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Britain’s future is Pagan We have been severed from our English roots

We aren't all New Age hipsters. Andre Coelho/Getty Images

We aren't all New Age hipsters. Andre Coelho/Getty Images


April 1, 2024   5 mins

The West Country is better known for Poldark’s smoulder than the fires of Paganism. But, as a local Heathen priest, I can assure you that the Pagan revival down here is in full swing. Just last week, a builder working next door to me announced that he was a Druid, while a man I hired to fit some floorboards revealed that he, like me, worships the Germanic gods of our Anglo-Saxon ancestors. The most recent census found that the number of Pagans in England and Wales had risen from 57,000 in 2011 to 74,000 — and that they cluster in Ceredigion, Cornwall and Somerset.

The native form of Paganism specifically practiced by the English is variously termed “Asatru”, “Heathenry”, “Fyrnsidu”, “Odinism” or “Wodenism”. And by and large, we get along with everyone. Times have changed since the Witchcraft Act of 1735, which was repealed in 1951, and modern Britons are more likely to find the idea of 21st-century Paganism mildly amusing, rather than terrifying or offensive. Yet there are still some among our compatriots who feel threatened by our faith. As a YouTuber and pagan priest, I receive hundreds, if not thousands, of comments each year from furious Christians.

For the most part, I suspect that they are simply unaware of the central tenets of our tradition or the strict rules that govern our rites. They are naturally frustrated to see people reject the empty atheism of our age, not in favour of England’s traditional religion of the last 1,200 years, but for what they see as a New-Age fantasy based on arbitrary superstitions and whims. I doubt, however, that many of them have ever met a real Pagan.

I first encountered Paganism in my early twenties, when, disillusioned by the atheism of my adolescence, I began an extended period of spiritual exploration. During that time, I would often peer through the gates of the 17th-century Trinity Green Almshouses in London’s East End, where the Heathen religion was revived in the Seventies. I was, however, initially hesitant to embrace Paganism because of the eccentricity of the Pagans I had met. At one neo-pagan event in the woods north of London, the publicity officer was a professional Boris Johnson impersonator wearing a cloak and tiara who called himself Druid Galdron. Suffice it to say, it wasn’t the Pagans who drew me to Paganism. Yet I eventually decided that any social cost was worth paying in exchange for a closer relationship with the gods. And so I reverted to the native faith of the English people.

I soon found out that exchange lies at the heart of Heathenry — so much so that some have scornfully described our interactions with the divine as “transactional”. We worship through sacrifice which we call “blōt”, a word used in Old English and Old Norse to denote sacrifice and worship. Traditionally, blōt was focused on animal sacrifice but also on libations of alcoholic drinks. Today, a combination of ethical and practical considerations lead us to focus on the latter. When we sacrifice, we emulate the actions of our creators; Odin, also called Woden, and his brothers who shaped this world through sacrifice. The offering is an act of devotion to what is higher, but it also raises the worshipper who participates in the original divine action that brought our cosmos into being. We believe we are completing a sacred cycle that Woden himself has taught us.

At a time when globalisation and technology are challenging our sense of space and belonging, this rootedness of Heathenry in the English context is highly appealing. We worship the same gods as our ancestors, and our rites are observed in sympathy with the cycles of the natural world around us. This worldview naturally encourages an appreciation for the land through a sense of sacred space, rooting the worshipper both in their own regional history and in nature. The sacred centre of the world for us is neither Mecca nor Jerusalem, but the old oak forests and burial mounds of this island. The feet of a popular Palestinian carpenter are less likely than Woden’s to have walked in ancient times upon England’s mountains green. By contrast, our oaks are holy to the thunder god, Thunor. At the rising sun, which heralds spring, we worship the goddess of the dawn, Easter. In ancient burial grounds, we venerate our ancestors who endured countless winters on this sceptered isle.

