How long will European leaders prolong the war in Russia? Photo: Alexey Furman/Getty.

In a surprising reversal from the Oval Office standoff between Zelensky and Trump and the suspension of US military aid to Ukraine, Kyiv, late on Tuesday, announced its willingness to implement an immediate 30-day ceasefire — provided Moscow agrees to reciprocate. This followed initial talks between US and Ukrainian representatives in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, prompting Washington to swiftly resume military assistance to Ukraine. “The ball is now in Russia’s court,” US Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated — a sentiment echoed by several European leaders.
This marks a significant shift in the US approach to ending the conflict. Previously, Washington sought to pressure Ukraine into accepting a US- and Russia-brokered deal largely on Moscow’s terms. Now, America is attempting to strong-arm Russia into accepting a ceasefire as the first step toward a broader peace plan — warning that if Moscow refuses, “we’ll unfortunately know what the impediment is to peace here,” as Rubio put it.
Whether Russia will agree remains uncertain. Moscow has repeatedly stated that it does not view a ceasefire as viable without a broader framework for negotiations. But the parties are far from agreeing on this broader framework. Russia’s demands are clear: above all, legal recognition by Ukraine and the West of Russia’s annexed territories as part of the Russian Federation.
Yet, just days ago, Zelensky reiterated his opposition to any territorial concession, while all European leaders (except Orbán) outlined a “peace strategy” that involved boosting Ukraine’s military capabilities (including through the delivery of air defence systems, ammunition and missiles) in order to improve its position at the negotiating table and achieve a deal that “respects Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity”. In other words, no territorial concessions. This would be followed by strong security guarantees in the form of European (ie, Nato) troops on the ground — a demand echoed by Zelensky but firmly rejected by Russia.
It’s difficult to see why Moscow would accept a ceasefire under these conditions — especially as it continues to make gains on the battlefield. But that may be precisely the point from the perspective of Zelensky and European leaders: to “put the ball in Russia’s court”, anticipating that Moscow will reject the offer — thus allowing them to portray Russia as uninterested in peace. If so, it would mean that Trump has been cornered by the pro-war party.
Indeed, ever since Trump began negotiations with Putin to end the proxy war in Ukraine, European leaders have been doing everything in their power to derail his peace efforts, hijack the negotiations and prolong the conflict. After all, their insistence on a “just and lasting peace”, and their emphasis on Ukraine’s “territorial integrity”, is, in effect, a recipe for continuing the war under the guise of “peace through strength” — the same failed strategy that has landed Ukraine in this mess in the first place. Meanwhile, the Europeans have unveiled a sweeping rearmament plan, aimed at deterring Russia’s alleged expansionist ambitions — if not actually preparing for a war with Russia.
This is not the behaviour of those genuinely seeking peace. The same can be said for Zelensky’s insistence on territorial integrity and European peacekeepers — both non-starters for Russia. Adding to the contradictions, just hours before the US-Ukraine meeting in Jeddah, Ukraine launched its largest drone strike yet on the Moscow region, killing at least three people — an unusual way to enter peace talks.
At this stage, the most probable outcome is therefore a continuation of the war — at least in the short term. This would be the worst possible way forward for Ukraine: the longer the war continues, the worse Ukraine’s position will become. However, from Zelensky’s standpoint, it makes sense. If the war were to end, his political career would likely be over — and, in a more extreme sense, his very life could be at risk. In other words, Ukraine’s interests aren’t necessarily the same as Zelensky’s.
The same goes for Europe. From the perspective of Europe’s core interests, it is entirely irrational. Far from protecting Europe, the continent’s military build-up could very well create the very danger it purportedly seeks to avoid. Russia has neither the means nor the intent to invade Europe, yet the continuation of the proxy war, and Europe’s rearmament plans, only increase the risk of escalation. This is the exact dynamic that we saw play out in the case of Nato’s eastward expansion, and then in Ukraine.
Yet for the current European leadership, admitting defeat in Ukraine would be a massive political blow — especially given the steep economic toll borne by ordinary Europeans. The war has arguably become the sole source of purpose for EU leaders; without it, their failures would become painfully obvious. Meanwhile, the massive increase in defence spending, and the escalation of tensions, will further empower military-industrial lobbies and solidify the elites’ grip over European society by undermining welfare states and continuing their stifling of democracy under the guise of “fighting Russian interference” — as we are seeing in Romania.
