Brexit has now passed the landmark 100 days and is done, at least politically. An exit deal and a pandemic have sunk its salience for voters, and neither Boris Johnson nor Keir Starmer see any merit in reminding them about it. But that doesn’t mean the publishers have stopped; far from it. Brexit is an Important issue which means that Important thinkers must write Important books about it.
So while Brexit may be done, only the dead have seen the end of Brexit books, which include Britain Alone by Philip Stephens, This Sovereign Isle by Robert Tombs and Gavin Esler’s How Britain Ends . None of them is terrible but all are sadly limited, and those limits say something interesting about Brexit and how its huge weight presses down on people who think about it too much, leaving some to buckle.
Stephens’s book is both the most accomplished and least interesting. As a long-standing columnist (and previously political editor) at the Financial Times, Stephens has extensive access to some of the key participants in Britain’s exit from the EU, and the subsequent search for an idea of what it should mean for UK foreign policy. He uses that access to good effect, painting a coherent picture of the thinking and feelings of those actors: the amateurism and arrogance of David Cameron is nicely captured, as is the bemusement of German officials who can’t quite believe that a British PM seriously believes he can charm Angela Merkel into overturning decades of German European policy for him.
Of the three books at hand, I suspect only Stephens’s will register with future historians of Brexit, because it encapsulates so neatly the views and voices of the foreign policy elites whose world was shattered by the 2016 referendum result. But for those of us alive and interested in Brexit today, the book is almost useless, since it’s all been said before. No one who regularly reads the FT or Economist will learn anything new from Stephens’s account of the FCO’s despair and European diplomats’ horror at the victory of the Brexiteers.
They certainly won’t learn anything about how that victory came about. Stephens makes no visible effort to understand the reasons the Brexiteers wanted to leave, or why 17.4 million voters backed them. Sometimes, he cannot hide his contempt. When Cameron’s somewhat accidental rejection of an EU eurozone bailout treaty in 2011 is received by Conservative MPs and voters as a triumph, this response is dismissed as “pathetic” without any attempt at analysis. Likewise, Leavers are “elderly voters looking to reclaim the past” and the “left behind”; Remainers are “affluent and well-educated” and ensure that at least the “great cities” vote against Brexit.
A better book would wonder why, say, 1.5 million Londoners (40%) voted Leave, or why a similar proportion of voters aged 25-34 did so. But all Stephens can offer is that Boris Johnson is a good liar and Vote Leave successfully exploited voters’s grievances. Given that this book is published almost five years after the vote, during which time a lot of good research has been done into the motivations of Leavers and the Brexit campaign, it’s more than a little disappointing to see a leading political journalist show so little interest in the fundamentals of the biggest political event of his lifetime.
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SubscribeBrexit for me was most interesting in how it clearly outlined the fault line between Liberalism and Democracy. As an avid FT reader throughout this period, I was taken aback by the fury of the modern Whigs lamenting the choice of the unworthy masses. Both the writers, article after article, and the enraged commenters (save for a few defiant ones) the reaction was clear. In the light of this, I think the ideas in Goodhart’s The Road to Somewhere may be the best analysis of the underlying currents that led to Brexit, and ultimately Brexit itself.
Speaking as someone who has actually read Goodhart’s book, I completely agree. Have an upvote with my compliments.
FT is Liberal/Left, which always amazed me, I had expected hard bitten Conservatives, but instaed it is entitled Liberals shilling for the Global Elites – which I gusee is reasonable as the Global Elites are using Liberalism to destroy the Middle Class, and thus democracy, as that leaves the wealthy and the low income masses who get paid by the benefits for their vots, new age Feudalism. FT’ You will own what you are given, and you will tolerate it.’ (The Great Reset as seen from above)
This podcast is a very digestible summary of Goodhart’s thesis: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-road-to-somewhere-with-david-goodhart/id1499818185?i=1000470050575
It’s amazing that people like Esler can reach the age of 50 or 60 and still have zero understanding of the world around them or of countless of their countrymen and women. But that’s the BBC and the metropolitan ‘elites’ for you, and that’s why we switched off years ago.
