How can a country as sophisticated as the United States botch executions with such monotonous regularity? On 17 November 2022, the State of Alabama tried and failed to kill Kenneth Eugene Smith, who had spent 34 years on death row after admitting to the murder-for-hire killing of a pastor’s wife in 1988. The executioners poked and prodded Smith for four hours, trying to find a vein for lethal injection, and only stopped when it became clear they would not get the job done before the midnight deadline.
Now, Alabama has come up with a new way of killing him. last Thursday, the state Supreme Court ruled that Smith will be executed via nitrogen gas — despite his lawyers arguing he should not be subjected to a painful execution attempt for a second time. While death by nitrogen has been legal since 2018, it has never been used on an inmate. If he is subjected to this novelty, Smith will be a human experiment.
Why does the American justice system find it so hard to kill people? The answer lies partly in how its execution methods are conceived in the first place. The nitrogen gas method was not based on decades of scientific research — instead, it was inspired by a remarkably cavalier BBC documentary, How to Kill a Human Being (2008), in which British Tory MP Michael Portillo, a man with no expertise in the area, tested all the established execution systems then in use, finding each one wanting. At the end of the film, he travelled to the Center for Man and Aviation in Soesterberg, the Netherlands, to learn about the impact of oxygen deprivation on Dutch pilots at high altitude. This proved to be the inspiration for his new, ideal form of execution: Nitrogen Hypoxia, recently championed by Alabama, Mississippi and Oklahoma. It’s as if nobody realised the difference between some carefully controlled and voluntary play acting in a Dutch air force base and the state systematically putting a human being to death against his will.
Each execution method the US comes up with seems worse than the last. Over the past 150 years, executioners have relied on a variety of inhumane, scientifically dubious technique to kill people, starting with the Electric Chair. On 6 August 1890, William Kemmler became the first person executed in New York’s Electric Chair. It’s inventor, Alfred Southwick, a dentist and a Quaker, promised that electricity would provide a quicker and more reliable death — and yet the horror stories began with its first victim. The New York Times reported that as Kemmler was cooked to death “an awful odor began to permeate the death chamber, and then, as though to cap the climax of this fearful sight, it was seen that the hair under and around the electrode on the head and the flesh under and around the electrode at the base of the spine was singeing”. The Chair was used for a century after that: I was a witness to the phenomenon myself, and I can still see a black-and-white image of my client Nicky Ingram as he was tortured to death in Georgia on 7 April 1995.
Next up was the gas chamber, first used by Nevada in the case of Gee Jon on 8 February 1924. It would only be a few years before the Nazis brought this method into disrepute, though it persisted in the US past the execution of my client, Edward Earl Johnson, in 1987. At the time, what upset the audience as much as anything was footage of the jocular guards experimenting by gassing a black bunny rabbit, bred on the Parchman Penitentiary grounds, to stand in for Edward. I subsequently sued (and won) on the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz to put an end to the Chamber in Mississippi.
Starting in the early Seventies, the States were turning to lethal injection as a supposedly kinder, gentler form of judicial killing. This could hardly be barbaric, we were told, when it was used to put down animals. However, it gradually became clear that executions were being botched more often than ever. Joe Nathan Jones once held the record, as his Alabama execution on 28 July 2022 took more than three hours rather than the advertised seven and a half minutes. But four months later, Alabama would fail to kill Smith at all.
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SubscribeAs per usual with pieces like this, the victims are dismissed and forgotten.
Teary eyed, the author thinks about how his client, Nicky Ingram, was despatched without having a final cigarette, Ingram’s victims are not even a distant thought.
On June 3rd 1983, Ingram turned up at the house of J C Sawyer, a 55 year old retired military veteran, and his wife, Mary.
After threatening to “blow their brains out” Mrs. Sawyer gave Ingram $60 and J.C. gave him the keys to his blue-and-white Chevrolet pickup truck
Ingram then marched them outside and into the woods which surrounded their home. Using rope and some wire, Ingram tied his victims’ hands behind them and then tied them to a tree. He told Mrs. Sawyer to remember a tattoo that she had noticed on his arm because it was going to get her killed.