Escalating tensions with Russia also offers a chance to further centralise power within the supranational arm of the EU — the European Commission. As Politico reported: “National capitals fear European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen will exploit this crisis to extend Brussels’ powers to new areas and strengthen her influence vis-à-vis national governments.”
Yet it would be a mistake to view the current transatlantic rift solely through the lens of the diverging interests of the European and American leaderships. Beyond these differences, there may be deeper dynamics at play: a coordination between Europe, the Democratic establishment and the liberal-globalist faction of the US permanent state — the web of entrenched interests spanning American bureaucracy, security state and military-industrial complex. These networks all have a shared interest in derailing peace talks and disrupting Trump’s presidency.
The US has, of course, a long history of political influence in Europe. Over the decades, it has built strong institutional ties with the state apparatuses of Western European countries, particularly among their defence and intelligence services. Additionally, the US establishment exercises considerable influence over European public discourse through mainstream English-language media outlets and think tanks. These organisations, such as the German Marshall Fund, the National Endowment for Democracy, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Atlantic Council, help shape the political narratives that dominate European society — and indeed today are at the forefront of pushing the idea that “no agreement is better than a bad one”.
Its origins lie in the Cold War, with the US actively promoting European integration as a bulwark against the Soviet Union. In other words, the EU, especially through its earlier iterations, has always been wedded to Atlanticism, and this has only intensified post-1991. This is why the EU’s technocratic establishment — specifically the European Commission — has historically been more aligned with America than European national governments. Ursula von der Leyen, dubbed “Europe’s American president”, is a prime example of this alignment, working tirelessly to maintain the EU’s commitment to America’s hawkish geopolitical strategy, particularly regarding Russia and Ukraine.
A key tool in this alliance has always been Nato, which today plays a key role in countering Trump’s efforts to shift the US approach towards Russia. In this context, Europe’s stance, though ostensibly aimed at Trump, stems from the recognition that elements within the US ruling class strongly oppose Trump’s overtures to Putin, harbour deep animosity toward Russia, and view the President’s threats to disengage from Nato and undermine other pillars of the post-war order as a strategic challenge to the systems that have upheld American hegemony for decades.
In other words, what on the surface appears to be a clash between Europe and the US may actually be, in a more fundamental sense, a struggle between different factions of the US empire — and, to a large degree, within the US establishment itself — waged through European proxies. After all, many of today’s European leaders have strong connections to these networks.
This could explain the “irrational” policies of those leaders, at least from the perspective of Europe’s objective interests — first, their blind support of the US-led proxy war in Ukraine, and now their insistence on continuing the war at all costs. According to this telling, the objectives of the transatlantic establishment appear quite clear: to demonise Trump, portraying him as a “Putin appeaser”; and to stoke European anxieties over their military vulnerability, including by inflating the Russian threat, in order to push the public into accepting increased defence spending and the continuation of the war for as long as possible.
Neither side in this transatlantic civil war truly has Europe’s interests at heart. The Trumpian faction deems Europe as an economic rival, with Trump himself repeatedly criticising the EU, calling it an “atrocity” designed to “screw” America. Just last week, he announced plans to impose 25% tariffs on European goods “very soon”. On the other hand, the liberal-globalist faction views Europe as a critical front in the proxy war against Russia.
In this context, a scenario in which Europeans prolong the war in Ukraine — at least in the short term — could be seen as a compromise between the two factions. The US can extricate itself from the Ukrainian quagmire while pursuing rapprochement with Russia and shifting its focus to China and Asia-Pacific, all while placing the blame for the failure to achieve peace squarely on Zelensky and the Europeans.
Meanwhile, Europe’s continued involvement in the war ensures its ongoing economic and geopolitical separation from Russia, and reinforces its continued economic dependence on the US — especially in the context of its defence spending hike, much of which would flow to the US military-industrial complex. At the same time, the European representatives of the liberal-globalist establishment would continue to use the Russian threat to entrench their power. Overall, this arrangement could be seen as acceptable by both sides.
In other words, as the geopolitical researcher Brian Berletic has suggested, what is often presented in the media as an unprecedented “transatlantic rift” may, in fact, be more of a “division of labour” in which the Europeans maintain the pressure on Russia while the US turns its attention to China. What’s worse, the scenario wouldn’t change that much even if some kind of peace deal were eventually worked out. Europe would bear both the cost and the responsibility for post-war security arrangements, while remaining locked in a new Cold War with Russia — all while the United States secures its control over Ukraine’s resources.