Problem is, the world around them probably consists of people just like themselves. If you work at the BBC everyone you meet is probably a guardian reading labour voting “socialist” with a nice house in London, a nanny, a cleaner, a well paying job in the Media and an aversion to the union flag.
Yes, and we all know this to be a large part of the problem. This is why the BBC must be de-licensed (I threw my TV out over 20 years ago) and the universities de-funded outside of STEM.
I would much prefer to see the beeb return to what it did well rather than disappear so I wouldn’t de-fund it. As regard the universities I’d suggest just get rid of student loans (let students sort out their own loans) but give grants to those who study STEM subjects. I’d also fund those who are engaged in craft & trade training eg plumbing.
oh english nationalism raises its ugly head
I’ll take patriotism over “hatred of the English people” any day.
That’s a false dichotomy if ever there was one.
There are many patriots in the UK who have no time for English (or other) nationalism, and who don’t actually hate the English people. Many of them are English.
To hate themselves has been a known characteristic of certain English people for generations.
The technical word is ‘Oikophobia’ or Oik for short. Rather similar to Plebian and Pleb and from the same ‘well’.
see George Orwell, the funniest thing is ”To see English intellectuals on a moral crusade”.
You may be confusing self-deprecation, or even self-awareness, with self-hatred.
To which nationalism do you refer?
What a strange leap to make… How did anything in my post make you think of “English nationalism”?
Gavin Esler used to be a host on an obscure bbc news program called Dateline London, in which foreign correspondence, based in London, would give light to the type of copy that they would be writing for the sheets back home. I used to watch it for a laugh. The msm is international. It is deaf, blind and biased and completely lacking in self awareness. Marvellous qualities for journalist.
That was, I assume, an immigrant nanny and another immigrant cleaner – both of whom share an attic bedroom. They will also pay cash to illegal immigrant gardeners, painters and decorators etc..
And one of the reasons why a majority of us voted Leave.
So the majority voted leave in protest at the BBC?
As the BBC had operated as an EU department for many years, they were definitely considered part of the democratic deficit.
On that basis, the answer to your simplistic binary question is probably “yes”.
None of the leave voters I know gave the BBC as a reason. I think this obsession with the BBC and the licence fee may be a Conservative Central Office thing. It’s not that widespread outside of the echo chamber.
It’s widespread in my house. Perhaps it is you living in the echo chamber.
Either that, or your house may not be entirely representative of the country.
As for echo chambers, my wife and I vigorously debate many issues on which we disagree. We have both modified our positions as a result.
“Either that, or your house may not be entirely representative of the country.”
But of course yours is.
“…my wife and I vigorously debate many issues on which we disagree.”
And come to exactly the same conclusion that you started with. Who’d have thunk it.
That’s literally the opposite of what I said. Perhaps that explains your confidence that the country voted leave in protest against the BBC.
The BBC could probably have won it for LEAVE on their own; but they didnt need to; ‘Project Fear’ did a huge amount of the heavy lifting in persuading ordinary people that all these people needed to be kicked out.
Yes, never was a referendum campaign so ill-judged. Remain snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with their negative campaigning.
I don’t think Remain snatched defeat from the jaws of victory but I certainly agree with you that their referendum campaign was lamentable.
It was all threat and fear. No-one came up with
(1) one convincing positive reason to remain in the EU. (This reason is still like one of Wackford Squeers’s eyes in Nicholas Nickleby – ‘somewhat missing’ as Dickens put it);
(2) any projection of a credible kind about what the EU would become over the years ahead; how the UK would not be engulfed and shackled (once for all) by the Brussels dictatorship via strategic wiles with regard to majority-voting &c.
