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America will have to dodge the draft Military conscription would be unenforceable

NYPD officers stand guard as they prepare for a vigil at a recruiting office (Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images)

NYPD officers stand guard as they prepare for a vigil at a recruiting office (Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images)


September 16, 2024   5 mins

What do Napoleon, America’s Army War College and the liberal media have in common? The centuries-old belief that conscription is the “vitality of the nation”. With the US military hamstrung by a catastrophic personnel problem, the “draft” is being handed a new lease of life. Maybe, murmurs the DC think-tank circuit, conscription could provide America with the proverbial shot in the arm it needs: polarised internally and beset by a multitude of external challenges, the expedient of compelling young Americans to pick up rifles in service to their nation could kill two birds with one stone.

But almost all discussion of conscription today falls into a standard narrative, a just-so story that is both simple to grasp and seductively credible. America could have a draft if it wanted to, the story goes: no doubt it would work and be effective. The problem, however, is that people have grown too self-absorbed for such harsh measures. Previous generations worked hard and sacrificed willingly, while kids these days just want to play videogames.

Such a narrative is increasingly dangerous. The fatal issue with a potential draft is not that people would get very angry about it — though it’s fair to say that they probably would. The entire reason America abandoned the draft in the Seventies was because the Vietnam War was slowly tearing society apart, leading to protests, riots, and an epidemic of enlisted soldiers murdering their own officers. Any attempt to reinstate conscription would likely bring with it a “Vietnam syndrome” far worse than the original one. But in some ways that is beside the point.

Right now, even if America wanted a draft, the entire administrative apparatus required to actually implement it no longer exists. Just as Rome eventually forgot how to muster its legions or maintain its roads and bridges, so too has the US government forgotten how to quickly gather hundreds of thousands of men under arms. The systems necessary to do so have been destroyed through decades of malign neglect, and they probably can’t be brought back at all, let alone repaired on short notice.

“Even if America wanted a draft, the entire administrative apparatus required to actually implement it no longer exists.’

To understand just how impractical a draft is, it’s necessary to understand how it might work. Eligible Americans, upon reaching the age of 18, are supposed to be registered in the Selective Service System (SSS) database. Once a draft happens, the draftees chosen by lottery could then be sent notices, ordering them to report for service. When they have been given the chance to appeal or seek deferments, the remainder would report to the US military, which would train them and send them to war.

Today, every piece of this chain is broken beyond repair. The first step — the registration of eligible candidates — seems like it would be the easiest to get a handle on. But nothing could be further from the truth, for the simple reason that no single federal agency even attempts to keep an up-to-date record of every American’s actual place of residence. Take it from the horse’s mouth: according to the Chair of the House Armed Services Committee himself, “absolutely nobody” bothers to notify the SSS when they move.

Moreover, the SSS doesn’t even know whether the names they have on their lists are eligible Americans in the first place. As a result, it’s forced to rely on borrowing information from other federal and state agencies to figure out where young Americans live. But not only are states not required to keep address information up to date, but people who cannot be drafted, such as those with student visas, get included in these rolls. Moreover, several states, such as California, refuse to be a part of this system. Other states offer Americans the choice to put an “X” in the gender field on their driver’s licence, which excludes them from SSS data collection.

All of this might seem like a minor technical quibble, but it’s really not. The inability to actually keep track of where citizens live doesn’t just mean that people might be slow to show up to basic training — it would completely undermine the government’s ability to actually prosecute anyone for draft-dodging in the first place.

To pursue these draft-dodgers, the federal government would have to clear a legal bar that is essentially impossible to reach unless the draftee decides to wilfully self-incriminate. To wit, the government has to prove three things beyond a reasonable doubt: that it sent the notice to the correct address, that the draftee actually read the notice and understood its meaning, and finally, that he made a conscious decision to refuse to show up for service after having fully understood his responsibilities. Today, a majority of Americans are essentially immune to being prosecuted without any intention on their part: they’ve simply moved away from their parents without notifying the SSS, and now the government has no idea where they are. But even when the government does, it’s not a crime for parents to rip up induction notices. And if that doesn’t work, they could claim that the mailman hid it, or their dog ate it. The ability for the federal government to prove otherwise is essentially nil.