The long-term effects of this strategy would leave Europe in a perpetual state of instability, its resources drained by ongoing defence spending and its political autonomy further undermined. The true losers in this arrangement would be the people of Europe — and, of course, Ukraine — who will continue to bear the burden of this geopolitical tug-of-war.
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SubscribeMany of the individual points made by Thomas Fazi are correct but the overall argument is wrong. A peace deal is desirable – in the circumstances – , deliverable and probable.
1/ As with the Korean War and other proxy wars between nuclear states, a pragmatic partition is a better outcome than a principled fight to the finish.
2/ The Ukrainians realise in private that they will need to make territorial concessions if they want a deal but have every reason to deny this prior to any talks as a negotiating tactic.
3/ The alternative for them is further Russian military success and even worse terms down the road. Absent Trump, the war would continue and Putin probably achieve far more of his aims.
4/ There are patriotic zealots – especially from western Ukraine – who will never compromise but most of the
groups Fazi mentions can accept a deal which encourages increased European defence spending, discourages nuclear war and protects 80% of Ukrainians by accepting that Putin has in practice taken control of the 20% of Russian speakers in Crimea and Donetsk.
5/ A deal will fall short of the total victory in defence of international law that many have proclaimed should be the West’s aim but – like the 1953 division of Korea – it is the best available option.
6/ Trump’s approach may be startling but it seems to be working.
Extremely well put Alex.
Provided that any such “deal” makes it clear that no Western European nation will ever buy Russia’s oil and gas, I can live with it.
Here’s a guy who clearly doesn’t live in Europe.
Complete opposite. We must get that and all the other advantages the US may get. Otherwise cutting your nose off to spite yourself righteousness.
Given that Mr Trump holds ALL the aces there can only logically be one outcome.
As Thucydides put it a few years ago now:-
“.Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
I fear you are right and we are heading into a period of realpolitik with more Thucydides and less Grotius than in the 1990 – 2020 period.
On the other hand, there is a pendulum in these things. During periods of prolonged peace or idealism international lawyers construct their castles in the sky only for them to crumble when wars break out eg Britain spent the 1920s and early 30s signing treaties outlawing war as an instrument of policy and banning the bombing of civilians only to declare war in 1939 and flatten Hamburg, Berlin and Dresden over the next six years – and to be praised for its efforts. Subsequently, it has been amongst the keenest advocates of international law.
Well we have certainly enjoyed a sort of nano ‘Pax Romana’ since 1945, despite a few, relatively small outbursts of excitement.
However reading some of the comments on UnHerd I sense you could be correct, and there is new sense of belligerence brewing.
Perhaps rather cynically I put this down to a sense of boredom. Let’s face it most the ills that once beset us have all but been eliminated. Hunger, disease, gross exploitation, lack of even basic education etc, etc.
In turn they have been replaced by obsessions such transgender rights, BLM, various degrees of ‘feminism’, Islamophobia, and far too much petty nationalism. All this off course while much of the population faces being crippled by obesity! The paradox is delightful!
In conclusion we should always remember but predictably won’t, that: “silent enim leges inter arma” as ‘you know who’ put it so appositely, a few years ago now,
There is a lot of irony in your post.
The Thucydides quotation you adduce are not his words, but are reported by him as the words of the Athenian commander to the defeated Melians … who had tried to remain neutral in the Peloponnesian War but were annihilated by Athens.
So you can imagine these words being spoken by Trump or Vance to Zelensky…
Isn’t that rather ‘splitting hairs’? And yes I can imagine President Trump or indeed Vice President Vance saying something very similar to the unfortunate Mr Zelensky, can’t you?
In fact on reflection I would imagine they have already been said.In short “it’s all over bar the shouting” as we say.
Agreed, but I rather think that Thucydides did not endorse the Athenian commander’s words. As said much later, it’s hardly designed to win friends and influence people.
Also bearing in mind Athens’ experience when it lost the Peloponnesian War.
It would be interesting to know what the Spartans had to say, which I imagine would have been even more robust/ direct than the Athenians.
Nice idea especially in irony, but not sure you intended it like that. The striking thing linking various strands of the new Administration’s initiatives is a frank recognition of their structural weaknesses. Not only is the Federal state bankrupt but it’s far from profitable to make stuff there anymore and the Dollar is really under threat as a reserve currency. Worst crisis for 50 years and the answers found then have become part of the problem.
That doesn’t put us in a better place though
Well being English I’m rather prone to irony it’s a national trait! Sorry about that.