What the Remain campaign did (from their point of view) positively achieve was to cow so many citizens with dreadful scenarios (e.g. 500,000 lose jobs AT ONCE, our GDP shrinks within a year by £80 billion if Leave so much as wins the vote, let alone we actually depart); that the Leave majority was much reduced from what it would have been had there not been Project Terror for 66 continuous days and nights April-June 2016.
In the event, one of the little-remarked features of that poll was the giant MORAL victory it embodied.
Harangued and threatened by nearly all the major constituted authorities in this land and some others – inc. the Treasury, the Bank of England, the OECD, the leaderships of all parties except UKIP in this country, most of academe, Big Business, all of whom made predictions hugely mistaken and stultified ever since – nevertheless enough of our nation had the courage to do the right thing and vote to leave.
A new referendum now would probably produce a very large majority for staying out of the EU.
Missing the point, he said ‘…one of the reasons…’
Coverage of Brexit on the BBC has been shown to have been very one sided, Today programme interviewees were hugely weighted toward Remain for example.
If you switched off you missed a lot. Serves you right. Now you only get to access sources of misinformation and extremism
Actually I get information far superior to anything the BBC will ever give me, from people like Jimmy Dore on the left to Ben Shapiro on the right, and many people in the middle such as Tim Pool and The Duran, whose geo-political coverage and information is outstanding.
I also read a wide range of serious books, from people like Varoufakis on the left to conservatives like Roger Scruton.
The BBC is to broadcasting and information what McDonalds is to nutrition.
Or indeed King Herod to babysitting
;););)
“The BBC is to broadcasting and information what McDonalds is to nutrition”
Sir ..you win the quote of the day prize…. with your permission I shall reusecthat many many times
Too much time on Twitter will do that to anyone. Its coded to reinforce one’s own bigotry and ( unknowingly or not) to sow social discord. Personally, I think it should be regulated to virtual non existence.
I only appreciated how important it was to achieve Brexit when I saw the appalling behaviour of “the establishment”.
My Schadenfreude also continues to this day.
It’s schadenfreude a go, go over here. Gloat factor 10…. 11 with the Spinal Tap attachment.
And what the “establishment” was trying to do was retain its position and standing – it did so, but at ruinous cost.
Even though I voted Remain I can acknowledge the ”establishment” helped make border issues around Ireland more contentious through voting down settlements that would have been a much better fit when it comes to accommodating the North.
Although the FBPE contingent had a great time of it on Twitter with their ‘spiders’, we ultimately got stuck with quite a reckless Conservative cabinet through the perception that Brexit was perilously close to being abandoned.
“So while Brexit may be done, only the dead have seen the end of Brexit books, which include Britain Alone by Philip Stephens, This Sovereign Isle by Robert Tombs and Gavin Esler’s How Britain Ends . None of them is terrible but all are sadly limited, and those limits say something interesting about Brexit and how its huge weight presses down on people who think about it too much, leaving some to buckle.”
Yes, quite. The ongoing moaning and whinging and lack of acceptance among certain groups is starting to seem sick and compulsive. I feel sorry for such people – being that bitter must eat up a lot of energy. Every minute spent saying “it’s wrong! It’s so bad! This is never going to work!” is one minute less spent thinking about how best to move forward and deal pragmatically with the new situation.
I just ask them if they’ve had their vaccine yet.
Haha!
There is no cure for TDS, and it seems BDS either.
But every minute also prompts one to say; ‘where’s that cliff edge?’
I would be interested to know what the books and indeed, Kirkup, think about the future of the EU. The issue is not simply about the future of the UK, because the (shaky) future of the EU is what persuaded many to vote leave.
Indeed, also the MSM refused to facilitate this discussion professionally at any point.
The MSM would lack the intellect and knowledge to conduct such a discussion. Nor would they tolerate any criticism of the EU, or any suggestion that their beloved EU might fail. They are profoundly ignorant. (I write as one who has lived, worked and paid taxes in three EU countries, and who still does a lot of work for companies in the EU).
