure to engage in negotiations.

Brian Doyle
Brian Doyle
59 minutes ago

Any of you in the West been told yet that yesterday 4 number Donated Swedish F 16 aircraft were destroyed on the ground by a Russian Hypersonic Missile ( plenty more of those in Russian stockpiles) a weapon that The USA
Patriot system is useless against
Also I ain’t gonna tell you
But go yourself and find out the numbers of still functional Challenger , Leopard , M1 Abraham
Tanks and Bradley APC ,s donated by the West that are fit for Purpose
Now for the bit that none of you are gonna like
A Golden rule of Warfare
No matter how many battles you lose , The last battle is always won
By the side who has the ability to not only replenish their losses but actually increase them both in Personal and Equipment
Apply to Ukraine then Apply to Russia
Who shall the winner be ?

j watson
j watson
3 hours ago

Was 6 months after Eisenhower took over the White House that the Korean Armistice was signed. Alot points to an uncanny similarity in timing and outcome in Ukraine. The big question is the degree of security guarantee offered. Putin cannot be trusted so it’ll be about what the West is prepared to guarantee and show it means it. The subsequent South Korean example shows what we can do.
Autocrats can never allow countries on their border to become successful democracies. It’s existential for them. So the idea an Armistice stops Putin seeking to undermine and threaten neighbours naive in the extreme. Xi, Kim Wrong-Un and the Ayatollah’s watching to see the West’s resolve too.