However you are correct that the US is in “deep sh*t, to lapse into the vernacular, and therefore desperate measures are necessary, including the employment of such people as Peter Thiel Esq.
Good article.
This is the heart of it:
“Russia has neither the means nor the intent to invade Europe, yet the continuation of the proxy war, and Europe’s rearmament plans, only increase the risk of escalation.”
Good to see Fazi call out the treasonous, duplicitous and dangerous behaviour of European politicians. It seems clear that this is what’s happening:
“European representatives of the liberal-globalist establishment would continue to use the Russian threat to entrench their power.”
It would be bad enough if it were just an EU ploy, but Starmer seems keen to get us nuked first.
This article completely misses the point that Trump wants to reduce US government spending on the military and there are huge vested interests in the military, intelligence services and the arms manufacturing industry opposed to this policy. A more interesting question is to ask when and why NATO became a political force independent of the national governments it is supposed to protect. I can’t remember voting for Rutte.
If that is what Trump really wants, he’d better tell Americans they should start learning Chinese.
If Americans want any chance of beating China in diplomacy and in trade, having a broad knowledge of Chinese would be essential
Forgive me, but isn’t it axiomatic that the US needs a flourishing arms industry, or Military Industrial Complex as I think the late President Eisenhower put it?
For example after the Washington Disarmament Conference of 1921/22 the US Navy gave up building Battleships, the last to be launched was USS Colorado in 1921. The next to be launched was USS North Carolina in 1940. The 19 year interval was one of extreme economic stagnation, resulting in poverty for many in the US.
In short as Heraclitus*put it: “War is the father of all, and the King of all.” So how is Mr Trump going to compensate for a massive reduction in ‘defence spending’? I wish him well, but really wonder how he will deal with this dichotomy!
*Sixth century BC to use Christian chronology.
Isn’t he going to cut US Defence spending and get the Europeans to increase theirs- and most of the latter will go to the US defence industry?
Or is that too simple?
Trump has made it very clear that he wants to strengthen US military, desiring to thereby avoid war. Military readiest is the best deterrent to world wars.
I will cut off my head with a blunt butter knife if European armies ‘Boots on the ground’ are larger in 5 years time than they are now.
‘…..the Europeans have unveiled a sweeping rearmament plan, aimed at deterring Russia’s alleged expansionist ambitions…… This is not the behaviour of those genuinely seeking peace.’
Maybe it is; if one side is deterred from military aggression by the apparent countervailing military strength of the other, then that’s an effective formula for ‘peace’.
Yes we need a bigger stick. But we don’t need the neocon thinking that appears to accompany.it. Yet again 2TK on front pages in military attire. Offensive and inappropriate. Or perhaps just a deliberate distraction from a sovereign debt crisis. I.don’t see the English going along with this schtick. Teust is too low.and legitimacy increasingly questioned (2T sentencing recommendations the latest in a long line).
Europe’s leaders reek of desperation. War is among the Hail Mary plays of presidents and prime ministers with low approval numbers, no real plan for improving what they’ve screwed up, and a disconnect with reality. Which of these wannabe Rambos did Putin attack? Oh, that’s right; none of them. He just sold them affordable energy while they finagled to march NATO right up to his border despite repeated warnings that this would end badly.
There is definitely an issue with Zelensky and Kiev continuing the war with European aid. That’s why I found it surprising that Washington immediately restored access to aid and intelligence once the Ukrainian government agreed to the ceasefire proposal. There is some kind of game being played with Moscow then but I’m not sure it’s a well-calculated one.
On one level, the proposal has hastened a meeting between Trump and Putin; there the biggest issue may well be who is present internationally in the Ukraine after a peace treaty. I’d imagine Trump thinks that he will get the minerals deal and install private security accompanying American mining corporations as something which Putin would agree to rather than European quasi-NATO peacekeeping force.
“Far from protecting Europe, the continent’s military build-up could very well create the very danger it purportedly seeks to avoid.”
From the most ancient of city empires to continents today, and in the school playground for that matter, the idea that retaining one’s weakness deflects bullies has failed to prevent the bully from bullying. It is a classic excuse of the bully domestic abuser to the bully autocrat to say, ‘It isn’t my fault.You left me no choice but to beat you, rape you, invade you. You should do what I tell you and then I will be nice to you.’
Please let’s stop going down this disastrous line yet again in Europe and UK.