You make an important point (‘The MSM….are profoundly ignorant’.)
In the past mainstream journalists very much inhabited gramophone-record grooves of 2nd-hand thinking – that is why they were not novelists or entrepreneurs. But they did do research, investigated things, found out facts for themselves.
Nowadays they live entirely on a diet of what the politicians feed them and/or what their peers say in the Groupthink bubble they inhabit.
Even Ben Rhodes, President Obama’s right-hand man and fellow-vandal, who had hand-fed them propaganda for years with unlimited success, felt utter contempt for the Washington DC press corps. (Cf his interview of 5 May 2016 with the New York Times magazine.)
Indeed, journalists have become courtiers to the powerful.
I’m always fairly surprised at the reaction to any suggestion that the EU might be a sinking ship. It’s surely quite a natural response to think that certain situations, things, people will go on forever (see the genuine shock at Prince Philip’s death despite the obvious fact that he was, at the end of the day, a mere mortal). However, what I don’t get is the response “it’s too big to fail”. This overlooks more or less all of history, during which every empire/union which has ever existed has fallen apart. Surely the British are among the best placed to absorb that?
Europe and UK just lockdowned themselves to oblivion. The economic destruction it caused, the job losses, which will be immediately be fallowed by Automation replacing huge numbers of jobs (WFH it seems is making AI really accelerate to white collar, as automation is killing off blue collar.)
Is your point that the Telegraph and the Express didn’t write about how the EU is “doomed”, or that they did – but in a partisan, unprofessional or less than rigorous way?
ALL MSM are commies, basically, excepting a few maybe, like Fox which is Centrist, wile FT is distinctly Left.
Yes this! At the time of the vote and after, most of my friends and colleagues voted remain. They would often focus on the uncertainty of leaving as a major issue.
I would respond if they had a good idea of where the EU would be in 5-10 years time also? Where the growing discrepancy between Southern and Northern countries, the Eurozone debts of weaker members and growing European-wide anti-EU sentiment would lead?
Remainers loved the bus over a cliff analogy – which actually works pretty well for Leaving too. The EU/Eurozone is careening towards some unknown and unpalatable conclusion. Surely it’s better we jumped off the bus before it got to the cliff, leaving us with a few bumps and scrapes.
Exactly my position, so many of my friends couldn’t see my point of view. Perhaps in a few years they will.
I fear the Eurozone will Collapse like Yugoslavia,NOT Czech &Slovak Separation? No Velvet revolution or Solution?..Eurobonds seem to depress in value daily
My experience too was that I was surrounded by Remain-voters, few of whom were pro-EU so much as scared of rocking the boat, and of course this was a major propaganda theme followed by Remain supporters, hence constant repetition of ‘cliff-edge’.
Like you, my reply was that I had come to suspect that the EC/EU was capable of terribly bad decisions. I winced (wince) when Leavers predict the end of the EU, because I don’t know whether it will or it won’t happen, I don’t know whether that will be good or bad, and for the EU or the UK, the point being that however much people like to portray ‘ever closer union’ as both inevitable and Good.
Likewise, the continuation of the UK as an independent union is uncertain today, and yet it has existed far longer than the EU, and England has existed as a distinct state for even longer. I know where I’ll place my bet on stability.
Why just England? Do you not support a united kingdom?
I wouldn’t expect most hereabouts to have much awareness of, much less any truck with, Thomas Fazi and William Mitchell but their “Eurozone Dystopia” is as thoroughgoing a takedown of the entire premise of the Euro area as you are likely to find anywhere. Perhaps a useful reminder that intelligence is still present across the political spectrum?
At a London dinner party I announced that I had voted for Brexit hoping for an interesting and educated discussion and was imediately told to “f*** off” – by allegedly educated people – who later backed this up by calling me a racist. It appears their universal resentment was because it would make travel to their pied a terre in the Med more costly and complicated.
