One of the characteristics of fame is that it is essentially Faustian in nature; to become a celebrity, one must sell one’s soul to the devil. It’s a highly questionable idea — why should there be such a price for being proficient at acting or music, for instance? — but it is one that persists, regardless of continual pushback from those in the public gaze. The reason it does so is not just down to the power of the media but also because it offers a sense of justice, or at least morbid satisfaction, to the public. We can look at the rich and famous, with wealth, status and lifestyles beyond our wildest dreams, and assure ourselves that there has been a terrible cost to their integrity, privacy and ultimately wellbeing, and suddenly the world seems just a little bit more balanced and just. Even the paparazzi, hated and courted by celebrities, have this Mephistophelean quality.
After a week of controversial and, at times, cringeworthy leaks from his book, Spare, Prince Harry’s interview with ITV came as an anti-climax. His host, Tom Bradby, gamely tried to stir up trouble while seeming to step back from it, suggesting to the Prince, about his relationship with the Royal Family, “you haven’t so much burnt your bridges as taken a flame thrower to them”. Harry’s response was arguably the closest he came in the interview to the disarming candour of his book, claiming “They’ve shown absolutely no willingness to reconcile. And I’m not sure how honesty is burning bridges. You know, silence only allows the abuser to abuse.” Yet throughout the interview, there is a sense of damage limitation, if not outright back-pedalling, that chimes with the generally scathing response his book has received critically.
As confessionals go, it’s a particularly evasive one. In contrast to the salacious, or salaciously reported, leaks from his book, of frostbitten appendages and so forth, there are few revelations here. There are references to leaked conversations with Camilla, troubling and melancholic remembrances of his mother’s death and the aftermath, acknowledgements that the Cambridges and Sussexes never entirely got on from the beginning, his entirely brotherly relationship with his brother, and so on. Little is surprising and there is much that is conciliatory. In the interview, he concedes “there are two sides to every story” and gives a mature and tender assessment of how difficult Princess Diana’s death must have been for Prince Charles, reflecting as a father himself, “Only now… did I really think about how many hours he’d been awake. And the compassion that I have for him as a parent, having to sit with that for many, many hours, ringing up friends of his, trying to work out, ‘How the hell do I break this to my two sons?’”
Throughout there is the suggestion of vertigo in speaking publicly about the issues compared with how emboldened print can make one feel; his book, by contrast, does not lack boldness and feels, occasionally like it could have been ghostwritten by a republican. Many autobiographical writers are plagued with a feeling they have betrayed and even sabotaged relationships with loved ones, simply by writing about them — “When a writer is born into a family, the family is finished” Czeslaw Milosz has been quoted as saying —and there’s a sense with Prince Harry of at least wanting to heal the divisions, while, tragically, perhaps deepening them.
The most telling line, which reaches towards the heart of the matter, comes back to the Faustian nature of fame and particularly the media’s gaze and how that can distort, “After many, many years of lies being told about me and my family, there comes a point where, going back to the relationship between, certain members of the family and the tabloid press, those certain members have decided to get in the bed with the devil.” This reiterated the accusation Harry made against Camilla in his 60 Minutes interview with Anderson Cooper, where he claimed, she was “dangerous because of the connections that she was forging within the British press. And there was open willingness on both sides to trade of information. And with a family built on hierarchy, and with her on the way to being queen consort, there was going to be people or bodies left in the street because of that.” Again and again, in his recollections in interviews and writing, Prince Harry comes back to the media as a baleful destructive force in his life.
It is evident that, seeking sanctuary from these pressures, Harry often found cold detachment or rejection from his family. There has been much made of Meghan Markle’s apparent reluctance to play the game expected of a royal, but the reticence has been there in her husband for much longer.
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Subscribe“..he has the right to speak his mind and tell his own story…”
Erm, yes – but when doing so, he needs to get his facts straight and at no point in the past two years since he started “speaking his truth” has he actually achieved that with the result that no one in their right minds believes him anymore.
I want to know who was doing his PR in Buckingham Palace before Megxit. This person has magic powers and should be sought out and employed by the White House IMMEDIATELY.
My goodness, if they can conjure a “loveable, cheeky chappy” out of a bitter, twisted, delusional and pretty stupid middle-aged manchild, then they will surely be able to convince the world that Biden is mentally sound and up to the job of POTUS.
“if they can conjure a “loveable, cheeky chappy” out of a bitter, twisted, delusional and pretty stupid middle-aged manchild”
Or maybe married to that woman did change him as a person.
Lord knows. Even though I find her vile in her own right, I’m not willing to blame her entirely for this.
A good partner should bring out the best in you: they seem to bring out the very worst in one another.
Indeed – a narcissistic folie-a-deux.
Why blame her at all? One does not have to like her, but it was Harry who chose her – presumably because he wanted to become the person she ‘brings out in him’, as you say.
Rasmus, this is one of your odder comments. Questioning why she should shoulder any blame for anything that’s happened because “Harry chose” her indicates a view of her as a passive object which was “chosen” which worries me.
