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When Gaza came to Rochdale Inside the nastiest by-election in modern history

George Galloway (Alamy)


February 13, 2024   6 mins

“From the river to the sea,” the familiar-hatted figure roars. “Palestine will be free,” his supporters chant in unison. George Galloway is conducting his followers like a religious cleric. “In our thousands, in our millions,” the high-priest cries. “We are all Palestinian,” they respond.

It is rare these days for a foreign issue to be so central to a British political campaign: two by-elections being fought this week — in Wellingborough in Northamptonshire, and in Kingswood near Bristol — will be decided by the economy and other domestic concerns. The battle for Rochdale, which will be fought at the end of this month, is the exception.

The former textile town, in the Pennine foothills north of Manchester, is Labour’s biggest problem between now and the next general election. At the weekend, The Mail on Sunday published a recording of its candidate Azhar Ali telling a meeting of party members that Israel had “allowed” Hamas’s October 7 massacre to take place, to give it the “green light” to invade Gaza. Ali swiftly issued an apology, but it came too late: last night, the Labour Party withdrew its support for his campaign, after receiving “new information” about his comments. All of which makes for a rather peculiar scenario: come polling day, a constituency that has voted Labour since 2010 will not have a Labour candidate on the ballot.

Yet even before Ali’s comments were unearthed, the Rochdale by-election had been tainted by vicious dysfunction. From the moment it was called, after incumbent MP Sir Tony Lloyd died following a long illness, Labour insiders feared — correctly, as it turned out — that it would expose the party’s growing struggle to both retain its loyal support among Muslims and regain the confidence of British Jews. In Rochdale, around 30% of voters are Muslim; beyond the town and across north Lancashire, roughly two dozen Labour councillors have now resigned from the party over Gaza.

Azhar Ali launches his by-election campaign (Christopher Furlong/Getty Images)

Events in the Middle East are far from Labour’s only local trial. There’s also the notorious child-abuse scandal, in which predominantly Pakistani men from the town, many of them gangsters and drug dealers, committed horrific sexual crimes against white, working-class teenage girls over many years, and indeed some are suspected of still doing so. Labour has run the council since 2010 and their councillors have been accused of brushing the issue aside — not least by Simon Danczuk, Rochdale’s former Labour MP, who was suspended by the party in 2017 following reports that he sent explicit messages to a 17-year-old girl. He is now running for the seat under the banners of the Reform Party.

And following last night’s developments, outsider campaigns such as his have been handed a significant boost. Indeed, how different the mood seems from 2019, when, despite losing scores of other northern working-class seats, Labour held Rochdale comfortably, with a majority of almost 10,000. For Starmer to lose such a solid seat, only a few months before the country votes as a whole, will shock and demoralise his party — and rejuvenate his opponents.

Yet the scent of defeat was never far away. Galloway’s announcement that he would join the fight in Rochdale must have terrified Labour organisers. Galloway, after all, is the most effective constituency campaigner of modern times. For 16 years, he was a Labour MP in Glasgow, before his party expelled him for attacking Tony Blair over the Iraq War and calling the party leadership “a blood-spattered, lying, crooked group of war criminals”.

Galloway took his revenge by moving to London’s East End, where he took the safe Labour seat of Bethnal Green and Bow for his new Respect Party in 2005. Then, in 2012, he contested a by-election in another strongly Muslim Labour constituency — Bradford West — and scored the most spectacular by-election victory of modern times, with a swing of 36.6%. He almost repeated his success three years ago in Batley and Spen, when, despite running a campaign accused of homophobia, he won almost 22% of the vote and gained so many ex-Labour Muslim supporters that Starmer’s party held on by barely 300 ballots.

“There’s a Labour mafia in Rochdale, run by total inadequates,” Galloway, now standing for the Workers’ Party, tells me when I visit his campaign headquarters in a Suzuki showroom. Despite the pro-Palestine chants at his launch rally, Galloway claims, “this by-election is about Labour, not about Gaza… Labour’s name is mud here. Gaza is just the hat on it.”

Is it not also about Rochdale? I ask him if he has any links to the area. Well, he replies, one of his daughters was born locally — during his 2017 campaign for Manchester Gorton. And then he tells me he was a Manchester United season-ticket holder. “Really?“ I reply. “I go to most United games, and I don’t ever recall seeing you there.” He smiles.

Galloway seems just as unconvincing when he denounces his now-suspended Labour opponent. “Labour picked the wrong candidate,” he says a few days before Ali’s October 7 comments come to light. He then claims that Ali has to canvas alongside a minder who acts as his translator because he is a Gujarati Indian and doesn’t speak Urdu or Kashmiri like most Muslims in Rochdale. But this is simply not true, as Ali’s agent told me later: “Azhar was born in Burnley. His mum and dad came from Pakistan, and he doesn’t speak Gujarati. But he can speak Urdu and Punjabi.”

Yet this is how Galloway has always campaigned: in an aggressive and, many believe, unbecoming manner. It’s curious, for instance, that while Ali’s campaign literature doesn’t mention Starmer once (he is instead pictured with deputy leader and nearby MP Angela Rayner), Galloway’s glossy leaflet mentions him eight times. Starmer is, it claims, “in the pocket of Israel”.

Such tawdriness is never far from these parts. The town may have birthed Britain’s cooperative movement, conceived by the Rochdale Pioneers in 1844, but in recent decades, it’s become a byword for political scandal and betrayal. It was here that former Prime Minister Gordon Brown was caught describing Gillian Duffy as “a sort of bigoted woman”, the first sign that Labour was losing touch with its traditional working-class base. And it was here that a string of horrific child sex abuse rings were uncovered. It has, as a result, become a petri dish for political disaffection, a mood which culminated in 60% of the area voting for Brexit.

“The town has become a petri dish for political disaffection.”

“Rochdale has been badly let down by Labour in local government,” says Danczuk. He claims two Labour councillors are being investigated for sexual harassment. “Is the Labour parliamentary candidate going to challenge it, or cover it up?” When I ask about his own suspension from Labour, Danczuk dismisses the allegations as “absolute nonsense”, though he admits to texting three words to the girl that were “inappropriate”. The “real reason” for his sacking, he explains, “was because I’d been Jeremy Corbyn’s fiercest critic”.

In many ways, Danczuk is a similar figure to Galloway. Both are colourful mavericks sacked by Labour after being blunt and outspoken. And both are raffish characters. Galloway has had four wives, while Danczuk is now on his third, having married a Rwandan beauty therapist last summer. Galloway has six children; Danczuk has four. They even use the same turn of phrase to describe the local Labour Party: it’s run “like the mafia”.

But not every voter in Rochdale is convinced by such rhetoric. Tariq, a market trader, says he is “not happy about Labour’s response to the war in Gaza. I know Galloway has been doing well in the community. He’s been visiting takeaways and chicken shops late at night and then the videos are shared all over Facebook.”

Lorraine, who used to work in urban regeneration but is now retired, is more concerned about Rochdale’s interminable crime wave than a distant conflict in the Middle East. “Everybody knew the child abuse was going on,” she tells me. “You can’t get away from the fact it’s Asian men grooming young white girls. A lot of it is gang and drug-related.” She cites a horrific incident in the town recently, when a man had his hand chopped off by a machete after trying to defend an elderly woman who was being harassed by a gang of men. The attacker was convicted, but the gang leader allegedly escaped to Pakistan and has never been caught. “Nothing’s being done. This is what we have to contend with.” Only at the weekend, four boys — aged between 12 and 14 — were arrested on suspicion of raping a young female near the town centre.

How likely is it that any of the candidates vying for Rochdale’s votes will remedy this? Although Labour were the clear favourites until yesterday, few could say how Ali planned to help his constituents. Indeed, Labour were so keen to get this campaign underway — and, one suspects, avoid a drawn-out contest against Galloway — that they ignored the normal by-election convention that, following an MP’s death, the incumbent party doesn’t move the writ until after the deceased’s funeral. Suffice it to say that Labour’s impatience has backfired, an act of self-harm that could wreak huge damage both locally and nationally.