All of this was already a big enough problem during the Vietnam era, where the government could only manage to convict some 8,000 people for draft offences, out of a total caseload of nearly 600,000. The idea of today’s administration doing any better is laughable. In 2021, the SSS made almost 250,000 referrals to the Department of Justice for failures to comply with registration laws. The response from the DOJ was to announce that it had no intention of actually enforcing these laws, and that the SSS should stop asking them to.

But even putting the issue of sending draft notices aside, does the US military have the institutional capacity to absorb and train hundreds of thousands of recruits on short notice? Can America produce the additional equipment that would be needed to actually give the sons (and perhaps daughters) of America a fighting chance? Does America still have the ships and planes to transport all those draftees to where they would theoretically be fighting in, say, Asia? The answer to all of these questions is no.

The idea that everything is possible as long as you will it to be so is seductive, but it doesn’t match up with reality. To organise a draft, or repair a bridge, or build a fighter aircraft, you don’t just need a can-do attitude: you need institutional knowledge, you need money and resources, and you need people. For smaller countries such as Sweden, which already uses a draft, this is much less of a problem: there, the government hasn’t yet lost the institutional capacity to keep track of its citizens. But in America, that ship sailed years ago.

Indeed, even if the federal government were to try and force a draft into existence, the result would be disheartening. Inevitably, the burden would fall on local sheriffs and police departments, and trying to push through a blatantly illegal and unconstitutional draft would almost certainly guarantee that several states would refuse to comply. From that point, it would only take a handful of them to declare this new “streamlined” draft illegal, and offer up their own territory as safe havens from “federal tyranny”, for the US to descend into a constitutional crisis.

American pundits, think tanks, and government apparatchiks can complain all they like that the young aren’t conscientious enough to support a draft over Iran or Taiwan. But this is little more than projection. To truly understand why conscription is a non-starter, they need only look upon their own mighty works — and despair.


Malcom Kyeyune is a freelance writer living in Uppsala, Sweden

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Ardath Blauvelt
Ardath Blauvelt
2 months ago

The Vietnam draft was one of America’s worst ideas because it exempted the elites, the kids in college, who then went on to undermine the draftees. How ugly is that? Many of them have not improved with age, such as John Kerry.

How well would any western country fare with a military draft? We’ve all raised comfy, spoiled, developmentally arrested, elites.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
2 months ago

If you can’t find them, just ask Apple or Meta. They know where everyone is. AI can probably tell you where they will be tomorrow.

I’m only half joking about this. Really interesting essay though.

Derek Smith
Derek Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

You can add the dating app owners to that list.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
2 months ago

I think Malcom really glosses over the anger issue. Remember, how during the War on Terror there was the greatest influx of military volunteers to fight since the Second World War? What happened to them? Their government betrayed them, wasted resources on geopolitical games, and failed at almost every single stated goal. Now we have a military with serious recruiting problems and multigeneration military families are telling their sons and daughters not to follow in their footsteps.

Graham Stull
Graham Stull
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

Where there’s a will there’s a way.
The logistical problems Malcolm mentions are trivial compared to the fact that the denizens of the American Empire no longer support it or its purpose.
That said, I imagine the following scenario: Russia arms Venezuela with some hypersonic missiles and FABs etc., Maduro lobs a few of these at El Paso and Miami. Would that be enough to bring the country together and ignite a sense of patriotism?
Because if it did, I am sure the logistical problems would be solved (messily albeit) in record time. After all, Google knows every single thing about you, and just look how effective lockdown was when there was a will to do it.

Brett H
Brett H
2 months ago
Reply to  Graham Stull

I imagine their would be no logistical problem because the people would come to the defence of their country.

Andrew Vanbarner
Andrew Vanbarner
2 months ago
Reply to  Brett H

I imagine wealthy kids and young women, particularly from non military families, would spend a total of about zero seconds with boots and a rifle.

Brett H
Brett H
2 months ago

You may be right, but I imagine they represent a very small part of the population.