As the Sawyers begged for their lives, the defendant continued his threats, saying that he liked to torture people as he took off his shirt, tore it in two, and stuffed the two halves into their mouths. Then he shot them both in the head. J.C. Sawyer was killed; however, Mrs. Sawyer was only wounded. She fell to the ground and pretended she was dead until she heard the truck drive off. Realizing that her husband was dead, Mrs. Sawyer managed to untie herself and went to a neighbor’s house to call the police.
Ingram got what he deserved.
Thank you for that balance.
“My client and my friend!”
I wish they’d released him on condition he lived with this ‘lawyer’ and his family.
And don’t forget his other client Edward Earl Johnson – rapist and cop killer.
This is the sentence that stuck with me as I waded through the usual middle-aged-male, low-empathy drivel that is UnHerd BTL.
BTL?
Below the line. Common term among Guardianistas.
The moral sickness of the “progressive” who has been indoctrinated to extend compassion first for those that commit evil acts against innocent people, rather than to their victims.
I agree, the author has a touch of Stockholm syndrome. But the reason why the death penalty should be ended isn’t because these guys don’t deserve it.
Its because we don’t deserve to be like them.
Delivering justice to a person who has taken an innocent life, by taking away their life, does not make you like them.
A kidnapper abducts a child and places them in a cell for 10 years. He feeds them and takes care of their basic needs. The kidnapper is caught and the judge sentences him to ten years in prison. Would you consider the sentencing judge to be acting on the same morally equivalent level as the kidnapper; to be “like them”?
I didn’t say just like them. And there is the issue of, has an innocent person ever been legally executed?
They should be put down like the rabid dogs they are. We need more executions in this country. They only get out of prison if they are not on death row. Life sentences are not life sentences in this country.
Jaywalkers beware.
Ingram got off lightly if you ask me.
“I don’t like the term “criminal”. It is a word we use to try to make ourselves feel superior to another group, yet we none of us would look very good if we were assessed based solely upon the nastiest thing we ever did in life.”
Most of us don’t murder people, Mr Stafford Smith.
Agreed. Nobody wants to be judged by the worst things they’ve ever done or the worst decisions we’ve ever made, but if every bad choice we’ve ever made were suddenly revealed, I’m confident I’d get off with a few traffic tickets and maybe some finger wagging for being such a jack-ass throughout my teenage years. I have to think that would be the case for most folks. We should remember that few people end up on death row. It generally requires something particularly awful.
Thank you. That was particularly cringe-worthy. I’m not a fan of capital punishment BUT there’s a legitimate reason for labeling certain behaviors as crimes and their perpetrators as criminals. Has nothing to do with the author’s contention about superiority. I’m pretty sure that if one of his erstwhile “clients” brutally raped and murdered a loved one, he’d consider it criminal behavior and a crime.
There’s economical with the truth and then outright misleading of readers.
Nitrogen gas asphyxiation is well researched, both signs (responses) and effects, in industries that use artificial atmospheres including medicine and deep sea diving. The effects of and pathway to death are also well documented by coroners due to the large number of industrial accidents and “homemade” nitrogen gas suicides. The hypercapnic alarm response (the way your body warns you of suffocation) is incredibly well researched. And lastly vetinary science has investigated nitrogen gas euthenasia in the usual human analogues.
The writer must presumably be aware of legal euthenasia in Canada and parts of Europe. (I am aware and I’m not a self-promoting expert in the field of euthenasia.) If the writer truly believes there to be “barbarism of any execution method” then the dispatching of tens of thousands of the sick and the frail must keep him awake at night. I doubt it does though because he knows there are methods of euthenising that are not barbaric. It’s the same effect and result, only his chosen symantics differ.
And how does Canada’s MAID euthenise? Three drugs: to sedate, to paralyse (cisatracurium), and to kill. Clearly the author is frankly making it up when he writes the paralytic used in executions “is for the spectator”.
Alas, perhaps the lawyer is simply lawyering and that’s why his facts are off. As the finest justice in New York once said, “Never mind the facts, we’re here to get paid”. Appeals and wrangling over semantics is a nice earner.
Thanks for putting the record straight !
The biggest danger of the death penalty, seems to me, is the danger you have the wrong person.
Sentencing a person to ‘literally’ life imprisonment could be said for some to be a worse penalty, perhaps the person being sentenced should have the choice of ‘Life’ or the ‘Death’ penalty
Agreed. The author is clearly opposed to the death penalty on principle (a belief I share for modern, industrialized states who are perfectly capable of long term imprisonment). Or perhaps, as you suggest, his opposition is for professional reasons. However, there’s no excuse for lying.