Women, Meghan included, aren’t commodities that are picked off a shelf to sit around looking pretty as a wife or girlfriend. We choose our partners just as much as they choose us and also take joint responsibility with them in certain cases. Or at least that’s what we do if we behave like grown adults, which I cannot say of the Sussexes.
In this day and age the “poor little ignorant woman/wife” excuse shouldn’t wash and self-respecting women shouldn’t brandish it (see Amber Heard for how that one can go wrong).
I do not doubt that she has a lot of responsibility for the outcome, just that I do not see why we should get upset about it. After all, she owes nothing to Britain or the Windsors – it may not be nice if she wants to maximise her benefit at the expense of her in-laws, but why should we be shocked?
As someone noted, Edward, Duke of Windsor, did not abdicate because he wanted to marry Wallis Simpson. He wanted to marry Wallis Simpson because then he would have to abdicate. If marrying Meghan is what led Harry to the life he has now, then that is a major reason why he chose Meghan in the first place. The Duke of Sussex is a mature adult, and there is no doubt he knows what he is doing. If he chooses a wife and a life that causes great damage to his family and his country, it is he, not his wife, who is responsible for the consequences.
In a similar vein, nobody gets mad at the KGB for recruiting traitors – that is their business after all. All the blame goes to Kim Philby, Aldrich Ames, and their like.
She owes plenty to Britain and the Windsors! She owes us big time. We paid for her wedding and welcomed her into our Nation. She repaid us with insults and disrespect. She wanted fame. So too, it appears, did Harry.
Except he is not behaving like a mature adult. He and his wife are behaving like 2 year olds who have thrown all their toys from the pram and expect others to pick them up… NOW! Not a good look in a 2 year old. Absolutely ridiculous in adults. If he wants a reconciliation with family he needs to behave like a mature adult. Probably impossible and I really wish the pair of them would shut up. My TV finger is getting sore changing channels so I don’t have to watch this rubbish.
I agree.
Good for you. …. I wish them to disappear. Sadly …. I have the feeling their marriage will dissolve in 7-10 years and we will be treated to another chapter against our wills.
Not sure about ‘against our wills.’ I have a horrible feeling that the thousands and thousands of people who have purchased this utter whining, self-pitying drivel will fork out again for the next chapter.
Not sure about ‘against our wills.’ I have a horrible feeling that the thousands and thousands of people who have purchased this utter whining, self-pitying drivel will fork out again for the next chapter.
I agree.
Good for you. …. I wish them to disappear. Sadly …. I have the feeling their marriage will dissolve in 7-10 years and we will be treated to another chapter against our wills.
I don’t think ‘mature’ means what you think it means, Rasmus.
He is a middle aged white male, as he described the Palace ‘suits’, meaning it critically, one gathers.
He is a middle aged white male, as he described the Palace ‘suits’, meaning it critically, one gathers.
“There is no doubt that he knows what he is doing”.
Well, excuse me but I very much beg to differ. In my opinion, the evidence to suggest that he has absolutely no idea what he is doing is more than a little compelling! Frankly, if he did know what he was doing, he wouldn’t be doing this!
You can say she owes nothing to Britain or the Windsors but what about her husband and her children ? Frankly I don’t think either of them want privacy or dignity or they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in. They will keep digging in – rest assured. Everyone should look away and not oblige them.
She owes plenty to Britain and the Windsors! She owes us big time. We paid for her wedding and welcomed her into our Nation. She repaid us with insults and disrespect. She wanted fame. So too, it appears, did Harry.
Except he is not behaving like a mature adult. He and his wife are behaving like 2 year olds who have thrown all their toys from the pram and expect others to pick them up… NOW! Not a good look in a 2 year old. Absolutely ridiculous in adults. If he wants a reconciliation with family he needs to behave like a mature adult. Probably impossible and I really wish the pair of them would shut up. My TV finger is getting sore changing channels so I don’t have to watch this rubbish.
I don’t think ‘mature’ means what you think it means, Rasmus.
“There is no doubt that he knows what he is doing”.
Well, excuse me but I very much beg to differ. In my opinion, the evidence to suggest that he has absolutely no idea what he is doing is more than a little compelling! Frankly, if he did know what he was doing, he wouldn’t be doing this!
You can say she owes nothing to Britain or the Windsors but what about her husband and her children ? Frankly I don’t think either of them want privacy or dignity or they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in. They will keep digging in – rest assured. Everyone should look away and not oblige them.
From what I’ve seen on these pages, he’s set himself a pretty high bar!
Not only this …. in conventional circles it’s typically thought that it is the woman who does the choosing.But that would make Harry too much of a victim.
So OKAY … he’s said his piece and we have listened. Now it’s simply time for all of us to look away. IMHO
I do not doubt that she has a lot of responsibility for the outcome, just that I do not see why we should get upset about it. After all, she owes nothing to Britain or the Windsors – it may not be nice if she wants to maximise her benefit at the expense of her in-laws, but why should we be shocked?
As someone noted, Edward, Duke of Windsor, did not abdicate because he wanted to marry Wallis Simpson. He wanted to marry Wallis Simpson because then he would have to abdicate. If marrying Meghan is what led Harry to the life he has now, then that is a major reason why he chose Meghan in the first place. The Duke of Sussex is a mature adult, and there is no doubt he knows what he is doing. If he chooses a wife and a life that causes great damage to his family and his country, it is he, not his wife, who is responsible for the consequences.