George Venning
George Venning
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

This is surely correct. If Americans could see that their help was being enlisted in a real fight against a real enemey that genuinely threatened harm to America then a draft would be both possible and unnecessary.
The very fact that a draft is even contemplated at a time when Kamala Harris was boasting (incorrectly) about there being zero American servicement in active engagement overseas is, frankly bonkers. How can you have a recruitment crisis when you are claiming that you aren’t fighting anyone?
The fact is that America isn’t remotely threatened. Its only near peers are the Russians and the Chinese and both are sufficiently nuclear armed that serious military conflict in any of the three homelands is unthinkable.
America’s military is not defensive (that’s what the nukes are for) it is intimidatory – it’s role is to tamp down regional conflicts far away. That isn’t a popular recruitment cause at the best of times.
Take that basic, unpalatable truth and add to it, America’s track record of bungled, and ineffective conflicts from Vietnam to the present day and it’s a wonder that anyone joins the US army at all.

William Shaw
William Shaw
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

There will never be a draft because if there was they would have to draft equal numbers of females (equality) and females risking their lives would never be acceptable.

Brett H
Brett H
2 months ago

First of all i’m heartened to know that the US government don’t know where it’s people are.
Re. conscription, if I was of the right age I would not go along with conscription from any government. I simply would not trust their reasons for going to war against what they may call the enemy, who in a few years time might be a trading partner or tourist destination. Unfortunately that means I would have to see the enemy on the beach before I respond. But still, I would not demand others go to fight on behalf of some shifty geo-political posturing.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
2 months ago
Reply to  Brett H

“War is a continuation of politics by other means”… Clausewitz.
That is, and has always been the case. However the rulers tell the ruled that wars are for right, justice, democracy..anything good, but the truth which is they are merely political manoeuvres.
The lies are comfort blankets for those who fight, and the families of those killed, in order that they can feel there was a true and just purpose to it. There never is.

Caradog Wiliams
Caradog Wiliams
2 months ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

And we always have God on our side.

hugh Bennett
hugh Bennett
2 months ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

“There never is” ???
Wrong… sometimes there is…tricky bit is sometimes time has to pass before the – “There is” is apparent. Pop back to 1939 Germany and ask a Jew.

Terry M
Terry M
2 months ago
Reply to  hugh Bennett

No need to go to 1939, there were plenty of Jews getting involved since October 8, 2023. Unfortunately, there are many as well who don’t seem to care if Israel will continue to exist.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
2 months ago
Reply to  hugh Bennett

1939 was probably the one exceptional “just” war, with a couple of truly dishonourable, evil regimes on the other side.

But, there was a dishonourable, evil regime on the good side as well, probably worse than Germany and Japan if anything, so war is always complicated I guess.

jane baker
jane baker
2 months ago
Reply to  hugh Bennett

It’s been eighty odd years and they never f*****g stop telling us,change the record will ya,Chaim

Nick Wade
Nick Wade
2 months ago
Reply to  hugh Bennett

Very few people knew about the Holocaust at the start of WW2. That’s not the reason we went to war. In any case, how many of his own people did Stalin our “ally” murder?

J. Hale
J. Hale
2 months ago

Most schemes for a new draft in the U.S. include the option for the young to serve in other organizations besides the armed forces. You can imagine some smart kid who wants to be a doctor choosing to work at a local hospital rather than going in the army. And of course, those with political connections will get preference for civilian organizations. So the possibility of a successful draft is even more hopeless than this article indicates.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
2 months ago
Reply to  J. Hale

Basically, well off kids, females and certain immigrant groups will simply refuse to join and find a way to escape the draft.

It will be primarily White and Black men from poorer families – which was, to be fair, to a large extent true even in the cold war. Difference is, this generation of kids in that social class, have grown up with poor education, lack of access to positive male role models and constant hatred from society for their “toxic” masculinity.
And they would know that once done, they will be dumped on the streets -see the large number of ex vet homeless, even with a small volunteer force.

Even if you convinced them to join, won’t be pretty matching them against peer enemy armies who are brought up better, and in a culture that respects male attributes and patriotism instead of maligning them.

Richard Bruce
Richard Bruce
2 months ago
Reply to  J. Hale

I am a volunteer member of a local Draft Board, have been for 20yrs. Article missed a few steps in the process. Someone who is drafted, must choose to accept or ask for a deferment. If accepted, draftee will take a physical: pass/fail. If a deferment is requested, the draftee must prove his case in front of a draft board. If denied, draftee can appeal to a different hearing board. This will take some time.
Big issue is the cost. The USA cannot afford adding tens of thousand into the military for a conventional war. The infrastructure doesn’t exists. The money doesn’t exist. The social turmoil a draft will create will tear the country apart. Those drafted will be the same demographic group that always fight our wars. Future problem is that those who serve are no longer passive in accepting their fate. Those who return from the fight will make displeasure with those who avoid service quite public.