In many ways, English Heathenry is unique to this land and its history. The philosopher and historian of religion, Mircea Eliade, wrote that: “for those to whom a stone reveals itself as sacred, its immediate reality is transmuted into supernatural reality.” This was true in the 11th century — when King Cnut denounced those Anglo-Danes who worshipped the sun, moon, fire or flood — and it is true now. Certain ancient stones, particularly megalithic monuments such as Adam’s grave (formerly Woden’s grave) in Wiltshire and Wayland’s Smithy in Oxfordshire, were once regarded as sacred by Heathens, and still are. The same applies to sacred wells and other waters. The dirty old Thames for us carries more than filth — it is a boundary between our world and the underworld (no, I don’t mean South London). It is the door through which our ancestors passed gifts of weapons to the gods and the dead, and it is every bit as sacred as the Ganges.

“English Heathenry is unique to this land and its history.”

Admittedly, a significant portion of Britons professing Paganism today are indulging in a kind of New-Age counterculture. But there are many others, including myself, who are only seeking to know and propitiate the gods as our forebears did. We are not hippies and our religion doesn’t involve drugs, raves or getting naked — rather, we hold formal gatherings at which we not only pour libations to the gods but also drink to the health of King Charles III. The reason for this is that England’s tradition of monarchy derives from that of the early English Heathens. The King — as a descendent of Woden — remains a divinely-assured figurehead of our people.

All this goes to show that, while too small to rival the infrastructure, community and glorious architecture of the Church of England, Heathenry offers something the church can’t: an authentic bond with the land and a spiritual identity that is rooted in the familiar. I know we are all expected to sing the praises of globalisation. But such optimism is an extravagance beyond the means of those who have seen their rural towns fall to ruin, and had their complaints fall upon the deaf ears of our political representatives. Can they be blamed for looking backwards?

The call of Paganism is thus hard to resist. The enduring popularity of the medieval fantasy genre, and the rise of an entire internet subculture of Viking-related communities, are testament to the deep yearning many still have for something ancient they feel has been lost. We have been severed from our roots by the axe of modernity, while the information revolution has democratised the myths, spells and ancient rites of Heathen times, formerly the reserve of privileged academics. In the years ahead, the dramatic social changes which will rock Britain — from genetic engineering to artificial intelligence — may push more Britons into the arms of the gods. We have much to ask them for. To those who doubt that Paganism in Britain can be reconciled with the protean technological innovations of tomorrow: who but Woden himself could have foreseen that the internet would facilitate the revival of his cult in 21st-century England?


Tom Rowsell is a historian and documentary film-maker who runs the Survive the Jive YouTube channel. He is also a Heathen priest, living in Devon.

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Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
8 months ago

Who but Woden himself could have foreseen that the internet would facilitate the revival of his cult in 21st-century England?

As the ascendancy of the printing press gave rise to all manner of stupid superstitions, so too has the internet.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
8 months ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

This is the problem i have with this article, if not paganism itself. The writer is projecting onto an ancient belief system and over-reaching himself.

I can go along with the sense of ‘something being lost’ and feel there’s spiritual nourishment in nature, landscape and tradition. This in no way induces me to wish to ‘worship’ ancient human deities. Neither is it necessary, or even advisable, to do so.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Basically it’s an impossibility.

I work with ceremonial stuff and exorcisms from the 18th century sometimes. It is fiendishly difficult. Yet the people who wrote that stuff were from the same religion I grew up in. And we have thousands of pages of their notes.

But it isn’t much help. We just cannot sufficiently put ourselves into the mindset of people from that era.

And, if we can’t do the 1770s, we certainly can’t do the 970s.

I think, among other things, the advent of the camera profoundly altered human self-perception and conceptions about the world.

I see the faces in colourised pics from the American Civil War and there’s just about the feeling that they have the same kind of conceptions as we do. Just about. It’s a thin strand. It’ll snap itself in a few years. Think that is about as far back as we are able to currently go.

Freemasonry (which neo-paganism is descended from) actually tells you in re-enactment or parable, that the ‘real secrets’ are lost.
And so those that are given to you are ‘substitute secrets’.
It’s a tangible warning that the substitutes, weak as they are, are what we have to make do with, rather than risk the dangers in trying to revive something older.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
8 months ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Thanks, not sure why I received so many downvotes for my comment. With the growing prevalence of printing presses in the 1600s literacy rates grew, but so too did the number of people who started to believe in demons and witches, thus giving rise to the holy wars and witch burnings that plagued Europe in the 17th century.
The internet is acting much the same way. Our digital literacy has increased but so too has the number of people who believe in whacky science and conspiracy theories.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Holy wars started in the 17th century. Check. Remind me when the Crusades were again?

