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Jerry Sadowitz is too good to cancel He may be a monster, but at least he's talented

“An explosion of hate on stage”. Jerry Sadowitz


August 16, 2022   6 mins

“Jerry Sadowitz is a nasty piece of work. His venomous tirade is relentless, consisting of unabashed racism, homophobia, misogyny, antisemitism, xenophobia, and every other kind of prejudice known to humankind. If it exists, he hates it. The man is a monster. He’s also one of the best showmen on the Edinburgh Fringe.”

This was how I opened my review of Jerry Sadowitz’s show for ScotsGay magazine in 2008. I described his performance as “an explosion of hate on stage”, but noted that the effect was both prurient and deliriously funny. That Sadowitz’s unending bile is often interspersed with adroitly executed magic tricks makes his routines all the more compelling. When critics quote his jokes out of context, it’s easy to see why so many are offended — but when it comes to Sadowitz, context is everything.

Such a distinction, however, is lost on many of today’s comedy aficionados. This week, the Pleasance — one of the so-called “big four” venues at the Fringe — cancelled Sadowitz’s show at the Edinburgh International Conference Centre. In an incredible feat of doublespeak, Anthony Alderson, Director of the Pleasance, claimed that it is “a venue that champions freedom of speech” and does “not censor comedians’ material” but has nonetheless cancelled this show because it “is not acceptable and does not align with our values”.

There is much to criticise in Alderson’s statement, not least his high-handed claim that “this type of material has no place on the festival”. In recent years, the doyens of the comedy industry have developed a tediously pharisaic approach to the artform. Critics, promoters, and even comedians themselves have behaved like a modern-day clergy, censuring acts who fail to conform to the diktats of the new morality. The comedy industry, in other words, is seemingly dominated by those who are not comedy-literate.

The Pleasance Theatre Trust issued a further statement claiming that “opinions such as those displayed on stage by Sadowitz are not acceptable”, thereby revealing how little it understands about the essential theatricality of stand-up. Are “jokes” and “opinions” now synonymous? To take stand-up at face value, to attempt to apply moral guidelines to a theatrical performance, is to misapprehend the experience. Denouncing Sadowitz’s onstage persona as racist, sexist, or homophobic makes about as much sense as condemning Macbeth for his ruthless ambition.

Besides, Sadowitz isn’t the only one affected. The current trend of cancelling comedians is infantilising audience members by deeming them susceptible to corruption through their favourite shows. It is the identical view that underpinned Mary Whitehouse’s “Clean Up TV” campaign in the Sixties. For Whitehouse, it wasn’t sufficient that adults make choices about what they did or did not watch; authority figures were expected to intervene in order to prevent the spread of “dangerous” ideas that might lead the plebeians astray.

Anyone who has undertaken the least research into Sadowitz will know what they are in for. The Pleasance was certainly aware of his style and content (and his tendency to expose his penis) well in advance of the festival. Sadowitz had even posted a promo video in which he referred to himself in the third person, saying: “He’s gonna be funny. He’s gonna be rude. He’s gonna do magic tricks. He’s gonna do impressions. He’s gonna get his dick out. He’s gonna do every fucking thing.”

In another promo, Sadowitz said: “I might just do card tricks and say nothing for a whole hour or I might just do the usual ‘screaming fascist’ schtick. Or both. Patrons may wish to drink alcohol pre-show to avoid boredom, embarrassment and guilt.” His current show is entitled Not For Anyone. When I reviewed his show in 2008, it was called Comedian, Magician, Psychopath II. One can hardly accuse Sadowitz of false advertising.

So why is it that a show explicitly marketed at adults who enjoy controversial comedy would need to be cancelled? I have been told that some of the complaints originated from members of staff at the Pleasance itself — reminiscent of the revolt at the Canadian branch of Penguin Random House, where junior employees apparently burst into tears and demanded the cancellation of Jordan Peterson’s book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. In Peterson’s case, the publishers refused to be cowed. At the Pleasance, the management capitulated.

This philistine trend gained momentum at the launch of the 2018 Edinburgh Fringe, when Comedy Awards director Nica Burns declared that she was “looking forward to comedy’s future in the woke world”. She went on to compare the current fashion for “woke” to the alternative comedians of the Eighties, claiming that “it is the woke movement which is setting an ever-evolving agenda as it seeks to establish a clear marker for what is unacceptable today”.