In a similar vein, nobody gets mad at the KGB for recruiting traitors – that is their business after all. All the blame goes to Kim Philby, Aldrich Ames, and their like.
From what I’ve seen on these pages, he’s set himself a pretty high bar!
Not only this …. in conventional circles it’s typically thought that it is the woman who does the choosing.But that would make Harry too much of a victim.
So OKAY … he’s said his piece and we have listened. Now it’s simply time for all of us to look away. IMHO
Women choose the man mostly, not the other way around; it’s a biological imperative and in Meghan’s case her insecurity and needs were addressed by a man socially higher up and wealthier but also very needy indeed as well; A neediness that was ripe for the plucking.
spot on! all boxes ticked there
spot on! all boxes ticked there
I think that you have hit the nail on the head. Meghan gets a lot of the blame, and she may be a reprehensible character, but ultimately Harry chose her. It’s hard to believe that it was some sort of “master plan” rather a series of avoidable scenarios but the word avoidable must mean that he chose to persue them
Rasmus, this is one of your odder comments. Questioning why she should shoulder any blame for anything that’s happened because “Harry chose” her indicates a view of her as a passive object which was “chosen” which worries me.
Women, Meghan included, aren’t commodities that are picked off a shelf to sit around looking pretty as a wife or girlfriend. We choose our partners just as much as they choose us and also take joint responsibility with them in certain cases. Or at least that’s what we do if we behave like grown adults, which I cannot say of the Sussexes.
In this day and age the “poor little ignorant woman/wife” excuse shouldn’t wash and self-respecting women shouldn’t brandish it (see Amber Heard for how that one can go wrong).
Women choose the man mostly, not the other way around; it’s a biological imperative and in Meghan’s case her insecurity and needs were addressed by a man socially higher up and wealthier but also very needy indeed as well; A neediness that was ripe for the plucking.
I think that you have hit the nail on the head. Meghan gets a lot of the blame, and she may be a reprehensible character, but ultimately Harry chose her. It’s hard to believe that it was some sort of “master plan” rather a series of avoidable scenarios but the word avoidable must mean that he chose to persue them
“They certainly seem to have brought out the worst in each other.”
Well they have certainly brought out something pretty nasty in you, Katherine. They seem to be ‘triggering’ you quite violently- maybe you should stop looking, if it all makes you quite so angry.
Who wouldn’ t be angry at the venom and vindictive jealousy, plus illiterate stupidity, being dumped on a helpless RF? Plus libelling an entire country.
Rubbish. Katharine is spot on. Nasty is a silly word to describe what she says.
Who wouldn’ t be angry at the venom and vindictive jealousy, plus illiterate stupidity, being dumped on a helpless RF? Plus libelling an entire country.
Rubbish. Katharine is spot on. Nasty is a silly word to describe what she says.
Indeed – a narcissistic folie-a-deux.
Why blame her at all? One does not have to like her, but it was Harry who chose her – presumably because he wanted to become the person she ‘brings out in him’, as you say.
“They certainly seem to have brought out the worst in each other.”
Well they have certainly brought out something pretty nasty in you, Katherine. They seem to be ‘triggering’ you quite violently- maybe you should stop looking, if it all makes you quite so angry.
Harry succumbed to ‘woke’ Meghan and the lower class (and associated impulses) from which she herself was raised…
Nice. So who are more vile- women or the lower classes, would you say, Cathy? You seem to have the misfortune of being a mere woman, so at least I assume you don’t bare the horror of being working class.
“BARE the horror “.
Bear surely?
You’re absolutely right- I stand corrected. My “lower class impulses” showing….
Stop bluffing!
Of course I was joking. I’m not “lower class”- what a bloody thought!
Of course I was joking. I’m not “lower class”- what a bloody thought!
keep them under wraps in future!
Stop bluffing!
keep them under wraps in future!
You’re absolutely right- I stand corrected. My “lower class impulses” showing….
Wow. Right up yourself.
bear. bare means naked.
“BARE the horror “.
Bear surely?
Wow. Right up yourself.
bear. bare means naked.
Nice. So who are more vile- women or the lower classes, would you say, Cathy? You seem to have the misfortune of being a mere woman, so at least I assume you don’t bare the horror of being working class.
Lord knows. Even though I find her vile in her own right, I’m not willing to blame her entirely for this.
A good partner should bring out the best in you: they seem to bring out the very worst in one another.
Harry succumbed to ‘woke’ Meghan and the lower class (and associated impulses) from which she herself was raised…
The bottom line problem is that Meghan set out to change the Royal Family and was not willing to accept the way things were done. They didn’t follow her direction, so she made them wrong.
Off to set herself up as a Champion Democrat, standing up for woke antiracism and setting up foundations to get rich off her faux charity.
Then Harold (if he pinched Lilibet without real authorization, then let him feel how hurtful it is, to have your private, intimate name used by everyone) took on the lying. He now says his family isn’t racist, when he just took a fake prize from others of the Faux Foundation Charity class, for fighting the so called racism in the Royal Family.