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Far better in the Middle Ages, when there was only one stupid superstition, promulgated by the Christian Church.

Max Price
Max Price
8 months ago

All warm and cuddly until different pagan cult starts sacrificing people to ward off climate catastrophe.

Michael K
Michael K
8 months ago
Reply to  Max Price

They’re already planning that. Half the world’s food production relies on fertilisers made with fossil fuels.
If we really did ‘Just Stop Oil’ it would kill billions.

Dr E C
Dr E C
8 months ago
Reply to  Michael K

That is totally inaccurate scaremongering. You clearly know nothing about agriculture.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Max Price

Perhaps not people, but surely a few goats?

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith
8 months ago

No drugs, raves or getting naked? b****r it then, I can’t be bothered. Thanks for keeping the tradition alive… April Fool’s Day, I mean.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago

How can one ‘revert to the native faith of the English people’ by picking up something that started in the late 1940s and which is full of New Thought and masonic influences ?

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 months ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

Not a single reference to Celtic tradition in the whole story. This story is written within an English context.

HerewardTheWake
HerewardTheWake
8 months ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

What are you talking about?

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago

I’d ask the same of you.

HerewardTheWake
HerewardTheWake
8 months ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

Well you appear to assert that our indigenous traditions began in the 1940s…? So I repeat, what are you talking about?

Chris Amies
Chris Amies
8 months ago

Wicca, Doreen Valiente and Gerald Gardner, and what Hutton describes in “The Triumph of the Moon,” I imagine. And the trail left by Crowley (Aleister, not Vivienne), while trying to ignore the human-sacrifice bits in Frazer’s “Golden Bough.”

Lowell Huesers
Lowell Huesers
8 months ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

Actually, the more likely outcome is England becomes Muslim. Believing in nothing leads to a crisis of meaning, which Islam has an answer for. The Christian denominations of England don’t really believe in much these days but Islam, which is currently unassailable, has very strong beliefs.

AC Harper
AC Harper
8 months ago

The desire for the Sacred (sometimes the Holy) is very strong in some people. It is fulfilled by many, sometimes competing, beliefs.
Bless their hearts.

Neiltoo .
Neiltoo .
8 months ago

I wonder if the author was aware that this would be published on April 1st!

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago
Reply to  Neiltoo .

Woden seems not to have briefed him appropriately.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
8 months ago
Reply to  Neiltoo .

Haw, haw, haw. Of course he did!

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago

I trust that POLICE SCOTLAND will be monitoring ALL comments on UnHeard for any deviant opinions or so called HATE crimes.

Gordon Black
Gordon Black
8 months ago

Yep, the McStasi were round this morning handing out the clype/snitch/grass-up forms.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
8 months ago
Reply to  Gordon Black

At the risk of what-about-ism, what about that 600k and the deluxe motor home in the driveway?