There’s nothing barbaric about oxygen deprivation. It’s not the same as strangulation, in which your body fights to breath. You are breathing fine and don’t realize there’s anything wrong until you fall asleep. This is the EXACT reason you have a carbon monoxide detector in your home — because you can’t tell if there’s not enough oxygen in the air until you pass out.
They are not capable of long term imprisonment. Unless they are on death row, they can be released on parole or even pardoned.
It is painless. I was huffing helium once to sound like Donald Duck and the first things that happen is that you get light-headed and then your vision fails. First there is the tunnel vision and then the colors seem to fade. Painless and this guy is a weenie. Why did they publish this garbage?
I’d check how to spell “euthanasia” if I were you!
Are you an anaesthetist by any chance Ms Clover?
While working 17 years in a prison, I realized that some people could be charming and seem likeable and yet be capable of appalling behaviour. I had opportunities to read minutes of testimony in murder trial proceedings and sit in on interviews with murders and rapists. Some of those insights haunt me to this day, even though I have been retired for over 20 years. Another thing I learned is that many of the people who committed those crimes demonstrated some residual conscience by energetically and artfully minimizing their culpability.
“…some say Jesse Tafero’s head caught fire..”. Some people say they were abducted by aliens. People often repeat unsubstantiated statements to advance whatever their agenda is.
Clive Stafford Smith doesn’t like the word “criminal”. I don’t like the words “murder” and “rape”. Sadly, those words exist to adequately describe the phenomenon of actions perpetuated by some poorly socialized individuals towards some of their unfortunate fellow humans.
People who commit heinous crimes are usually sufficiently emotionally deviant as to make the likelihood of them being safe to remain at large a dubious proposition at best. Incarceration for life adds an additional significant cost to the society that has already expended considerable amounts through law enforcement, criminal justice systems, social welfare systems, and prisons. The thought of them idling away their days must be an ongoing source of pain for the shattered lives they have left in their wake. Another disturbing aspect of incarceration for life is the corrosive effect it has on some impressionable young inmates. I watched some some young men doing shorter sentences gathering around a notorious violent murderer and gazing at him with expressions that could be best described as respect. Coexistence with him “normalized” to some extent actions that should never be normal.
If murderers experience some stress or discomfort in the last moments of their disastrous lives, it is hard for me to lose much sleep over it.
Very well put, and especially credible due to your experience. Thank you.
Many law-abiding citizens cannot count on housing, food or the educational opportunities routinely offered those incarcerated for life. As you note, that option not only burdens society, but adds to the pain of victims’ families, whose tax dollars help pay for it.
A long drop with a short stop, problem solved
You’re welcome
I agree, I’ve never understood the Americans fascination with dragging it out. When Britain had capital punishment it usually took a minute to get from walking out the cell door to the trapdoor opening. In America they have an audience and turn it into a spectacle.
Surely if you have capital punishment you have a duty to do it as quickly and cleanly as possible
Completely agree. Singapore still hang convicts at dawn as far as I know without any hitches.
Even that Australian who was on crutches.
Get your facts right. You are referring to Kevin Barlow and Brian Chambers, hanged in Malaysia, not Singapore, in 1986, for attempted drug smuggling. Barlow, the one who used crutches, was born in Britain.
Temper temper old chap.
I was near enough considering it was nearly 40 years ago.
Are you by any chance a relative of either of these men?
Good for them. You are expected to follow the rules in Asian countries.
Indeed, there are plenty of ways to kill available – gas and captive bolt are also recommended humane methods of killing animals. Perhaps the popularity of the “my body my choice” mantra could be applied to enable the condemned man to chose his own method of being dispatched from a menu of available execution methods. Death by carcinogenic cigarettes would, of course, not be one of the options.
I don’t know what the worst thing the author has done in his life but I don’t suppose many of us have engaged in murder outside the context of war.
If it’s in war fighting, it’s not murder. Killing is the accurate term.
Surely England’s public hangings were enjoyed by the crowds they drew for centuries . . .
For centuries there wasn’t much other public entertainment available.
Unlike Ancient Rome for example where you had the Theatre, the Odeon, the Amphitheater, the Stadium, and last but NOT least the Circus.