These people personify the Woke/Narcissistic Zeitgeist. They just s*ck.
When I received a promotion, my parents commented that I was getting ‘out-of-my-Class’. My reply was that ‘It is not where I started that counts, but where I finish.” I waspishly added: “I’ll tell you when I have reached my class …”
In Harry Markle’s case the only way is down, but in MM’s case, as she has no class, even greeting people at WalMart is up.
Re: lower class Meghan – it’s just a fact. Read her text messages that Harry published to observe her use of words and expressions. She’s ‘flip’ and even rude. The fact that she made no effort to spruce up her appearance before meeting William for the first time (she appeared in ripped jeans and barefoot). That she hugged William rather than offering a respectful handshake before she got to know him. Her over-confidence and presumption was badly played. And most grossly – and so low class not to mention unhygienic- she asked Kate to borrow her lipstick- yuck! – no one does that – at least no one with manners. You never ask to borrow anyone’s personal cosmetics. Kate was too kind and lent her the stick when she should have politely said no and explained why. Everything about Meghan and the way she acts is presumptuous and audacious. I would be offended by her behavior so I am not surprised that the royals were aghast as well. Meghan didn’t take the time or have the emotional intelligence to read the crowd and it’s totally unacceptable for Harry to make excuses for her and in turn blame his family for Meghan’s tone deafness. Ms. Markle is hardly a class act.
Agree but it’s odd in someone who went to an expensive private school and a good collegrme. I think she was acting a part, hoping it was the right part. Americans are usually more polite.
Agree but it’s odd in someone who went to an expensive private school and a good collegrme. I think she was acting a part, hoping it was the right part. Americans are usually more polite.
Re: lower class Meghan – it’s just a fact. Read her text messages that Harry published to observe her use of words and expressions. She’s ‘flip’ and even rude. The fact that she made no effort to spruce up her appearance before meeting William for the first time (she appeared in ripped jeans and barefoot). That she hugged William rather than offering a respectful handshake before she got to know him. Her over-confidence and presumption was badly played. And most grossly – and so low class not to mention unhygienic- she asked Kate to borrow her lipstick- yuck! – no one does that – at least no one with manners. You never ask to borrow anyone’s personal cosmetics. Kate was too kind and lent her the stick when she should have politely said no and explained why. Everything about Meghan and the way she acts is presumptuous and audacious. I would be offended by her behavior so I am not surprised that the royals were aghast as well. Meghan didn’t take the time or have the emotional intelligence to read the crowd and it’s totally unacceptable for Harry to make excuses for her and in turn blame his family for Meghan’s tone deafness. Ms. Markle is hardly a class act.
“if they can conjure a “loveable, cheeky chappy” out of a bitter, twisted, delusional and pretty stupid middle-aged manchild”
Or maybe married to that woman did change him as a person.
The bottom line problem is that Meghan set out to change the Royal Family and was not willing to accept the way things were done. They didn’t follow her direction, so she made them wrong.
Off to set herself up as a Champion Democrat, standing up for woke antiracism and setting up foundations to get rich off her faux charity.
Then Harold (if he pinched Lilibet without real authorization, then let him feel how hurtful it is, to have your private, intimate name used by everyone) took on the lying. He now says his family isn’t racist, when he just took a fake prize from others of the Faux Foundation Charity class, for fighting the so called racism in the Royal Family.
These people personify the Woke/Narcissistic Zeitgeist. They just s*ck.
When I received a promotion, my parents commented that I was getting ‘out-of-my-Class’. My reply was that ‘It is not where I started that counts, but where I finish.” I waspishly added: “I’ll tell you when I have reached my class …”
In Harry Markle’s case the only way is down, but in MM’s case, as she has no class, even greeting people at WalMart is up.
“..he has the right to speak his mind and tell his own story…”
Erm, yes – but when doing so, he needs to get his facts straight and at no point in the past two years since he started “speaking his truth” has he actually achieved that with the result that no one in their right minds believes him anymore.
I want to know who was doing his PR in Buckingham Palace before Megxit. This person has magic powers and should be sought out and employed by the White House IMMEDIATELY.
My goodness, if they can conjure a “loveable, cheeky chappy” out of a bitter, twisted, delusional and pretty stupid middle-aged manchild, then they will surely be able to convince the world that Biden is mentally sound and up to the job of POTUS.
Sorry, but this is all his own doing. If he had chosen too step gracefully aside after the birth of his nephew, on the grounds that the succession was secure, he had done his constitutional duty and would now like to live privately away from the press which had so tormented him in his younger days, who would have denied him?
But that’s not what he did.
He complains that his position as a Prince prevented him from developing any career beyond opening buildings and speechifying on behalf of charities – but it seems, rather, to have been his own lack of talent and application that sealed his fate. Other princes from his own family and others across Europe, have found a useful role in life. Had Harry been so motivated, there was every opportunity for him to do so. Yet he chose to remain dependent on ‘Pa’ until the moment he decided to cash in on his Royal status while ditching the responsibilities, and wanted the family firm – and the country – to pay to keep him in the style to which his wife thought a prince should have been accustomed. While shutting the Press up with threats whenever any negative comment should appear.