Glynis Roache
Glynis Roache
8 months ago

It is inevitable that many will find this article risible. Many find the idea of any gods/greater power risible. We have just celebrated Easter. Illness precluded a trip to church but my husband and I would probably have gone. One option open to us is a local abbey. We would have relished the architecture and the atmosphere. Yet, there would have been a strange, deep seated wish that Christianity hadn’t happened in another, drier land and doesn’t ostensibly offer a route to the heart through the things that would most likely resonate with us. 
   For around ten years after graduating, we both worked as large animal vets. In an era of many more individual farms, our practice cars did an average of eighty thousand miles a year each, travelling at all times of the day and night and all weathers across pastureland and moorland and cliff top, through woodland and bracken, passing peat bogs and Dartmoor tors. We witnessed nature as both wildly beautiful and unthinkingly cruel. In our job, more frequently than one would have liked, gory wouldn’t be too strong a word to use. Don’t ask for specifics unless you have a very strong stomach indeed. Evolution and nature are both dog eat dog businesses. As the modus operandi of a Christian god, both are hard to reconcile with the concept of love.    
    Hildegarde von Bingen managed it. As a twelfth century abbess she used the concept of viriditas as a metaphor for spiritual and physical health – a kind of holy greening power. As a gardener, I get it. As a soul, I find wilder gods easier to understand. Do I want to worship them? No. Acknowledge them? Possibly. I once read a quote that I am unable to attribute but which maybe sums up my vacillations: 
‘Call me by any name, picture me in any form, for all names and all forms are mine.’
   Life itself has intervened in many forms since our days in practice. Some good, some bad, some extremely odd. In old age, we count ourselves fortunate to have a few acres of England that we can call our own including a huge old oak tree just yards from the front door. 
     Atheism provides more scope for sophistication and intellectual superiority than does belief. It must be satisfying to wholeheartedly embrace it. I can’t. Science doesn’t have all the answers and I doubt it ever will. I sit beneath the oak tree and ponder and I won’t scoff at the man who wrote this article.
     Thank you to Unherd for publishing it.

Lou Davey
Lou Davey
8 months ago
Reply to  Glynis Roache

Thank you, Glynis, for this thoughtful reply – I actually enjoyed reading it more than the article itself (not that I’m scoffing at the man who wrote it).

J Bryant
J Bryant
8 months ago
Reply to  Glynis Roache

Outstanding comment.

Adrian C
Adrian C
8 months ago
Reply to  Glynis Roache

Well said.

Howard Jones
Howard Jones
8 months ago

A couple of points to quibble with, a) Christianity was here first. We were Roman before we were Anglo-Saxon (ask King Arthur). Christianity became the official religion of the empire by 380 AD so there were have been a lot of Christian Romano-Britons. (the place name Eccles relates to latin Eccelsia e.g. the location of a church)
b) I love the ‘ethical’ considerations that preclude animal sacrifice! Which ethics, obviously not pagan? The RSPCA was founded by Wilberforce the Christian reformer, not a by the pagans. Sacrifice requires blood, everyone knows that!
Enjoyed the article but I will stick with the older religion of England’s green an pleasant land!

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
8 months ago
Reply to  Howard Jones

There were Druids here before the Romans.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
8 months ago

And the Romans were pagan before they were Christian! Next Howard will be claiming that all our ancient stone circles were placed there by god to test our faith! You’re starting to sound a bit like a Jehovah’s Witness, Howard!

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago

But no-one knows what the Druids believed.

What we do know without a doubt, is that there is ZERO link between them and anything called pagan today.

mike otter
mike otter
8 months ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

Pretty sure James Fraser’s Golden Bough is nearer the mark than most, he tracks the known evidence of his time (Late c19th) and tests it against what they knew then about pagan antiquity – across europe as a whole. The pre-Christians had a long and well developed history which was much more in tune with our lives than the screwball wackos of Abrahamic religion, none of which are compatible with peace, and only one, Islam, is compatible with scientific Mertonian norms.

Ruari McCallion
Ruari McCallion
8 months ago
Reply to  mike otter

Quite an… Original analysis.

Almost as if the writer had never heard of Copernicus, Newton, Mendel, Pavlov, Lemaitre, vulcanology, etc, etc.

Nor of the destruction of ancient monuments & artefacts by barbarians on the basis that they are “unIslamic”.

Might be a troll or a parody, I suppose.

R Wright
R Wright
8 months ago

The point I believe is that the author is confusing Anglo-Saxon paganism and ‘Celtic’ Brythonic paganism. Christianity was in the British Isles centuries before Woden was worshiped by the invading settlers.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago

Until one Gaius Suetonius Paulinus sorted them out in about 60AD*.

(*Otherwise known as 813 AUC.)

HerewardTheWake
HerewardTheWake
8 months ago
Reply to  Howard Jones

Germanic paganism is a cousin of the celtic, iron age culture/religion that was here before the Romans (and the Romans were pagan when they first arrived too). It is also a direct descendant of the beaker folk who were here in the bronze age. Paganism was here thousands of years before Christianity.