The implied decree was observed by up-and-coming comics in subsequent years; eligibility for awards or plaudits would be reserved for those who toe the ideological line. This is why I continually hear from stand-ups who are choosing to self-censor, who fear that their viability in the industry is contingent on maintaining the status quo. This is why we have seen so many second-rate acts promoted by the industry for conveying the “correct” message, one typically related to the new religion of Group Identity. This is also why so many television comedy shows are failing to attract viewers. For all the industry gatekeepers and their pretensions to moral superiority, comedy audiences would still much rather laugh than hear a sermon.

Burns had it entirely backwards when she compared the “woke world” to the alternative comedy movement. The complaints we hear today about subversive comedians like Sadowitz are strikingly reminiscent of the anger against the alternative comics of the Eighties, those who dared to challenge establishment norms. When I co-founded Comedy Unleashed, a monthly night in London, it was an effort to provide opportunities to those comics who are by nature non-conforming. It wasn’t about being controversial, it was about creating a show in which ideas could be explored freely, and where the priority would be to be funny rather than preachy.

The unhinged reactions to our recent announcement of a Comedy Unleashed tour have been revealing. One of the acts, Reginald D. Hunter, was trending for the day on Twitter because he had dared to appear on the bill. One comedian tweeted: “If you do that tour: you’re a fucking scab” and “Comedians need to pick a side: I’m an anarchist”. The comedian in question has a show on BBC Radio 4, so his definition of “anarchy” seems dubious at best.

Up until now, Sadowitz has been able to evade the accusatory finger-pointing of culture warriors — those who are determined to see racists and fascists in every shadow — by dint of his status as a luminary among comedians. Stand-ups who have admired Sadowitz for years will baulk at the suggestion that there is no distinction between his act and that of Roy “Chubby” Brown. But for those who have succumbed to the new puritanism, words have a contaminative power. Racist epithets are always racist; context be damned.

In a statement released yesterday, Sadowitz wrote: “I don’t want to humiliate the Pleasance but they are doubling down on their position and I don’t want to be made the victim of that…  My act is now being cheapened and simplified as unsafe, homophobic, misogynistic and racist… A lot of thought goes into my shows and while I don’t always get it right… I am offended by those who, having never seen me before, hear words being shouted in the first five minutes before storming out without listening to the material which I am stupid enough to believe is funny”.

Sadowitz’s frustration is palpable, and rightly so. It is similarly frustrating to see him forced to break character publicly — possibly for the first time in his career — simply because a few know-nothings with too much power cannot comprehend the notion of an onstage persona and its function in stand-up. We have reached a point where the art of comedy has been demeaned by a “progressive” view of language and power relations. Consider how the tax lawyer and Twitter activist Jolyon Maugham responded to an opinion piece about the attack on Salman Rushdie. He claimed that when it comes to free speech, one should “engage with relative power. Who has a platform to speak — and for what purpose do they use it, to challenge or to embed power?”

This is the basic formulation to which all artistic expression is now reduced. So when Sadowitz screams racial slurs, he is not doing so as part of an unhinged comedic persona, but is perpetuating power structures that maintain his privilege. That he is Jewish doesn’t seem to matter because, as David Baddiel has argued, Jews don’t count.

We have seen comedians investigated by police, members of the public prosecuted for jokes, and the Culture Secretary suggesting that the law ought to be changed to criminalise controversial comedy on streaming services. At each step on this road to Pandemonium, mainstream comedians have remained silent, as though it is of no concern to them that their craft is being subjected to continual battering. There is nothing particularly surprising about the cancellation of Sadowitz’s show; it was simply a matter of time.

Perhaps now that the new puritans are targeting respected comedians like Sadowitz, other stand-ups will wake up to the problem. Comedy cannot exist in an environment where words are deemed to be “unsafe”, and risk-takers are punished with cancellation. This is why Sadowitz deserves your support, even if you cannot stomach his performances. He is one of the few comedians who has been instrumental in pushing boundaries. God forbid we allow these pettifogging authoritarians to re-establish the parameters in accordance with their banal and bloodless creed.


Andrew Doyle is a comedian and creator of the Twitter persona Titania McGrath

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Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago

I had never heard of Sadowitz before the cancellation of his show. I have never attended a comedy show but am now keen to see him perform. Hopefully, all this free advertising will have the opposite effect on his career to that which the woke mob intended by having his show cancelled.