Beyond Rochdale, this latest scandal illustrates a broader threat to Labour. For decades, the party has become dependent on the Muslim vote, which has been well-organised by influential leaders in Muslim communities. That strong support may partly explain why Labour politicians in towns such as Rochdale, Oldham and Rotherham seemed slow and reluctant to clamp down on child sex rings. It may also explain why Labour allowed antisemitism to seep into its ranks, both under Corbyn and now Starmer.

The result is that, thanks to the past few days, we now have an idea of what lies ahead for Starmer. When Labour returns to power, relations between the party and its Muslim supporters are likely to become even more strained. In the meantime, ordinary voters will be caught in the crossfire — and characters such as Galloway will continue to thrive.


Michael Crick is a broadcaster and writer whose most recent book is One Party After Another: The Disruptive Life of Nigel Farage (Simon & Schuster). His Selections Twitter feed is @Tomorrow’sMPs

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Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
5 months ago

Well, you have to at least salute George’s indefatigability.

Gorka Sillero
Gorka Sillero
5 months ago

You mean his grift

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago

Why?

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

I was quoting his obsequious address to Saddam Hussein when they met.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
5 months ago

“despite running a campaign accused of homophobia, he won almost 22% of the vote and gained so many ex-Labour Muslim supporters”
Maybe it should be “because of” and not “despite”?

“You can’t get away from the fact it’s Asian men grooming young white girls.”
So we have a situation where muslims do mass grooming gangs but can’t be named, muslims join ISIS or Hamas but “terror has no religion”, muslim mobs attack Jews or Hindus with impunity, and most revealing is how a candidate who is even falsely labelled as “Gujarati Indian” is unacceptable to Pakistani muslim voters (and clearly they will only vote for muslims or islamic parties) but we have to pretend that these people are “British”.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
5 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

About as British as I am Pakistani

Mike Michaels
Mike Michaels
5 months ago

Give it time.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Michaels

I can imagine one native American saying just that to another native American, say in 1700
We could end being a success story just like the Balkan.

elaine chambers
elaine chambers
5 months ago

LOL

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago

Are you not an immigrant? Rather hypocritical maybe?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

Anyone in the UK who is not a Celtic Briton is either German (Angle / Saxon) or Norse (Viking) or French (Norman) or Irish even is an “immigrant”..

Jon Barrow
Jon Barrow
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Not that simple L M, about 60 percent of modern white British dna is ‘brythonic’, no ancestrally British person is ‘German’ or ‘French’ because it’s our particular mix of brythonic-germanic-norse dna that makes us British, even as variation in the mix gives regional distinctiveness (I’m on the Lancs/Yorks border, the native ppl even look different on each side of the Pennines).

jules Ritchie
jules Ritchie
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Mate, that’s a long time time ago don’t you reckon. let’s keep it current hey?

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

No

Gayle Rosenthal
Gayle Rosenthal
5 months ago

They are called Reservations in the US and First Nations in Canada.

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago

What are you then?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

..and Rishi Sunak is? ..and Suella Braverman is? ..and all the rest of the non-white, non Christian Tories (et al).. exactly what are they? ..clearly not British in your view? If I’m not reading you correctly please enlighten me.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
4 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Under British law everyone is equal that is not the case in Islam. We fought WW2 for freedom which includes being able to criticise all religions, practices and beliefs.

Derek Smith
Derek Smith
5 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Anywhere vs Somewhere, but the Somewheres are from Elsewhere.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
5 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Asian men. Asian. While technically true, that description remains wildly inaccurate and purposely so.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Baroness Jay named them exactly what they were – British born males of Pakistani origin – which is why they cannot be deported.
The profits from their ghastly enterprise must’ve been known about, even shared with their some of their community, none of whom would have dared to blow the whistle on them even had they wanted to do so.
Galloway, rank opportunist that he is, hopped aboard and thrives on the notoriety. Ugh….

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

..and thrives too on the rank hypocrisy of genocide supporting UK politicians on all sides, opposing the genocidal war in Iraq and now in Gaza, opposing the delivery of legal weapons to murder Gazans.. is that what you call opportunism? Exposing the murder of wholly innocent, defenceless women and children? Is that what you call opportunism?? Are you a Satanist?

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

There is no ‘genocide’ going on in Gaza. There never has been. There are acts of war which are completely different. Israel has warned Gazans when attacks were due to be carried out – what other country at war has ever warned the enemy in advance of their plans? None that I know of.
The high numbers of civilian deaths are down to Hamas not having made any provision for civilian air raid shelters, and refusing to let them use the tunnels where they hide their men and ammunition. Hamas’ useful idiots in the west conveniently ignore this item of fact. Hamas claims that it is the responsibility of the UN to provide shelter. Hamas is the government in Gaza – and since when was it NOT the responsibility of governments to keep their citizens safe?.
The Gazans have brought this on themselves for supporting Hamas whilst it wreaked horrendous violence on defenceless Israeli citizens without any declaration of war, and still holds some of them as hostages in no doubt awful living conditions. The majority of Gazans still support Hamas which means they obviously don’t care about the deaths of defenceless women and children.
Quite frankly, the Palestinians have proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are wholly unfitted to govern themselves – as they have chosen weak ineffectual Abbas in the West Bank, and a death cult in Gaza.
And to be calling ordinary people Satanists is nothing short of hysteria. The only true Satanists are Hamas and their partners in crime.

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Seems to me that the killing would stop immediately if Hamas laid down their weapons. Pretty simple really.

Saigon Sally
Saigon Sally
5 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Indeed, they are Pakistani or sub continent, not Asian.

Mrs R
Mrs R
5 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Why did they ever allow mass immigration from Pakistan?

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
5 months ago
Reply to  Mrs R

Because “they” have a religious belief in the view that all cultures are equal, and at the same time snobbishly look down upon their own culture and people because “they” are superior.

This holds true for so called “liberals” across the world incidentally, not just in the West but in places like India.

Rod McLaughlin
Rod McLaughlin
5 months ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

“Nastiest”

Pro-genocide vs. Anti.

I have issues with Galloway, and even more with Islam. The majority of grooming gang members do have Muslim names. (Denial of this fact is the one thing that Corbyn and Starmer agree on).

But the children of Gaza are not being groomed, they are being exterminated.

Britain supports it. That’s because of Jewish, not Islamic, influence.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
4 months ago
Reply to  Rod McLaughlin

More Muslims have been killed by Muslims than by Jews since 1948; ever heard of Janjaweed or Algerian Civil War ? What about Sunni killing Shia in Iraq and vice versa ?
If Hamas, lay down weapons, built bombs shelters, move civilians away from military targets and did not send missiles into Israel, then Israel would have no reason to be Gaza and people would be safe.

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
5 months ago

I see Talcum X (baby-faced drivel meister Owen Jones) is predictably straight off the blocks for the hard (ish in his case) left, claiming the candidate’s suspension shows ‘Starmer is in trouble’.

Bless – and still in his jimjams no doubt.

Maybe he’ll pop over to Gaza with the ‘Queers for Palestine ‘ brigade to show support and they’ll show him a crane and a noose to go with it.

N Satori
N Satori
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Surprising (but perhaps not) that Owen Jones seems indifferent to the fact of Tory MP Mike Freer was driven out of the North Finchley mosque by Islamic activists outraged that Freer, a homosexual, should be defiling their holy place with his presence. Can Owen Jones really not see the implications, for himself and his kind, of the muslim contempt for homosexuals? Perhaps he thinks his intersectional opposition to Israel and to “Islamophobia” will be seen by muslims as some sort of noble self-sacrifice.

m pathy
m pathy
5 months ago
Reply to  N Satori

It is sexual kink for these queer people to be proximal to these dangerous hard men of Islam but ultimately safe because they live in western liberal democracies.