Castor Bell
Castor Bell
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Bruce

Those who return from the fight will make displeasure with those who avoid service quite public.

In other words, they’ll bring the war back home with them. This is exactly what America needs! Where should I tell everyone to sign up?

Andrew Vanbarner
Andrew Vanbarner
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Bruce

“The same demographic group” that fought as conscripts in the last 3 major wars are unlikely to fight for racialist socialism, censorship, open borders, modern feminism, and a ruling elite that views them with contempt.
Why would they?

Liakoura
Liakoura
2 months ago

I’ve no idea how many 18 years olds there are the United States but in 2022, there were approximately 21.64 million people between the ages of 15 and 19.
Neither does the writer tell us how many recruits the current recruiters need although he does mention – “to quickly gather hundreds of thousands of men under arms”. Presumably that would also include women.
So if half a million are required over the first three years, that doesn’t seem to be an administrative task that’s impossible to achieve. 
And ‘Bounty hunting’ is legal in most of the USA.
Also, a few weeks ago I went with a friend to do the ridge walk on Changchong mountain. There’s a bit of a road walk at first after leaving the tiny bus station, down the hill towards us came several thousand high school and university students all dressed in camouflage uniforms of different shades of blue, (presumably so they’re more easy to find if they get lost). This was part of a curriculum subject called ‘Military Theory and Practice’ that lasts for 2 weeks. It was 25 minutes of a continuous stream of ‘marchers’ and a further 5 minutes or so for the stragglers, before we came across the final group of a dozen or so sitting with their ‘guard’ at a café.
About 35% of China’s 2 million military personnel are conscripts serving for two years.
https://www.trip.com/travel-guide/attraction/kunming/changchong-mountain-ecology-park-15304393

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
2 months ago

I don’t agree that it is impossible for a large country like the US to keep a basic overview of where its citizens are. You could, for example, tie a current and accurate registration of your primary address to the ability to get other, important things in your life done (voting, opening a new bank account, registering with a new doctor etc.). That would probably move people to keep their registrations up to date.
The biggest stumbling blocks to this are cultural attitudes to state control and supervision of its citizens – which, in traditionally very liberal countries like the US and Britain, are quite neuralgic. It’s incompatible with their basic idea of a state’s relationship to its citizens.
When I first moved to Austria, I found it weird that I had to register myself here, there and everywhere and that carrying an ID card around with you just in case the police stopped you was completely normal. It’s just part of the social contract and the deal you accept when you live here.

Brett H
Brett H
2 months ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I can’t think if a good enough reason for a government to know where people are at all times. More importantly, my feeling is that the social contract has been broken, I’m sure you didn’t mean neuralgic, but i’m not sure what you did mean.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
2 months ago
Reply to  Brett H

I did mean neuralgic, as in pain felt along a nerve. And your response to my thoughts underlines the reason why I used that word. I am guessing from your name that you come from the liberal Anglosphere where the state (traditionally at least) generally lets its citizens get on with their lives undisturbed and so the thought of a state knowing where you are/being able to verify your identity at any point messes with your central systems of understanding about what a state should and shouldn’t be able to do.
I’m used to another system now and find the British/American approach to such things slightly hysterical and under-organised.

Nick Faulks
Nick Faulks
2 months ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Neuralgic is the perfect word. Thinking about state control of my life is like the worst pain you get in the dentist’s chair.

AC Harper
AC Harper
2 months ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Perhaps, if you squint, the USA and the UK are based on Common Law where you may do anything that is not forbidden but in the EU, based on Roman Law, you may do only what is permitted? Roman Law implies that the State needs to know where you are and what you do in case you are doing something ‘not permitted’.
Of course you could argue that the global elite are keen to remove traditional liberties based on Common Law… just look at the desire to control what may be spoken freely.

Ian Wigg
Ian Wigg
2 months ago
Reply to  AC Harper

I’m not certain that the US is based on commom law in that you can only do what is permitted by the constitution rather than simply anything which is specifically proscribed. Also is the US legal system based on the principle of precedent as is the case in the UK?