I knew then I’d made the right decision to vote to Leave. Remaining was all about the UK paying membership £billions and having a nearly £100billion annual trade deficit merely for the convenience of those with a second home on the Med.
Yes, and their foul-mouthed aggression makes a particular nonsense of their constant attempt to occupy the ‘civilised’ high ground.
I have the honour of having been de-friended by a Fellow of All Souls, following her discovery that I had voted for Brexit because of immigration.
Praise indeed Sir!
The inability of these people to distinguish between a political institution (the EU) and people (Europeans) is frightening, especially because they think they are really, really intelligent and superior to us knuckle-dragging Brexit chumps (hence their continued condescension).
but we at least can see the wood for the trees.
Go on any of the Britian in Europe Facebook pages and read the moaning and whinging. And even now not one of them has any respect for the democratic process and they view all leave voters as racist etc, etc, etc.
Presumably your dinner party was in Quislington?
I coined ‘QuIslington’ so thanks for taking it up. We might yet get it accepted as standard usage!
Yes it is an excellent barb of yours and I endeavour to use it whenever possible. Thanks.
I like it too. It’d be interesting to know how many, say, Antifa members would understand the reference. They fancy themselves so well-informed on Fascism and National Socialism, after all.
I grew up in Quislington & left in 1972 because we were forced out of our unheated, no running hot water or bathroom. The sole lavatory in the house was outside & shared with the other family living in the same house. Most of islington became “gentrified” ie beyond our means. Since then, when asked where I come from I always reply “I am a refugee from the PR of Islington”
Not too far away
I’m in my forties and currently pursuing a doctorate. It is my experience that the higher up the academic food chain I go the more arrogant and stupid the people are.
I agree this is often the way. Too busy chasing fine detail to see the wider and often more sensible view point.
It’s probably true of political and corporate foodchains as well, and probably says something about the skills needed to rise in hierarchical organisations.
see SAGE,these So called ”Scientists” propel ‘Baby talk’ they need Stuffing! Lack of Data,Only Models as per St.Greta of Airmiles Vacuous epithets?..
I was at a party when someone asked me what I voted, to the horror of the hostess, who clearly feared bad feeling, so I answered frankly. We all then had a civilised discussion about it, during which my wife and I discovered that we had each voted differently, and it remained friendly then and thereafter. It was nowhere near Islington.
‘It was nowhere near Islington.’
Quite. Cause and effect.
Racist, xenophobe, Little Englander, poorly educated, didn’t-know-what-you-voted-for. Oh and leaving will be disaster.
So, Mr Remainer, that’s it? You have no actual argument in for staying in the EU?
As any marketing man will tell you, knocking copy has its limits.
Enforced homogenisation will inevitably lead to a kickback from people (most of humanity bar Guardian readers) who take pride in whom they are. Bill Clinton’s famous words- it is the economy, stupid- work when the context is local. In international affairs it is culture, nationhood, history and self determination, stupid!
As another comment says, read David Goodhart to understand Brexit. Read Esler to see true lack of remainer insight.
You’re right, but culture, nationhood, history and self determination tend to be good for the economy.
“…Esler, once a celebrated foreign reporter, is apparently beyond such embarrassment, proudly telling us how he had the last word in his dialogue with his driver…”
Wow, he won a political argument with a London cab driver, and is motivated enough to boast about it in a book. He sounds nice.
To be honest, if he could get a word in edgeways during an argument with a cabbie, he’s probably feeling pretty chuffed with himself. I agree though, he sounds like a tool.
He obviously wasn’t trying to go anywhere outside the West End/City if he was able to get a journey in a London cab.
I’d like to hear the cab driver’s side of it. His opinion is no less important than Esler’s.
I agree completely.
Perhaps it was worth recalling what Professor Tombs wrote a few years ago:
“By the standards of humanity as a whole, England over the centuries has been among the richest, safest and best governed places on earth, as periodical influxes of people testify. Its living standards in the 14th century were higher than much of the world in the 20th… We who have lived in England since 1945 have been among the luckiest people in the existence of h**o sapiens, rich, peaceful and healthy”
Yes, and Robert Tombs is a historian who actually knows what he is talking about. When the likes of Forsyth rubbish him they are just revealing their own blinkered ignorance.