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
5 months ago
Reply to  N Satori

I expect the ubiquitous Pride flag could be stretched just a bit further to include the Palestinian colours and a crescent symbol next to the brolly for sex workers.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  N Satori

Owen Jones is far, far more than his gender orientation.. indeed he is a giant among pygmy journalists who stopped reporting a long time ago and now just spout MSM lies. His gender orientation has NOTHING to do with his stance on the Gaza genocide.. it is entirely subordinate to the major issue but I guess pygmies like you will never see that.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Labour left wingers are the Tories’ greatest allies. One openly admitted to me that he’d prefer another Tory government in power after the next general election, rather than Labour whilst Starmer is leader.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

Granted it’s a toss up.. the Tories would be wiped out completely on the following election by a new, left-wing, anti-genocide, progressive party.. Maybe a Corbyn, Jones, Galloway alliance?
Now there’s a thought.. an real, honest, incorruptible, peace-loving political party with real Christian/Muslim and socialist principles.. Wow.. wouldn’t that be novel.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Corbyn – a drippy ineffectual do-nothing and lover of terrorists
Galloway – a born troublemaker and lover of terrorists
Jones – terminally stupid and not fit to comment on what he had for breakfast, let alone on something as complex as the Israel/Gaza war.

Diane Tasker
Diane Tasker
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow
Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Wow so many bigots on Unherd now, shame really. Bet you would like the ‘queers’ blown up with the Palestinians right?

Albireo Double
Albireo Double
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

Straight to name calling eh?

As an alternative, why not engage? Can you explain to us how the whole “Queers for Palestine” thing works? The “Queers” support Palestinians, (who would, of course, strangulation-hang them on a crane jib just for being queer), against Jews (who are pretty cool about their sexualities).

Over to you, old thing. How does that work then? You got the guts or the imagination to tell us?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Albireo Double

Do you understand the concept of some issues being vastly greater than others? Of some evils being vastly greater than other evils? Of compromise being necessary to see the much, much larger picture. Just because a wicked Muslim wants to strangle a homosexual doesn’t mean his children must be blown to pieces and die in agony! Is that too complex a scenario for you grasp? Are you really so homophobic you are that blinded to basic realities?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

So true.. the hatefilled genocide has them oozing out of the slime of Hell with their murderous, evil degenerate views. Sad.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

I expect degenerates like you to ooze out of the slime from time to time but I find it really sad that there are another 214 degenerates like you. You need help ..try an exorcist first.

Albireo Double
Albireo Double
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Like our dear “Carl Valentine” You just can’t cope, can you, when good points with which you don’t agree, are intelligently put.

Straight to abuse – because it’s all you know how to do, I suppose.

James Love
James Love
5 months ago

It feels like the forces of darkness are revealing themselves in their common hatred of Jewish people.

Damon Hager
Damon Hager
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

Nothing new there, James, unfortunately.

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

Whaddya mean James ?

(see this morning’s further ‘revelations’ about Jewish media smears from ‘our man in Rochdale’)

We all know

یہودی دنیا کو کنٹرول کرتے ہیں۔

(Jews control the world innit).

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Satanyahu controls AIPAC, AIPAC controls the US and the US controls the world: so yes, I guess that’s true.

Michael James
Michael James
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

One attraction of antisemitism is that Jews don’t murder their critics, so it’s safe to abuse them.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Michael James

Maybe they ought to start. Even just threats and no action seems to work for the Muslims.

Michael James
Michael James
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

But it ‘works’ only because Islamists are barbarians. What’s lacking is courage on the part of everyone else and law-enforcement by the police.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Michael James

Even barbarian is too kind a name to describe Islamists. They are savages. But you’re right that they get a free pass due to ineffectual law enforcement and lack of courage amongst the rest. I think the time is coming though when all of us will have to be prepared to defend ourselves against them.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

I agree.. but Zionists are the most evil of the lot.. sick, degenerate child murderers.. you can’t really get up lower than Satanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smothrich er al if you’re looking for evil, heartless, soulless savages can you?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Michael James

Islamists, Zionists, genocide-supporting politicians are ALL barbaric.. Galloway is a peace-loving Christian.. Corbyn too.. and Jesus was a peace-loving Jew.. all meeting a similar fate it seems?

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  Michael James

I think 28,000 Gaza civilians would disagree? Did you know an Israeli survey found that 58% thought that ‘not enough force was being used in Gaza’ Wow, my opinion is changing, of course this survey refers to the Israeli populace, not to be confused with ‘Jews…’

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

You MUST insert the word Zionist before the word Jews.. millions of decent Jews all over the world, including the UK are vehemently opposed to Israeli Zionist evil.
Otherwise your statement is truly and most unfairly anti Jewish and that is NOT acceptable!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Michael James

Really? tell that to all those journalists murdered by the IOF in Gaza. Are you insane??

Emmanuel MARTIN
Emmanuel MARTIN
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

While there a few willfully blind deniers, those dark forces of darkness weren’t making any particular efforts hiding what they were.
The only chnage is that theyr are now even more demographically important.

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

The ‘forces of darkness’ are doing a good job defending the Jewish army and government on here..?

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

They certainly are. James Love scoring 228 for 7 in the Ist innings and Michael James 108 for 6 in the second is saying something.

Are those ‘dark forces’ really Kosher Nostra at work?*

(* Isaiah 36:12.)

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

Yes.. but there is another side.. and there are other Jews ..on the right side of history, all over the world. AIPAC / Kosher Nostra are in a minority.. others I the majority are clearly confused, scared and propagandised to within an inch of their sanity. Truth, accuracy, fairness and balance are crucial in these dreadful days.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  James Love

Hatred of Zionism and all it’s Satanic evil is NOT hatred of Jews.. I have Jewish friends who ALSO fall into the category of Zionist haters. My favourite guy in all of history was born, lived and died a Palestinian Jew. He preached as a rabbi in the synogogs of Judea and Jerusalem.. and HE TOO would be adamantly, outspokenly, unashamedly and passionately anti Zionist if he were here today. So save your lies for the gullible!

Gerry Quinn
Gerry Quinn
1 month ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Wasn’t he executed as a suspected Zionist?

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
5 months ago

I got the most downvoted comment on this site yesterday, and I expect to match that today. It may be anathema to the vast majority of the readership of this site, but millions of people in this country are horrified about what is happening in Gaza and horrified by our politician’s support for it.
The terrible story of Hind Rajab should, finally, be the wake-up call that something has gone badly wrong here. What if she had been Israeli and Hamas had killed her? You would have been up in arms about her. There would be story after story on this site mentioning her. Where is your humanity?
Very few politicians in the House of Commons are representing the views of the millions of people who are horrified. It is Starmer’s job to hold the government to account, not to go along with the government whilst it supports a war that has been condemned by the International Court of Justice, concerned with the prevention of genocide.
The only person in parliament at the moment who is asking the government questions that millions of people are concerned about, in this case, vaccine harms and the WHO / Big Pharma’s power grab, is Andrew Bridgen. Nobody is consistently representing the views of the millions concerned about Gaza. George Galloway is somebody who can be relied on to represent those views in Parliament, and I wish him every success in this by-election.
Does that mean I agree with him on everything? Not at all, but somebody has to ask the questions that neither the government nor the opposition wish to answer. What is the point of having an opposition? Politics has become a charade in this country.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

I think it is about time that we starting referring to the GAZA GHETTO, so dreadful have things become.

Due to historical precedent, I was rather reluctant to use this expression, but enough is enough. Just imagine if the British Army had behaved like this on so called Blo*dy) Sunday*, 52 years ago!

(* For some Good Sunday.)

POSTED AT 10.42 GMT -5.
And immediately SIN BINNED.

Micheal MacGabhann
Micheal MacGabhann
5 months ago

Charles, you were doing fine up to now. You were a bit of old empire relief. You’re usually quite good fun but clearly an eejit at the same time. “Eejit” is a sort of a term of endearment, but not quite. You’ll hardly have come across it. Look it up. It’s from your Ulster-Scots friends’ vocabulary.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago

I’ve heard “Eejit” often enough, although I prefer “Gobshite”.

Both were both favourite expletives of that renowned fighting force the ‘B Specials’ of the Royal Ulster Constabulary.

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago

So what is your point ‘Mr gobshite’? (wink to Chas)

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago

Rubbish.
It wouldn’t be if you bothered to evidence your capability to think critically

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

You rise to easily to the bait Ms Vogel to offer any ‘sport’.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

It’s just old Charlie’s way.. spanner in the works Charlie ..the old eejity gobshyte!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

I update you for you’re opener AND down vote you for your unfortunate closer.. you bad man you Charlie!