He complains that his position as a Prince prevented him from developing any career beyond opening buildings and speechifying on behalf of charities – but it seems, rather, to have been his own lack of talent and application that sealed his fate. Other princes from his own family and others across Europe, have found a useful role in life. Had Harry been so motivated, there was every opportunity for him to do so. Yet he chose to remain dependent on ‘Pa’ until the moment he decided to cash in on his Royal status while ditching the responsibilities, and wanted the family firm – and the country – to pay to keep him in the style to which his wife thought a prince should have been accustomed. While shutting the Press up with threats whenever any negative comment should appear.
Sorry, but this is all his own doing. If he had chosen too step gracefully aside after the birth of his nephew, on the grounds that the succession was secure, he had done his constitutional duty and would now like to live privately away from the press which had so tormented him in his younger days, who would have denied him?
But that’s not what he did.
My God, Harry isn’t some kid but is 38 years old. I was an infantry battalion commander at that age, responsible for the well-being of around a thousand soldiers. It will be a sad day when this juvenile finally gets dumped and wants his old job back. Betrayals have life-long consequences.
US Infantry?
US Infantry?
My God, Harry isn’t some kid but is 38 years old. I was an infantry battalion commander at that age, responsible for the well-being of around a thousand soldiers. It will be a sad day when this juvenile finally gets dumped and wants his old job back. Betrayals have life-long consequences.
One of the least attractive elements of the Royal setup is the way children are born into a life in the public gaze without any choice in the matter, with their births and early milestones used by their family to bolster the profile of the Institution. Yet Harry and Meghan have chosen to perpetuate this on stilts for their own children, monetising their names and young lives, without in their case even the semblance of a public service justification.
True up to a point. But the eminently sensible Princess Royal refused to have titles for her children and they have lived comparatively normal lives. If Harry had renounced his titles and become Mr Windsor then his fleeing to the USA would have been applauded. He seems incapable of differentiating between the institution of monarchy and his family. It is possible to escape the former without trashing the latter.
He wants the best of both worlds and while hating the media, using them for his own gratification. Its his wife operating the strings,which will push him further down the ladder of depression.
Add Meghan’s agents advisers
Add Meghan’s agents advisers
Fair enough, but then also, Anne was never the spare; she would have been in line for the throne only if her three brothers had died without issue.
As for whether it would have been easy for Harry to fade into obscurity – I’m not so sure about that. After all, as the piece highlights, celebrity is only partly a function of personal choice; media interest and hence a prurient public play an essential part.
There are literally millions upon millions of places in the world where Harry could live in obscurity. The media has no interest in traveling to Africa or Asia for a story.
There are literally millions upon millions of places in the world where Harry could live in obscurity. The media has no interest in traveling to Africa or Asia for a story.
He wants the best of both worlds and while hating the media, using them for his own gratification. Its his wife operating the strings,which will push him further down the ladder of depression.
Fair enough, but then also, Anne was never the spare; she would have been in line for the throne only if her three brothers had died without issue.
As for whether it would have been easy for Harry to fade into obscurity – I’m not so sure about that. After all, as the piece highlights, celebrity is only partly a function of personal choice; media interest and hence a prurient public play an essential part.
We are all born into circumstance – all of us. Some are born into the shackles of royalty. Some are born into the shackles of slavery and poverty, like children in the Congo. I find it hard to shed a tear for the royals.
”One of the least attractive elements of the Royal setup is the way children are born into a life in the public gaze without any choice in the matter,”
What a silly statement… ‘Poor little rich boy’…..
It is just their thing. Want to feel this kind of feel legitimately? – well check out South Sudan starving, children’s cancer ward, the ghetto child…..
Because Royals are not to be pitied, it is their lot as it is of the ones truly born to suffer – and in really, the Royal gig is a pretty good one. As the quote in the vein of the conceit of this article says:
”“Some are born to sweet delight, Some are born to endless night.””
We are all born into “an institution” of one kind or another – poverty, middle class mediocrity, violence, starvation, lack of opportunity, etc etc. No child has any choice in the matter. Harry might not, as you say, signed the Faustian contract but his wife certainly did.
True up to a point. But the eminently sensible Princess Royal refused to have titles for her children and they have lived comparatively normal lives. If Harry had renounced his titles and become Mr Windsor then his fleeing to the USA would have been applauded. He seems incapable of differentiating between the institution of monarchy and his family. It is possible to escape the former without trashing the latter.
We are all born into circumstance – all of us. Some are born into the shackles of royalty. Some are born into the shackles of slavery and poverty, like children in the Congo. I find it hard to shed a tear for the royals.
”One of the least attractive elements of the Royal setup is the way children are born into a life in the public gaze without any choice in the matter,”
What a silly statement… ‘Poor little rich boy’…..
It is just their thing. Want to feel this kind of feel legitimately? – well check out South Sudan starving, children’s cancer ward, the ghetto child…..
Because Royals are not to be pitied, it is their lot as it is of the ones truly born to suffer – and in really, the Royal gig is a pretty good one. As the quote in the vein of the conceit of this article says:
”“Some are born to sweet delight, Some are born to endless night.””