Thomas K.
Thomas K.
8 months ago

Part of the problem stems from using a Christian term to describe all non-Christian beliefs as a definitive moniker to describe a singular religion. It’d be like claiming I’m a devout adherent of the faith of ‘Miscellaneous’.

HerewardTheWake
HerewardTheWake
8 months ago
Reply to  Thomas K.

I agree, but when talking about English paganism you can deduce that it is of the Germanic type

Robert Stone
Robert Stone
8 months ago
Reply to  Howard Jones

Why does age matter? People thought the Sun went round the Earth before Copernicus: does that make them right? For that matter Judaism preceded Christianity, which preceded Islam – and Hinduism is older than all of them. That doesn’t make any of them more worthy of respect than any of the others

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  Robert Stone

Aristarchus of Samos* proposed the heliocentric model more than a thousand years before.

(c310-c 230 BC, or alternatively c443-523 AUC.)

Foster Bennington
Foster Bennington
8 months ago
Reply to  Howard Jones

The Romans were not always Christian, old Emperor Hadrian who built the wall certainly was not. King Arthur certainly was not either (if you know you know). This is not even to mention the Britons before the Romans ever came along.
The RSPCA are not the inherent ethical authority on animal treatment, those are easily developed without any knowledge of their guidelines. In regards to blood, is the blood of Christ that you drink literally blood? Is his flesh literally flesh? Such substitutes have always existed in ritual and even appear in Myth.
I do indeed hope you stick with the older religion of jolly old England, the true one of course.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Howard Jones

When you say “we”, you are presumably not including the Scots.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
8 months ago

Thomas Williams in his book, Lost Realms, describes very effectively that little is known about the post Roman peoples who populated what later became known as England.
Virtually no concrete evidence exists of the religious beliefs of these multiplicities of tribes and clans. Williams’ chapter on Sussex and its particularly impenetrable paganess is notable and well worth the price of his book. Williams writes: ‘The wider beliefs of the Old Saxons, as they were encountered by the (Christian) missionaries in the eighth century, is hard to recover.’
Other works, such as Francis Young’s Twilight of the Godlings, indicate how modern understanding of paganism rests on a vast web of speculation.
At least Christianity and the Churches stretch back in a traceable line though literate civilisations.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago

Agreed. We know amazingly little about their beliefs.

At best, modern ‘paganism’ is a romantic project stemming from Christian / neo-Platonic roots.

It needs to get real about what it is.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago

It has always been my view that if the Jewish guy who later became known to the word as Jesus Christ could see the Church established in his name now, he would say “You morons misunderstood absolutely everything I said”.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 months ago

You can never go back.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Or “you can never swim in the same river twice”, as Heraclitus*put it so elegantly.

(*c500 BC or 253 AUC.)

Gregory Toews
Gregory Toews
8 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I’d say we never left. Modernity was just a short recess.

Peter Shaw
Peter Shaw
8 months ago

Pagan? You wish!
The UK will become an Islamic theocracy.

Kat L
Kat L
8 months ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

Yes good luck with their tolerance for pursuing other religions.

Bryan Dale
Bryan Dale
8 months ago

In a few years, what’s left of Britain will be an Islamic state and life for pagans and other infidels will become much more difficult.

Thomas K.
Thomas K.
8 months ago

I respect the author of this piece for having such strong convictions, and being able to articulate them so well. But I do, of course, take issue with several of his assertions, and hopefully I can articulate my own convictions with a fraction of his skill.