Aidan Twomey
Aidan Twomey
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Everyone is horrified by what is happening in Gaza. The reason that you got so downvoted is that decent people call on Hamas to end the fighting by surrendering, but you call on Israel to end the fighting by abandoning the hostages.

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Where did I “call on Israel to end the fighting by abandoning the hostages”? Please evidence this or retract.

Aidan Twomey
Aidan Twomey
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Retract, my arse. You say you are horrified by our politician’s support of the IDF action in Gaza. So what is your strategy for getting the hostages back? Asking nicely? Trading for thousands of scum bags currently In Israeli jails? You are a sentimental fool who wants Israelis to suffer so you don’t feel bad. Why don’t you just demand our politicians call for the immediate surrender by Hamas? Why do you hold Israel responsible for what is happening in an enclave they left 20 years ago?

Peter Shevlin
Peter Shevlin
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Getting the hostages back should not involve the mass slaughter of 100x the number of women and children. Quite apart from anything else it against the rules of war and is a criminal offence. Once we accept it it will be used against us as it will be against the Israelis in the future.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter Shevlin

If the enemy was not Hamas it would not. Read my reply to Aidan Twomey above as to why Hamas licks its lips when faced with naivete such as yours

Aidan Twomey
Aidan Twomey
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter Shevlin

You are correct, it shouldn’t. If Hamas had spent all its money developing the economy of Gaza rather than building tunnels then the civilians wouldn’t be a human shield. I presume that you think using paragliders to murder civilians at a music festival is also a criminal offense. When you have successfully prosecuted the offenders I will take you seriously, but until then I think the IDF are doing a better job of getting justice than you.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

You alluded (I assume by accident) to the concept of “bringing Hamas (et al) killers to justice”.. Are you referring to courts of law? Like the ICJ is a court of law?
But no, I see you prefer the more British way of blowing thousands of innocent people to pieces just like in Iraq.. for a minute there I thought you were promoting the rule of law! Silly me! You’re British right? ..despite your Irish name?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter Shevlin

Yes. As we speak the UK is in flagrant breach of the ICJ directives.. the highest court in the world. As such the UK is guilty of aiding and abetting the genocide. This will be a stain on Britain for a thousand years, just as the war crime of invading and murdering a million Iraqis is already. Biden, Sunak, Von der Leyen and Blair are all war criminals and no lawyer on Earth can weasel out of that.
When BRICS++ with all of Africa and Asia on board (after USUKEU crumbles) set up real UN courts hopefully they will all be jailed for life.. and the Israeli demons executed like the worst of the Naz¡s.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Among the “sumbags” in Israeli jails are over 700 children, incarcerated without trial for the crime of throwing stones.. where they are tortured, starved and sexually abused..
Why on God’s Earth would Hamas’s freedom fighters surrender to the Satanic, murderous Zionists? Should the French (+English) Resistance have surrendered to the Naz¡s?

Edgar Wallner
Edgar Wallner
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Hamas could end this immediately by saying they will return the hostages and stop the rockets if Israel agree to a ceasefire. If they don’t they are as responsible for Gaza deaths.

elaine chambers
elaine chambers
5 months ago
Reply to  Edgar Wallner

True Edgar, but we know they won’t. The dilemma that Hamas has ‘cleverly’ put Israel in is irresolvable on any moral grounds. Any cease fire will inevitably enable Hamas to recharge, so Israel can’t stop now. It’s like when the doctor tells you must not stop taking the antibiotic before its finished or the disease will rise again.
It’s unfortunately a human conundrum that we can’t get out of. We killed millions more than we saved in WW2 fighting for moral justice.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Edgar Wallner

They did thar dozens if times in the past but Israeli killers, ie IOF and settlers alike continued murdering unarmed Palestinians at 27 times the rate Hamas did.. including in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t exist! Read more history ..please!

Fraoch A
Fraoch A
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Aa mistakenly downvoted ye. The system usually allows a corrective second vote but no this time.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Fraoch A

..yes, I noticed that too. Sneaky eh?

Peter B
Peter B
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Not everyone.
Frankly, I’m not following what’s happening in Gaza at all. Hamas has got what they wanted – an Israeli over-reaction. But the consequences are entirely on them. We are in no way responsible for any of this. Since there’s absolutely nothing I can do to improve anything (and it’s not clear what could be done by external actors to improve anything), I’ve stopped watching. Better to work on solvable problems and things where the people involved really do want and are open to external help.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

Over-reaction?

Peter B
Peter B
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

It’s a bit subjective – but it seems that many people are viewing it as an over-reaction (and being instructed to do so by the media).

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

Of course you can help.. you can even stop it! Protest.. take to the streets, write to your MP.. put up posters. Send funds to Gaza so the children don’t starve..
The holocaust of our time and you turn a blind eye! Shame on you!

Micheal MacGabhann
Micheal MacGabhann
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Everyone on this comments page is not horrified. Quite the opposite. Did you read the comments?

Aidan Twomey
Aidan Twomey
5 months ago

I don’t get you. Any in particular you want to highlight?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

I did.. Satanism is alive and well in GB just as it is thriving in Israel under Satanyahu and the AshkeNAZI Zionist child murderers.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Google Palestinian Media Watch and search for the Hamas leader, comfortable in exile in Qatar, who when asked why Palestinians weren’t allowed to take shelter alongside Hamas in the tunnels, said that the Palestinian people want to be martyrs. The wretch meant every word he said.

Frank Freeman
Frank Freeman
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

If Hamas surrendered it would make the ethnic cleansing of Gaza by Israel much easier. However, it would be very difficult for Hamas to surrender as Israeli soldiers tend to shoot people waving white flags, whether they are Escaped hostages or Palestinian children. Also, even if they did mange to successfully surrender, the Israelis would say it was fake and keep bombing. Hamas are only the excuse, the civilians are the target.
And if you genuinely cared about the hostages, you be calling for a ceasefire and prisoner exchange. Israel’s recent attempt at rescuing by force hostages resulted in to being freed and 3 being killed by the IDF!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Frank Freeman

..using half the bloody army to do it as well! It was just a propaganda show to appease Israeli relatives.. Zionist zealots want all Israeli hostages killed.. that is clear. The IDF killed around 300 Israeli hostages using tank fire and Apache helicopter strafing on Oct 7th.. read a bit more will you! Try the Istaeli newspaper Ha’aretz even!! and Bet’slem the ISRAELI human rights organisation. About 2% of Israelis are decent human beings and publish the truth!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Aidan Twomey

Those I power in Israel don’t give a flying f¤ck for the Israeli hostages you silly boy.. if they did they wouldn’t have blown half of them to pieces with tank fire and Apache helicopter strafing on Oct 7th BEFORE they had a chance of even becoming hostages.. check that out in the Israeli newspapers Ha’aretz especially. Equally, they would be using precision bombs if they were trying to avoid blowing Jewish hostages to pieces in Gaza alongside their Hamas captors wouldn’t they instead of bombing indiscrimately. Far from wanting to have the hostages released they have been trying to kill them all on that fateful day and ever since as per the Hannibal doctrine..
AND HIDING it from the Israeli public (and you as well, obviously, you silly boy).

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

You’ve got my (up)vote mate. So many people here claim to be free-thinkers and critical of the mainstream state-fed official lines but swallow the pro-Israel anti-Palestine (let’s face it anti-arab) one so willingly.
Just looking at the support given to some of the other comments on this article alone shows why…

Peter B
Peter B
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

You do know this isn’t binary ?
You don’t have to be on one side or the other here. And these situations often feel like a choice between “awful” and “worse”.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

This issue is about right vs utter evil.. of course everyone has to take a side! Just like the Naz¡ holocaust in the 1940s.. you can’t stand idly by and call yourself a fully evolved human being ..and yes, that too is binary!