John Murray
John Murray
1 year ago

Honestly, as a University of Edinburgh alum, I just find this really depressing. I have dim memories of seeing Jerry Sadowitz while there in the very early 90’s, although I don’t think it was at The Pleasance. I do not recall thinking he was particularly offensive, but sensibilities were more robust then.

Alphonse Pfarti
Alphonse Pfarti
1 year ago
Reply to  John Murray

I saw Kevin Bloody Wilson around the same time. Now that would NOT happen today.

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

He’s on tour at the moment, not all cancelled I hope, the first para of his blurb (Andrew quoted the second para) goes like this:
Jerry Sadowitz returns with his whacky impressions of Greta Thunberg, Frankie Boyle and deep vein thrombosis. He also promises to do less hate fuelled swearing and focus more on faux liberal pish in order to appeal to the middle class and their disposable income and personalities.

Tim Fowler
Tim Fowler
1 year ago

What I find particularly infuriating is the annexation of the word « safe » to mean some kind of perceived right to be unchallenged and unoffended simply by the existence of contrary ideas.

It’s unsafe to live in Ukraine or Yemen. It’s unsafe to go to school in Texas. It’s unsafe not to have clean water. And from my own experience, it’s unsafe to walk down a street in Belfast in the 80’s, knowing there are people who are trying to shred you alive with flying glass from a bomb.

Sigh.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

There is a certain irony in publishing an article in support of Sadowitz in a publication that routinely deletes comments contains words that might be regarded as offensive in different contexts and opinions that might offend. I am a big fan of Unherd but it nevertheless has a censorious filter that has a pretty woke aspect to it when it comes to comment – something the editors sedulously avoid commenting on or discussing.

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

I just now made a comment about Doyle’s hypocritical reference to Mr Royston Vasey and had it removed! Ho hum…

Robert Eagle
Robert Eagle
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Butcher

It’s censorship by robot. Companies such as OpenWeb are making fortunes from their tedious algorithms

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Eagle

I used to read the comments on the UK Motley Fool where moderation kept conversation civilised and generally interesting while I didn’t bother with Adfin where the comments tended to descend into pointless flame wars – so I am not against some level of moderation to avoid pointless vulgar flame wars.

What is irritating is the robot censorship that is triggered by pretty common words and blanket censorship of any comments where “sensitive” subjects are discussed coupled with over-sensitive moderation. The ability to flag up comment for consideration by the moderators should be sufficient when coupled by robust rather than sensitive moderators. Can Unherd not find less sensitive and woke automatic systems at a reasonable price? It is a free speech issue that deserves discussion by Unherd. Right up their alley I would have thought, but they seem reluctant to touch the subject despite its potential to generate interest.

I don’t usually get caught out myself now as I have worked out a fair number of the trigger words and know not to refer to ex Metropolitan Police Chief Cressida “Richard” for example.

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Testing, Scunthorpe.

Maureen Finucane
Maureen Finucane
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

If I have a comment deleted anywhere or put into moderation I unsubscribe.

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

My wife and I were not particular fans of Jerry Sadowitz when he first appeared on the scene (late 80s). Deep in our own struggles, we wouldn’t have had or spent the disposable income to go out and be shouted at in an age of shouty comedians.

But give the guy his due, he was cancelled back then also after publicly calling out Jimmy saville.https://hmsfriday.com/2012/10/12/jerry-sadowitz-on-jimmy-savile-back-in-1988/

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago

And yet even you, Andrew, single out Roy Chubby Brown as an acceptable target for your opprobrium. Thousand of people go to his shows every year, and they couldn’t care less about the joyless exercise in narcissism that is the Edinburgh Festival.

Andrew Doyle
Andrew Doyle
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Butcher

On the contrary, I was openly critical of the cancellation of Brown’s show. You’ve misunderstood my point.

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew Doyle

Ok but your paragraph was somewhat ambiguous – maybe you should clarify the distinction you refer to

Aw Zk
Aw Zk
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Butcher

Jeff, I don’t think Andrew singled out Roy Chubby Brown for his opprobrium. He was writing about how comedians view Jerry Sadowitz and Roy Chubby Brown.
Andrew, you have been openly critical of the cancellation of Roy Chubby Brown‘s show but I don’t think that was in this article. You said it elsewhere and Jeff may not know that.
I have seen neither Jerry Sadowitz nor Roy Chubby Brown so I won’t compare and contrast their work but I will compare and contrast something else.
When Jerry Sadowitz’s Edinburgh show was cancelled expressions of dismay from fellow comedians came very quickly and there has been discussion of the issue of free speech in comedy in various media outlets in the last few days.
Venues have been cancelling Roy Chubby Brown’s shows on the grounds that the show’s content may cause offence for years. I have found news reports about nine different Roy Chubby Brown shows which have been cancelled, the earliest being in 2016. I haven’t found any reports of fellow comedians expressing dismay for the cancellation of Roy Chubby Brown’s shows or discussions of Roy Chubby Brown’s right to free speech.

