The day after the presidential election, Stephen Colbert — ostensibly a comic — opened his CBS show by addressing his audience like a doctor delivering a terminal diagnosis. “Hey there, how are you doing?” he asked, gazing softly into the camera. “If you watch this show regularly, I’m guessing you’re not doing great. Me neither.” Over on NBC, Seth Meyers was less unctuous but similarly displeased with the result. Jon Stewart, fronting The Daily Show on Comedy Central, warned solemnly against rushing to take any lessons from the defeat. And on HBO, there was John Oliver blisteringly disappointed in the electorate.
Three men behind three desks in three near-identical formats, espousing near-identical views. It shouldn’t matter much what this clique has to say about the presidency. But it does. Though Trump is usually held up as the pinnacle of politics merging with the entertainment industry, the truth is that the liberal side got there well ahead, thanks to the merging of current affairs and comedy that has characterised the late-night TV show since the Nineties. These hosts don’t speak to the nation, but they do speak to — and for — an influential slice of the Democratic establishment. Right now, they seem determined to use their influence to ensure that only the wrong questions get asked.
Crucially, the late-night caucus has declared itself opposed to any introspection on whether the Democrats were hurt by their lurch into identity politics. On this, the numbers are very obvious: it’s a yes. Kamala Harris’s campaign attempted to speak to black, latina/latino (not latinx) and women voters as blocs, and these efforts failed to engage sufficiently. Worse, Harris’s past statements in support of a maximalist version of trans rights came back to haunt her badly during the campaign.
One of the most effective spots run by the Trump campaign simply showed Harris in 2019, asserting her support for taxpayer-funded transition surgeries for prisoners. It also referenced her backing for male athletes in girls’ high-school sports. It ended with the punchy slogan: “Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you.” One analysis said it produced a 2.7 swing towards Trump in voters who viewed it. Bad enough that this underlined Harris’s association with a deeply unpopular cause. Worse, in an election where the economy was of prime importance, it reminded voters that they would be picking up the cheque for these values.
The undeniable salience of the trans issue means that this became the first line of defensiveness for the late-night shows. During his show Last Week Tonight, Oliver fumed that “it was frustrating to see the Harris campaign failed to formulate a response” on gender, “especially because it’s pretty easy to do”. Meyers was somehow even more dismissive: “Anyone suggesting Democrats could win elections by throwing trans people under the bus, let me just say: fuck off.”
Of course, the late-night hosts haven’t always held faultlessly liberal opinions. Back in 2013, both Stewart and Colbert were taken to task for jokes about “tranny hookers” and unconvincing transvestites. But over the last 10 years, all of them have fallen in line with the activist position on bathrooms, sports and child transition. In 2018, Colbert (then performing as himself rather than the Stephen Colbert character) confidently told his audience “gender is clearly a spectrum, we know this”. In 2022, Stewart made an episode of his Apple TV show The Problem With Jon Stewart that credulously repeated activist talking points about child transition.
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SubscribeLeftists have the Midas touch…only everything turns to a quite different ‘substance’ when they touch it.
If you give people a voice, and a choice, it turns out they aren’t on the far-left of anything. The days when the far-left, mistakenly called ‘liberals’ here, had a captive audience are gone. And people are choosing something else.
The left leaning commentators bemoaning the lack of critical thinking in the electorate, while spouting fallacies and still thinking they’re changing the world is risible.
In Britain we have (on the radio) James O’Brien, a legend in his own lunchtime, literally.
The best description of late-night “comedy” today is that it is a “KKK rally for liberals” .There is nothing funny in these shows if you are anywhere near the center politically, and certainly not if you are more conservative. The last shows worth watching was Leno. I never like Letterman, as he was too destructive.
Jon Stewart, fronting The Daily Show on Comedy Central, warned solemnly against rushing to take any lessons from the defeat.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the Dem Party. No, don’t try to learn a thing. Don’t try understanding that abortion was not among the top 5 priorities among normal Americans, let alone the leading issue. Don’t try to understand that a historically bad candidate is historically bad no matter her immutable characteristics. And above all, do not try to understand WHY someone like Donald Trump became not just possible, but also necessary. In that regard, you will have much in common with establishment Repubs.
