Just as Elizabeth I would have been disheartened to learn that she had lived during the Age of Shakespeare, I am sure that no living US president, from Jimmy Carter to Joe Biden, wants to be a footnote to Donald Trump. But I don’t make the rules. It seems very likely that historians of the future will agree that the presidency of Donald Trump, like those of William McKinley, Franklin Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan, marked the end of one American political era and the beginning of another.
The date dividing B.T. (Before Trump) and A.T. (After Trump) was June 16, 2015. On that day, America’s 45th president descended Trump Tower’s golden escalator to announce that he was running for the Republican nomination. Within hours, the traditional patterns of US politics were shattering and crystallising into new formations. Whether Trump is sent to jail by vengeful Democratic prosecutors, re-elected to the White House, or fades away playing golf in Florida, today, in the Year 8 A.T., America’s Left, Right and centre have all been redefined in relation to him.
To understand this transformation, one must first understand that Trumpism did not appear out of nowhere in 2015. The migration of the educated and affluent to the Democrats, as well as the white working class and more recently a minority of the non-white working class to the Republicans, dates back to the Sixties. Politically, it first manifested itself in the 1972 presidential election, in which white working-class Democratic voters switched and helped Richard Nixon win a landslide victory over George McGovern.
But this shift was far from fixed. Instead of building on Nixon’s Main Street populism and centrism, Ronald Reagan bequeathed the Republican Party to K Street neoconservatives who sought to build a post-Cold War American global empire ruled by Wall Street free marketeers. This was not what “Nixon Democrats” or “Reagan Democrats” were looking for. Alienated by an increasingly upscale and socially liberal Democratic party, many white working-class voters in the Northern industrial states, which would later vote for Trump, rallied behind the Texan billionaire Ross Perot in 1992, when, by denouncing the offshoring of US manufacturing jobs, he won 19% of the popular vote — more than any third-party candidate since former president Theodore Roosevelt had run as the Progressive Party candidate in 1912.
After winning fewer votes in his 1996 run, Perot withdrew from politics. His personal vehicle, the Reform Party, was contested by would-be successors, with its Right wing led by the “paleoconservative” populists Patrick Buchanan and former KKK leader David Duke, and its relative Left wing dominated by the TV wrestler Jesse Ventura and one Donald J. Trump. Trump withdrew from the Reform Party presidential race and Patrick Buchanan became its nominee in 2000. Ventura went on to become a one-term governor of Minnesota, while Trump became a — so far — one-term president of the United States.
In the following years, a strain of Nixonism-Perotism continued to exist in the Republican party, but it was represented by economically populist, socially conservative figures such as Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee. They were easily caricatured in the media and blacklisted by Republican donors. Trump, however, was able to win the nomination in spite of donor-class opposition because, like Perot, he could fund his own campaign (although at later stages he came to rely on other big donors as well).
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SubscribeThe real question is as simple for Americans as it is for Brits and Europeans: do we want to retain the nation state and therefore democracy or do we wish to be ruled by a global superclass answerable to nobody but their bankers?
Everything else is just waffle.
I think the global superclass own the bankers, too.
The bankers are superclass! Though not all superclass are bankers.. but they are all banksters and many are bast…
They are NOT Bankers!
The correct description is ‘Money Lenders’, always has been, always will be!
Incidentally they work in ‘Counting Houses’ and NOT Banks to be perfectly correct.
They are NOT Bankers!
The correct description is ‘Money Lenders’, always has been, always will be!
Incidentally they work in ‘Counting Houses’ and NOT Banks to be perfectly correct.
The bankers are superclass! Though not all superclass are bankers.. but they are all banksters and many are bast…
Bankers have not done so well recently
Jamie Dimon just stated that this is not the final bankers’ hour. Quite simplistic to see them as a unified powerful superblock, especially after the meltdowns of Credit Suisse, Silicon Valley Bank, and so on. Remember how hopeless and helpless the bankers were in 2008? Lehmann? Bear Stearns?
The head of SVB presided over two previous bank failures.. and will likely preside over one or two more.. like all vampires they are unkillable!
Really?
One of my sons has recently “ trousered” a ‘bonus’ of over £3million.
Completely undeserved, I might say.
Jamie Dimon just stated that this is not the final bankers’ hour. Quite simplistic to see them as a unified powerful superblock, especially after the meltdowns of Credit Suisse, Silicon Valley Bank, and so on. Remember how hopeless and helpless the bankers were in 2008? Lehmann? Bear Stearns?
The head of SVB presided over two previous bank failures.. and will likely preside over one or two more.. like all vampires they are unkillable!
Really?
One of my sons has recently “ trousered” a ‘bonus’ of over £3million.
Completely undeserved, I might say.
More like do we want to restore win-win (healthy) Classical Liberalism (Liberty) as our predominant philosophy, or revert to win-lose (dysfunctional) “social liberalism” (totalitarianism) in keeping with the vast majority of history?
It’s socialism for the bankers and austerity for the people.. it’s what we call a mixed economy! It resulted in a $50 trillion wealth transfer from working class to the super rich in the last 30 years.. that’s why US wages have stagnated and the super rich are now obscenely rich.. it’s not difficult to understand. You just need MSM to kowtow and endless propaganda concerning the enemies at the gate: Russia, China, Mexican migrants .. works every time. If your population is gullible, naive and/or stupid it is easier still.
It’s socialism for the bankers and austerity for the people.. it’s what we call a mixed economy! It resulted in a $50 trillion wealth transfer from working class to the super rich in the last 30 years.. that’s why US wages have stagnated and the super rich are now obscenely rich.. it’s not difficult to understand. You just need MSM to kowtow and endless propaganda concerning the enemies at the gate: Russia, China, Mexican migrants .. works every time. If your population is gullible, naive and/or stupid it is easier still.
Rather disappointed by the author of this article brushing so lightly over Trump’s achievements, which were sadly totally unravelled by Biden. Far from Biden continuing with Trump’s so-called populist policies, he actively returned to the left-wing Democratic establishment business as usual. Demented Biden is just a puppet for the US left. It is not just globalist bankers, who allegedly “rule” the world, but the big global institutions, led by unelected bureaucrats. Trump’s first executive orders were against a globalist cabal of corrupt UN institutions, which try to establish an Orwellian future for mankind. He first signed an executive order to get out of the Paris Agreement, trying to establish U.S.’ energy independence, and then he put a stop to funding the WHO (of course Gates tried to fill this gap with his own money). But sadly after Covid hit the States, Trump followed the advice of corrupt establishment people like Fauci and other advisers, who were in the pocket of big Pharma, to lock down the country and fast track the vaccines, paying billions to big Pharma in “Operation Warp Speed”. So Covid was his real downfall, and he can’t wriggle out of his biggest error and try to rewrite history by blaming his political rival DeSantis not to open up his State fast enough.
I hope that the U.S. will not elect a post Trumpian “populist” Biden, but a politician in Trump’s original mould (preferably without his huge narcissism), who can turn around the woke, leftish nightmare we are currently experiencing everywhere in the Western World.
Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize many times over. The Abraham Accords were a miracle of statesmanship.
Trump’s original and only mode is narcissism.
Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize many times over. The Abraham Accords were a miracle of statesmanship.
Trump’s original and only mode is narcissism.
I think the global superclass own the bankers, too.
Bankers have not done so well recently
More like do we want to restore win-win (healthy) Classical Liberalism (Liberty) as our predominant philosophy, or revert to win-lose (dysfunctional) “social liberalism” (totalitarianism) in keeping with the vast majority of history?
Rather disappointed by the author of this article brushing so lightly over Trump’s achievements, which were sadly totally unravelled by Biden. Far from Biden continuing with Trump’s so-called populist policies, he actively returned to the left-wing Democratic establishment business as usual. Demented Biden is just a puppet for the US left. It is not just globalist bankers, who allegedly “rule” the world, but the big global institutions, led by unelected bureaucrats. Trump’s first executive orders were against a globalist cabal of corrupt UN institutions, which try to establish an Orwellian future for mankind. He first signed an executive order to get out of the Paris Agreement, trying to establish U.S.’ energy independence, and then he put a stop to funding the WHO (of course Gates tried to fill this gap with his own money). But sadly after Covid hit the States, Trump followed the advice of corrupt establishment people like Fauci and other advisers, who were in the pocket of big Pharma, to lock down the country and fast track the vaccines, paying billions to big Pharma in “Operation Warp Speed”. So Covid was his real downfall, and he can’t wriggle out of his biggest error and try to rewrite history by blaming his political rival DeSantis not to open up his State fast enough.
I hope that the U.S. will not elect a post Trumpian “populist” Biden, but a politician in Trump’s original mould (preferably without his huge narcissism), who can turn around the woke, leftish nightmare we are currently experiencing everywhere in the Western World.
The real question is as simple for Americans as it is for Brits and Europeans: do we want to retain the nation state and therefore democracy or do we wish to be ruled by a global superclass answerable to nobody but their bankers?
Everything else is just waffle.
This is as good an analysis of the current American political scene as I have seen on Unherd. The author successfully cuts through the smoke and mirrors of identity politics, race-baiting, woke culture wars, and all the other diversionary tactics used by both sides of the globalist establishment to create artificial divides and keep themselves in power. There is indeed hope that even as Trump becomes an increasingly ineffective hindrance to populist goals, his election will still be identified centuries hence as a catalyst for the change that is most needed. Effective change throughout history need not necessarily come through bloody revolution. It is far better for all concerned when those in power instead make reasonable concessions out of fear of bloody revolution. I have to wonder if the transition from true monarchy and feudal aristocracy towards representative democracy in Britain would have been as smooth or as peaceful had they not witnessed the violent destruction of the French aristocracy at the end of the eighteenth century. Fear is, as ever, a great motivator. Trump, Jan 6th, and the continued undercurrent of revolutionary and secessionist sentiment in the US has the establishment rattled. Biden’s continuation of certain aspects of Trump’s populism reflects their fear of both regional uprisings and more realistically, a smoother, more polished, more competent, and more committed outsider blowing up the political process using Trump’s model. People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. That governments, and others with power, are actually afraid represents real progress towards the sort of change the world needs.
Great comment.
“It is far better for all concerned when those in power instead make reasonable concessions out of fear of bloody revolution”
I do not think history bears that out. As far as I can see history tells us that once a totalitarian regime starts to make concessions it is finished
Well, it isn’t the concessions that bring down these regimes, totalitarian or otherwise. It’s the fact that historical circumstances change what works and what doesn’t. What was good policy in 1800 won’t necessarily work in 1900 or 2000. The world never stands still. If a regime fails to adapt to new conditions for whatever reasons of ideology or incompetence or both (and I think in this case it is both), they find their governance is increasingly ineffective and their rule unpopular. They become unstable and vulnerable to both internal uprisings and foreign interference. So, you’re technically correct. By the times most regimes make concessions, they’ve already lost. In hindsight, we know feudalism was basically invalidated by the industrial revolution. By 1800, the writing was on the wall for anyone with enough foresight to read it. Some did, like the British, and adapted their systems over the years to account for a changed reality. As a result, they remained largely peaceful and prosperous through the transition from feudal monarchy to modern nation-state. Tsarist Russia, on the other hand, dug in and tried to push back against the tide of history, and by the time they made any concessions, the beginning of the 20th century, it was far too little too late. We know how that ended up. The globalists of today are in the same boat that the feudal lords of the early 19th century were in. There is no possible path towards the globalist vision of one unified planet governed by unchecked economic competition and legions of unelected ‘experts’ in international alphabet organizations. They have lost, past tense. The only question is how quickly they realize it and how much damage they do trying to stop it. That remains to be seen.
On the one hand I do not disagree. On the other hand Stalin v the Czars, Pol Pot and Saddam were not bought down by internal forces yet the Shah was.
The Czars were who I hd in mind when i made my original comment. They made no real attempt to push back. They were soft and that is what destroyed them. If I had executed Lenin’s brother (rightly as it happened) I would have rounded up and executed the entire family
But eventually someone else would have come along and led a revolution, maybe not exactly the same time or the same philosophy, but inevitable in the long run.
But eventually someone else would have come along and led a revolution, maybe not exactly the same time or the same philosophy, but inevitable in the long run.
On the one hand I do not disagree. On the other hand Stalin v the Czars, Pol Pot and Saddam were not bought down by internal forces yet the Shah was.
The Czars were who I hd in mind when i made my original comment. They made no real attempt to push back. They were soft and that is what destroyed them. If I had executed Lenin’s brother (rightly as it happened) I would have rounded up and executed the entire family
Well, it isn’t the concessions that bring down these regimes, totalitarian or otherwise. It’s the fact that historical circumstances change what works and what doesn’t. What was good policy in 1800 won’t necessarily work in 1900 or 2000. The world never stands still. If a regime fails to adapt to new conditions for whatever reasons of ideology or incompetence or both (and I think in this case it is both), they find their governance is increasingly ineffective and their rule unpopular. They become unstable and vulnerable to both internal uprisings and foreign interference. So, you’re technically correct. By the times most regimes make concessions, they’ve already lost. In hindsight, we know feudalism was basically invalidated by the industrial revolution. By 1800, the writing was on the wall for anyone with enough foresight to read it. Some did, like the British, and adapted their systems over the years to account for a changed reality. As a result, they remained largely peaceful and prosperous through the transition from feudal monarchy to modern nation-state. Tsarist Russia, on the other hand, dug in and tried to push back against the tide of history, and by the time they made any concessions, the beginning of the 20th century, it was far too little too late. We know how that ended up. The globalists of today are in the same boat that the feudal lords of the early 19th century were in. There is no possible path towards the globalist vision of one unified planet governed by unchecked economic competition and legions of unelected ‘experts’ in international alphabet organizations. They have lost, past tense. The only question is how quickly they realize it and how much damage they do trying to stop it. That remains to be seen.
…Trumpite repatriation of US industry and military forces to keep order at home as civil upheaval follows de-dollarisation fueled poverty? This will be even more traumatic as protectionist barriers are raised to keep foreign goods out and American industrialisation is rebuilt Naz¡ style. That will take a couple of decades after which I’d worry about Canada and Mexico’s futures, 3rd Reich style..