“Ave Caesar, morituri te salutamus”- Hail Caesar we who are about to die salute you’. Happy days indeed!
Hanging, burned at the stake, beheading, hung drawn and quartered, they were all entertainment at the time. However I like to think civilisation has moved on slightly from the Middle Ages
Why?
Evolution doesn’t move that fast, besides you can get all this stuff on Netflix etc!
A different form of ‘box set’?
No it should be in full public view.
You cannot have the State murdering people behind closed doors.
There was also the firing squad, although that was mostly used in military tribunals, if I recall correctly.
I am not a big proponent of capital punishment, but some crimes are so heinous, and some criminals so despicable that the death penalty is appropriate.
This is a rather extraordinary thing for a qualified and practicing lawyer to be saying:
“I don’t like the term “criminal”. It is a word we use to try to make ourselves feel superior to another group, yet we none of us would look very good if we were assessed based solely upon the nastiest thing we ever did in life.”
Is he in the right profession ?
Clive Stafford Smith seems typical then of many in this field – at the start they undoubtedly did some good work. But the longer time goes on and the closer they get to making and influencing laws, the further their net contribution to society becomes negative. Some people are natural and gifted protestors and critics – but not legislators.
The emotive tone of the piece is a bit of a giveaway. If a legal case can’t be fully argued rationally without this, one should be sceptical.
I assume it is possible to have a fairly painless death – people do choose voluntary euthenasia – so there are ways to do this. I happen to disagree with capital punishment in principle rather than in practice. But we shouldn’t conflate the two (as this piece seems to intentionally do).
There are any number of ways, Mr Stafford Smith, to kill the killers. Unfortunately you and your ilk use lawfare to stop the murderers and rapists getting their just desserts. Shame on you.
If everyone is so determined that it be humane, then surely you could simply copy the euthanasia methods of the countries where it’s legal.
Or is that a bit awkward?
There’s a reason most countries have always used hanging, and that’s because it’s quick cheap and instant
“I don’t like the term “criminal”. It is a word we use to try to make ourselves feel superior to another group”
I am superior to rapists and murderers. Perhaps the bleeding heart author isn’t.
Why do you refer to Dutch airforce “playacting” ?
During my RAF Pilot training more than 50 years ago we were shown the effects of altitude. Several of us were placed in a chamber with a doctor. We all had oxygen masks and were in pairs. The pressure in the chamber was reduced and one of each pair was given a task and told to remove their mask. Over the next few minutes the effects became obvious as e.g. the people signing their name wrote increasingly illegibly. We were then helped to put our masks back on and the pairing switched and the same thing happened.
If the pressure had been reduced further, or the oxygen replaced by nitrogen we would very soon have been unconscious and eventually we would have died.
The point of the exercise was to show that you had no awareness of the effects. You thought you were still writing clearly. There was no distress or pain.
This was no play acting.
The indifference shown by the author to the victims of crime is sickening.
Unless you dismiss the notion of culpability entirely, it’s clear that some people deserve to die.
Even from a purely utilitarian perspective, it’s better to kill a murderer than to risk release and recidivism.
Of course, we need to be very sure of guilt, and we should kill quickly. Hanging, guillotine and firing squad all seem to do the job.
I am against the death penalty, but I suppose if you can bang people up for the rest of their life, you can kill them. But an honest method would be something that is guaranteed to be as quick and painless as possible, but does *not* make it look pretty for the onlookers. The guillotine, say, or a 20mm shell through the head. If you are not willing to accept the blood and gore and have to have someone make it look ‘nice’ for you, then you have no business being for the death penalty.
Can we just go back to firing squads?
That should be reserved for military men only.
The good old days:-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRLsxkVSH8E
British long drop hanging was easily the most humane method.
We are assured that medically assisted death is invariably quick, painless and dignified, even though in practice professional executioners cannot achieve this.
The main difference is many drug companies now won’t sell their product if it is to be used in capital punishment, hence the reason the Americans are now scrambling for other methods after numerous botched executions using different cocktails of drugs
But will these drug companies supply their products for use in legalised euthanasia?
It’s up to them who they sell their drugs to
Yes, they will. Gross hypocrisy, to sell drugs for killing innocent people who “choose” to die, while piously refusing to sell drugs to kill those who have committed horrible crimes. And as the grounds for legal euthanasia expands, as in Switzerland or Canada, to include people who are physically disabled, mentally ill, or simply depressed, the stance of the drug companies becomes even more morally reprehensible.