Terry M
Terry M
2 months ago
Reply to  Ian Wigg

The US Constitution is a restraint on the government, not the people. And, yes, it is based on precedent, but the Supreme Court can overturn precedent.

Richard Bruce
Richard Bruce
2 months ago
Reply to  Ian Wigg

USA legal system is based on a combination of English Common Law, French Civil Law, and Constitutional powers application. Each state have different emphasis. Even the federal legal system apply laws differently among the various district and appellant courts.

laurence scaduto
laurence scaduto
2 months ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

In the US we have, thankfully, fifty separate States. Each is a potential wrench in the works.
If ever there was an honest accounting of where masks were actually being worn during the pandemic, as opposed to where they were “mandated”, I think you would see my point. Much of the US just quietly ignored such mandates.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
2 months ago

I certainly did.

Terry M
Terry M
2 months ago

Not enough people ignored the mandates. And many, led by VP candidate Walz, encouraged people to rat out the offenders. It was an awful display of sheep and rats.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
2 months ago

“forgotten how to quickly gather hundreds of thousands of men under arms”
So it ls men now, eh? Or rather, mostly working class white men.
“Thank you, Mister Atkins, when the band begins to play.”

Plus ça change, indeed. We saw exactly the same in Ukraine, home to some indomitable feminists. Atl the way upto the point when the Russians arrived. Then it was all Oleksandr Atkinsovich.

But might be a tad more difficult this time. At least in 1914, or 1939, or 1805, it wasn’t made as brutally clear to these young lads just how much contempt was reserved for them by society.

David L
David L
2 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Indeed. Especially as it’s become undeniable that that the real enemies of the white working class resides and Washington, or London.

Steven Carr
Steven Carr
2 months ago

So 15,000 Haitians are in one small town in Springfield, and the citizens of that town are supposed to be told to join the army and defend the Haitians?
It’s never going to work.

Steven Carr
Steven Carr
2 months ago

‘ Today, a majority of Americans are essentially immune to being prosecuted without any intention on their part: they’ve simply moved away from their parents without notifying the SSS, and now the government has no idea where they are. ‘
But obviously all the elections are totally honest, as nobody can vote in a state they do not live in.

AC Harper
AC Harper
2 months ago

Let me see…
According to the article the draft would be a non-starter because the bureaucratic infrastructure is no longer there.
There’s a small but growing movement to persuade people that university courses are not worth the money.
Religion in the USA is still strong but growing weaker and the ‘nones’ are increasing.
Many bridges are dangerous because no money has been spent on maintenance.
Presidential election shenanigans have exposed how valued ‘democracy’ has become.
Who would enthusiastically join the military if they could avoid it? There’s no American Dream to underpin it.

Walter Lantz
Walter Lantz
2 months ago

Interesting points made about the logistical problems of re-instating the Draft. I would add that the reasons Western militaries are having issues with recruitment and retention would add to the unviability of a Draft program.
The Draft was based on an economic class system. Abled bodied young men that weren’t doing anything particularly important economically or intellectually were the first to go. As Steve Earle sings in Copperhead Road: “I volunteered for the Army on my birthday. They draft the white trash first ’round here, anyway”. Not to mention the large numbers of young black men.
What would the Draft look like in this age of identity politics? Would there be quotas so that minorities are not ‘overrepresented’? Would low-income whites, a group openly shamed, scorned and disparaged by progressives, make up the bulk of the numbers?
Military recruitment is suffering for several reasons but the decision by some leaders to bend towards a more progressive culture hasn’t helped. An effective – meaning dangerously effective – military can’t abide notions of equity like DEI hiring or “every child gets a prize”. So-called “toxic masculinity” is a feature, not a bug, when it comes to dirty work at the sharp end.

Peter B
Peter B
2 months ago

Interesting hint in this article – perhaps all you need do to avoid being drafted is self-identify as female.

laurence scaduto
laurence scaduto
2 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

Please don’t say this out loud again.

Rob N
Rob N
2 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

I read that, a few years ago, the Biden admin confirmed that trans identifying men are still subject to the draft but trans identifying women are not.

