'Death addicts' tuned into ISIS videos. Ahmad Al-Rubaye/AFP/Getty.

Within hours of the Southport murders last July, photos of the horribly wounded young victims began circulating in private messaging groups. One Right-wing activist was so outraged by what he saw that he took to X to tell his thousands of followers about it. “It has to go off,” he fumed in a rant recorded in his car. And soon enough it did: it went off in Southport, Sunderland, Rotherham, and several other towns across the UK.
I don’t know if these particular photos made their way to the internet. But I do know that there are thousands of similar images out there in the virtual world, where, like pornography, murder videos follow you everywhere. It didn’t used to be this way: in the not-too-distant past, if you wanted to see a mutilated dead body or a violent killing, you’d have to trudge off to a video store to rent out Faces of Death. Now, you just need to go on X, where, since Elon Musk took over the platform in October 2022, “death porn” is all over the timeline whether you like it or not.
Over the last year, I have come across footage on X of a brutal stabbing of a homeless man on a street, a marauding terrorist attack in a concert hall, a stabbing rampage at a shopping outlet and, on Christmas Eve, a woman being burned alive on a New York subway train. And I didn’t even go looking for it.
Axel Rudakubana, however, was looking for it. His interest in online death porn was not merely curious but resembled a fixation. Of the tens of thousands of documents that Merseyside police sifted through on his digital devices, many related to war, terrorism and genocide, and included graphic images of dead bodies, victims of torture and beheadings. He had also downloaded (at least twice since 2021) an Al-Qaeda manual which contained an entire section on how to use a knife as an offensive weapon. On the morning of the massacre, as if to ready himself for the violence he was about to unleash, he searched for a video on X showing the stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel at a church in Sydney last April.
There is no single profile of a mass killer, beyond the fact that the vast majority are male. But there are recurring patterns. In addition to harbouring a desire to kill, most have a voracious interest in killing itself as well as in the lives and psychology of famous killers. There are several reasons for this: reading about a killer or watching CCTV footage of their atrocities holds up a mirror to their own dark desires, which I suppose makes them feel less alone in the world and less pathologically deviant. It also gives them a template for how to carry out a murder. Perhaps, too, would-be-murderers take a vicarious pleasure from watching or reading about killing, insinuating themselves in the minds and bodies of infamous death-takers.
In fact, many mass killers are highly competitive, often with an encyclopaedic knowledge of the body-counts of previous mass killers and a grudging admiration for the big-hitters. The aspiring American jihadist-now-jailbird Mohamed Alessa, for instance, was clearly envious of the mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan, saying: “Freaking Major-Nidal-shaved-face-Palestinian-crazy guy, he’s not better than me. I’ll do twice what he did.”
Rudakubana has rather a lot in common with Jake Davison, Britain’s last infamous mass killer, who went on a shooting rampage in Plymouth in August 2021. Like Rudakubana, Davison had been diagnosed with autism, had a history of violence, had previously been referred to Prevent, and had no clear or known motive for carrying out his atrocity, much less a guiding ideology. He also shared with Rudakubana an obsession with weapons — in his case, firearms — and an empathetic interest in the minds and actions of mass killers.
It is not really surprising, however, that mass murderers are obsessed with violence. What is far more disconcerting is the idea that so many apparently ordinary people share their revolting fixations. From Plato to Burke, classical writers have long acknowledged the strange attraction of atrocious images. “Plato appears to take for granted that we have an appetite for sights of degradation and pain and mutilation,” remarked Susan Sontag, who wrote at length about the subject. “There is no spectacle we so eagerly pursue,” Burke observed in A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origins of the Sublime and Beautiful, “as that of some uncommon and grievous calamity.” That was in 1757, well before the Netflix true crime special came into its own.
Never was this clearer than during the age of ISIS execution videos, which, though of course popular among the group’s supporters, found a devoted fandom among the self-described “death addicts” and trolls who slum it on internet shock-sites. While researching a book on the subject, I discovered that those who watch gory videos — and they’re a diverse bunch — do so for a whole range of reasons: to satisfy a morbid curiosity about death; to feel a strong emotion; to crush deep-seated fears around death and violation; to learn something about the dark corners of the world; to neutralise feelings of complacency or boredom; or to test their courage.
Others take a sadistic thrill in seeing other people suffer. No one I interviewed quite put it in that way, but one American woman in her early 20s — let’s call her Nicola (not her real name) — came close to articulating this. “I have always been interested in gore and I guess the ‘dark things’ ever since I can remember,” Nicola told me, specifying that her “favourites” were “wood chipper deaths and brutal torture”. “I don’t think I can give you a true answer as to why I enjoy it besides that I just do,” she explained, adding: “I get tingly when I see something different.”