First is the assumption that those who find Neo-paganism risible likely have never met any Neo-pagans. I know personally at least two friends who claim Odin as their patron deity, and as much as I, again, respect them for their convictions, find their ardent beliefs grounded in very little of anything real. Apart from the fact that we’re all Canadian, so it’s hard to find a connection to our ancestors’ homeland through their gods due to us being a continent away after all, neither of them are of English, Scandinavian, or Germanic descent (I however, am, but I consider Christianity to be my ancestral faith, not that it matters all that much). Both of them have long been extreme counter-culture types who still seem to think they’re the minority in a culture that still values Christendom (the ongoing church burnings across Canada that barely raise a peep indicate otherwise), and have been equally as vociferous as they have been nonsensical in their fiery denunciations of Christianity. One claimed that before their conversion, vikings settled disputes through respectful debates of logical, reasoned discourse, and it was only after becoming Christian that blood-duels to the death on matters of honor became the norm, while the other declared that the Christians adapting pagan customs to ease the process of conversion was tantamount to ‘cultural rape’, which apparently justified the actual rape of Christians, which, incidentally, occurred before said ‘cultural rape’. I hope that anyone reading this can see clearly that the first claim is laughable and the second repugnant, and that it is clear that my opinion of their faith has maybe been tarnished by its association with them (or at least their idiotic claims, they are still my friends after all), not the other way around.

The second claim I find false is that any distaste I might have for Neo-paganism is the result of associations with new age hippy-ism nonsense. As much as I find new age hippy types equally if not even more annoying, the reason I find the glorifying of ancient pagan religion distasteful is because my distant ancestors’ religious practices were the most distasteful thing about them! I find the blatant hypocrisy of many demonizing the evil Christians and their stupid, idiotic traditions while simultaneously praising the savage, blood-drenched barbarism of their poor, innocent victims painful in its blind and willful arrogance. Were not the ancient druidic groves described by the few Roman onlookers who glimpsed them as ‘those branches not wet with rain were slick with human gore’?

Perhaps English Neo-pagans are a different breed than the kind I’ve encountered in Canada. And, again, I respect the author of this for having the courage and intellectual fortitude to present his argument respectfully. I do not begrudge him his beliefs, even if I find little to respect about those beliefs themselves.

I think my thoughts could better be summed up by the words of Robert E. Howard, the American novelist behind the Conan the Barbarian stories, when a character in the story ‘the Black Colossus’ was describing Mitra, the god of the Hyborian peoples and clearly a thinly-veiled analogue to the Christian deity, to the titular barbarian:
‘Mitra would have folks stand upright before him – not crawling on their bellies like worms, or spilling the blood of animals all over his altars.’

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
8 months ago

Does 74,000 out of 67,000,000 really ‘make a movement’ ?

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

It’s a crock.

A close friend of mine was a pagan and knows the woman who runs their main website for England. She estimates that there are about 400-500 *active* pagans in the country.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

How many has the CofE got nowadays? I mean, actual observant, church going ones? How many of them are under 70?

Michael
Michael
8 months ago
Reply to  Martin M

There will be none if woke Welby stays.

Thomas K.
Thomas K.
8 months ago

I respect the author of this piece for having such strong convictions, and being able to articulate them so well. But I do, of course, take issue with several of his assertions, and hopefully I can articulate my own convictions with a fraction of his skill.

First is the assumption that those who find Neo-paganism risible likely have never met any Neo-pagans. I know personally at least two friends who claim Odin as their patron deity, and as much as I, again, respect them for their convictions, find their ardent beliefs grounded in very little of anything real. Apart from the fact that we’re all Canadian, so it’s hard to find a connection to our ancestors’ homeland through their gods due to us being a continent away after all, neither of them are of English, Scandinavian, or Germanic descent (I however, am, but I consider Christianity to be my ancestral faith, not that it matters all that much). Both of them have long been extreme counter-culture types who still seem to think they’re the minority in a culture that still values Christendom (the ongoing church burnings across Canada that barely raise a peep indicate otherwise), and have been equally as vociferous as they have been nonsensical in their fiery denunciations of Christianity. One claimed that before their conversion, vikings settled disputes through respectful debates of logical, reasoned discourse, and it was only after becoming Christian that blood-duels to the death on matters of honor became the norm, while the other declared that the Christians adapting pagan customs to ease the process of conversion was tantamount to ‘cultural rape’, which apparently justified the actual rape of Christians, which, incidentally, occurred before said ‘cultural rape’. I hope that anyone reading this can see clearly that the first claim is laughable and the second repugnant, and that it is clear that my opinion of their faith has maybe been tarnished by its association with them (or at least their idiotic claims, they are still my friends after all), not the other way around.