“Where there is coal, or oil, or hydroelectric power, there a new weapon can be forged against the heart of the Faustian Civilization. Here begins the exploited world’s revenge on its masters. It is no mere crisis, but the beginning of a catastrophe.
Faced with this destiny, there is only one worldview that is worthy of us, the aforementioned one of Achilles: better a short life, full of deeds and glory, than a long and empty one. The danger is so great, for every individual, every class, every people, that it is pathetic to delude oneself. Time cannot be stopped: there is absolutely no way back, no wise renunciation to be made. Only dreamers believe in ways out. Optimism is cowardice.”
Could happen
“Where there is coal, or oil, or hydroelectric power, there a new weapon can be forged against the heart of the Faustian Civilization. Here begins the exploited world’s revenge on its masters. It is no mere crisis, but the beginning of a catastrophe.
Faced with this destiny, there is only one worldview that is worthy of us, the aforementioned one of Achilles: better a short life, full of deeds and glory, than a long and empty one. The danger is so great, for every individual, every class, every people, that it is pathetic to delude oneself. Time cannot be stopped: there is absolutely no way back, no wise renunciation to be made. Only dreamers believe in ways out. Optimism is cowardice.”
Could happen
Such a peacefully revolutionary comment..!
Jolly good Steve Jolly..!!!
Thanks. I think most of us would prefer a peaceful process, even if needed changes may take longer that way. Tyranny must always be confronted for what it is, but violent revolution should always be the very last resort of a civilized people.
Exactly..!
Revolution is the very last resort for various reasons. To name a few, it is bloody and murderous, it is often used, exploited and misguided and as a result usually fails the cause. While some nasty folks are eager to grasp the opportunity and ran things anew for their very own profit.
And no matter how it plays out, the innocent always suffer alongside the guilty.
And no matter how it plays out, the innocent always suffer alongside the guilty.
Exactly..!
Revolution is the very last resort for various reasons. To name a few, it is bloody and murderous, it is often used, exploited and misguided and as a result usually fails the cause. While some nasty folks are eager to grasp the opportunity and ran things anew for their very own profit.
Thanks. I think most of us would prefer a peaceful process, even if needed changes may take longer that way. Tyranny must always be confronted for what it is, but violent revolution should always be the very last resort of a civilized people.
“When the government fears the people, you have good government.
When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.”
–Thos. Jefferson
Some credit also needs to be given to the British experience of Cromwellian insurrection.
Great comment.
“It is far better for all concerned when those in power instead make reasonable concessions out of fear of bloody revolution”
I do not think history bears that out. As far as I can see history tells us that once a totalitarian regime starts to make concessions it is finished
…Trumpite repatriation of US industry and military forces to keep order at home as civil upheaval follows de-dollarisation fueled poverty? This will be even more traumatic as protectionist barriers are raised to keep foreign goods out and American industrialisation is rebuilt Naz¡ style. That will take a couple of decades after which I’d worry about Canada and Mexico’s futures, 3rd Reich style..
Such a peacefully revolutionary comment..!
Jolly good Steve Jolly..!!!
“When the government fears the people, you have good government.
When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.”
–Thos. Jefferson
Some credit also needs to be given to the British experience of Cromwellian insurrection.
This is as good an analysis of the current American political scene as I have seen on Unherd. The author successfully cuts through the smoke and mirrors of identity politics, race-baiting, woke culture wars, and all the other diversionary tactics used by both sides of the globalist establishment to create artificial divides and keep themselves in power. There is indeed hope that even as Trump becomes an increasingly ineffective hindrance to populist goals, his election will still be identified centuries hence as a catalyst for the change that is most needed. Effective change throughout history need not necessarily come through bloody revolution. It is far better for all concerned when those in power instead make reasonable concessions out of fear of bloody revolution. I have to wonder if the transition from true monarchy and feudal aristocracy towards representative democracy in Britain would have been as smooth or as peaceful had they not witnessed the violent destruction of the French aristocracy at the end of the eighteenth century. Fear is, as ever, a great motivator. Trump, Jan 6th, and the continued undercurrent of revolutionary and secessionist sentiment in the US has the establishment rattled. Biden’s continuation of certain aspects of Trump’s populism reflects their fear of both regional uprisings and more realistically, a smoother, more polished, more competent, and more committed outsider blowing up the political process using Trump’s model. People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. That governments, and others with power, are actually afraid represents real progress towards the sort of change the world needs.
Well, one must realize that Trump’s opponents are singularly interested in dissolving the American experiment and subjecting it to the whims of foreign or other unaccountable bureaucracies. The point, then, isn’t so much to support Trump as it is to defeat his enemies, and his fellow republicans are often part of the same necocon / neoliberal problem: a sad state of affairs. Fundamental change is certainly necessary, but our polity won’t let it happen.
This is the deal. Do the believers of Classic Enlightenment Liberalism Win? The sort of thinking which created, Industry, Prosperity, Rule of Law, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the ‘one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all’.
Or do the global Elite useful idiots win, and do as planned, and destroy this Noble Nation so it may become a 1984-esk Neo Feudalism; degenerate, godless, bankrupt, divided, and a second world Corporatocracy and Tyranny?
If you wish the first, then only one rout is possible, Trump Wins 2024.
If you wish the second choice, then if a Democrat, RINO, Deep State, or Uni-party, candidate wins, that will be what you get. The deep state, the MSM, Social Media, Education industry, the Corporations and Finance, they are one more degenerate President away from their goal of utter destruction of all which is decent and which made the West great.
silly article, a total Wan* fest…
I’m with you, although I think Trump II will be very different to Trump I.
The writer is a hopeless Trumpohobe, but he does make a good point – the Great Orange One didn’t DO much, did he? “The wall” was not built, after all that.
Let’s hope Trump II has grown up a bit. And let’s end these debates … some sly left wing shill serving up softball questions to a grouchy confused old man while Trump blathers and sputters and throws haymakers wide …
It is a point in Trump’s favor that he didn’t “do” extravagant legislature. True, the wall wasn’t completed, unfortunately.
He did what his able advisors advised: the man is a cretin, who is devoid of knowledge and intellect.
No indeed, you can’t accuse Trump of being an intellectual!
…which one?
No indeed, you can’t accuse Trump of being an intellectual!
…which one?
He did what his able advisors advised: the man is a cretin, who is devoid of knowledge and intellect.
It is a point in Trump’s favor that he didn’t “do” extravagant legislature. True, the wall wasn’t completed, unfortunately.
Because your old dog learns lots of new tricks, I’m sure.
The writer is a hopeless Trumpohobe, but he does make a good point – the Great Orange One didn’t DO much, did he? “The wall” was not built, after all that.
Let’s hope Trump II has grown up a bit. And let’s end these debates … some sly left wing shill serving up softball questions to a grouchy confused old man while Trump blathers and sputters and throws haymakers wide …
Because your old dog learns lots of new tricks, I’m sure.
For what it is worth, I agree. The middle-class, horribly misguided, do-gooders have taken over in the UK. They have passed new laws which say that you can’t disagree with them. All political parties are in collusion. Censorship has reached an unbelievable level.