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

It’s nothing like the Nazi holocaust. If you read some history of that period, you will see that the Nazi approach had absolutely nothing in common with Israel.
And in fact, nobody has to take a side. It’s a choice. Some people believe there are faults on both sides. That is their right. It’s not up to you to dictate terms with your arrogant claim to moral superiority.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

To be fair your lot stood idly by during the holocaust in the 40’s

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Correct assessment, in my opinion

Simon J Hassell
Simon J Hassell
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Hi Nik
I suspect the big issue most people have is centred around a few things

Over 800,000 Muslim on Muslim murders in Syria and Yemen alone. Assad barrel bombing his own people and using chemical weapons on them. It’s ongoing but for some reason, not a feature of British politics or marches. I could list out for you the atrocities committed on a daily basis by Boko Haram, Al-Shabab, Sunni on Shia or you can check them here https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

After WWII a lot of people were displaced and new national (and indeed in some cases notional) borders were drawn up. This resulted in a lot of people moving around the globe, including >700,000 Jews who were genuinely ethnically cleansed from Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq. Iran etc. The only people still being called ‘refugees’ are the nomadic Syrian / Egyptian / Jordanian Arabs who have been rebranded as Palestinians (complete with a flag, as of 1964). Why is that? Why did UNRWA change the definition of what is a refugee? And how did the Egyptian terrorist leader Yasser Arafat manage to leave c $1 billion in his will?
Once you can answer both those questions with coherence, we may have a more common view on the attribution and culpability of why those poor Gazans are suffering so much (clue – it’s not because Israel wants to fight with them, it just seriously enriches a few men and it’s super convenient for them for the ‘struggle’ to continue).
It’s critical to understand that Islam (and Christianity) are absolutist religions. Judaism is not. That has a LOT to do with things too.

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
5 months ago

The constant geopolitical meddling, deliberate exacerbation of religious tensions and financing of Islamist terrorism by global powers wishing to control the region’s oil is what lies behind much of the violence.
The children of Gaza are not responsible for anything that you have listed there, and if you wish to discuss attribution and culpability, then answer this: Why are Palestinians the people who have to be collectively punished for centuries of past crimes against Jews carried out in other countries?

Gorka Sillero
Gorka Sillero
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

“The constant geopolitical meddling”

why do you assume they lack agency? unless you mean the meddling by their fellow Muslims in Iran maybe?

geopolitical meddling didn’t make them slaughter Christians in Nigeria, you peanut

Simon J Hassell
Simon J Hassell
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Hi Nik
If this were the case, how would you explain Muslim attacks on Jews that pre-date the use or need for oil? It’s not like this is a new thing. Islamic intolerance of Christians and Jews has been a feature of their thinking and culture since the 8th century CE. And that’s without discussing the Sunni-Shia schism responsible for millions of deaths – with no sign of the 1200 year old argument abating either.
The poor children of Gaza are not responsible, you’re right. The publicly declared desire for Genocide of the Jews by the terrorist group Hamas that their parents voted, are responsible. That and the brainwashing of the educational material UNRWA pushed into their schools (really, look it up, it’s disgusting).
I am not convinced you’re really thinking about this properly. How would you, if you had the stress of being Israeli PM for a couple of weeks, deal with a neighbour committed to your destruction? It’s not like you can negotiate with them, is it?
One thing you can be sure of – Israelis and Israel would love nothing more than to live in peace and spend the dollars their amazingly productive economy produces on better things than the IDF that defends the most persecuted race on the planet.
So, please do share how you would deal with the ongoing problem. It’s very easy to criticise and indeed, I have a PhD in hindsight. So let’s hear your sagacious solution(s).

Frank Freeman
Frank Freeman
5 months ago

The same countries that are enabling Israel’s genocide in Gaza, by supplying the weapons, are also the same countries that sold weapons to Saudi Arabia, notably France, the UK and US, thus enabling the slaughter in Yemen. They are also the same western powers that supplied Islamic extremists (who later became ISIS) with weapons to destroy Syria, in exactly the same way they destroyed Libya. Without Russian support, Syria would either be a failed state like Libya, or run by a theocracy who would have slaughtered or driven out the Christians and any non Sunni Muslims.

Jeff Watkins
Jeff Watkins
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Big fan of Andrew Bridgen. His speech at the recent parliamentary committee was brilliant and throughly researched. Quite agree that George Galloway would represent the views of the people of Gaza – but I suspect he also represents the views of many Non Zionist Jewish people both in Israel and overseas who want there to be one multifaith Palestine shared peacably between Arabs and Jews. In the long run this is surely the only solution.

Julian Garner
Julian Garner
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

Jeff, seriously, grow up!

Jeff Watkins
Jeff Watkins
5 months ago
Reply to  Julian Garner

Just saying – there are only two solutions a multifaith Palestine shared peacably between Arabs and Jews OR one side destroys the other side completly. The two state solution whcih was proposed thirty years ago in 1993 clearly hasn’t worked. What is your solution?

Harry Phillips
Harry Phillips
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

Run that one past Hammas/Hezbollah/IJ – just for the craic.

Adrian Smith
Adrian Smith
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

“…. want there to be one multifaith Palestine shared peacably between Arabs and Jews. In the long run this is surely the only solution.”
That sounds great to me. Who is the credible Palestinian leader with the backing of the majority of Palestinians who is calling for this solution? The “Nelson Mandela” of Palestine if you like.
It certainly is not any member of Hamas nor Mahmoud Abbas, who is despised by many Palestinians as a collaborator, so who is it? I do feel that without a figure of this kind, the perfectly reasonable desire expressed above is nothing more than a pointless pipe dream that makes about as much sense as “Queers for Palestine”.

Gorka Sillero
Gorka Sillero
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

“one multifaith Palestine shared peacably between Arabs and Jews”

as seen in so many Arab/majority muslim countries

Aidan Twomey
Aidan Twomey
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

So you think Pfizer are trying to kill us and Hamas are trying to live peacefully with their Jewish neighbors. Put the bong down, my friend.

elaine chambers
elaine chambers
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

If it ever were a solution it’s not now, Hamas blew that away quite spectaularly.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Watkins

Are we talking about Rochdale here?

Vijay Kant
Vijay Kant
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

A typical Islamist’s narrative.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

What would you do if you were Israel’s PM?

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Throw myself at the mercy of the International Criminal Court and. beg for forgiveness?

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

The Israelis had a cease-fire. The Palestinians broke it. How would a second cease-fire be any different? I’m sorry, but there dire consequences when one country initiates atrocities toward another. It’s easy for us to condemn from the comfort of our armchairs, but the truth is we don’t really know the realities of the situation.
One thing to consider: if either of these groups were your enemy who would you rather be captured by?

Frank Freeman
Frank Freeman
5 months ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

During the summer of 2023 over 200 Palestinians were killed by IDF and Israeli settlers who were try to ethnically cleanse the west bank. That does not sound like a ceasefire to me.

Dov Hamburger
Dov Hamburger
5 months ago
Reply to  Frank Freeman

OCT 7 Hamas broke the cease fire 1300 jews were killed 5000 injured dozens of rapes 450 innocents kidnapped in 1 day Hamas were trying to kill exterminate all the population.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

‘One thing to consider: if either of these groups were your enemy who would you rather be captured by?’
Good question. Didn’t even have to think about it. As a woman I’d rather take my chances with the Israeli Defence Force rather than Hamas.

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

Thanks Nik a just and worthy comment, 51 up votes is what you need to concern yourself with, not the red neck -133…

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Nik Jewell

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH every sentiment you express; and happy to see 53 others who also have a heart and a soul! Well said.

Peter Principle
Peter Principle
5 months ago

Galloway is despicable. Apart from brass neck, one of his advantages over rivals is that he has a natural mastery of rhetoric. Politicians in the UK mainstream parties are entirely lacking in this department.

Ian Barton
Ian Barton
5 months ago

True – but I will always be grateful for his takedown of the US Senate hearing over the Iraq invasion.

Peter Principle
Peter Principle
5 months ago
Reply to  Ian Barton

That takedown was a tour de force of brass neck coupled with rhetoric.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago

What about the fabled HILLARY BENN,MP?