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago
Reply to  Aw Zk

That’s very helpful thanks

Nikki Hayes
Nikki Hayes
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew Doyle

Totally off topic but just wanted to say how much I love you on GB News :o)

John Davies
John Davies
1 year ago

Not sure why but I think Jerry Sadowitz is a genius. To say the things he says, with the style and panache that he says them with, and to refuse to be compartmentalised and intimidated by authority, makes him a hero of our times. Look forward to seeing him on tour later in the year, provided the new puritans dont cancel him first.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago

Comedians have become the canary-in-the-goldmine in the USA as well. What’s left once you eliminate all offense is incredibly awful stuff, really boring, and truly unfunny material. Case in point – A few months ago, my husband and I, both comedy enthusiasts, spent an evening at Stand Up NY on NYC’s Upper Westside. One gets to sample about 6 to 8 comedians in an evening. It’s a small club so the audience is almost as prominent as the act itself. As we coursed through the evening more than half of the comedians noted our ‘older ages – 65 & 70’ – one noted that my hair matched the silver wallpaper (that was funny?!), another told my handsome husband he could star in a Cialis (viagra) commercial (huh?), etc, etc. It was as if they were really straining for something to say. It was okay to go after the old folks though! Funny enough – when the show was over and we were walking out – the club manager & some of the comedians were standing around smoking and one of them, with head bowed down sheepishly apologized for the ‘attacks’. OMG what comedian would apologize for their work. Don Rickles is howling from the skies above.

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Aw Zk
Aw Zk
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

Cathy, I’m fascinated by and grateful for your comment because I’m interested in what the comedy scene is like in the USA. Comedy (and particularly stand-up) is something that has not crossed borders as much as music or film or TV drama but I have heard a lot of comedy aficionados say that American comedy is much better than British comedy. I’m a fan of Bill Hicks, I like what I’ve seen of Doug Stanhope and Chris Rock and I’ve seen a couple of George Carlin’s last specials and wonder what his earlier work was like but I’ve always thought Louis CK is massively over-rated.
However, I’m curious about the comedy you’ve seen recently that has disappointed you and what sort of comedy you would like to see. Is what you have seen bland and tame? Do you want political satire or offensive comedy? What topics do comedians talk about and not talk about? If I was a comedian in America in the last few years I would have been doing routines about Trump, QAnon, Biden, dead rappers, Black Lives Matter, mass shootings and the person I want to stand in and win the Presidential Election in 2024.

Aw Zk
Aw Zk
1 year ago

I don’t dispute the existence of cancel culture but I don’t like the way some people talk about it and Dave Chappelle is an example of that. There isn’t a single person or organisation with the power to ban someone from all venues and media outlets. Some people would like the power to do that and some people believe that if they are offended they have the right to expect that the person who has offended them should be banned from all venues and media outlets but no entity has that power.
However, people and organisations have the power to ban someone from their own venues or media outlets and have used that power. Dave Chappelle’s show at First Avenue in Minneapolis was cancelled by the venue but instead he performed at another venue on the same night and he has continued to perform and to appear on Netflix. Lots of Roy Chubby Brown shows have been cancelled over the years and one of those cancellations was discussed at length at the time but not in great depth because no-one discussed what the council involved had allowed to happen on its premises for eighteen years and what it was still failing to do. Enough people and organisations have used or encouraged others to use that power to create what we now know as “cancel culture” but it is not the only or first such culture.
Andrew Doyle is standing up for a noble cause and whilst I haven’t been to a Comedy Unleashed show the idea of a comedy show which guarantees free speech for comedians is an excellent one and I wish I had thought of it (actually I did and I wrote about it years before Comedy Unleashed was established). However, the fight for free speech in comedy and in general hasn’t been going well and that’s because it hasn’t been fought well and because comedy is not a significant cultural or political force. Decades ago comedy was more popular and what comedians and comedy shows said or did was more influential but in this century comedy has become increasingly irrelevant as it has become dominated by lazy panel shows, self-obsessed stand-ups and sitcoms and comedians who don’t care about being funny.
However, for me the worst thing is that some comedians have expressed support for the cancellation of comedy shows. One comedian who recently expressed support for Jerry Sadowitz signed a letter expressing support for the cancellation of a stand-up comedy show and which led to the cancellation of a TV comedy show. Another signatory to the same letter is a close friend of Jerry Sadowitz. Some comedians are part of cancel culture.