We are all born into “an institution” of one kind or another – poverty, middle class mediocrity, violence, starvation, lack of opportunity, etc etc. No child has any choice in the matter. Harry might not, as you say, signed the Faustian contract but his wife certainly did.
One of the least attractive elements of the Royal setup is the way children are born into a life in the public gaze without any choice in the matter, with their births and early milestones used by their family to bolster the profile of the Institution. Yet Harry and Meghan have chosen to perpetuate this on stilts for their own children, monetising their names and young lives, without in their case even the semblance of a public service justification.
The man child seems to be reacting viscerally, with no counsel in his familial interests except for those seeking to make money – his wife has abandoned her family and seems comfortable with him abandoning his family too.
One wonders where they will be in 10 years time repeating the same stories again and again.
She divorces him by then. This grievance gig will get tiring for the rest of the world, they will become irrelevant and she will move onto the next grift.
I think you’re correct. But then he’ll want to come back here – do we really want that?
I think you’re correct. But then he’ll want to come back here – do we really want that?
The same stories but tweaked and polished and adjusted to try to attract attention yet again
She divorces him by then. This grievance gig will get tiring for the rest of the world, they will become irrelevant and she will move onto the next grift.
The same stories but tweaked and polished and adjusted to try to attract attention yet again
The man child seems to be reacting viscerally, with no counsel in his familial interests except for those seeking to make money – his wife has abandoned her family and seems comfortable with him abandoning his family too.
One wonders where they will be in 10 years time repeating the same stories again and again.
Prince Harry symbolizes the weakness and delusion that is rotting out the west. He is just another grifter from the grievance dujour industry, whining about his oppression and hardship, while living in opulence. He’s no different than the privileged university student complaining about safe spaces and oppression, completely oblivious to the challenges and suffering of the other 99% of the population.
Not only the other 99% of the population, but the inhabitants of the majority of countries in the world, from Ukraine to North Korea.
Not only the other 99% of the population, but the inhabitants of the majority of countries in the world, from Ukraine to North Korea.
Prince Harry symbolizes the weakness and delusion that is rotting out the west. He is just another grifter from the grievance dujour industry, whining about his oppression and hardship, while living in opulence. He’s no different than the privileged university student complaining about safe spaces and oppression, completely oblivious to the challenges and suffering of the other 99% of the population.
He was not “shunned” . He received a huge bequest from his mother £30m plus. He has been sent to Eton. He has been indulged in the forces . His conduct as a young man has been a world of shoots, parties, polo, travel – none of which he has had to work for. He has been endlessly going on about his mothers death. Killed by being in another country with Mr Fayed whose driver was extremely drunk. But he never mentions that bit.
If he had been a lad from, say, Scunthorpe rather than a prince, what are the chances that he would ever have met Megan Markle, or that she would have married him?
If he had been a lad from, say, Scunthorpe rather than a prince, what are the chances that he would ever have met Megan Markle, or that she would have married him?
He was not “shunned” . He received a huge bequest from his mother £30m plus. He has been sent to Eton. He has been indulged in the forces . His conduct as a young man has been a world of shoots, parties, polo, travel – none of which he has had to work for. He has been endlessly going on about his mothers death. Killed by being in another country with Mr Fayed whose driver was extremely drunk. But he never mentions that bit.
“There are two sides to every story”. Well, no, there aren’t. There’s the truth, and then there is how the story teller may spin the story to get fame or sympathy or whatever. In other words, it’s another version of that foul expression “my truth”. Which is usually a pack of lies and distortions.
I agree. There is the truth and opinions. Woke is based on opinions which are pushed as the truth, and that’s why Woke doesn’t make much sense imo. The same with Harold and his wife – they talk in woke riddles, which work to support their narrative of being wronged by their respective families, whilst simultaneously seeking entry into the world of celebrity, which as we all know, is where safety, privacy and truth are to be found.
It’s the hypocrisy and downright self-serving dishonesty of it all which I find most annoying.
I agree. There is the truth and opinions. Woke is based on opinions which are pushed as the truth, and that’s why Woke doesn’t make much sense imo. The same with Harold and his wife – they talk in woke riddles, which work to support their narrative of being wronged by their respective families, whilst simultaneously seeking entry into the world of celebrity, which as we all know, is where safety, privacy and truth are to be found.
It’s the hypocrisy and downright self-serving dishonesty of it all which I find most annoying.
“There are two sides to every story”. Well, no, there aren’t. There’s the truth, and then there is how the story teller may spin the story to get fame or sympathy or whatever. In other words, it’s another version of that foul expression “my truth”. Which is usually a pack of lies and distortions.
I feel dismayed that commentators often refer to these “two” as having said whatever it is and then whatever it was said – its taken as “the” truth (as opposed to THEIR truth).
I think the pair of them have to exaggerate and embellish “their story” for marketing and sales (therefore profit) purposes – in the certain knowledge the Royal Household will not stoop so low as to rebut. If they did they would be dragged into an undignified turf war. Therefore athe Sussex’ know they are safe.