Harry Phillips
Harry Phillips
5 months ago

Although I disagree completely with him on Israel, I often find George Galloway to be worth listening to for the clarity of his views. He looks, acts, and speaks like a convert to Islam (three Muslim wives, unquestioning support for Palestinians, failure to ask any meaningful questions about the Rochdale – and other – grooming scandals).

Does this matter? Well yes, very much so given the behaviour of the Muslim voting block. It’s not unlikely that this block will carry the day in Rochdale with a minority – albeit a substantial one – of the population. A foretaste of what is to come for the rest of the country.

Simon Danzuk has really put his neck on the line over the years attempting to expose various grooming scandals, and I’d like to see him do well. Interesting to see the damage done by his three words while the vote for the other side is unaffected by multiple, widespread child sex rings.

Timothy Baker
Timothy Baker
5 months ago
Reply to  Harry Phillips

It would be a wake up call were Galloway to win the election. The threat from an unintegrated minority would become apparent. There is nothing wrong with a diverse population, but they must integrate. There is nothing wrong with say, a second generation immigrant being proud of their cultural heritage, but first and foremost they must be proud of being British.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Timothy Baker

Mostly I agree with you, execept I wouldn’t class their cultural heritage as something to be proud of – which is no doubt why their parents came to the UK in the first place.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

Not to be confused with Britain’s cultural heritage right? I’m Irish and so very aware of Britain’s “cultural heritage”. By the way the Indus Valley was civilised when Britons were dragging each other from cave to cave by the hair.. and let’s not talk of a million dead, wholly innocent Iraqi Muslims or war crimes in Muslim Afghanistan or Muslim Libya.. Yep, I bet those Muslims are ashamed of their heritage which, by the way, included sheltering Jews for centuries from many massacres carried out by oh so cultured Christian culture. Gimme a break!

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

‘By the way the Indus Valley was civilised when Britons were dragging each other from cave to cave by the hair.’
What a pity they have been dragged backwards by Islam.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
5 months ago
Reply to  Timothy Baker

As Orwell pointed out The Left wing intelligentsia despise physical courage, patriotism, British culture, possessed of shallow self righteousness, have little contact with physical reality, take their politics from Moscow and cooking from Paris, are always anti British and only capable of petty fogging carping criticism. It has only become worse since the early 1940s.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Homer nodded.. I guess Orwell also needed a nap from time to time.. For balance maybe you’ll quote a few lies from Orwell criticising the other side? ..not that it’s necessary now we have UnHerd and they, like Satanyahu’s demons can boast about their genocidal evil all by themselves.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Timothy Baker

I presume by “intergrate” you mean become white, Christian, Islamophobic, support Nigel Farrage and join the BNP? Am I correct?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Harry Phillips

Apart from being anti truth (logically, by your own admission), anti Muslim, pro genocide (again, logically from your statement) and entirely ignorant on th basic principles of Islam, is there anything else we should know about you?

Harry Phillips
Harry Phillips
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Been bingeing on RTE/IT Liam?

William Murphy
William Murphy
5 months ago

There is the old saying that we get the politicians we deserve. What on earth did the good people of Rochdale do? Not so long ago they had Cyril Smith, the fattest MP in Britain. No, it was not Cyril’s circumference. It was his taste for beating young boys and his corrupt apologia for a local asbestos company. You couldn’t make this stuff up in a bad music hall sketch. Yes, Gracie Fields also came from Rochdale. But she has not yet been accused of anything…..

Susie Bell
Susie Bell
5 months ago
Reply to  William Murphy

Funnily enough ‘Our Gracie’ was turned on by her fans during the war as she and her husband escaped the bombing and rationing by going to live in their Mediterranean home for the duration. My grandparents had no time for her!

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Susie Bell

And to add insult to injury, she went to live in Capri which is part of Italy – which during WW2 was then allied with our enemy.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

We hanged ‘Lord Haw Haw’ who wasn’t even a British citizen so why not Mrs Fields?

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago

I don’t think she engaged in any propaganda on behalf of the Axis though. I think she had visited Capri prior to WW2 and liked it. The Italians left her alone, she wasn’t interned.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago

This is a small point, but a telling one, I think: Michael Crick says, “in Rochdale, around 30% of voters are Muslim; beyond the town and across north Lancashire, roughly two dozen Labour councillors have now resigned from the party”. This is geographically incorrect – the ex-mill towns with large Muslim majorities are in East Lancashire. North Lancashire borders the Lake District, very few mill towns up there.
It might seem pedantic, but I think it shows that even a journalist with solid northern connections like Michael Crick has no idea where these towns actually are.
Writing an article about a place should consist of more than interviewing one Muslim man and one middle-aged white woman and then hot-footing it back to central Manchester on the tram to write up your notes in a michelin-starred restaurant.
In addition, the possession of a season ticket to United has been an unreliable indicator of northern working-class authenticity for several decades now, something George Galloway, Michael Crick, Nick Robinson et al. could usefully note.
The people of towns like Rochdale, Burnley, Oldham, Blackburn, Haslingden, Accrington etc deserve better. Better politicians, better journalism, more investment. A start would be locating them in the right place.

Katherine Hayes, Orkney (most definitely in the north)

Peter Principle
Peter Principle
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Good point. Mr Crick clearly thinks “North Lancashire” is anywhere in Lancashire North of Manchester city centre.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I agree, but no-one will be “hot-footing” on a GMPT tram; they’re slow, clanky and often dangerous to travel on after dark, especially in the outlying places such as Rochdale.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I guess even the trams compare well to the London Underground. Plus, maybe he got a taxi there and back. I don’t know why I’m anonymous here – I’m logged in under my own name. Katherine Hayes.

Andrew Dalton
Andrew Dalton
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Probably a consequence of the site revamp.

Peter F. Lee
Peter F. Lee
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Hi Katherine Go to my Account (top right home page) and then Profile (horizonal menu) and You will find your user name is blank. Enter your name in the profile and you will be fine.

Andrew Dalton
Andrew Dalton
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Yes. It’s basically two bands of industrialised towns: the central band starting from Preston, running east through Blackburn, Darwen into Burnley and the Southern band, Wigan, Bolton, Bury to Oldham. The latter is largely Greater Manchester by the new administrative borders.
Edit – *A Lancastrian

Jonathan Nash
Jonathan Nash
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Quite. I went walking in the Ribble Valley last Summer. Probably I should have anticipated it, but it was remarkable how the high streets of the mill towns are now dominated by asian businesses – sari shops, curry houses, halal butchers etc.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Those with the skills, especially leadership often leave. What would be of use is an MP who is Para /Commando Technical Corp, who boxed for Army and who has worked in industry as a foreman and who cannot be intimidated. If required, can call favours from his ex military unit.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

What! And find yourself on trial in Belfast accused of murder over 50 years ago?*

(*As five former soldiers currently are.)

Robbie K
Robbie K
5 months ago

Galloway, after all, is the most effective constituency campaigner of modern times.

What he is effective at is stirring up racial hatred.

PAUL SMITH
PAUL SMITH
5 months ago

Owen Jones has actually said something sensible. There’s a first time for everything I guess. Here’s the interview from LBC
https://youtu.be/XoHL_2EDI1c?si=8T2VcsxFxao94Vvo

Phil Rees
Phil Rees
5 months ago
Reply to  PAUL SMITH

Just watched it and yes, you’re right, to my amazement as I’m usually a critic of Jones.

glyn harries
glyn harries
5 months ago
Reply to  PAUL SMITH

Yes he has this correct.

elaine chambers
elaine chambers
5 months ago
Reply to  PAUL SMITH

I’m amazed. Jones has excelled himself and had a major burst of sanity.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

Listen more carefully next time eh?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  PAUL SMITH

I find 90%+ of what Owen Jones says very sensible.. also calm, measured, informed and accurate.. if only UnHerd contributors could aspire to a fraction of Owen Jones’s brilliance what a great platform it would be.. but no, we have to put up with endless homophobes, bigots, white supremacists and ultra right-wing racists as the majority.. A pity.. I always thought the British were better than that..