I completely agree.
You forgot the main cause of botched executions : lefties like you who create every obstruction to the process, then complain it’s not working.
There are countless ways to perform an execution, including 100% easy and fast ones. Just ask your local communist camp manager.
I wil not care about how awfull executions are until criciticism comes from people who support the death penalty and propose simpler execution methods.
Canada has developped a lot of “medically assisted” “end of life protocols” that “uphold the highest dignity of the departed”. Let’s use that for a positive purpose !
Firing squads seemed to work well. Perhaps the State has simply grown too squeamish about blood — not an issue shared by the murderers being put to death.
Smith’s own squeamishness about the word “criminal” undermines any legitimacy he might have as a death-penalty opponent. Of course “criminal” doesn’t describe the whole of a person, any more than “attorney” or “judge” or “executioner.” But it is a perfectly accurate and relevant term for a convicted offender in any constructive conversation about crime and punishment. If we can’t speak forthrightly about reality, why speak at all?
I have worked in a slaughterhouse and it was possible to slaughter animals quickly and humanely. I can honestly say Ihave never caused an animal to suffer. By contrast, I was once one of the first on the scene at a RTA. I had to watch whilst the crash victim screamed in agony. When Fire & Rescue arrived and tried to cut him out his agony was even worse. Mercifully, he passed out, but was dead before his body was pulled out. Had I seen an animal die like that I would never eat meat again.
For most of us “…the nastiest thing we ever did in life…” isn’t killing someone for profit, convenience or sadistic amusement and sexual gratification…
The phrase ‘I don’t like the term “criminal”‘ is like the 13th stroke of the clock. It’s not just weird, it casts doubt on all that has gone before.
The biggest danger of the death penalty, seems to me, is the danger you have the wrong person.
Sentencing a person to ‘literally’ life imprisonment, could be said for some to be a worse penalty, perhaps the person being sentenced should have the choice of ‘Life’ or the ‘Death’ penalty
Executing the wrong person is, indeed, a problem although it is becoming rarer as forensic science improves.
But you rarely hear of the inverse of that view – not executing the correct person. A significant portion* of convicted killers go on to kill again, either in prison or after release.
How to minimise both issues? Only execute people who have killed more than once.
*From BARD (an AI app): “According to a 2019 study by the National Institute of Justice, 8% of released prisoners in the United States were convicted of a new homicide within 10 years of their release. The study found that the rate of recidivism was highest among prisoners who had been convicted of murder, with 14% of murderers being convicted of a new murder within 10 years of their release.”
In the 10 years before abolition – between 1955 and 1965 – there were 41 executions in England and Wales. Despite repeated legal challenges by activists since 1965, none of these convictions have been ruled unsafe.
In the 10 years between 2013 and 2023, 13 people* have been murdered by men previously convicted of murder and released after serving their sentence.
*This data is hard to get and the government understandably doesn’t publish any figures. These figures come from men who have been handed Whole Life Orders due to repeat murders. The actual number is almost certainly higher.
Having lived through the post war ‘hanging era’ I can say that the opposition such as it was came from the same small bunch of cranks. Wearing duffle coats and plimsolls they gathered outside places such a Holloway much to the derision of the rest of us.
The only appalling blunder as I recall was the hanging of poor old Timothy Evans*in 1950.
However what is the death of one man when compared to the entirely preventable deaths of 13 that you speak of? Utter (woke) madness in my humble opinion.
(* off course the hangings if Joyce and Amery were probably unnecessarily vindictive, and the that of Bentley just plain stupid.)
Mr Stafford Smith with his corduroy jacket, steel-framed glasses and Guardian puff-pieces would have fitted in well with the duffle coat wearers, I reckon.
Of the 650 executions between 1900-1965 – four have subsequently been deemed unsafe and quashed – Timothy Evans, Derek Bentley, George Kelly, Mahmood Hussein Mattan. None of these men would have been convicted of murder in a modern court with forensics etc. In fact all of them date from a short period straight after the war that might have something to do with it (1949-1953).
An interesting point I discovered while looking into these things – Michael Adebowale, one of the men who murdered Lee Rigby on camera, avoided a whole-life sentence and received a 45-year minimum term instead which means he will be out when he is 67 if not before!