I don’t understand why people can’t see this. They talk about the Left as the enemy but there is no Right. To be Right is to be an outcast.
Trump could perhaps do nothing but his very presence keeps the state police quiet.
Middle class? In UK we’ve had 10 years of being ruled by Private School Eton or Winchester Head Boys complemented by Grammar school Head Girls – one quiet posh one slightly mad. All supported by their private school supporters in the media. That couldn’t be more ruling class establishment
Does it matter what label you give them. Presumably, you would agree that the teachers are middle class. So why are they teaching this drivel? You would say the the unions are middle class. Why are they not striking? You need to open your eyes.
I think if you want to label the leaders of the UK for the last 13yrs middle class that’s fine, but doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny. Establishment been in charge and made right hash of things. Now doing the usual find someone else to blame and keep it fairly unspecific so can cover as many bases as poss. Total cobblers.
You really need to read what Chris Wheatley actually said instead of pushing forth your own agenda. Nothing particularly wrong with your agenda but you need to read the points being made.
You really need to read what Chris Wheatley actually said instead of pushing forth your own agenda. Nothing particularly wrong with your agenda but you need to read the points being made.
..run that one by me again as well please: “why are UK TUs not striking? haha. lol.
I think if you want to label the leaders of the UK for the last 13yrs middle class that’s fine, but doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny. Establishment been in charge and made right hash of things. Now doing the usual find someone else to blame and keep it fairly unspecific so can cover as many bases as poss. Total cobblers.
..run that one by me again as well please: “why are UK TUs not striking? haha. lol.
Please do not compare Eton and Winchester with grammar schools.
Sadly, Winchester has fallen badly behind in recent years! No doubt the admission of girls has much to do with it.
Eton on the other hand has theoretically gone from strength to strength.
Once the home of the ‘cream of society’, ie the rich & thick, the meritocratic revolution of the 1980’s has produced a far more intellectually equipped Etonian.
However everything has its cost, and the clever little swots of today are nothing like their well rounded, robust predecessors, who at least knew how to speak with the ‘voice of authority.
“Sic Gloria Transit Mundi.”
Well of course Winchester has fallen behind since the admission of girls! Thus passes the glory of the good-ole white male only world. About time.
Well of course Winchester has fallen behind since the admission of girls! Thus passes the glory of the good-ole white male only world. About time.
Sadly, Winchester has fallen badly behind in recent years! No doubt the admission of girls has much to do with it.
Eton on the other hand has theoretically gone from strength to strength.
Once the home of the ‘cream of society’, ie the rich & thick, the meritocratic revolution of the 1980’s has produced a far more intellectually equipped Etonian.
However everything has its cost, and the clever little swots of today are nothing like their well rounded, robust predecessors, who at least knew how to speak with the ‘voice of authority.
“Sic Gloria Transit Mundi.”
can I have some ketchup to dip one of your shoulder chips?
“In UK we’ve had 10 years of being ruled by Private School Eton or Winchester Head Boys”
More like two centuries and more, and jolly good too!
The decline is because the mercantile has taken over from land as source of wealth. The job of public schools was to turn businessmens’ sons into gentlemen which they have been failing to do for decades.
When it came to education Manchester Grammar and the other Direct Grant Grammar Schools were superior to Eton and Harrow.
Ernie Bevin had great respect for Eton and Harrow but little for the LSE. Very astute judge of character was Bevin.
The greatest saviour for the public schools was the destruction of grammar schools and the introduction of progressive education in comprehensives. The reality was that apart from Winchester and Westminster most public schools were comprehensive in academic ability but the education was not progressive: it was Classics, Competitive Sports and Christianity with an instilled duty to die for Britain, hence Bevin’s respect.
Utter rubbish: the entrepreneurial 19th Century Quakers who were enobled, sent their boys to Eton, and were you to read your Victorian history you would know that what you refer to as mercantile wealth was in full Eton and Harrow sending form even before the middle of the 19th Century.. banking, brewing, confectionary, food, glass, coal, steel was all in full flow as was its wealth creation….As for the use of the term ” superior” in reference to Manchester and other grammar schools, I suggest that you look at lists of old boys achievements? Eton produced artists, authors, actors, academics, racehorse trainers, racing drivers, as well as soldiers, and landowners… interestingly now the rising following star is Radley, as so many Etonians are now not sending their sons to Eton, ditto Harrow… just as when all the dross starting wearing Barbours… they donned Schoffels!!!!
Utter rubbish: the entrepreneurial 19th Century Quakers who were enobled, sent their boys to Eton, and were you to read your Victorian history you would know that what you refer to as mercantile wealth was in full Eton and Harrow sending form even before the middle of the 19th Century.. banking, brewing, confectionary, food, glass, coal, steel was all in full flow as was its wealth creation….As for the use of the term ” superior” in reference to Manchester and other grammar schools, I suggest that you look at lists of old boys achievements? Eton produced artists, authors, actors, academics, racehorse trainers, racing drivers, as well as soldiers, and landowners… interestingly now the rising following star is Radley, as so many Etonians are now not sending their sons to Eton, ditto Harrow… just as when all the dross starting wearing Barbours… they donned Schoffels!!!!
The decline is because the mercantile has taken over from land as source of wealth. The job of public schools was to turn businessmens’ sons into gentlemen which they have been failing to do for decades.
When it came to education Manchester Grammar and the other Direct Grant Grammar Schools were superior to Eton and Harrow.
Ernie Bevin had great respect for Eton and Harrow but little for the LSE. Very astute judge of character was Bevin.
The greatest saviour for the public schools was the destruction of grammar schools and the introduction of progressive education in comprehensives. The reality was that apart from Winchester and Westminster most public schools were comprehensive in academic ability but the education was not progressive: it was Classics, Competitive Sports and Christianity with an instilled duty to die for Britain, hence Bevin’s respect.
Does it matter what label you give them. Presumably, you would agree that the teachers are middle class. So why are they teaching this drivel? You would say the the unions are middle class. Why are they not striking? You need to open your eyes.
Please do not compare Eton and Winchester with grammar schools.
can I have some ketchup to dip one of your shoulder chips?
“In UK we’ve had 10 years of being ruled by Private School Eton or Winchester Head Boys”
More like two centuries and more, and jolly good too!
..just run that description of those in charge in the UK again would you? ..it’s so funny I want to hear it again and again! ..do-gooders did you say… haha. lol. hilarious!
Middle class? In UK we’ve had 10 years of being ruled by Private School Eton or Winchester Head Boys complemented by Grammar school Head Girls – one quiet posh one slightly mad. All supported by their private school supporters in the media. That couldn’t be more ruling class establishment
..just run that description of those in charge in the UK again would you? ..it’s so funny I want to hear it again and again! ..do-gooders did you say… haha. lol. hilarious!
I think Trump is the only candidate who can do what is necessary and take a wrecking ball to the establishment, and given the way he was stitched up last time he should have the appetite for it
Interesting analogy.
If you hired a wrecker to knock down a building, but after 4 years the building was still standing stronger than ever and the wrecker was giving you nothing but excuses and promises, would you re-hire him to do the same job?