From the quote, it says “warned solemnly against rushing”. I think those are wise words…don’t be reactionary, take time to think about what happened and why it happened. Singling out Stewart here is weird, because the other three hosts had reactions much more in line with your critique.
Excuse me? Excuse me? Did you just say “her immutable characteristics?” Have you not absorbed the Truth that We Are Who We Say We Are, and Oppressive Right-Wing Biology Be Damned?
Love the Peter Cook quote. Better than any of these ‘comedians’. If only he was here now – though he’d probably be in jail.
You’re right. However, firstly, he’d have a couple of police officers turning up on his doorstep accusing him of a non-crime hate incident for saying something forbidden.
It’s weird that all the late night guys share the same opinion on everything. There’s no way if you randomly select four Democrats, that they all agree with the trans agenda. There’s no way the audience shares uniform beliefs about the subject either. It’s like the Chinese cultural revolution – everyone is deathly afraid to step out of line.
They also have made a fortune. Quickest search engine estimates:
stewart 120 million
oliver 80 million
colbert 75 million
meyers 25 million
Their opinions are not just expedient, but lucrative.
It’s almost like that kind of wealth insulates a person from the utter nonsense that they put out!
These are the rich liberal elite hypocrites
You underestimate the power of Google search algorithms
I don’t think it’s so weird. The idea that the establishment consciously and semi-consciously use their influence and power to maintain a certain consensus makes a lot of sense. Especially in a democracy where more authoritarian methods cannot be used. This observation and criticism originally came from the left, for example, see Chomsky’s book Manufacturing Consent. Documentaries by Adam Curtis are also recommended. On top of that you have herd behavior, the fact that people live in bubbles, confirmation bias etc. It is not as if the ‘anti-establishment right’ is immune, this group often agrees on the entire package as well: cultural issues, climate, liberals, “government is the problem” etc. There was even a study that showed people tend to be very conformist in being non-conformists.
Anyway, broadly speaking I think that the biggest fear economic elites have is losing their power because of mass opposition. So in the end many of them don’t care that much in what people believe unless you believe in something that might seriously threaten them.
It’s a great case of audience capture. As the article says they used to have certain contrarian views. These have been ironed out by the loudest members of their own audienece threatening them with humiliation. Interesting that the article doesn’t mention Bill Marr but I guess that didn’t quite fit the script.
Bill Maher of course is the exception to the rule. But I thought it was interesting that ultimately he came out for Harris in the last days before the election. His function, I think, is to keep within the Democrats’ camp all those people on the Left who are sick and tired of the woke bullshit.
There’s no way if you randomly select four Democrats, that they all agree with the trans agenda.
I beg to differ. The Dem agenda requires complete and total submission to all aspects of the dogma. It makes radical Islam look moderate except for the violence. If one of these guys deviated, he would be branded a heretic, there would be protests outside of the studio, demands that advertisers boycott, and that the offender be fired.
Nah, this is just true for Dems with clout afraid of being “cancelled’. Myself, and quite a few people I know who have typically voted Democrat, switched to Trump this time around. I don’t follow any sort of agenda, and I don’t give a damn if people have a problem with me voting Trump. Not saying there aren’t people like that (there are plenty), but don’t lump us all together.
Great piece but as always from a leftwing writer the fatal flaw: man-made climate change. Assuming as all the lefty late-nighters that your view is the one everyone else believes, too.
A great article: thanks! In the UK, we have also seen “the merging of current affairs and comedy”. On BBC radio, so called “satirical” shows are just leftist propaganda. They poke fun at the Conservatives for being right-wing. Then, for “balance”, they poke fun at Labour for being right-wing.
I can’t remember the last time I watched one of those shows. They all have the same people on them agreeing with each other and none of them are very funny. In fact if you put Dara O’Brain and David Mitchell in the same room I imagine you’d achieve ‘The Smugularity’ and rip an unrepairable chasm in the space-reality continuum. Or the BBC, as I prefer to think of it.