Richard Parker
Richard Parker
1 year ago

I remember Sadowitz from the early 90s: in particular I recall him mercilessly sending himself up on his television show. Whatever he dished out, he didn’t seem to spare himself. Kudos to him for that if nothing else.

Ah, what brave people the culture warriors and religious extremists are: taking up weapons to fight… words, words, words, words, words. And a high ranking lawyer lecturing us all on power and privilege? That really is weapons-grade irony, made all the more potent by being apparently unaware. Tragedy played out as farce.

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MJ Reid
MJ Reid
1 year ago

Jerry Sadowitz is a very funny man. He makes me cry from laughing so hard! How dare kids tell me who I am allowed to laugh at. How dare kids who know nothing about the dark side of life tell me what as I am allowed to find funny. Life in the vanilla lane is extremely boring and not worth living. We need edgy, adult comics who understand life in all its glorious riotous colour to make old crabbit women like me laugh out loud. The kids need to get back in the toy box until we tell them they can leave, and that won’t be anytime soon!

David Sharpe
David Sharpe
1 year ago

This does feel like an important moment and there’s so much to say around this issue that it probably deserves a whole book (up for that Andrew?).
Lots of comments around the web saying ‘never heard of Sadowitz”, which is exactly right and how it should be. His is a niche act.
My first encounter with Sadowitz was in 1987 when the NME championed his album “Gobshite”. At that time, the NME didn’t cover comedy, so to give a comedy album their “Album of the Week” award and to give it a full page several-hundred-word review was unusual. I was a teenage comedy obsessive, so thought “wow”, this is going to be good, went down to my local HMV and bought a copy.
And I liked it. Didn’t love it, but it was OK. Some have compared Sadowitz’s work to the Derek and Clive albums of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, but I always felt it was closer to what Alexei Sayle had done at the start of his career, with his ‘Stream of Tastelessness” routine, which you can hear on the Comic Strip album, which was recently re-released on CD.
There was a number of performers at that time who were exploring the role of the “fool”, and this is where I’d place Sadowitz. Tony Allen’s book “Attitude” provides a good overview of this scene. And for me, Sadowitz’s onstage persona is rather like a fool from a Shakespeare play – he’s there to cause mischief and mayhem.
The most staggering thing for me, though, about this whole episode is the behaviour of The Pleasance, which, for over 30 years, has been at the forefront of Fringe comedy. Comedy only became a dominant art form at the Fringe in the 1980s because of performers like Sadowitz and because venues sprung up like The Pleasance to cater for those performers.
The Pleasance isn’t a single venue. Initially, it was a collection of mostly small rooms in an old building just south of Edinburgh’s city centre. It has expanded massively since the days when Christopher Richardson used to run it and now, as well as the original building, it operates venues throughout the city.
So the history of the Pleasance and the career of Jerry Sadowitz are intertwined. Neither are that well known in the world outside comedy festivals, but both are legendary within that world. They are part of the same legacy.
So for The Pleasance to say that they couldn’t have possibly known what Sadowitz’s performance would consist of is rather like Smirnoff saying they aren’t aware that their vodka contains alcohol.
Or maybe they can, because this seems to have been a screw up from the start. Sadowitz’s performance did not take place at one of the core Pleasance venues, but at the EICC, a huge, soulless conference centre, totally unsuited to comedy at the best of times. What on earth were they thinking? Apparently, it was less than half full. Of course it was. It’s a niche act for a minority audience. This does seem to suggest that those running The Pleasance these days are not all that knowledgable about the “product” they’re selling.
Furthermore, why would a “fringe” venue even want to rent out a space like the EICC? The point of the Fringe was to provide an alternative to the main Edinburgh International Festival. It’s only in the last 25 years (since it uncoupled itself from the International Festival and changed dates) that it has become this huge profit-making enterprise, which I think goes against its original ethos. The Fringe is no longer a “fringe” – it should now be called “The Edinburgh Mainstream Festival”.
It’s going to be very interesting to see how comedians particularly on the left (where most are) respond to this. It has been good to see a wide range of performers speak out, but I’ll be particularly interested to see what Stewart Lee has to say, as (A) he has long called Sadowitz one of the best stand-ups of his generation and (B) has in the past performed material which some will find very offensive.
That’s probably all very rambly, sorry, but it’s annoyed me.