Another swing of the wrecking ball is preferable to the other option: a cabal of con artists telling the neighbors that the rotting building is in great shape, and the rats and squatters don’t exist! It just needs a new coat of rainbow paint. While paying off the reporters and silencing dissent. . . Oh and how about some more government funding, some lawyers, a DEI evaluation, an academic study. . . ! All funded by the neighborhood, whom we know are called “deplorables,” and we would rather they not start families around here. . .
I’m going to try this again without some of the possibly offending words. . . Unless I’m auto-m0derated at this point?
Another swing of the wrecking ball is preferable to the other option: a c@b@l of con artists telling the neighbors that the rotting building is in great shape, and the rats and squatters don’t exist! It just needs a new coat of r@inbow paint. While paying off the reporters and silencing d!ssent. . . Oh and how about some more government funding, some lawyers, a D3I evaluation, an academic study. . . ! All funded by the neighborhood, whom we know are called “depl0rables,” and we would rather they not start f@milies around here. . .
I think you are guilty of looking at 2016 with today’s eyes. This is not very astute!
I think he imagined that the civil servants would do what they were told. This time round sack the lot.
Another swing of the wrecking ball is preferable to the other option: a cabal of con artists telling the neighbors that the rotting building is in great shape, and the rats and squatters don’t exist! It just needs a new coat of rainbow paint. While paying off the reporters and silencing dissent. . . Oh and how about some more government funding, some lawyers, a DEI evaluation, an academic study. . . ! All funded by the neighborhood, whom we know are called “deplorables,” and we would rather they not start families around here. . .
I’m going to try this again without some of the possibly offending words. . . Unless I’m auto-m0derated at this point?
Another swing of the wrecking ball is preferable to the other option: a c@b@l of con artists telling the neighbors that the rotting building is in great shape, and the rats and squatters don’t exist! It just needs a new coat of r@inbow paint. While paying off the reporters and silencing d!ssent. . . Oh and how about some more government funding, some lawyers, a D3I evaluation, an academic study. . . ! All funded by the neighborhood, whom we know are called “depl0rables,” and we would rather they not start f@milies around here. . .
I think you are guilty of looking at 2016 with today’s eyes. This is not very astute!
I think he imagined that the civil servants would do what they were told. This time round sack the lot.
Wrecking ball I can relate to.. he’ll have to better than Jan6 next time though!
Interesting analogy.
If you hired a wrecker to knock down a building, but after 4 years the building was still standing stronger than ever and the wrecker was giving you nothing but excuses and promises, would you re-hire him to do the same job?
Wrecking ball I can relate to.. he’ll have to better than Jan6 next time though!
Somehow I find it hard to say Trump and Classic Enlightenment Liberalism in the same sentence.. that’s some choice you’ve got there: between Satan and Lucifer??
Trump is incapable of achieving anything as President. Four more years of him would just bring more chaos and lunacy, from both him and his enemies.
If you want the US nation to have a real chance against the global elites, you better support someone like DeSantis who can actually build a coalition and get things done.
That’s what the uniparty fears most, thus they want Trump and are doing all they can to martyr him.
That’s what the uniparty fears most, thus they want Trump and are doing all they can to martyr him.
I’m with you, although I think Trump II will be very different to Trump I.
For what it is worth, I agree. The middle-class, horribly misguided, do-gooders have taken over in the UK. They have passed new laws which say that you can’t disagree with them. All political parties are in collusion. Censorship has reached an unbelievable level.
I don’t understand why people can’t see this. They talk about the Left as the enemy but there is no Right. To be Right is to be an outcast.
Trump could perhaps do nothing but his very presence keeps the state police quiet.
I think Trump is the only candidate who can do what is necessary and take a wrecking ball to the establishment, and given the way he was stitched up last time he should have the appetite for it
Somehow I find it hard to say Trump and Classic Enlightenment Liberalism in the same sentence.. that’s some choice you’ve got there: between Satan and Lucifer??
Trump is incapable of achieving anything as President. Four more years of him would just bring more chaos and lunacy, from both him and his enemies.
If you want the US nation to have a real chance against the global elites, you better support someone like DeSantis who can actually build a coalition and get things done.
..a narrow divide between fundamental change and fundamentalism perhaps?
This is the deal. Do the believers of Classic Enlightenment Liberalism Win? The sort of thinking which created, Industry, Prosperity, Rule of Law, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the ‘one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all’.
Or do the global Elite useful idiots win, and do as planned, and destroy this Noble Nation so it may become a 1984-esk Neo Feudalism; degenerate, godless, bankrupt, divided, and a second world Corporatocracy and Tyranny?
If you wish the first, then only one rout is possible, Trump Wins 2024.
If you wish the second choice, then if a Democrat, RINO, Deep State, or Uni-party, candidate wins, that will be what you get. The deep state, the MSM, Social Media, Education industry, the Corporations and Finance, they are one more degenerate President away from their goal of utter destruction of all which is decent and which made the West great.
silly article, a total Wan* fest…
..a narrow divide between fundamental change and fundamentalism perhaps?
Well, one must realize that Trump’s opponents are singularly interested in dissolving the American experiment and subjecting it to the whims of foreign or other unaccountable bureaucracies. The point, then, isn’t so much to support Trump as it is to defeat his enemies, and his fellow republicans are often part of the same necocon / neoliberal problem: a sad state of affairs. Fundamental change is certainly necessary, but our polity won’t let it happen.
A good read and generally correct. The only part I have issue with is the 3rd from last paragraph, which includes the lines “Biden had the nerve to cut America’s losses in Afghanistan, which Trump failed to do. And Biden has waged a trade war against China as vigorously as Trump, but with more sophistication.”
This is simply wrong:
1.Trump had arranged a decent and possible win-win exit from Afghanistan. Biden and Blinken dumped that plan and just ran, literally, making a laughing stock of the USA. This possibly even gave Putin the extra nudge he needed to invade Ukraine.
2.Plus, on China, Biden is so in deep with his corrupt ties along with his son – somehow still not in gaol. There is evidence of so much illegal activity of Biden as VP and now, plus the crime family, yet the weak Republicans fail to even mention impeachment. With Trump there was ZERO real evidence yet twice impeached (and cleared).
Trump does not even know where Afghanistan or Ukraine are?
Neither did the late Herman Cain, but he still would have made a better President than Hillary Clinton.
Herman Cain, the pizza guy who died from coronavirus because he refused to wear a mask? LMAO!
Herman Cain, the pizza guy who died from coronavirus because he refused to wear a mask? LMAO!
the only thing one can say about this comment is ‘it is beyond stupid’.
what a cerebral, profound comment, professor…
what a cerebral, profound comment, professor…
Neither did the late Herman Cain, but he still would have made a better President than Hillary Clinton.
the only thing one can say about this comment is ‘it is beyond stupid’.
Trump does not even know where Afghanistan or Ukraine are?
A good read and generally correct. The only part I have issue with is the 3rd from last paragraph, which includes the lines “Biden had the nerve to cut America’s losses in Afghanistan, which Trump failed to do. And Biden has waged a trade war against China as vigorously as Trump, but with more sophistication.”