They vote Labour or Green, wear Queers for Palestine shirts but let’s be honest most of them are secretly praying for a Tory win as a) not going to tax them anymore & b) gives them more of the same turgid, repetitive output for another few years.
Some of them might have voted Trump. The Biden family definitely did.
You are forgetting Paul Merton and Ian Hislop
Thanks! I had very successfully forgotten Merton and Hislop but now you’ve reminded me.
Sorry
Rapidly vanishing Boomers are the only ones still watching late-night shows—though rumor has it, certain circles of hell stream them too.
Yes but who watches these shows anymore?
These late-night reprobates are the maestros of the Democrats mass formation psychosis. They artfully employ their malignant narcissism to compose and spew narratives of liquid manure to a shrinking, hardened retinue. They fail to recognize their targets, Trump, Musk, Gabbard, RFK, Jr., et al, are ALL former Democrats. They have also failed to accept the tectonic media shift from push (broadcast TV, Cable, print) to pull (Websites, podcasts, social media) modalities. It’s bedtime for late-night.
“Anyone suggesting Democrats could win elections by throwing trans people under the bus, let me just say: f**k off.” So keep the trans people on the bus and keep losing elections?
Progressives have been spoon fed culture and public policy ideas from the comedy channel for a dozen years. What else do you need to know?
I agree that the liberal clowns on TV are unctuous, although occasionally funny but lacking any true wit. They will survive as their audience has no independence of thought. The woo hoo I could do without.
A lot of time has passed since the days of three channels and Johnny Carson. The legacy media audience has been shrinking for decades. First there was cable, then satellite, then the internet, talk radio, blogs, social media, smart phones, all the way up to the ongoing streaming revolution. The days of television and media as a unifying force in society are over. Jon Stewart and all the other late night hosts have a fraction of the audience that Leno and Letterman did. They are in the same media environment as everyone else, hanging onto a thin demographic by playing to the preconceived notions of that group. Only their own conceit and that of their bosses puts them on any sort of pedestal above Joe Rogan or Duck Dynasty or any of the near limitless entertainment and news choices on TV and everywhere else.
Put simply, they’re greatly overestimating their importance in a diverse entertainment and information landscape. Because Johnny and Jay used to be social icons who appealed to a diverse national audience, they imagine they inherit that legacy. In reality, the success of those entertainers and those shows were a product of the time, place, and circumstances, a function of limited media choices. The likes of Stewart and Colbert are equally a product of today’s fractured media environment. Today’s media landscape more accurately reflects the tremendous diversity and wide range of viewpoints in the USA. With literally thousands of voices, it’s nigh impossible for any one of them to dominate the narrative, whatever their delusions to the contrary.
Not exactly. Johnny and Jay were equally and mildly offensive to both sides. Everyone could enjoy the jokes since they didn’t cut to the quick. That’s seriously lacking since the late nighters have gone deep blue – except Gutfeld, who is right and funny.
One mistake:
“… quarrels with actuality — from the mysterious failure of WMD to materialise in Iraq, to the denial of man-made global warming”
AGW is a failed hypothesis which cannot explain the rise and fall of temperatures over the past 150 years, much less the past millenia. At most AGW accounts for a miniscule fraction of global warming. Sorry.
Read Judith Curry.
I suppose it’s natural for the late-night comedy audience to bask in the knowledge that they’re the Kool Kidz, unafraid to take it to the Man.
And I suppose it’s the job of the late-night hosts to encourage their audience in this fantasy.
The late night hosts are guilty of getting high on their own supply. This is true of the MSM cable casts as well. They are consistently losing ratings and will soon go the way of the dinosaurs. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan interviews Trump and it gets 40-50 million views. Not sure of the exact number, but it is staggering. Talk about reach.
I for one have given up on watching these late night used to be funny-men. Cause, they are not funny.