Should atrocity videos be left to feed this desire for gore and brutality online? “Let the atrocious images haunt us,” Susan Sontag said in 2004, arguing that they perform the “vital function” of showing the evil of “what human beings are capable of doing”. Two decades later, nobody needs reminding of the presence of human evil because its extremities are now filmed and shared so widely on the internet.
Gore fans insist that this is a good thing; that atrocity videos are a form of reality news that documents crimes against humanity and can be used to bring perpetrators to justice. But even the most brazen gore fan would have to admit that watching a mass beheading is a strange way of keeping up with the news. And it’s hard to be entirely sanguine about the sheer volume of this kind of material now available online, and the ease with which so many people, including children, can access it.
Even the most trenchant free speech advocates are now expressing concern about what all of this is doing to us. Matt Walsh recently told Joe Rogan that “when I go on social media I’m constantly seeing these horrific videos of people dying… it feels like a relatively recent development”. “It’s got to mess with your mind.”
One sure way in which it messes with your mind is by warping it, tricking you into thinking that the world is far more violent and insane than it actually is. This is compounded by the highly selective way in which people tend to watch and share atrocity material. If all you do is watch videos of the destroyed bodies of countless Palestinian children killed in Israeli airstrikes, you might risk becoming desensitised to this horror. You might also start to think that Israelis and their supporters are evil. Similarly, if all you do is watch videos of African migrants robbing or stabbing people, then you might start to think that all African migrants are criminals or potential ones. As for the gore fans I interviewed, most confessed that they had a pessimistic, if not outright cynical or “blackpilled” view of the world after years of watching atrocity videos.
So did online body-horror mess with Axel Rudakubana’s mind? The easy but unconvincing answer is that it not only messed with his mind, but that it drove him to murder. This assumption draws on a long-standing and empirically paper-thin thesis about the malignant effects of violent media that is ritually invoked whenever some troubled individual commits an act of horrifying violence that defies sense and comprehension. The chief problem with this explanation, however, is that vast numbers of people have been exposed to violent media, while only a tiny number commit acts of terrible violence.
The more likely scenario is that Rudakubana’s mind was already profoundly warped to begin with, and that it was his pre-existing moral deformation that animated his interest in mass murder. Perhaps, for a time, inhaling dark matter on the internet gave him some sort of cathartic release from wanting to act on his sadistic desires. This is a less comforting explanation as it suggests that censoring information about atrocities or banning images or videos depicting them — as the government is now calling for in the wake of Rudakubana’s conviction — would likely not have stopped Rudakubana. Thrilled by thoughts of death and omnipotence, he would probably have found other outlets to indulge his perverse impulses — until he could contain them no longer.
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SubscribeI have always, since I was a child, been appalled by the idea that you could show images of dead bodies. I don’t know why exactly, something to do with the fact someone had lost their life for that image to be taken and that they had no control, no dignity left. This was the case even if the image maker had nothing to do with the incident.
When I was young it was only on the news, and the images were distant and impersonal. But no no-one seems to care or be that bothered that such images, and much worse, are so readily available now (though personally I don’t come across them very often, perhaps because I barely use social media).
Pity.
Despite all her achievements in music and acting, and all her triumphs over addiction, to see Marianne Faithfull come to old age, to see all her youthful beauty and vigour, all the possibilities inherent in her life in the 1960s, come to death is to have pity.
As Tolkien has one of his characters lamenting of another, he will ‘come to death, the image of the kings of men, undimmed before the breaking of the world’. Oh, if all her youthful beauty and vigour could live again, undimmed eternally.
Alas, poor Yorick.
But it isn’t only pity. Violent death is just something that shouldn’t be seen.
In contrast to all this are the good ladies of the Southport Wellbeing Choir singing anaesthetic to the communities.
I will say it again.
Why do Unherd just repeat the government’s narrative?
This site is a disgrace for not allowing alternative view points. For not allowing debate between the contributors. For gaslighting the readers, the public.
Having a single dominant media narrative is a disaster for everyone.
It prevents debate, it prevents people thinking for themselves.
It is coercion. It is anti-human.
Well Richard, please tell me what your alternative view point is. I’m sure we’re all waiting to hear it.
Why should it be my view point? Just anyone who doesn’t agree with the Starmer narrative.
What is the Starmer narrative?
The article clearly did disagree with a simplistic narrative that internet proliferation is to blame
He set it out in the press conference the day after the trial.
No mention of Islam or terrorism.
The new threat is very violent individuals. He defined that as the ‘new’ terrorism.
Faithfully followed by Unherd.
Don’t you think?
Sir Keir wants to redefine terrorism as how you behave not what you think. So if I lose my temper out on the street when ,what would make me lose my temper,well if I did and had a strop,maybe my bus just got cancelled then in the unlikely case a stray policeman was about,another bus stop waiter could have me arrested for unruly behaviour but if I started handing out leaflets about Jesus……but that would probably get me arrested as well.