Andrew Vanbarner
Andrew Vanbarner
2 months ago
Reply to  Rob N

A federal judge ruled a few years ago that females should, legally, be required to register for the draft, but stopped short of ordering that done.
It would be the height of hypocrisy to order only young men to their deaths, while insisting that young women are their full equals.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
2 months ago

What the author didn’t mention is that historically some of America’s best and more devote fighters came from the southern regions of the country settled by immigrants of ‘fighting mad’ cultures like Scots-Irish. These cultures had generation after generation participate in the military culture. Today, this ‘white male’ constituency has been greatly disparaged in today’s woke culture for being white and (real) male. They have no interest in fighting for this Democrat-made culture. Even today’s military leaders are woke. So their families are telling them to stand down. Hence, the reason why there has been an annual decline of about 15k volunteers.

Rufus Firefly
Rufus Firefly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

Not only from the South, but a demographic map of the Medal of Honor winners starts in western Pennsylvania and continues down the Appalachian chain into Georgia – settled by Scots, Irish, and Scots-Irish. A culture that prizes raw physical courage. Starting with the Regulator Rebellion of 1771 they’ve provided a hard corps of the American military. But today? These men feel like the American experiment has turned against them. It’s not a new thing. Letters home from the Civil War by my ancestor reveals an anger about fighting for wealthy bankers and land owners who are safe at home. My father expressed similar sentiments about his time in Vietnam. And lately I’ve seen several articles about whether American should continue being the world’s policeman. I’d say the majority of young men would not want to fight other peoples’ wars no matter how it was dressed up in legacy media. We are well on our way to becoming what Osama bin Laden described as the “weak horse” of international affairs.

Michael Daniele
Michael Daniele
2 months ago

I enjoyed the hat-tip to Ozymandias.

Dave Walsh
Dave Walsh
2 months ago

Nobody in the United States is seriously considering bringing back the draft.

Think tanks are like fashion houses. Their ideas are haute couture items that no one will ever wear. They might influence the cerulean blue of your sweater but everyone is still going to be wearing sweaters.

Rob N
Rob N
2 months ago

It would not solve the draft problem but I think it is time for some radical policies. How about no right to vote or receive benefits unless you have given birth to at least 1 child (and have 2 more within 6 years) and/or spent 5 years in the military and stay in the reserves till 40? Limited, of course, to native born citizens.

Would at least mean those willing to fight for or populate their country got some reward compared to the selfish takers.

Terry M
Terry M
2 months ago
Reply to  Rob N

Jawohl, mein Führer!

Philip Hanna
Philip Hanna
2 months ago
Reply to  Rob N

Haha this is so insane, don’t even know where to start.

Rob N
Rob N
2 months ago
Reply to  Philip Hanna

So explain why you think people not willing to fight for their country etc should get to decide whether or not it goes to war.

Richard Ross
Richard Ross
2 months ago

Great article, and very hard to disagree with anything in it. Except the ability to track the location of any putative conscriptee.
4 years ago we saw how the social media giants fell in line with what Government asked them to do, and practically no one is exempt from surveillance by the Great Eye of Google et al. How much easier (and more useful) will their compliance be this time?

Jacques Rossat
Jacques Rossat
2 months ago

Frightening but fantastic article !To imagine a modern state not knowing who and where its citizens are is surrealistic.

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor
2 months ago

Finding everyone is easy. The universal identifier in the US is the Social Security number. Almost every citizen and legal resident has one. The credit bureaus harvest every single one of those numbers and they update the corresponding address data constantly. Driver’s licenses are similarly almost a de facto nationwide ID too. When you move to a new address or state you need a new driver’s license, or you’re handicapped at whatever you try to do.
Then add in all the online databases, especially those like Palantir and Google and anonymity these days is almost an oxymoron. The article was interesting, but the basis of its pessimism is overdone.

Philip Hanna
Philip Hanna
2 months ago
Reply to  Anthony Taylor

Agreed, I don’t think it would be hard for the USA to gather a few hundred thousand draftees if there were ever a situation dire enough for such a program to even be instated.

Chuck Burns
Chuck Burns
2 months ago

Why would anyone in their right mind get involved with the present-day woke military and the woke bureaucrats who control the military? The Neo-Cons have no concept of the value of human life. Ukraine is a glaring recent example. Fight to the last Ukrainian indeed! Lindsey Graham let the cat out of the bag when he started dreaming of getting access to the trillions of dollars in natural resources up for grabs in Eastern Ukraine.