Strip them of their Titles I say. They say they dont want to be part of his family – so lets do it properly.
I feel dismayed that commentators often refer to these “two” as having said whatever it is and then whatever it was said – its taken as “the” truth (as opposed to THEIR truth).
I think the pair of them have to exaggerate and embellish “their story” for marketing and sales (therefore profit) purposes – in the certain knowledge the Royal Household will not stoop so low as to rebut. If they did they would be dragged into an undignified turf war. Therefore athe Sussex’ know they are safe.
Strip them of their Titles I say. They say they dont want to be part of his family – so lets do it properly.
No doubt in 50 years Harry will face a vexatious prosecution for killing those 25 Taliban, just as today Soldier F is being prosecuted for killing a mere 2 of the 13 killed on so called ‘Bloody Sunday’ nearly 51 years ago.
If the propagandists for the next terrorist atrocity inflicted on us by Muslim extremists make a reference to the removal of western ‘chess pieces’, I wonder how people will react to that?
Such atrocities will inevitably happen anyway, but that’s a very prominent flag he’s just hoisted which may come back to bite him hard.
Good point.
Perhaps it’s a ploy to get ‘us’ to pay for his Security?
Indeed. Because, according to the Harry formerly known as ‘Prince’, HIS words weren’t dangerous: it was the ‘spin’ put on them by the nasty-wasty British Press that created the danger. Danger to him and his Montecito family, that is, and he’s VERY angry about their recklessness.In fact (?) by now he’s probably concluded that his awful family, led by the Queen Consort, was behind it, ‘feeding’ that angle to the press. No credence, then, should be given to the concerns expressed by the military, and by those responsible for the security of the injured service personnel (from many countries) due to take part in the Invictus Games? Everybody’s wrong but Harry – oh, and his ‘perfect’ Meghan.
Indeed. Because, according to the Harry formerly known as ‘Prince’, HIS words weren’t dangerous: it was the ‘spin’ put on them by the nasty-wasty British Press that created the danger. Danger to him and his Montecito family, that is, and he’s VERY angry about their recklessness.In fact (?) by now he’s probably concluded that his awful family, led by the Queen Consort, was behind it, ‘feeding’ that angle to the press. No credence, then, should be given to the concerns expressed by the military, and by those responsible for the security of the injured service personnel (from many countries) due to take part in the Invictus Games? Everybody’s wrong but Harry – oh, and his ‘perfect’ Meghan.
Good point.
Perhaps it’s a ploy to get ‘us’ to pay for his Security?
Ah but did he? I think not. Mind you the taliban calling the kettle black with the all they do.
Difficult to tell really, but it’s not the sort of talk one might expect from the Officer’s Mess.
Either way the killing is rather ‘detached ‘ these days. Just a few blobs on a TV screen disintegrating, rather like a video game such a “Grand Theft Auto”*.
Nothing like beating a man to death with the butt of an SLR ** in Leeson St, for example.
(* Source..a grandchild.)
(** Self Loading Rifle.)
Harry should have joined The Welsh Guards…
Why?
Was James Hewitt Welsh?
No, from Somerset and he was a ” Galloping Grocer” aka Life Guard… Was going to be a gunner or chipper, but just joined the right interview queue at New College, as quite of few similar did when Life Guards were ‘ short’!!!
So why the Welsh Guards then?
So why the Welsh Guards then?
No, from Somerset and he was a ” Galloping Grocer” aka Life Guard… Was going to be a gunner or chipper, but just joined the right interview queue at New College, as quite of few similar did when Life Guards were ‘ short’!!!
Why?
Was James Hewitt Welsh?
What do you mean “killing is rather ‘detached ‘ these days”?
My father fought in France on the retreat to Dunkirk, and from 6th June 1944 from Gold Beach to the Netherlands, and ‘the enemy’ was usually invisible, except when surrendered or dead. He was infantry, so it would be even more remote if artillery or air force, which were much used.
Thank you.
If I may ask, how many people did your late father bayonet, bludgeon to death or shoot at very close range?
Additionally sitting in an Apache helicopter is to be rather ‘detached’, don’t you think?
You seem to be getting a bit over-excited by all this delightful talk of bludgeoning people to death, Charles.
Have you been spending too long playing video games again?
I think it maybe you who is getting excited, but I cannot think why.
As for video games, best left to the grandchildren, their expertise is simply unbeatable!
I think it maybe you who is getting excited, but I cannot think why.
As for video games, best left to the grandchildren, their expertise is simply unbeatable!
You seem to be getting a bit over-excited by all this delightful talk of bludgeoning people to death, Charles.
Have you been spending too long playing video games again?
Thank you.
If I may ask, how many people did your late father bayonet, bludgeon to death or shoot at very close range?
Additionally sitting in an Apache helicopter is to be rather ‘detached’, don’t you think?
Harry should have joined The Welsh Guards…
What do you mean “killing is rather ‘detached ‘ these days”?
My father fought in France on the retreat to Dunkirk, and from 6th June 1944 from Gold Beach to the Netherlands, and ‘the enemy’ was usually invisible, except when surrendered or dead. He was infantry, so it would be even more remote if artillery or air force, which were much used.