This is simply wrong:
1.Trump had arranged a decent and possible win-win exit from Afghanistan. Biden and Blinken dumped that plan and just ran, literally, making a laughing stock of the USA. This possibly even gave Putin the extra nudge he needed to invade Ukraine.
2.Plus, on China, Biden is so in deep with his corrupt ties along with his son – somehow still not in gaol. There is evidence of so much illegal activity of Biden as VP and now, plus the crime family, yet the weak Republicans fail to even mention impeachment. With Trump there was ZERO real evidence yet twice impeached (and cleared).
Good article. None of the pseudo-Trumpists nor post-Trumpists are WEF members or WEF Young Global Leaders, I believe, which is a good sign.
I had always assumed until Biden came along that if I lived in the US I would vote Democrat, but Biden has been a much worse president for the world than Trump, and we have yet to find out the full truth about his connections with, and the activities of, Metabiota in Ukraine (especially pertinent given the eye-opening Expose story from March 31st, which people are only just becoming aware of after Redacted covered it last night).
I do have a soft spot for DeSantis for his handling of Covid, and his anti-globalist stance, and would vote for him if he stood against Biden in the next election were I a US citizen.
I’ve seen quite a few clips of Hawley in action recently and he is a pretty impressive performer.
I fear though that the fragmentation in the Republicans that you describe will lead to another Biden victory, a man now patently unfit for office on health grounds and just the puppet of the deep state actors who control him.
If Biden wins then surely there’s a good chance he’ll die in office. In which case the VP candidate is the one to keep an eye on.
Biden has already “died” in office. A semi-automated mannequin bumbling his way along as his Handlers direct him. Dangerous to no one and to everyone all at once. Be very afraid of a Biden 2024 presidency.
Biden has already “died” in office. A semi-automated mannequin bumbling his way along as his Handlers direct him. Dangerous to no one and to everyone all at once. Be very afraid of a Biden 2024 presidency.
Any time anybody uses the term “deep state” it is time to dismiss them as just another right-wing paranoid.
Really? Define “interagency consensus.”
Then give me the name of the “whistleblower” who precipitated President Trump’s first impeachment.
Never voted for a right-wing party in my life.
What precisely do you have against the Turkish short-hand for the indisputable fact that permanent bureaucracies, and especially the intelligence services, act in their own guild interests often against those of the government as a whole and even more frequently against those of the citizenry who elected that government?
Really? Define “interagency consensus.”
Then give me the name of the “whistleblower” who precipitated President Trump’s first impeachment.
Never voted for a right-wing party in my life.
What precisely do you have against the Turkish short-hand for the indisputable fact that permanent bureaucracies, and especially the intelligence services, act in their own guild interests often against those of the government as a whole and even more frequently against those of the citizenry who elected that government?
If Biden wins then surely there’s a good chance he’ll die in office. In which case the VP candidate is the one to keep an eye on.
Any time anybody uses the term “deep state” it is time to dismiss them as just another right-wing paranoid.
Good article. None of the pseudo-Trumpists nor post-Trumpists are WEF members or WEF Young Global Leaders, I believe, which is a good sign.
I had always assumed until Biden came along that if I lived in the US I would vote Democrat, but Biden has been a much worse president for the world than Trump, and we have yet to find out the full truth about his connections with, and the activities of, Metabiota in Ukraine (especially pertinent given the eye-opening Expose story from March 31st, which people are only just becoming aware of after Redacted covered it last night).
I do have a soft spot for DeSantis for his handling of Covid, and his anti-globalist stance, and would vote for him if he stood against Biden in the next election were I a US citizen.
I’ve seen quite a few clips of Hawley in action recently and he is a pretty impressive performer.
I fear though that the fragmentation in the Republicans that you describe will lead to another Biden victory, a man now patently unfit for office on health grounds and just the puppet of the deep state actors who control him.
A really interesting article. Bring on the post-Trumpists, I say. We need a new political model for the US. The old ideas, and the current gerontocrats who enforce them, are no longer fit for purpose.
Unfortunately, the hardcore left in the Democratic party sense that post-Trumpism will be a winning formula, hence the show trial of Trump intended to stir up the fight between left and right. The old order doesn’t die easily.
There is NO Left in the US, apart from a few crying in the political wilderness like AOC, Sanders and Warren.. mostly what you call Left are at best Centrists or Right of Centre. What you call Right is far right, some very far right.
There is NO Left in the US, apart from a few crying in the political wilderness like AOC, Sanders and Warren.. mostly what you call Left are at best Centrists or Right of Centre. What you call Right is far right, some very far right.
A really interesting article. Bring on the post-Trumpists, I say. We need a new political model for the US. The old ideas, and the current gerontocrats who enforce them, are no longer fit for purpose.
Unfortunately, the hardcore left in the Democratic party sense that post-Trumpism will be a winning formula, hence the show trial of Trump intended to stir up the fight between left and right. The old order doesn’t die easily.
There are a great many similarities between the Post-Trumpists and the Eisenhower era of the Republican party. It was a time when the party was skeptical of corporate monopolies, supported reasonable social programs, and was pragmatic on foreign policy.
Slightly rose tinted that. Also acquiesced in McCarthyism and continuation of Jim Crow in the South. Ike was regularly criticised for spending too much time on the Golf course, esp in 2nd term.
But same time something also in your point.
Ike was the exception to a nearly unbroken line of Democratic party rule in the mid 20th century. New Deal Democrats suborned Jim Crow and they alone could undo it (the northerners, that is, with the aid of northern Republicans) . In Jim Crow states the number of Republicans in office could be counted on one’s fingers.
Ike was the exception to a nearly unbroken line of Democratic party rule in the mid 20th century. New Deal Democrats suborned Jim Crow and they alone could undo it (the northerners, that is, with the aid of northern Republicans) . In Jim Crow states the number of Republicans in office could be counted on one’s fingers.
Slightly rose tinted that. Also acquiesced in McCarthyism and continuation of Jim Crow in the South. Ike was regularly criticised for spending too much time on the Golf course, esp in 2nd term.
But same time something also in your point.
There are a great many similarities between the Post-Trumpists and the Eisenhower era of the Republican party. It was a time when the party was skeptical of corporate monopolies, supported reasonable social programs, and was pragmatic on foreign policy.
The USA would be a healthier wealthier and the world a safer place if Trump had stayed put.
The USA would be a healthier wealthier and the world a safer place if Trump had stayed put.
Here’s the tragedy.
Donald Trump is the most powerful political force in America. There is no one else who can summon 57,000 ordinary Americans to a field in Nowhere, Pennsylvania on a couple of day’s notice. No one.
He also has a couch cushion mind, one that accepts the impression of the last person who sat on it.
Finally, he has a tremendous desire for praise and affirmation. Flattery will get you everywhere with him.
So what’s the tragedy?
That the smartest people on our side, the folks like Lind, Vermuele, Vance, Cass, Ahmari, etc. did not recognize and flock to this incredible political force as soon as he appeared in 2015 and guide him into accomplishing the crucial things this dying and decadent empire need reformed.
Instead they dallied and caviled and left him to the mercies of grifters like Bannon and devious corrupt insiders like McConnell.
Tragedy.