I can still NOT understand how one Harry Roberts who shot and killed three Policemen in 1966 was finally released after nearly 48 years imprisonment.
It makes a complete mockery of our justice system.
I’ve no moral objection to it, there are plenty of people who deserve it for the things they’ve done. However there’s 3 reasons I wouldn’t want to see it reintroduced.
Firstly I don’t believe it’s much of a deterrent. I think most premeditated crime is committed in the belief the perpetrator won’t get caught rather than what would happen if they did. America still has capital punishment and is a much more violent place than most of Europe that scrapped it decades ago after all.
Secondly I don’t believe it would be applied evenly. It would be used much more readily against the poor than the rich and powerful in my opinion. This often happens already in sentencing so I see no reason why it wouldn’t also happen in regards to capital punishment.
Lastly if you prosecute and hang an innocent person you’ve no way of rectifying the mistake later down the track once you’ve realised your mistake
There’s certainly one person in the equation who it deters very well.
Undoubtedly the finest method of execution ever, was introduced during the French Revolution by one Dr Joseph-Ignace Guillotin. It pains me as an Englishman to know that the French got there first with a machine that works first time, and every time,*and is utterly painless.
Off course Joseph-Ignace did NOT invent the machine, the Sc*tch had one in the 17th century as did Harrogate, Yorks, but it was Joseph-Ignace’s insistence on a painless method of execution to be employed nationwide that changed everything, and not only in France, as the ‘ master race ‘for example were avid users of the machine up until 1945.
Perhaps the real problem is the American obsession with modernity at the cost of compassion?
(* Not all of Mr Albert Pierrepoint’s hangings were quite so successful as the evidence from Hamelin sadly shows.)
Painless? Perhaps, but the reports of the severed heads trying to speak for a while after the blade fell, and what we know about how long the brain continues to function after the heart stops in more ordinary deaths make clear it was not without suffering.
Our best evidence is that nitrogen hypoxia is completely painless — the sensation one is suffocating comes from the build up of CO2 in the blood, which does not happen in nitrogen hypoxia.
Do you have a ‘source’ for those talking heads?
I would be most interested to know more.
It was reported of both Charlotte Corday, executed by guillotine in 1793, and of Anne Boleyn after her beheading with a sword in 1536.
Surely just lips trembling? After all the vocal cords were ‘detached’ by then.
Priapism was also very common amongst hanged men, and even worse by some accounts.
Mr. Smith, how did the victims of these murderers die? That should have been the article you wrote.
While in general I am opposed to the death penalty, I can say that no murderer who was ever executed has ever gone on to commit murder again. At least, outside the Child’s Play movies.
Why not just shoot them in the head from close range? This would usually work, and if it didn’t on the first shot, you could just shoot them a few more times to be sure.
Ah, the old Chekist method.
I just hate these “human rights” garbage people. They make me sick and I could not even be in the same room with them. There is no concern for the real victims. Why do they love murderers so much? It’s like Ayn Rand says, “You owe your love to those who don’t deserve it, and the less they deserve it, the more love you owe them—the more loathsome the object, the nobler your love—” It fits this guy completely. “Human rights” is a fraudulent term used by some grifters like this one.
The writer forgets -if he ever knew- the parable of the Frog and the Scorpion. I’ve known men in the joint, too. And they are criminals, make no mistake, and parse me no precious terminology, please. Perfectly humane deaths are possible (Canada is administering them in their thousands these days. I wonder what he thinks about that?). But a case against the death penalty must spring from other concerns. Mine include the danger of over-zealous and political prosecutors, and a general onus against granting excessive power to the State. Further, a sufficient death penalty, to my satisfaction, rides on the hip of every cop in the country, and of many civilians as well. That said, I am prepared to shed very few tears over the death of the Nickys of this world.
This is so common with the “lawfare” activists it’s become a trope:
They make a practice, whether it is administering capital justice or providing energy or enforcing the law against shoplifting, so utterly cumbersome our systems cannot accommodate them. Then they blame that which they’ve made impossible.
Whey inevitably cause failure, it’s the system they want changed that’s the problem: “Oh, we can’t use N2 to execute people!”, “Oh, our grid can’t handle the climate change!”, “Oh, we can’t do anything to stop the stealing because we’re just foundationally racist!”
We shouldn’t be using N2. We should be using rope.