No mention of Islam or terrorism.
While it is true that nobody has found an iota of evidence linking Rudakubana to any Islamist agenda, I agree with you that Starmer should not have wasted this opportunity to stir up hatred against Muslims by speciously accusing him of being an al-Qaeda agent.
How are we ever going to get anti-Muslim pogroms going in this country, if we stick to the mere facts!
You didn’t answer my question from the other thread. You mentioned Tommy Robinson and his ‘conspiracy theories’. Are you saying there are no Pakistani rape gangs?
Nobody is saying that. When you have to invent what people are saying in order to prove your point it implies you don’t really have a leg to stand on
He goes to mosque. He had an Al Queda manual. He stabbed little white Christian/European children.
The Gov danced around this issue and came up with everything from being an incel to admiring Hitler (as many Muslims do) so to not offend the religion of peace.
Wake up.
They are all too occupied with jerking off to thoughts of how kind and liberal and tolerant and intelligent they are to see beyond what they are told to think.
Perfectly astute and beautiful written.
Very few commentators seem to have mentioned the parents and their possible role. Why did not they raise concerns over their psychopathic son? Genuinely interested to know.
It seems they did, calling in the police on him no fewer than six times. His father physically stopped him leaving the house with a knife to go to a school (he called the police after that). The question is why the police did nothing – the level of state failure is staggering.
Indeed Geoff. And when will parents be told that they will also be held responsible for the actions of thier offspring. Now we are faced with huge bills for their protection from revenge seekers out there – for the rest of their lives.
But why are our minds so wedded to the idea of the bourgeois nuclear family anyway. Is that idea being used to manipulate our thoughts. I do not believe that the adults on the scene were his parents at all but TRAINERS. This whole thing is a total set-up and the horrible thing is it’s not even about young – Axel – a black as black with a Swedish name? Did the family come here via Sweden? He was just tool for clearing the path to implementing the reintroduction of the Death Penalty
I have in my post above. Parents my big knickers. There is stuff here we should know but they are not going to tell us.
They did, at least from the bits I’ve read. They phoned the police numerous times and the father stopped him going out with a knife, but ultimately you can’t keep a 17 year old under permanent supervision. You have to work and sleep
Where a person is still a child until the age of 18, the parents must be held responsible for that person´s activities below that age. Whether or not they tried to control is not the point – the fact is they did not succeed, and they must be responsible. Too often, the state relieves parents of responsibilities, and we all suffer as a consequence.
Sounds good in theory, but how does it work in practice?
At 17 I was physically much stronger than my mum, and probably roughly on par with my dad so physically keeping me in the house would have been a struggle. Even if they both could physically restrain me there would have been plenty of opportunities to sneak out, unless they wanted to go full Fritzl and lock me in a dungeon.
This man’s crimes were his and his only. Unless the parents bought him the knives specifically to go stabbing children then there is no guilt on their part
Unfortunately, the invention of the intersnake has made it easy for people who have a fascination with death and gore to find what they need for their thrills. These people have always been with us but they used to have to go out in the world to search for such information, often in libraries where nosy librarians could report their unusual fascinations to the authorities. Now, it is a free for all and atrocities like Southport are the result. Societies need to do more to police themselves. Bring back the nosy librarians!
The author’s assumption that the availability of images of horrific brutalities is not at all to blame for the demented murders we see today seems misguided to me.
Remember, it took decades for the credentialed ‘better minds’ to recognize the fact that little boys who like to kill animals often grow up to be harmful to the people around them. I’m sure I’m not the only one who knew this, instinctually, when I was 6 or 8 years old.
We’re not just talking about a random choice of video from a drop-down menu; people are pursuing these vids. The quote from the young woman who gets “all tingly” watching torture videos certainly suggests a deeper effect; something more like a fetish. And we can bet that the algorithms aren’t helping.
I don’t think social media algos are turning people violent, nor making people with mental illnesses more likely to harm others. Psychopathy, violent personalities, and mental illnesses have always existed, and pre-19th Century life was considerably more violent and hazardous than life in modern, western societies.
Hunter-gatherer societies in the Brazilian rain forest have the world’s highest rates of violent crime. War, civil conflict, and homicide were far, far more common in the Dark Ages, the war torn medieval era, the duellist /swashbuckler/piracy eras of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment/ colonial eras, and during the wars and lawlessness of the North American frontier. These were all times when violent deaths or injury were far, far more commonplace.
It’s only in the mid 20th century that we saw modern policing and safe cities, but even the 1950s and 60s had far higher violent crime rates than the West has today.
And this was all long before violent entertainment in the media, or depictions of gory true crime became commonplace, and was of course long before social media.