Truthiness. Mmmmmm. Something that feels like the truth but isn’t. Sounds like trans ideology would fit quite neatly into that box.
I can almost see Colbert slumped in an easy chair, still wearing his slick suit, tie loosened, scotch in hand, pondering that very thought.
And then reality sets in. No. That doesn’t happen. They just double down on their right think position. The liberal left is lost. And it saddens me to think that.
I don’t like comedians who shout. I can’t watch Stewart and Oliver for that reason apart from the fact that it’s satire not comedy. I prefer Kimmel’s style of humor.
Kimmel was funny …. when he was on the Man Show. Now he is an ass.
No he’s not.
It’s sarcasm. The lowest form of wit.
Late Night TV is still a business that needs to sell ad time, so it could be that these shows are becoming like golf tournaments on TV for decades… a small audience that advertisers will pay a premium to reach. Time sales is not just about ratings, it’s about reaching certain consumers too. These shows also emanate from LA and NY, where Democratic Party bullying and bribing are most pronounced.
I saw more introspection and reflection from American Leftists and Liberals in the day after the election than I ever did in all the years before it. If they had the slightest trace of that much self awareness back in 2016, Trump would probably have never been President. I’m not a Leftist, Liberal or American, so I have no skin in their game, but the idea that they should just go back to staying in their bubbles and refusing to learn anything is a self evidently stupid idea, especially when they are showing embryonic signs of taking an actual interest in the world around them and the problems the people in it face.
As when Biden showed his incompetence in the debate, the MSM had a brief and uncharacteristic burst of journalism, but after Trump’s landslide the most common excuse from the left was “racism and misogyny”, so NO, they haven’t learned.
It’s why ‘Wayne’s World’ was so prophetic, just swap local cable TV in the mid-90s for the Internet. Goofy, non- PC people being, er, entertaining on non-establishment platforms is popular. Who’d have thunk it?
Did Colbert, Kimmel, Meyers and Fallon kill the late-night talk show? No, they’re just carrion crows feeding off its corpse.
As to ‘what’ killed late-night comedy, I’d say it was fragile audience members believing their politics were not to be mocked and that they had a right not to be offended ….. and producers buying into that feeble idea.
Looking back across Biden’s term of office, there was potential comedy gold at every turn. Yet even the richest seams were left unmined as these deeply unfunny clowns were too afraid to dig – even a little. The satirists of the 1960s, 70s and 80s would hang their heads at the neo-puritanism, the homogeneity, and just the bloody cowardice of this crop of hosts who’ve infested our screens for the last several years. They’ve built their success on being happy to make fun of all the approved targets, whilst desperate to avoid making fun of ‘protected victim groups’, but these ‘comedians’ (to stretch the definition almost to breaking point) fail in one rather important area – THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT FUNNY.
In one respect you can’t blame these clapter-merchant hosts. They’d made a faustian pact – they got to keep an eye-wateringly well-paid gig just so long as they kept shilling for the establishment and never ventured an unapproved joke. If they hadn’t done it there would have doubtless been others lining up around the block to sell their soul.
What really exposed them was the Writers’ Strike, which showed the audience just how weak the hosts of late-night really are when robbed of slick presentation, a roomful of writers and expensive sets.
To keep themselves on-screen through the strike, Colbert, Kimmel, Fallon and Myers (which sounds like a provincial firm of solicitors) were joined by John Oliver, for a podcasting carnival of mediocrity they called Strike Force Five. It was a round-table zoom-call between the “kings of late night” that had production values lower than any conference call you’d see between middle management civil servants, and far fewer laughs – though it did serve one useful purpose, it saved a lot of time.
Instead of having to not watch these soulless idiots individually, I was able to not watch them all together, which freed up a whole chunk of my evening.
No doubt the late-night writers will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of 4 more years of “Orange Man Bad” jokes, but despite the strike, I’m sure AI could do a better job – and be funnier.
As with Liberal news channels, the Late-Night ratings are a pale shadow of what they once were, and when the audience goes, the advertisers follow. No doubt Network Execs will be frantically thinking what they can do to resuscitate the Golden Goose, how long before some young woke producer notices that all the hosts are middle-aged white men?