Hanging done properly is pretty quick and probably as painless as any.
Death by hypoxia IE nitrogen has no feeling – much like underground deaths.
On the evening of Sept. 4, 2000, a Beech Super King Air 200 struck the ground near Burketown, Queensland, Australia, about five hours after departing on a charter flight from Perth to Leonora, both in Western Australia (see Figure 1, page 2). The pilot and the seven passengers were killed. The aircraft was destroyed.
https://flightsafety.org › ap_o…PDF
Pilot Incapacitation by Hypoxia Cited in Fatal Five-hour Flight of Beech King Air
Air is 79% nitrogen it’s a smaller molecule than oxygen. Hence in aircraft the rule is ALWAYS PUT YOUR MASK ON FIRST before your child.
It is a comfortable humane way to die.
Air hunger is caused by being unable to get rid of CO².
“the Hippocratic Oath means that no medical professional — sworn to “do no harm” — can take part.”
Maybe fly in some of those kill crazy Canadian doctors.
Depressed, no problem. Murderer and rapist- what about my oath.
Strangely I am anti death penalty but the hypocrisy is stunning.
“Nobody deserves to die by nitrogen gas”.
I can think of a few who deserve to die far more horribly.
I found this an interesting piece but it goes around in a circle right back to the old European methods of guillotine and hanging which are no better or worse in their efficiency that the American approach, while some militaries still use the firing squad. All three methods are a cold expression of state violence which is what capital punishment can only be, a brutal business.
The issue of crime and punishment is more complicated than this author would like us to believe. He considers individual cases and laments individual lives lost, and is clearly disgusted by the spectacle of executions. I mostly agree with him on this limited basis. Would that it were so simple as deciding the morality and ethics of individual practices and cases. Alas, it is not so. Criminal justice systems neither exist for the crime, nor for justice. They exist to keep civil society civil through an orderly procedure for identifying, prosecuting, and punishing criminal acts so that society can function efficiently. If robbers aren’t caught, put in prison, and punished sufficiently in a particular area, businesses will close because theft represents an additional expense. If domestic abuse is not recognized and prosecuted, it becomes widespread and victims have no recourse, as was indeed the case in recent history. If murderers and rapists are not punished severely, people will lose respect for the justice system and seek retribution outside the system. It wasn’t that long ago that blood feuds, dueling, and vigilante justice were common in the USA. If the system fails to deter criminality and/or satisfy the victims of crime, civil society breaks down in a number of ways, leading to a more or less chaotic free for all. For better or worse, and whatever the reason, America has a lot of crime, and the more crime there is, the greater the force required to keep that crime in check to ensure civil order.
Take a gander at this article https://unherd.com/2023/10/californias-criminals-need-an-audience/. This is what happens when law and law enforcement are insufficient to the task and bleeding hearts who weep equally for criminals and victims place ideology and their own moral/ethical standards above civil order and the common good. Crime becomes an everyday occurrence that people begin to accept as normal. Say some vigilante appeared one day and shot one of the robbers? Would the bystanders be condemning them or quietly cheering them on. Suppose some organized street gang did something similar? Suppose some enterprising criminal consolidated control of the criminal groups and instituted some informal system of protection and limiting the worst aspects of crime or confined it to certain neighborhoods? We aren’t nearly as far from social chaos as we imagine, and as Californians are learning the hard way.
I don’t love the death penalty. I wouldn’t want to witness an execution, nor would I want to participate in one. It’s an ugly thing, but sometimes we have to do unpleasant or ugly things because the alternative is worse. Still, somebody has to do those things, and I would hope that it is mostly people who, as the author says, sees their actions as what they are, awful acts but necessary as part of a greater struggle. I would hope they perform their jobs dutifully and not gleefully. War is also ugly, but most of us can imagine circumstances where war would be necessary. We recognize the necessity of soldiers and we recognize what they do is kill the enemy. We recognize that the work they do is difficult and dangerous and we rightly honor them for it. Criminal justice is no different. Police and prison guards are not that different from soldiers. They too are part of a broader fight between civilization and lawlessness that no society can afford to lose. Both war and criminal justice are exercises in the choosing of lesser evils and awful decisions on what sacrifices must be made for what gains. The author, however, ignores all of this as casually as he ignores the victims of these convicted murderers. There is no balance of the rights of criminals vs. victims, and neither is there any recognition of the broader implications of criminal justice on the fabric of society. I would be more inclined to listen to the author’s opinion if he spoke to something other than his personal distaste for executions as they are and have been conducted. His disapproval of the methods of execution and the motivations of those performing them do not constitute a viable argument against the practice itself. In other words, this is bleeding heart nonsense.