Rudakubana was deeply mentally ill, dangerously so, and was apparently untreated. All mass murderers have similar case histories, where as adolescents they resisted treatment, or their parents refused to acknowledge their child’s illnesses. School shooters in the US are almost always were under some sort of psychiatric care, or were known to be dangerously disturbed.
It wasn’t gore, nor video games, nor movies and television that led them to harm people. Those tendencies were always there, and are unlikely to be stopped by simply banning images or speech.
Dangerously ill people can possibly be treated, or at least supervised and perhaps confined, so that they are less likely to be a danger to others. But dangerous people like Rudakubana have always existed.
Completely agree. Having never had the desire to access social media outside the comments sections of papers, I have no idea if x is any good or not. However like blaming radicalism on media content is one way of, in this case, trying to close down or manipulate content.
I don’t care what anyone says, you have to have the internal ingredients already there in order for any content to stimulate you into action. Ordinary people do not go on the internet and become either jihadists or serial killers after watching dodgy content more than once. If they did, the world would be a bloodbath by now.
And, what has autism got to do with it? It’s the first time I’d heard about him having a diagnosable condition; or did he just get it on his solicitor’s advice?
Autistic people are probably less likely to be violent than any other group apart from lashing out to keep people away if they get afraid and are badly autistic.
Their feelings and emotions are the same as anyone else’s, but they have difficulty in reading others meaning and intentions.
I would say this young man has psychopathic tendencies not autistic ones.
His emerging history leads to the conclusion he would have done something like this eventually even if he’d never set eyes on the internet.
Well I think they weren’t his ‘parents’ I think they were his ‘trainers’. So where are they now then Mr + Mrs Rubbishbag. Strangely invisible. They were active Pillars of their Church into everything. Ive never heard one single word from any church in thid land saying oh they were wonderful we can’t comprehend what happened to their son,cute little black b*****d he was. It’s like they NEVER REALLY EXISTED. Whatever that poor little fucker started out as he was put on drugs,forced to watch that stuff to pervert his mind and trained to go off. Those adults were his TRAINERS. So explain how I’m wrong. Let’s have a testimony from the church(es) they were active in. How about the ex-neighbours. They were s lovely family,kept themselves to themselves. How about his mates at school. But he didn’t have any mates did he. In fact this image is so horrific Sir Keir will be able to attain his hearts desire and bring back The Death Penalty with not a murmur of dissent. Rach is in favour,it costs a lot of money to feed clothe and house the economically inactive for 30+ years. That’s why she wants to top pensioners as well.
I’ve seen death on the real world and through media. At no point have I ever been radicalised or moved to stab anyone. All it was was a part of reality many people have to deal with daily.
There’s a big difference between seeing death and actively seeking it out for kicks, which is the premise of the article
We’re all bathed in depictions of violence, though, from movies and TV shows to the nightly news, and actions like Rudakubana’s, though horrific, are blessedly rare.
Yes, looking at stuff, has no influence on us whatsoever… advertisers are wasting billions showing us images of stuff, goods, services, they want to sell… How stupid can they be? As, we are all utterly un-influenceable… no effect whatsoever on what we want, what we imagine… watching dehumanizing, degrading material has no impact on us whatsoever…
Actually, why not bring back public executions, we can take our kids to watch… it will have no effect on anyone…
I have never understood why people like watching others suffer… be it in “harmless” films and dramas, or for real… Yet, to those that do, “good luck if you, or anyone you know and care about, ever fall into the hands of someone who would like to do to you, what you like watching others do to others…” Just my view. Of course the Romans with their bloody “games,” Genghis Khan, the Conquistadors, Nazis etc would not have agreed.
Distasteful reading constantly about such creatures. His family should never have been let into the country. Same goes for a lot of minority communities who have brought violence and violent attitudes to the UK.
I hope a day comes when very few, or none, will remain who find watching other people suffer, especially in extreme ways, like atrocity and torture scenes in films, or in real life, entertaining.
Why were Rwandans in the UK? It was a German/Belgian colony not British. If we import these people we shouldn’t be surprised when they or their disenfranchised offspring go on a killing spree every once in a while.
There will be 1.5 extra Africans by 2050. They are NOT going to stay in Africa. Laws have to be made robust enough to deal with this and ALL asylum and immigration from MENAP and sub Saharan countries must stop and be made illegal. No family reunion, no path to citizenship …. Look at the state of Belgium, Sweden, France and the UK….
There will be a catastrophic uprising to take our continent back from the savages if we don’t act soon.
There is a weak sister to death porn – “on the spectrum” so to say – which are these “fail” videos that involve someone doing something, usually stupid, and obviously getting hurt. In the middle ages it was considered amusing to pour a flammable liquid on village stray cats and light them on fire and laugh while they ran around howling. Humans have a dark side we should to keep in check.