If they’re looking for unfunny replacements of colour, they’re absolutely welcome to Nish Kumar.
…and that Ranganathan chap.
The writer is blinded by her own biases, her own set of luxury beliefs. The audience for these shows are driven by class envy and status anxiety. Watching them is a religious exercise for those who substitute ideological certainties for propositions of faith.
I’ve written this before:
Everyone is obsessed with ‘politics’. It diminishes the complexity and subtlety of life. And it drives the rest of us crazy with boredom. I strongly suggest that late-night hosts, internet mavens, my own family members, etc. learn to live by a new rule: Always say at least one single thing that I haven’t already heard a thousand times before.
Please.
yes, absolutely. The confusion of “political comments” with “humor” is a huge error. Carson defined late-night shows. There were also several others who did late-night talk/interview shows. They all did humor, which was not political. Today’s late-night “comedians” are unwatchable.
Good article. We were avid watchers of all the comedic shows mentioned, and then some, for years. In addition to the laughs, it made one feel good to hear people on your side, to hear your “enemies” being skewered. I can’t remember when we stopped watching, but they just seemed to lose relevance. And, of course, with the ascension of Biden to the throne, that became ever more pronounced. When it became obvious that mainstream media shared the same view on just about every contentious issue, I gave up. It’s a pity if what you say is true, that all these folks are looking without and seeing a failed election in terms of what the other has or has not done. Democrats should be looking from within, and deciding on what sort of party they want to be.
Latina?
We used to love James Cordon. After Trump won in 2016 every monologue started with a snide commentary, It got to the point that we would turn him on, Cordon would skip onto the stage, and the first word out of his mouth ever night was “Trump…”, and we would fast forward with our DVR to actual comedy.
I used to love watching those shows during the first Trump administration, but then they reflected where I was at at the time; when Biden won, I was waiting for them to drop the obsessive focus on Trump and start taking the piss out of Biden . . . Never happened of course, and that’s when I switched off
I now understand why Bill Maher doesn’t get along with Colbert
You can’t write an article like this without discussing how Maher fits in. It’s absurd.
In the US, and increasingly in the UK, it’s now not so much the ‘stars’ playing to the gallery, but the gallery becoming part of the cast. It has a long history, easily trackable through I Love Lucy, Happy Days, Friends, and now these talk shows. Once the formula settles down and becomes ossified, the live audience self-selects, knowing its cues and its lines, and reflexively responding.
Stewart didn’t host The Daily Show since 1996. Craig Kilborn hosted first; during his tenure The Daily Show was a good satirical version of 20/20 or 60 Minutes. When Stewart took it over it became an anti-GOP / George W. Bush show. Stewart is the most irritating of the 3 late night hosts Sarah Ditum referenced; he wants to be taken seriously in his advocacy, but whenever he says something really moronic he’ll say something along the lines of “Hey, I’m just a comedian, nobody should take me seriously.” He deploys it to avoid criticism, but he doesn’t use it as a preface for his advocacy.
Trump has been criticized, rightfully, for being vulgar at times and for being inappropriate more frequently than that. But these foul dudes like Oliver and Stewart and the rest are crude, vulgar, and inappropriate as well. Kimmel and Colbert are so biased that it’s hard to believe that mainstream TV stations allow them to proselytize at that level.
These clowns lost their integrity a long, long time ago and it is about MONEY and EGO. Nothing else, and that is why not many folks are watching their crappy shows. Just like SNL, they have been bought and just sprew the propaganda that is handed to them.
Although “progressives” is used as a term of abuse by most readers of this site, I’d like to point out that progressives always win in the end. If that were not the case, we’d still be burning witches, enslaving Africans, denying women the vote, and people would still be dying of polio. But progress isn’t necessarily monotonic -it looks as though it will go into reverse for a few years now, but it will win in the end, as it always has in the past.
These show have audience sizes less than CNN and MSMBC. They haven’t been relevant for years.