The second claim I find false is that any distaste I might have for Neo-paganism is the result of associations with new age hippy-ism nonsense. As much as I find new age hippy types equally if not even more annoying, the reason I find the glorifying of ancient pagan religion distasteful is because my distant ancestors’ religious practices were the most distasteful thing about them! I find the blatant hypocrisy of many demonizing the evil Christians and their stupid, idiotic traditions while simultaneously praising the savage, blood-drenched barbarism of their poor, innocent victims painful in its blind and willful arrogance. Were not the ancient druidic groves described by the few Roman onlookers who glimpsed them as ‘those branches not wet with rain were slick with human gore’?

Perhaps English Neo-pagans are a different breed than the kind I’ve encountered in Canada. And, again, I respect the author of this for having the courage and intellectual fortitude to present his argument respectfully. I do not begrudge him his beliefs, even if I find little to respect about those beliefs themselves.

I think my thoughts could better be summed up by the words of Robert E. Howard, the American novelist behind the Conan the Barbarian stories, when a character in the story ‘the Black Colossus’ was describing Mitra, the god of the Hyborian peoples and clearly a thinly-veiled analogue to the Christian deity, to the titular barbarian:

‘Mitra would have folks stand upright before him – not crawling on their bellies like worms, or spilling the blood of animals all over his altars.’

Thomas K.
Thomas K.
8 months ago

(Reposting this for like the third time, for some reason Unherd’s algorithm won’t let me)

I respect the author of this piece for having such strong convictions, and being able to articulate them so well. But I do, of course, take issue with several of his assertions, and hopefully I can articulate my own convictions with a fraction of his skill.

First is the assumption that those who find Neo-paganism risible likely have never met any Neo-pagans. I know personally at least two friends who claim Odin as their patron deity, and as much as I, again, respect them for their convictions, find their ardent beliefs grounded in very little of anything real. Apart from the fact that we’re all Canadian, so it’s hard to find a connection to our ancestors’ homeland through their gods due to us being a continent away after all, neither of them are of English, Scandinavian, or Germanic descent (I however, am, but I consider Christianity to be my ancestral faith, not that it matters all that much). Both of them have long been extreme counter-culture types who still seem to think they’re the minority in a culture that still values Christendom (the ongoing church burnings across Canada that barely raise a peep indicate otherwise), and have been equally as vociferous as they have been nonsensical in their fiery denunciations of Christianity. One claimed that before their conversion, vikings settled disputes through respectful debates of logical, reasoned discourse, and it was only after becoming Christian that blood-duels to the death on matters of honor became the norm, while the other declared that the Christians adapting pagan customs to ease the process of conversion was tantamount to ‘cultural rape’, which apparently justified the actual rape of Christians, which, incidentally, occurred before said ‘cultural rape’. I hope that anyone reading this can see clearly that the first claim is laughable and the second repugnant, and that it is clear that my opinion of their faith has maybe been tarnished by its association with them (or at least their idiotic claims, they are still my friends after all), not the other way around.

The second claim I find false is that any distaste I might have for Neo-paganism is the result of associations with new age hippy-ism nonsense. As much as I find new age hippy types equally if not even more annoying, the reason I find the glorifying of ancient pagan religion distasteful is because my distant ancestors’ religious practices were the most distasteful thing about them! I find the blatant hypocrisy of many demonizing the evil Christians and their stupid, idiotic traditions while simultaneously praising the savage, blood-drenched barbarism of their poor, innocent ‘victims’ painful in its blind and willful arrogance. Were not the ancient druidic groves described by the few Roman onlookers who glimpsed them as ‘those branches not wet with rain were slick with human gore’?

Perhaps English Neo-pagans are a different breed than the kind I’ve encountered in Canada. And, again, I respect the author of this for having the courage and intellectual fortitude to present his argument respectfully. I do not begrudge him his beliefs, even if I find little to respect about those beliefs themselves.