Well, do you really think that Trump was sufficiently biddable and predictable that a cabal of smart people could effectively have taken him over and used him as a puppet? Faced with competing groups of other smart people with different agenda’s trying to do the same thing? Was he not always too unpredictable and thin-skinned, too much of a loose cannon, for anyone to use him to implement a sensible set of policies? The president does have a lot of input in what policies end up being followed, after all.
I have seen it claimed that the policies of Reagan were effectively devised by his underlings – which would certainly explain how a man who never demonstrated a deep understanding of matters could get so impressive results. But Reagan, at a minimum, seems to have had the talent to select a good people, and to know whom to trust and which general directions to push. Which would have been enough to make him a successful president. Trump has hardly shown those talents.
Well, do you really think that Trump was sufficiently biddable and predictable that a cabal of smart people could effectively have taken him over and used him as a puppet? Faced with competing groups of other smart people with different agenda’s trying to do the same thing? Was he not always too unpredictable and thin-skinned, too much of a loose cannon, for anyone to use him to implement a sensible set of policies? The president does have a lot of input in what policies end up being followed, after all.
I have seen it claimed that the policies of Reagan were effectively devised by his underlings – which would certainly explain how a man who never demonstrated a deep understanding of matters could get so impressive results. But Reagan, at a minimum, seems to have had the talent to select a good people, and to know whom to trust and which general directions to push. Which would have been enough to make him a successful president. Trump has hardly shown those talents.
Here’s the tragedy.
Donald Trump is the most powerful political force in America. There is no one else who can summon 57,000 ordinary Americans to a field in Nowhere, Pennsylvania on a couple of day’s notice. No one.
He also has a couch cushion mind, one that accepts the impression of the last person who sat on it.
Finally, he has a tremendous desire for praise and affirmation. Flattery will get you everywhere with him.
So what’s the tragedy?
That the smartest people on our side, the folks like Lind, Vermuele, Vance, Cass, Ahmari, etc. did not recognize and flock to this incredible political force as soon as he appeared in 2015 and guide him into accomplishing the crucial things this dying and decadent empire need reformed.
Instead they dallied and caviled and left him to the mercies of grifters like Bannon and devious corrupt insiders like McConnell.
Tragedy.
Hard to see how gifting an 80-billion-dollar military to the Taliban qualifies as “cutting America’s losses in Afghanistan”, but whatever. The main point of this article is well-made.
“a thin orange coating of Trumpwash” – excellent!
Hard to see how gifting an 80-billion-dollar military to the Taliban qualifies as “cutting America’s losses in Afghanistan”, but whatever. The main point of this article is well-made.
“a thin orange coating of Trumpwash” – excellent!
I wonder what makes @Hugh Bryant believe in the equivalency between democracy and nation state. Probably, examples of Russia or China. Germany, Italy or Spain in 1939. The list is endless.
One observation is that multi-ethnic empires tend to break up when democracy comes. So do multi-ethnic nations. 1848 Denmark, modern Iraq or Syria, post-war Yugoslavia. For a democracy you need a demos, a people who feel united in some kind of common destiny, and who can jointly control their country. It doees not go the other way, sure. Russia and China are empires, not nation-states, but as you point out there have been dictatorial nation-states too. Still, he is right to note that both multiethnic nations / empires and supranational organisations are bad for democracy.
One observation is that multi-ethnic empires tend to break up when democracy comes. So do multi-ethnic nations. 1848 Denmark, modern Iraq or Syria, post-war Yugoslavia. For a democracy you need a demos, a people who feel united in some kind of common destiny, and who can jointly control their country. It doees not go the other way, sure. Russia and China are empires, not nation-states, but as you point out there have been dictatorial nation-states too. Still, he is right to note that both multiethnic nations / empires and supranational organisations are bad for democracy.
I wonder what makes @Hugh Bryant believe in the equivalency between democracy and nation state. Probably, examples of Russia or China. Germany, Italy or Spain in 1939. The list is endless.
In the last election Pres. Trump got 75million legit. votes and you write piffle like this.
In the last election Pres. Trump got 75million legit. votes and you write piffle like this.
Good read that. Balanced and also left one feeling more positive about the post Trump world. Now if we can just get past him…
Good read that. Balanced and also left one feeling more positive about the post Trump world. Now if we can just get past him…
And the Democrats are United in perfect harmony?
And the Democrats are United in perfect harmony?
I think it would be better to try to find some order behind the cat-fight of this that and the other Trumpists.
My analysis is that the Democratic Party is the party of the educated class and the underclass, and the Republican Party can’t quite figure out how to become the party of the ordinary middle class.
The big thing is that the ordinary middle class is Not That Interested in Power, or in politics. So it’s hard to get the ordinary middle class riled up for politics, because politics is about the enemy.
And the other side of politics is handing out the loot and plunder. The ordinary middle class is not that interested in loot and plunder, but it sure expects to get its pensions and health care.
Trump, love him or hate him, obviously struck a chord with the ordinary middle class. But how to keep them on the team when they are Not That Interested in Power.
The guy that figures that out will rule for a hundred years.
I think it would be better to try to find some order behind the cat-fight of this that and the other Trumpists.
My analysis is that the Democratic Party is the party of the educated class and the underclass, and the Republican Party can’t quite figure out how to become the party of the ordinary middle class.
The big thing is that the ordinary middle class is Not That Interested in Power, or in politics. So it’s hard to get the ordinary middle class riled up for politics, because politics is about the enemy.
And the other side of politics is handing out the loot and plunder. The ordinary middle class is not that interested in loot and plunder, but it sure expects to get its pensions and health care.
Trump, love him or hate him, obviously struck a chord with the ordinary middle class. But how to keep them on the team when they are Not That Interested in Power.
The guy that figures that out will rule for a hundred years.
Is it just me or is the author’s prose laboriously unmusical and tedious to read?
Is it just me or is the author’s prose laboriously unmusical and tedious to read?
Best analysis of American politics I’ve seen in at least a year, and it comes from a British commentary magazine. Sometimes only those outside the forest can actually see it.
You can read Lind in Tablet and American Affairs, among other publications. He’s very prolific.
His book, “New Class War, was very good.
I read The New Class War, just didn’t connect the author to this article. Thanks.
I read The New Class War, just didn’t connect the author to this article. Thanks.
You can read Lind in Tablet and American Affairs, among other publications. He’s very prolific.
His book, “New Class War, was very good.
Best analysis of American politics I’ve seen in at least a year, and it comes from a British commentary magazine. Sometimes only those outside the forest can actually see it.
“(Trump) did not end US involvement in any of the Forever Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya.”
Your statement is not correct. As with ‘the wall’ on the southern border, the USA military thwarted Trump’s attempts to pullback in Syria and Libya…and when Trump left office he had been working on an Afghan withdrawal which was stalled when Trump realized that the Taliban weren’t going to honor the deal that was being laid down. Ironically, just this week, Biden blamed Trump for the withdrawal. The phrase ‘ dishonest doofus’ for Biden comes to mind; Biden signed over 50 executive orders during his first month as President negating Trump’s four years, yet he did not redefine Trump’s Afghan deal, but instead went forward with the pullout in a most egregious way and then had the gaul to blame Trump.