Difficult to tell really, but it’s not the sort of talk one might expect from the Officer’s Mess.
Either way the killing is rather ‘detached ‘ these days. Just a few blobs on a TV screen disintegrating, rather like a video game such a “Grand Theft Auto”*.
Nothing like beating a man to death with the butt of an SLR ** in Leeson St, for example.
(* Source..a grandchild.)
(** Self Loading Rifle.)
Harry didn’t kill 25 Taliban. He captured them, whinged about his life for a few hours and they shot themselves.
Wish that was mine, but sadly, stolen from the DT.
“Who can blame them”!
Full marks for the DT.
These bons mots are worthy of full attribution ! Is the “DT” the Daily Tribune? Any idea how to locate the name of the columnist-wag who came up with this?
“Who can blame them”!
Full marks for the DT.
These bons mots are worthy of full attribution ! Is the “DT” the Daily Tribune? Any idea how to locate the name of the columnist-wag who came up with this?
Generally, there is limited sympathy for combatants, i.e., people who choose to get involved in violence. Issue re that incident was that the dead were ordinary civilians. If 2 of your relatives on a civil rights march – and NI was a rotten borough at that time, as you know – had been killed Charles, one suspects the word “mere” would not have been used. In a democracy, nobody on any side should have amnesties for killing civilians and then lying about it afterwards, surely?
If the propagandists for the next terrorist atrocity inflicted on us by Muslim extremists make a reference to the removal of western ‘chess pieces’, I wonder how people will react to that?
Such atrocities will inevitably happen anyway, but that’s a very prominent flag he’s just hoisted which may come back to bite him hard.
Ah but did he? I think not. Mind you the taliban calling the kettle black with the all they do.
Harry didn’t kill 25 Taliban. He captured them, whinged about his life for a few hours and they shot themselves.
Wish that was mine, but sadly, stolen from the DT.
Generally, there is limited sympathy for combatants, i.e., people who choose to get involved in violence. Issue re that incident was that the dead were ordinary civilians. If 2 of your relatives on a civil rights march – and NI was a rotten borough at that time, as you know – had been killed Charles, one suspects the word “mere” would not have been used. In a democracy, nobody on any side should have amnesties for killing civilians and then lying about it afterwards, surely?
No doubt in 50 years Harry will face a vexatious prosecution for killing those 25 Taliban, just as today Soldier F is being prosecuted for killing a mere 2 of the 13 killed on so called ‘Bloody Sunday’ nearly 51 years ago.
” As a child I was taught that “actions speak louder than words.” In my (not so) humble opinion, Harry’s actions, even before handing control of his very being to Miss Markle, were never manly, and he is still a lost boy. Sadly, he turned out not to be a worthy spare, but only a flat tyre.
” As a child I was taught that “actions speak louder than words.” In my (not so) humble opinion, Harry’s actions, even before handing control of his very being to Miss Markle, were never manly, and he is still a lost boy. Sadly, he turned out not to be a worthy spare, but only a flat tyre.
What must burn is the quiet realisation that he could have kept quiet and enjoyed life with his young family, cut a few ribbons, opened a few fetes, donned a ceremonial uniform now and again and stayed popular. This angry pressure must turn eventually on the cause of it all, his wife. Then what?
What must burn is the quiet realisation that he could have kept quiet and enjoyed life with his young family, cut a few ribbons, opened a few fetes, donned a ceremonial uniform now and again and stayed popular. This angry pressure must turn eventually on the cause of it all, his wife. Then what?
Harry’s talents were put on display, as well as his much discussed weaknesses and faults. He is the most articulate of the Royals; the King speaks in a manner which immediately sets him apart from the public, an almost embarrassingly refined diction; and Prince Andrew reveals a lack of judgement and thought reflected immediately in halting speech. But Harry was never at a loss for words to express his emotions, his truth. He inherited the gift of his mother’s which enables him to present himself as someone relatable and in touch with his emotions.
But the content was toxic, and reflected a narcissism worthy of the worst of 21st century instant celebrities. He came across as a Shakespearean rival to kingly power, jealous of his elder brother’s role at the same time as he presented himself as the more worthy of the two because of his “honesty,” his “virtue,” his “truth.” His transformation from popular young prince to toxic rival has much to do with his monstrously narcissistic wife, but the jealously and resentment of family is his. All his.
Harry’s talents were put on display, as well as his much discussed weaknesses and faults. He is the most articulate of the Royals; the King speaks in a manner which immediately sets him apart from the public, an almost embarrassingly refined diction; and Prince Andrew reveals a lack of judgement and thought reflected immediately in halting speech. But Harry was never at a loss for words to express his emotions, his truth. He inherited the gift of his mother’s which enables him to present himself as someone relatable and in touch with his emotions.
But the content was toxic, and reflected a narcissism worthy of the worst of 21st century instant celebrities. He came across as a Shakespearean rival to kingly power, jealous of his elder brother’s role at the same time as he presented himself as the more worthy of the two because of his “honesty,” his “virtue,” his “truth.” His transformation from popular young prince to toxic rival has much to do with his monstrously narcissistic wife, but the jealously and resentment of family is his. All his.