I think my thoughts could better be summed up by the words of Robert E. Howard, the American novelist behind the Conan the Barbarian stories, when a character in the story ‘the Black Colossus’ was describing Mitra, the god of the Hyborian peoples and clearly a thinly-veiled analogue to the Christian deity, to the titular barbarian:

‘Mitra would have folks stand upright before him – not crawling on their bellies like worms, or spilling the blood of animals all over his altars.’

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago
Reply to  Thomas K.

Good post.
The issue the extreme counter-cultural types have is that they can only adequately define themselves if there’s some monolith for them to separate from.
That is, storming out requires a bunch of people who are there to hear you slam the door.
But there isn’t anyone there.

Bowness Nigel
Bowness Nigel
8 months ago

‘The feet of a popular Palestinian carpenter’? Ah hem, I believe it is commonly accepted that he was Jewish.

Phil Mitchell
Phil Mitchell
8 months ago

If there is anything I hate it is a gutless religion. When are you bringing back human sacrifice? Or exterminating disabled babies? Or sanctifying total selfishness? Getting rid of all that human rights nonsense? Abolishing women’s equality? And on and on. The pagan who wrote this article is really talking about Christianity lite. He might as well be an Anglican.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
8 months ago
Reply to  Phil Mitchell

He may rejoin Anglicanism so there’s someone to see him storm out. Even if it’s only his reflection.

Foster Bennington
Foster Bennington
8 months ago
Reply to  Phil Mitchell

I recommend actually checking out his works. They’re certainly not for the “airy-fairy” peace loving hippie types you may be imagining.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Phil Mitchell

“Christianity lite”? You mean the version where the priests don’t sexually abuse minors?

Bernard Brothman
Bernard Brothman
8 months ago

I thought it is going to be Islamic.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
8 months ago

This sounds like a pretext for getting drunk. I wonder how many wives buy it when Wotan staggers through the door.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

You say that as if it’s a bad thing.

Ruari McCallion
Ruari McCallion
8 months ago

Your Anglo-Saxon ancestors were overwhelmingly Christian. They had more intelligence than some seem to credit them with.

GK Chesterton once observed: if you take away people’s belief in God, they won’t believe in nothing; they’ll believe in anything – any old rubbish.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago

Even if that Chesterton remark is true, why must it lead to the Christian god? There are many gods around, and not all of their priesthoods are as venal as the Christian one.

Aloysius
Aloysius
8 months ago
Reply to  Martin M

A false conception of God – He is, in the words of Aquinas, ipsum esse subsistens (being itself), not some creature among many possible different gods from whom to choose. So the quote is expressing the idea that if one no longer sees the ground of all being as the summum bonum (highest good), it will be replaced by fleeting fancies within the created order that will necessarily prove to be inadequate, since there will always be something we see as the highest good – the questions is what will that be.

P.S. that quote, though attributed to Chesterton, was actually Cammaerts‘ summary of Chesterton’s argument

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor
8 months ago

About the only thing I agree with is “We have been severed from our roots by the axe of modernity.” True, I go into the oak woods, walk barefoot in the hills, and touch the ancient stones, natural and artificial, but the experience is mine alone, owes nothing to any spirits and cannot be shared with any base group.

Frederick Dixon
Frederick Dixon
8 months ago

Interesting piece, and the ideas are attractive. But does the author actually believe in the old gods? Or is it really England that he worships?
I can understand the latter. The former though is more difficult – if he really believes that the old gods exist then he needs to explain why they put up virtually zero resistance to the incursions of Christianity.

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago

Old gods give way to the new. The Christian god will be gone one day.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
8 months ago

Why is Christianity, at least in Britain, putting up practically zero resistance to ongoing progressivism and wokism? In fact in its institutional manifestation it spends its time seeming to largely emulate this new religion!

Martin M
Martin M
8 months ago

As a YouTuber and pagan priest, I receive hundreds, if not thousands, of comments each year from furious Christians“. That shouldn’t be a problem. Christians are a dying breed in the Uk.

Kat L
Kat L
8 months ago

Didn’t the pagans dabble in human sacrifice?