Death by hypoxia IE nitrogen has no feeling – much like underground deaths.
On the evening of Sept. 4, 2000, a Beech Super King Air 200 struck the ground near Burketown, Queensland, Australia, about five hours after departing on a charter flight from Perth to Leonora, both in Western Australia (see Figure 1, page 2). The pilot and the seven passengers were killed. The aircraft was destroyed.
https://flightsafety.org › ap_o…PDF
Pilot Incapacitation by Hypoxia Cited in Fatal Five-hour Flight of Beech King Air
Air is 79% nitrogen it’s a smaller molecule than oxygen. Hence in aircraft the rule is ALWAYS PUT YOUR MASK ON FIRST before your child.
It is a compostable humane way to die.
I was never a full-time anaesthetist but I’ve given several hundred anaesthetics and I know enough to say that the person who cannot be anaesthetised has yet to be born. The death row problems arise because 1) murderers who are former injecting drug addicts often have no easily accessible veins. That’s not a problem for proper anaesthetists, who know where to find invisible deep veins but can also use intramuscular anaesthetics (standard battlefield surgery procedure in extremis) or inhaled ones. And 2) because most doctors and skilled nurses refuse to do executions or are forbidden to do them by their professional organisations. The job is thus left to unskilled prison staff who might find even normal veins a challenge. And 3) because prisons are rigid and bureaucratic and therefore unlike anaesthetists, their executioners are restricted to rigid and outdated drug protocols.
Whatever your views about Medical Aid in Dying (MAID), Nell Clover is right that in Canada it involves first, a massive dose of anaesthetic that immediately renders the patient very deeply unconscious for many minutes, followed after unconsciousness by a standard anaesthetic muscle-paralysing drug that stops respiration and therefore oxygen. Even without anaesthesia, lack of oxygen in the blood itself causes unconsciousness in seconds (as does breathing pure nitrogen or helium rather than oxygen) and after 4-5 minutes, it causes irreversible brain damage that permanently prevents the return of consciousness. After about 10 minutes, lack of oxygen stops the heart. The alleged ‘poison’ is an injection of potassium chloride sometimes given to an unconscious and nearly dead MAID patient to stop the heart more quickly and thus reduce the time that family members have to wait before death is declared.
In universal veterinary practice and in countries where it is licensed for human use, pentobarbitone is used as a single drug for animal euthanasia and also for MAID (= voluntary euthanasia or assisted suicide). When doctors had to deal with barbiturate overdoses before they were phased out as sleeping pills in the 1970s, patients who took more than 3 grams rarely reached hospital alive and most of the others were unconscious for 1-2 days. I treated many of them. In Switzerland, the oral dose for MAID is 15 (fifteen) grams. Work it out. When that same dose is given intravenously, breathing stops without any additional drugs in less than a minute and the heart stops a minute or two later. A doctor called Joel Zivot is the source of some of the stories about botched executions. They are widely recycled by the anti-MAID brigade (most, but not all, bible-thumpers) but he failed to reply to en email making the points I made above.
I too think that civilised societies can do without capital punishment, at least in peacetime and I’m sure people like Stafford-Clark and Zivot mean well but their zeal has led them to deny the facts of physiology. Breathing pure nitrogen or any other inert gas causes rapid, painless unconsciousness and death in less than 10 minutes unless there is a quick return to breathing air or pure oxygen, as numerous industrial deaths confirm. Somewhere on YouTube is a short video of a woman at a party inhaling from a helium balloon. After a few seconds, she falls to the floor and is briefly unconscious until her lungs fill with air again.
What is wrong with hanging?
Unfortunately, the author’s undoubted insights into botched executions lead him into a odious progressivism and concern for the worst criminals, which he gives away. In my view “mad” and “bad” probably are not as clear cut as the law tends to hold. But we put down rabid dogs anyway.
With modern day ultrasound I’m encouraged to use do obtain vascular access in heart surgery, it’s nearly impossible to place a line in one’s internal jugular vein. Technology to the rescue of long suffering victims.