Good piece. Trump might have been better checking with the Russians first whether they would accept his terms (and maybe he did). We could be heading for a repeat of JFK’s Presidency, which saw him isolated in the WH by November 1963 (and knowing his life was in danger). Time will tell. If the author’s thesis is correct, the problem for the US Deep State and for Europe (which wants the war to continue as ending it puts the EU also at risk because of how it has handled the war) is that Ukraine will soon be defeated on the battlefield, even if Trump is forced to continue support Zekenskyy. Wheels within wheels within wheels. We will have to see what happens in the coming days.
The real reason Eoropean elites want to rearm, is in order to use the military against their own populations when they eventually rise up against them.
Would the British Army ‘open fire’ on its own people? It always has done in the past but NEXT time?
Now becoming clear that Washington posing as a mediator between Moscow and Kyiv is either just a PR smokescreen or it’s a prelude to resumption of war on Russia and Europe.
The war over Ukraine was never only about de-Russifying the composite country created in 1993 and hitching its resources. It was always intended to separate Russia from Europe and give the US the same kind of play it had in Russia before the arrival of Putin and effectively break up the Russian Federation.
Only the first of those objectives has been attained. The issue to focus on is how far US geopolitics now prioritises gaining peaceful access to Russian resources on a par with that accorded China by strategic accords rather than proxy war.
Otherwise the game’s not changed and Trump is just burden shifting to help rescue Federal finances.
We won’t necessarily find out the answer straight away for reasons some tick above. And it’s also possible given what we know about Trump and his heteroclite Administration, that Donald doesn’t even realise he can’t play all ends against each other here as he likes to do and is therefore in no position to determine strategic US interests.
But we can say objectively that the consequences of renewed proxy war will be much less advantageous to US geo economic and geo political interests than a mutually satisfactory accord with Russia, whatever the consequences for the Kyiv regime. And Trump knows as well as we do that regime needs to be cleaned up by us if we don’t want Moscow to do it. Restore political and economic rights to all including Russian interests or there’ll be peace.
A Kremlin press release sprinkled with random conspiracy nonsense. How sad.
One of the many ironies of this debacle is how correct Trump was during his first term. Trump was scoffed at and derided for demanding that Europe increase its defense spending. He was smugly told to butt out regarding energy. His arming of Ukraine with defensive weapons was was thought to be silly by the same Eurowarhawks talking delusional numbers and strategies.
A ceasefire would be so good. But the terms of the ceasefire must not obstruct a permanent peace. It’s a mistake to resume arms supplies to Ukraine during the ceasefire. More weapons do not assist peace, as the last three years have shown. But if I’m mistaken, and more arms do indeed assist peace, then also send arms to Russia. That would also increase profits of US arms manufacturers.
I am glad that some common sense is coming to the fore in Europe. The idea that Russia could be trusted, either as a trading partner or as a neighbour, was always laughable.
Ah, Thomas Fazi, Unherd’s house conspiracy theorist. America, the grand puppeteer, pulling the strings…
It does not occur to Fazi that Europe’s governments are perfectly capable of determining their own interests, and acting accordingly.
Russia might not be in a position to overrun Europe, but a ‘successful’ war in Ukraine might embolden Putin to try his luck with Moldova and the Baltic states. This is undesirable, so it’s in our interests to see Putin humiliated and Russia permanently weakened. Similar, in fact, to Anglo-French aims in the Crimean War.
The other thing that has to happen is for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU.
Empires don’t relinquish vassal states.
Occasionally they do.
We for example ceded the Ionian Islands to the nascent Kingdom of Greece in 1864. A most generous gesture on the part of Palmerston which is rarely, if ever acknowledged.
For not having the same view of the other member states?
Democratic EU indeed.
If Hungary doesn’t want to play by EU rules, it should get out and go to Putin.
Does it have to embrace rainbow flags, slogans and armbands or else?
Do you want a homogenous technocratic blob?
If you are working contrary to the aims of a club, it may be a good idea to leave it.
The Crimean War was eventually followed by Britain’s Entente with Russia of 1907. An agreed division of territory that might otherwise be sources of rivalry. This agreement enabled both to counter the increasing military strength and global ambitions of Imperial Germany.
Czarist Russia did not have to be humiliated. If it had been permanently weakened, the German general staff may have been victorious in 1914. Today, which power is the greatest rival to the ‘West’, principally the USA? Russia or China?
If European states can determine their own interests, how are Britain’s interests tied to Moldova, a country constitutionally neutral? If that country attempted to join NATO, the same problems would arise as with Ukraine’s interest in the same. Don’t ‘we’ ever learn?