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Wasn’t Ireland recently said to be the worst place in Europe to be black, whereas Britain was the 2nd best? Seems a bit rich for you to be throwing around accusations of bigotry and Dublin was recently the scene of violent anti immigration riots

John Le Huquet
John Le Huquet
5 months ago

Islam will never compromise. Do Labour wish to be seen as bowing down to muslim demands? At some stage this was bound to happen and is going to put Labour in a difficult position. Maybe they would be better off without the Muslim vote.

Tony Buck
Tony Buck
5 months ago
Reply to  John Le Huquet

The Muslim vote is growing ; the white vote is shrinking.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago
Reply to  Tony Buck

I’m glad that I’ll be pushing up daisies before the Muslims become the majority.

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  Tony Buck

Good, the whites on hear seem totally bigotted!

Helen E
Helen E
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

How do you know who’s “white on hear [sic]”? Can you see through people’s screens?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Helen E

‘By their works (words)shall ye know them’ – Jesus of Nazareth.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Tony Buck

What exactly is a “white vote” ..the ballot does not record the skin colour of the voter. Only the candidates count.. Don’t white voters vote Tory and Kabour and LibDem and Green and Reform and unckd Tom Cobley? And don’t black, brown and yellow voters do likewise? Wyf are you on about??

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  John Le Huquet

If, as we’re led to believe by Tarek Heggy, an Egyptian philosopher who lives in the US now, there is no word in Arabic for “compromise” and if language influences thought and both influence behaviour, devout Muslims must be mystified by the concept.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

There is no word in Irish (Gaeluc) fir YES or NO.. watja make dat?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  John Le Huquet

Has everyone forgotten Christian fundamental thinking on sexual morality and behaviour generally.. how strict was that? Islam will do the same; ease off on its fundamental dogma or it will lose most of its young folk. Not that it will gets ‘liberal’ as modern so-called (former?) Christians have become; God forbid!

Jonathan Story
Jonathan Story
5 months ago

Let’s remember the suitable punishment for gang rapers of underage girls:
hanged from a lap post
used down
by their johnny.

Vijay Kant
Vijay Kant
5 months ago

Why is the Muslim community considered a voting bloc? Why do Muslims vote en masse? Is Muslim identity more important than individuality? These are important questions to address if we want our democracy to survive, especially in a system where individual choice is given a high priority.

Susie Bell
Susie Bell
5 months ago
Reply to  Vijay Kant

Muslim identity IS more important than individuality for working class Muslims. It is a peasant religion.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Vijay Kant

The answer to all your questions is “yes” for reasons I haven’t time or space to address. Google the 10 year plan of the Muslim Brotherhood, whose aim is to encourage us to destroy ourselves “by our own miserable hands.”
Seems to me that we’re well on the way….

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

Do you recall what B*shar al-Ass*d’s father did to the ‘M*slim Brotherhood’ in 1982?

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

SHIN BET*Censorship makes it impossible to reply.

(* The Israeli version of the G*stapo.)

Mrs R
Mrs R
5 months ago
Reply to  Vijay Kant

Islam and fellow Muslims of the Umma have always come first for the overwhelming majority of Muslims and it will always be so.

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
5 months ago

What a shame Galloway doesn’t use his considerable powers for good.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

He does.. remove Iraq war! Or are you in favour of the million murdered under the false pretext of WMD? If only GB had listened to him!

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
5 months ago

So, a candidate who essentially wants Israel wiped from the map – because what else does that ‘river/sea’ bumper sticker mean? – who also had a previous campaign touched by homophobia. Of course, a Muslim community would back him, but it raises questions about why the left at large would, beyond the exercise in power-grabbing. Then again, the ‘queers for Palestine’ crowd reveals the depth of tribal thinking.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

And the ignorance and stupidity.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

Precisely what Israel is indulging in now!
How they have squandered the ‘Holocaust Dividend’ is truly astonishing is it not?

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago

Absolutely agree, other than the nutters on unherd the Israelis have lost most of the support they had, I do believe that the downward trajectory of the ‘bankers club’ seems to be going hand in hand with that of Jewish people, courtesy of Netanyahu and his ultra right wing zealots.

Gordon Arta
Gordon Arta
5 months ago

The Balkanisation of the UK along religious lines, with Islam at the forefront, is only going to get worse. When less than 50% of the electorate turn out to vote, a block which can guarantee 100% turnout, one way or another, is going to turn the constituency into a pocket borough, like Tower Hamlets. Our main political parties are going to have to face up to the entryism these hardliners are using, grow a pair, and force them out. Only when these extremist ideologues have to campaign under their own banner will they be recognised for what they are.

sue vogel
sue vogel
5 months ago
Reply to  Gordon Arta

Agreed.
The time really to worry will be when islamists (wearing sheep-like clothing) get their own political party. Heaven forbid it!

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

They put in an application last month but it was turned down for technical reasons.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  sue vogel

Islamlists are extremely rare.. you may be confusing decent Islamic people, usually better than most so-called Christians, with terrorists who came in many forms, Islamist being just one.. state terrirists like Israel are far more lethal.. be careful you don’t end up a puppet to AIPAC’s equivalent in the UK if you haven’t done so already!

Dennis Learad
Dennis Learad
5 months ago

GAZA GENOCIDE our government complicit the Labour Party Liberals House of Lords the minority of UK citizens NOT REPRESENTING the UK masses thats what this is about. Democracy there is none now in the UK otherwise we would have sanctions on the zionist Apartheid genocidal Israel state. Our government are murderers collaborators to a Holocaust a Genocide. THEY DO REPRESENT ME OUR THE MASSES here in the UK. imagine you are in your home now a prison, your electricity turned off your water no food no medical help for your wife and children your in your prison garden and a bomb explodes killing your wife and blowing off your childrens limbs?? This is what is happening and any UK citizen who does not call for a ceasefire and boycotts any Isralie products should hang their head in shame. You can call out these Zionist Murderous jews this Zionist Apartheid Israel it is not a crime they are a terrorist state.

Simon J Hassell
Simon J Hassell
5 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Learad

Hard to take you seriously when you can’t even spell Israeli properly.

m pathy
m pathy
5 months ago

It is done deliberately -IsraLIE, IsraHELL. The derangement is real and why the supposed pro palestinian cause is actually antisemitic to the core.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  m pathy

No it’s not antisemitic at all! How could it be?
Zionist Israelis are NOT Semitic but almost all AshkeNAZI. Satanyahu is Polish having changed his name from Szmwolski or something similar.
Palestinians are ALL Semitic as are most Jordanians, Egyptians and many Lebanese and Syrians.
Learn some history! Look up your dictionary now and again..

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago

You are a pompous bigot, is that spelt/spelled to your liking?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Carl Valentine

I approve!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

Nicely observed.. let’s get the spellings right:
It’s IsraHELL
AshkeNAZI
Satanyahu
Genocide Joe and
Infosys Sunak
..are you okay with all that?

Vijay Kant
Vijay Kant
5 months ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Infosys is a public company. Sunak family probably owns around 1% of its share capital. But don’t let the truth come in the way of your fabricated narrative.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Vijay Kant

You 3xclude the wife’s father’s shares! Like Sunak doesn’t get an earful of he disobeys the woman with the money who, I assume is very close to daddy!

Carl Valentine
Carl Valentine
5 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Learad

Well said, it is truly frightening that Unherd readers are happy to ignore the pain and suffering of others because they are of a different ethnic group, we are a remarkably unpleasant species.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Learad

Absolutely true.. hence the response from the usual bigots, Zionists, anti Muslim, racist, white supremacy crowd..