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Katherine Finn
Katherine Finn
1 year ago

Agree with every word, except your last para – wokescolds started targeting respected comedians such as Ricky Gervais and Dave Chappelle years ago. It’s a disgrace. May they all die of boredom.

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
1 year ago

I don’t know about anyone else, but I sense a pressure building in which all of this nonsense is suddenly going to flip, and the poor folks, some more innocent than others, stuck on the wrong side of a collapsed narrative will flee from it in abject fear. Including the poor folks running the Pleasance in Edinburgh. Expect many hushed denials of complicity in the failed revolution, even more revisions of history, and lots of “but everyone else was doing it” and it “just seemed like right thing to do” and “I just wanted to keep my job”. Etc etc etc. It will get very boring very quickly.

Let’s be kind to them if and when it does happen, and treat them as we would want to be treated – because there, but for the grace of God, go we. We are all human, the same flesh and blood. Forgive but do not forget, so that when the dark forces inevitably manifest themselves again, maybe – just maybe – it will be just a little bit easier for the future minority (with genius misfits like Sadowicz in the vanguard), who have no choice but to, once again, stand up for truth, love, justice, and beauty against the boot stamping endlessly on the human face.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew Horsman

No. Let’s be extremely unkind to the woke. Let’s cancel the living schidt out of them.

Nikki Hayes
Nikki Hayes
1 year ago

Sadowitz sounds like exactly the kind of comedian me and my late husband would have loved to see. This censorship is getting ridiculous – I always thought the Fringe was about pushing boundaries, clearly I was mistaken.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

being able to take the p*** is not only a sacred freedom, the more offended the offended are, the funnier! I only takeafence out hunting or on the gallops…

Keith Merrick
Keith Merrick
1 year ago

I agree with this piece, apart from the bit where Andrew suggests that Mary Whitehouse and others were wrong to believe that adults are swayed by the culture they are exposed to. I’m 63 and though I’m not as easily influenced as I was as a teenager, still my views are constantly changing due to things I’ve seen, read or heard.

Paul Devlin
Paul Devlin
1 year ago

This is the logical outcome of the ‘alternative comedy’ process. When jokes in front of an audience are seen not as entertainment but as part of a wider progressive political project, this will always be the result. Andrew does it himself when he mentions Roy Chubby Brown with such horror and disdain

Alphonse Pfarti
Alphonse Pfarti
1 year ago

My understanding (second hand) is that it was the kn0&-out antics rather than the jokes. No surprise if it came from staff rather than punters either. But you can’t say he didn’t give a ‘trigger warning’, eh?

Tony Sandy
Tony Sandy
1 year ago

Humour shatters the illusions and delusions of the ego. In other words it stops us taking life seriously and believing it makes logical or indeed any other kind of sense. It is all theatre of the absurd. It is the shock of the new that we can’t protect ourselves from as it is horribly unpredictable.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago

I have not seen him perform, and after reading what he does I cannot see my doing so. I actually wonder why anyone would book him (money, I suppose) or go to see him, but having done so, why the suprise? If I owned a comedy club I wouldn’t book him, perhaps I’d go bust pretty quickly, though, seeing the amount of filth people seemed to like at the comedy venues that I have had the misfortune to attend. Perhaps they should have warned the people working in the theatre what he was like so that they could avoid listening to him, however, for the punters there is a simple rule – just don’t go.

Richard Powell
Richard Powell
1 year ago

The punters can’t choose not to go if the venue refuses to book him.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Powell

A venue can choose who they book, whether they are right or wrong will then depend on how many people turn up.

David Shipley
David Shipley
1 year ago

Indeed. And plenty of people bought tickets. If the Pleasance had cancelled the shows because they had not sold any tickets, that would be the free market at work, but it didn’t. Unfortunately at venues such as the Young Vic and the Pleasance management has allowed the staff to be self-appointed censors.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  David Shipley

Couldn’t agree with you more. Just because his act seems repulsive (from what I’ve read) and I would neither see nor hire him, doesn’t mean I agree that he should be cancelled. It’s just that I cannot understand why anyone would want to see him, unless what I’ve read about his act is untrue, of course.