Isn’t it odd that the minerals deal was originally condemned as the most egregious example of colonialism, but now, on the turn of a sixpence, it has been approved by the entire House of Commons.
A ‘successful’ war in Ukraine, successful to the ‘West’, might embolden the ‘West’ to try its luck in Georgia or Moldova.
What happens to countries that are humiliated by greater powers? China is seeking to expunge that sort of shame. Who could say that is unjust? Putin won’t be there forever. Who comes after him?
On the other hand, Britain does have her own particular advantage in such matters where there are more mirrors that at Versailles and more smoke than would be emitted by burning the entire Amazon rainforest. We can drink down humiliation as if were a pint of warm craft beer: Suez Sludge. Its intoxication is a form of amnesia. Which reminds the observant of something that C S Lewis said about how to deal with shame.
What be an absolute load of b****cks this article is.
Until Russia accepts a ceasefire, Ukraine is well within its rights to carry on fighting.
Also Zelenskyy is hardly going to come out now and give up vast swathes of territory before the negotiations have even started because then he’d have nothing to barter with. The whole point is to maximise your starting position so the final result is as painless as possible.
Likewise Europe building up the capabilities of its armed forces is entirely sensible if we look at Russias actions over the last decade or more. In fact it’s rather shocking that it’s taken them this long to react.
Trying to link Russias actions in the peace negotiations with Zelenskyy’s political career is simply nonsense, just the usual regurgitated Kremlin tripe we’ve come to expect from Fazi
Imagine living in 2025 and still believing that Biden, Obama and their globalist friends have your best interests at heart!
I have serious doubts about Trump & Musk, and Putin is no hero, but I struggle to understand grown men who think propaganda only comes from foreigners.
The issue isn’t that people such as Billy Bob think propaganda only comes from foreigners, because they don’t, it’s that people such as yourself think it only comes from your own country and allies.
Not at all. Propaganda comes from all sides. There are no good guys in this war.
I’m not sure what Obama or Biden have to do with anything as I never mentioned them. I also don’t believe propaganda only comes from foreigners and never said anything of the sort.
Therefore all things considered I have to question what it is your reply actually relates to, as it clearly doesn’t correspond to anything I’ve written
Did I read too much into your dismissal of valid points as “regurgitated Kremlin tripe” and “an absolute load of b****cks”?
I mentioned Obama and Biden because of their role in stoking anti-Russian sentiment, provoking this war and keeping it going, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives and significantly increased risk of nuclear war.
Like Yugoslavia before it, Ukraine as it existed from 1991 to 2014 was not a natural nation state. Look at any election map before the 2014 coup and you’ll see a country divided between ethnically & linguistically Russian areas, which unsurprisingly prioritised good relations with Russia, and ethnically & linguistically Ukrainian areas, which prioritised a closer relationship with the West.
Putin isn’t blameless, obviously, but the conflict could have been avoided if the US had respected Russia’s sphere of influence, and it could have ended years ago if Ukrainian nationalists hadn’t shown a pathological desire to recapture pro-Russian areas of Ukraine (including Crimea!).
No good comes from treating this conflict as a simple battle between good and evil, ignoring the complicated history and vested interests.
Propaganda comes from lots of places, but Russia has (from a Western European perspective) always been the “bad guy”, and that doesn’t seem likely to change.
Probably.
I just wish people would advance their thinking from Russia as “the bad guy” to Russia as “a bad guy”.
All of the evils western democracies have suffered this century were committed by our own leaders.
What “evils” are you talking about?
“Likewise Europe building up the capabilities of its armed forces is entirely sensible if we look at Russias actions over the last decade or more“. Last 200 years or more really. Western Europe first came into conflict with Russia in the Crimean War, which commenced due to Russian expansionism.
The first partition of Poland in 1772 might be a better ‘start point’?
Spot on.
I always enjoy this broad view:
https://youtu.be/UY9P0QSxlnI
“This video shows the borders and populations of each country in Europe, for every year since 400 BC.”
Thank you.
Where was your brave support of Trump in the 2017-2020 period when his suggestions, build up Ukraine and rationalize European energy and defense, were literally laughed at by this same gaggle of “leaders”…
Why Unherd insists in publishing articles from this guy? Again and again it is just Russian propaganda, just a little bit less obvious than from the usual Russian BOTs talking points. I can read them for free on X, if I were so masochist