Adrian Smith
Adrian Smith
5 months ago

The other area where Labour in general and Starmer in particular are going to be vulnerable in the run up to the election is in the extreme woke ideologies space generally and gender ideology in particular.
Support for Israel and support for trans women are women are, I believe, Starmer’s equivalent of Cameron’s BREXIT.

elaine chambers
elaine chambers
5 months ago

The Labour Party has brought this on itself by courting the Muslim vote for decades, (30 at least) with Ken Livingstone hugging Sheik Qarawadi, [pass me a bucket to vomit in]. In its adoration of this religio/cultural group which it wrongly perceived as underdogs in brown skin, as apposed to the privileged ‘white’ Jews who recklessly annoyed Nazi fascism and got punished for it, they might soon, I hope, have their comeuppance.
These sagging scrotums, Ali, Galloway, and Danczuk might help Labour to finally have the moral courage to face the degenerative affect these men, and I mean men, from Pakistan have brought into the UK unreconstucted from a failed state into the streets of Rochdale and other towns. Filthy men to whom the Labour Party handed over our white children as a sacrificial offereing in order to placate them so that they wouldn’t riot.
I’ve been left disenfranhised by this lily livered Labour Party. It must rid itself of the Muslim grip or it will forever stand in the filth that these Pakistani men brought here to the UK.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 months ago

I can’t get past images of George Galloway pretending to be a cat in the 2006 Big Brother whilst he was an MP

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
5 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

That image sprung to my mind too. Wasn’t Rula Lenska the unfortunate lady on the receiving end of his advances?

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
5 months ago

Here’s the timeline, in around 10 years time the Jewish population will have left these shores. In around 30 years White Christians here will be seeking refuge/safety in other Countries including the useful idiots of the far left.

Mrs R
Mrs R
5 months ago
Reply to  Andrew Martin

As Christian persecution (along with the persecution of other minorities, such as gay, apostates etc) is pretty much institutionalised in most Islamic countries – a fact recognised by our authorities and is therefore a reason no illegal immigrant, however criminal, can be deported if they claim to be Christian – it has always struck me as rather bizarre, even sinister, that those same authorities have encouraged mass, demographic changing immigration from Muslim countries while claiming it is the religion of peace.

Steve Farrell
Steve Farrell
5 months ago

I’d like to see someone, anyone really, getting half so exercised over domestic issues – things that affect British people & that British MPs can change. Leave the Middle East to those that live there.

Steve Farrell
Steve Farrell
5 months ago

It seems abundantly clear that George Galloway would be happier somewhere else.

John Galt Was Correct
John Galt Was Correct
5 months ago

There is something very odd about Rochdale and its even worse neighbour, Oldham. Travel there from Central Manchester and its hard to believe they are in the same century never mind the same county. Some weird outcome of economic stagnation, societal breakdown, despair and hopelessness. The outskirts are nice but the town centres are depressing. Even a trip through on the tram is bad enough, but as per Steve above, don’t do that at night, not on that line.

Eleanor Barlow
Eleanor Barlow
5 months ago

It’s beyond belief that Labour didn’t check Azhar Ali’s stance on Gaza before approving his adoption as Labour candidate for Rochdale. No doubt some policy wonk from London judged that it was not ‘woke’ to check his credentials because he is a Muslim and is therefore automatically entitled to a get out of jail free card whatever he says. And I’m not surprised by Galloway’s prompt decision to exploit the situation for his own ends, he must rank as the one of the most unscrupulous chancers currently involved in politics.

William Amos
William Amos
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

There are other explanations. One of which is that they knew and thought it would never ‘get out’ of the local community.
Labour have been running with the foxes and hunting with the hounds on islamic chauvinism for so long they appear to have simply become complacent.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  William Amos

I don’t know what all the hullabaloo is about.. the guy expressed the belief that Oct 7th was known about and let happen.. I hold the same view.. It is inconceivable that that the most sophisticated intelligence/surveillance equippcounyry on Earth was surprised lime that and too 5 hours to get 45 mes to count the attack.. It makes zero sense..

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor Barlow

..any evidence for that scurrulous slander against Galloway?

Sean McGabriel
Sean McGabriel
5 months ago

I know it’s fashionable for left liberals to express cynicism and scornfully dismiss George Galloway as an opportunist. I don’t see it that way. He has been a consistent advocate of the old style left wing politics which resonated with me since my youth. George Galloway for all his undoubted faults is recognizable to me as the type of authentic voice which once abounded in the Labour movement, from the same oratorical lineage as Willie Gallacher MP, Mick McGahey, Jimmy Reid, and Jim Airlie. I would be delighted to hear his voice at Westminster again.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
5 months ago

The curse of colonialism is akin to the curse of slavery.

Alan Gore
Alan Gore
5 months ago

All this, in a town that is literally a five-mile walk from my birthplace. How things have changed!

S B
S B
5 months ago

The author must’ve forgotten to mention that rape (and thieving, lying, extorting and terrorizing) are all allowed, encouraged or mandated under Islam, as they handily wrote it down and have based their business plan on these manuals for over a thousand years.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
5 months ago

Pakistan expelled Two Million Afghans and sent them back home ‘to their own country’. That’s how it’s done, folks.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
5 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

They only had to drive them over the border, we would have to catapult them some 5,000 miles.

William Amos
William Amos
5 months ago

One thing so many anxious observers in the Secular or Christian West seem unaware of is the brittleness and fissipariousness of the seeming monolith we observe as Islamic ‘unity’. Labour knows this. Galloway knows this better, as he shows when he plays on the class, caste, ethnic and linguistic differences within the Islamic Bloc to carve off his own electorate. He must have learned it in the religious and socialist Glasgow of his political youth. He is the Fox to Labours Hedgehog. Israel, and its handmaid of antisemitism, is really the one and only cause which unites the much vaunted Ummah.
Israel is their Carthage. Israel Delenda Est they cry. We’ll, what then?

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago
Reply to  William Amos

Now you’re confusing Judaism with Zionism and clearly unaware of religious differences within both Judaism AND Zionism.. try less surmise and more research.. you’ll be amazed!

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
5 months ago

Not the first attempt to smear Galloway and will not be the last I’ll warrant.. and yes, while George is given to hyperbole he is still one of the the most honest politicians in the UK if most the most honest after Jeremy Corbyn. He is also peace-loving (hard to attack him there I guess) and opposed to genocide and the supply of lethal UK murder weapons to the demonic Satanyahu regime (granted many Brits support the genocide).. but that too must be worth a few votes.
I pray he wins in Rochdale if only to reverse Labour’s support for genocide (eg Starmers support for denying Palestinian women and children food and water!)..

Hazel Gazit
Hazel Gazit
5 months ago

Galloway’s accusation to Blair is a perfect description of the people he now claims to represent.

Gayle Rosenthal
Gayle Rosenthal
5 months ago

Hmmmm …. nothing good ever comes from Islam. On the other hand …. everything that is good … Torah, Bible, Constitutions …. came from the Hebrews and Israel. It’s a mystery to me why this is still a mystery. Gaza is a collection of Ottoman Arab imperialists who never invented anything but the word “Palestine”, never had national borders, and never had any leaders except Muhammad and Arafat and now Hamas. Maybe you’d understand better by thinking about David and Goliath ? Good and Evil ? The majority Muslim, Christians and Secularites can’t seem to get over their covetous envy of just about everything Jews brought to humanity, which is basically the concept of humanity itself.
Don’t blame me for being off – topic. The title of this article is “When Gaza came to Rochdale.” The clash of civilizations is real and it’s not about your national origin or skin color. It’s about human decency. Gaza lacks human decency because Islam has rendered the people heartless, brainless and intolerant.

William Brand
William Brand
5 months ago

You can’t have both Jews and Moslems in the same party. The liberal Jew will get out of bed a progressive, be threatened with genocide and go to bed a hard right conservative or flee to Israel. Note that if the Moslems get to be a majority, they will make all other religions non-citizens in an effort to force conversions. Ask the Coptic minority in Egypt about their citizenship in their native country. This is their standard missionary practice. They traditionally do it by military conquest but will also try it using immigration.

0 0
0 0
5 months ago

Could the UnHerd editors please stop using sentences from the essays as sub headings and placing them under the para in which they appear? The effect is very off-putting – as if the authors were repeating themselves or highlighting their own remarks in a “yes I said that” style. It might work before the para with a suitable change of fonts but this is just an editorial c**k-up which – crucially – applies quite unnecessary emphasis to the phrases echoed in this egegrious way. Thanks for listening.

Anthony Roe
Anthony Roe
4 months ago

It is curious, how with war and injustice all around the world it is only when Jews are involved that the spittle-flecked ones are roused from their torpor.