“(Trump) did not end US involvement in any of the Forever Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya.”
Your statement is not correct. As with ‘the wall’ on the southern border, the USA military thwarted Trump’s attempts to pullback in Syria and Libya…and when Trump left office he had been working on an Afghan withdrawal which was stalled when Trump realized that the Taliban weren’t going to honor the deal that was being laid down. Ironically, just this week, Biden blamed Trump for the withdrawal. The phrase ‘ dishonest doofus’ for Biden comes to mind; Biden signed over 50 executive orders during his first month as President negating Trump’s four years, yet he did not redefine Trump’s Afghan deal, but instead went forward with the pullout in a most egregious way and then had the gaul to blame Trump.
Hawley, Rubio and Vance…. a gallery of opportunistic lowlives who exemplify the moral failure of the Republican Party. In 1874, cartoonist Thomas Nast used the elephant as a symbol of “the Republican vote” standing on the edge of a pit. Might as well have been 2023/24.
So what happens to the evangelical block in all this? And other culture warriors?
So what happens to the evangelical block in all this? And other culture warriors?
Trump sounded different, but actually he didn’t do anything much that was different. Then he came dangerously near to subverting the constitution
Reagan was the great reformer in the true spirit of the Republic and in spite of what Mr L8nd seems to think, won a second term, and via G Bush, a third. That does suggest a reasonable degree of support.
Unlike Dangerous Don, who lost. And if he wins in 2024, it will be through the utter stupidity of Jeopardy Joe.
Trump sounded different, but actually he didn’t do anything much that was different. Then he came dangerously near to subverting the constitution
Reagan was the great reformer in the true spirit of the Republic and in spite of what Mr L8nd seems to think, won a second term, and via G Bush, a third. That does suggest a reasonable degree of support.
Unlike Dangerous Don, who lost. And if he wins in 2024, it will be through the utter stupidity of Jeopardy Joe.
Yawn…….
Yawn…….
The last election in 2020 is estimated to have cost $14billion, for both the Presidential and Congress elements. The next election cycle will certainly cost more so you probably need to follow the money and ask what do the donors want? A more equal country, a fairer tax system, more onshore well paid jobs etc.? I doubt it somehow.
Plus however neatly you categorise all the various tribes, Trump himself will remain a major factor and he is a sociopath whose special sauce is stirring up division and hatred, grievance politics and forever culture wars. He is still the likeliest Republican nominee, because the other candidates so far are just offering variants on Trump-lite, and would his base and primary voters really prefer that to the real thing? Plus they are all scared stiff of him.
If Trump is the candidate more people will vote Democrat than Republican once more so he can only win by the vagaries of the Electoral College system or trying to steal the election again.
Whatever happens, I don’t see the sunlit uplands the author hopes for, as I don’t see a Republican Party rejecting Trumpism and the forever culture wars any time soon. While they and their voters think dead kids and equally forever school shootings, just as one example, are an acceptable outcome of ‘owning the libs’ I don’t see the meeting of minds on the best way forward for everyone which would be required.
Do you consider the trans/gender debate to be part of the culture wars and if so, in what way is Trump responsible for the conflict between the opposing sides? Has Trump been diagnosed as a sociopath by a psychiatrist, are you the psychiatrist who diagnosed him, and is he currently undergoing treatment?
The trans/gender debate is complex and both sides pretend there are simple all encompassing solutions, but do I think politicians on the right use it to demonise others as part of a culture war, then yes I do.
I would be interested why you think Trump doesn’t demonstrate all the characteristics of a classic sociopath, because I think he is a perfect fit.
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Shouldn’t you be out cottaging, Uncle Monty?
Come, come, even you can do better than that surely?
slip em on like a well worn sea boot, I say….
Come, come, even you can do better than that surely?
slip em on like a well worn sea boot, I say….
Shouldn’t you be out cottaging, Uncle Monty?
There should be no transgender debate. It’s very simple: men can’t be women. The fact that there is even debate on this issue is a damning indictment on how how soft-minded we’ve become.
And yet shockingly there is, because transgender people exist, but in the same world as narrow minded bigots such as yourself.
You are a’guest’ over here JM, and you should remember that.
The sort of man who cleans his car ” of a Sunday”…!!!!!
The sort of man who cleans his car ” of a Sunday”…!!!!!
Snip snip and Bob’s your Autie, Joanna dear…
You are a’guest’ over here JM, and you should remember that.
Snip snip and Bob’s your Autie, Joanna dear…
And yet shockingly there is, because transgender people exist, but in the same world as narrow minded bigots such as yourself.
John Murray, you answered one of my questions. Would you please answer the others.
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There should be no transgender debate. It’s very simple: men can’t be women. The fact that there is even debate on this issue is a damning indictment on how how soft-minded we’ve become.
John Murray, you answered one of my questions. Would you please answer the others.
For all whom are infected with any stage of TDS, Trump is everything from a sociopath to the reincarnation of Hitler himself.
The trans/gender debate is complex and both sides pretend there are simple all encompassing solutions, but do I think politicians on the right use it to demonise others as part of a culture war, then yes I do.
I would be interested why you think Trump doesn’t demonstrate all the characteristics of a classic sociopath, because I think he is a perfect fit.
For all whom are infected with any stage of TDS, Trump is everything from a sociopath to the reincarnation of Hitler himself.
Sociopath(noun): a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
So someone who is able to garner widespread populist support is anti-social ey? You could have gone with arrogant or cocky and those would fit but those don’t have that same hateful sounding tone that sociopath does, do they? This reads like as if you have a slight case of TDS.
Do you consider the trans/gender debate to be part of the culture wars and if so, in what way is Trump responsible for the conflict between the opposing sides? Has Trump been diagnosed as a sociopath by a psychiatrist, are you the psychiatrist who diagnosed him, and is he currently undergoing treatment?
Sociopath(noun): a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
So someone who is able to garner widespread populist support is anti-social ey? You could have gone with arrogant or cocky and those would fit but those don’t have that same hateful sounding tone that sociopath does, do they? This reads like as if you have a slight case of TDS.
The last election in 2020 is estimated to have cost $14billion, for both the Presidential and Congress elements. The next election cycle will certainly cost more so you probably need to follow the money and ask what do the donors want? A more equal country, a fairer tax system, more onshore well paid jobs etc.? I doubt it somehow.
Plus however neatly you categorise all the various tribes, Trump himself will remain a major factor and he is a sociopath whose special sauce is stirring up division and hatred, grievance politics and forever culture wars. He is still the likeliest Republican nominee, because the other candidates so far are just offering variants on Trump-lite, and would his base and primary voters really prefer that to the real thing? Plus they are all scared stiff of him.
If Trump is the candidate more people will vote Democrat than Republican once more so he can only win by the vagaries of the Electoral College system or trying to steal the election again.
Whatever happens, I don’t see the sunlit uplands the author hopes for, as I don’t see a Republican Party rejecting Trumpism and the forever culture wars any time soon. While they and their voters think dead kids and equally forever school shootings, just as one example, are an acceptable outcome of ‘owning the libs’ I don’t see the meeting of minds on the best way forward for everyone which would be required.