Emmanuel MARTIN
Emmanuel MARTIN
2 months ago

Pure BS. So much BS it reads like an immigration article. Yet it is incidentally correct.
The IRS is perfectly able to track almost every american and punish those who try to default on their obligations.
When there is a will, there is a way. Yet the elephant in the room, which you conveniently forget, is that there is no will.
I think Vietnam planted the seeds of a collapsed America. Because upper class city dwellers dodged the draft, and got away with it. We would have the same issue if the draft was reinstated, numerous demographics would dodge the draft agressively and the resentment against clandestine passengers would undermine the legitimacy of the draft, and of the state itself.
This is not an insolvable problem though, Switzerland solved it through a “military tax” levied on whoever was not drafted, for whatever good or bad reason.

mac mahmood
mac mahmood
2 months ago

The problem with the ‘war on terror’ is that it is not a war on terror, but a war to protect the terrorists.
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Paul Rodolf
Paul Rodolf
2 months ago

I wouldn’t mind compulsory service after high school with no option for college deferment. That gives all young people a common experience and helps to orient people who need direction. Another two years of maturity prior to college is bound to provide positive impacts. Any war we commit to must include the sons and daughters of all sitting politicians, no exceptions or exemptions.

Michael Clarke
Michael Clarke
2 months ago

This piece demonstrates very well how the US, its society and the Republic, have changed since the early 1960s. People throughout most of the Western world, but particularly the middle class (to say nothing about the really privileged), have no interest in the duties but only the privileges of citizenship. The idea of bringing back the draft in any country that has dispensed with it is a joke.

Brett H
Brett H
2 months ago
Reply to  Michael Clarke

If the government was more honest and represented the people in a more genuine way than treating them as dupes they might take their “duties” more seriously.

ELLIOTT W STEVENS
ELLIOTT W STEVENS
2 months ago

Here’s another take…I would NOT ALLOW my son to register for, submit to, or fight in the US military for ANOTHER war on foreign soil for a cause that has little or nothing to do with the defense of his country or nation. And there are many, many more that intend on doing the same. And for context, I’m a former Marine. Not some patchouli smelling hippie.

Bernard Brothman
Bernard Brothman
2 months ago

As I understand the current state of our young men (as women are exempt from the draft), with many overweight, many not physically fit, many lacking an effective high school education (they may graduate, but their skills are below their peers of the last century), many depressed, many with substance abuse issues, and many with criminal records, that the US military has had to lower its standards to enlist recruits, and still misses its targets.
At the beginning of the Ukraine War, and at the beginning of the Gaza, polls conducted here in the United States showed that large numbers of young people would not serve. The reasons vary including developing PTSD, getting disabled, or simply not wanting to support what the United States has become to them.

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
2 months ago

I think conscription is a very interesting phenomenon, philosophically speaking, because while it may have worked in the past—just as many things have—there are few key aspects we are overlooking today: financial, health issues, and the trust between people not to mention trust with the institutions. Every insurance company knows where you are if you are a driver or Google knows as someone mentioned. But more than that, offer them 100K a year for life to lure them. Offer them unlimited health benefits (since the gig is up and everybody knows what happens to veterans when they get injured and suffer PTSD). But the biggest factor is trust—who would want to go to war alongside someone who doesn’t want to be there? and who would ever trust government since Iraq war and Covid era! but maybe paying them appropriately and providing real health benefits may create a new industry of crippled but compensated.

Francis Turner
Francis Turner
1 month ago

Talk to our Afghanistan and Iraq erstwhile serving soldiers and officers about US army competence, committment, command and control, resiliance.. and they were volunteers!

Ann Morrison
Ann Morrison
1 day ago

America already has a draft.
It’s a POVERTY DRAFT.
Life is so difficult here that people join the military because it gives them a job and some security.
Rich people haven’t joined the military in any number ever since Viet Nam.
The Viet Nam protests only really got going when they removed the “college deferment” (exempt from conscription while attending university) element of the draft.
The university left movement of the 60’s HATED the working class & treated the poor kids coming back (after getting DRAFTED) like shit.
So
We went to an “all volunteer army” – aka POVERTY DRAFT.