Surely the reason why the Financial Times’s ‘Stephens’ – and most politicians and journalists at national level – ‘make[s] no visible effort to understand the reasons the Brexiteers wanted to leave, or why 17.4 million voters backed them’ – even now, after five years since our referendum vote – is Self-Interest.
The Ruling Caste in the western world today is a smug ‘meritocracy’ (without merit) populating all the positions of power and influence and doing ever nicelier out of their construction of a world of privilege and unaccountability for themselves.
One mode of unaccountability is provided by the Lords of Tech, the Silicon Valley billionaires who own and rule social media. If you say things on Twitter or Facebook which disagree with the orthodoxies that benefit the ruling class, either your post is removed or it is festooned with warnings about its factual claims being unreliable.
Another mode of unacountability is contemporary publishing houses. A man or woman can write a brilliant book, thoroughly researched, unimpugnable as to its findings and deductions; but if it be ‘right-wing’ (i.e. moderately conservative in tendency) it has but a slim chance of being published.
The European Union is a Nirvana of highly paid, highly placed jobs for people – politicians, bureaucrats, hangers-on – who don’t want to have to give any significant account of themselves to the publics nominally electing them. Journalists of the mainstream media are now mostly among the hangers-on and are courtiers in this newish aristocracy of which they themselves are junior partners.
The EU is a real big step towards a world wholly fashioned according to the will of Bilderberg and Davos. – Supremely cossetted elites decide everything in their favour globe-wide and then hand their decisions down to the polloi as beneficial; a populace which has no lever, no mechanism, for ever rejecting their basic ruling strategies in any ballot boxes.
If (for instance) the people of Europe don’t agree with the Paris Accords on Climate Change – either because they think them nonsense or insufficiently effective (China and India allowed to belch carbon for a decade longer) – then how do they vote them out?
All this explains why at the national level, the Political Class, the Journalist Class, the Bureaucrats have in nearly all cases spent five years bewailing the results of our 2016 Referendum, the vote for President Trump in the USA that year, and the prosperity of populist parties and movements across Europe since then, without ever asking themselves what motivated people to offer those candidates and themes their suffrages.
As so often is the case in life, don’t bother to construct an elaborate Freudian or Jungian or Adlerian motivation for this behaviour; nor seek its roots in theology or psychoanalysis. Chiefly it will suffice to
Follow the money/privilege/peer-group pressure.
Yes, at bottom it is about nothing more than money and privilege.
This was a well-written comment, Peter. In particular:
This describes LinkedIn to a tee.
I read that as “describes Lineker to a tee”
Peter makes a valid point:
But I’d find it more persuasive in the context of Brexit if the rest of the world order, dominated by the US, were not exactly the same – or worse. The Trans Pacific Partnership, and the CPTPP (without the US government, but led by the same multinational interests) is not notably less protective of the interests of the elites than the EU – quite the contrary. At least in the EU there is a countervailing strand – however weak – of democracy, human rights, and protective standards for workers’ rights and safety.
As the UK applies to join CPTPP, we may be out of the frying pan and into the fire, in terms of control by elites.
As so often is the case in life, don’t bother to construct an elaborate Freudian or Jungian or Adlerian motivation for this behaviour; nor seek its roots in theology or psychoanalysis.
I would love to hear though some kind of Jungian analysis regarding the corporate world’s embrace of woke politics – the collective (shadow un-?) conscious guiding an elite towards divisive measures in order to protect its interests/status, perhaps?
Yes it is known that Cameron was/is arrogant, and everyone is quick to point that out – but what of the German arrogance here? Agree with Cameron or not, their blind refusal to bend enabled one of the EU’s most important nations to leave, and has now threatened the unity of the EU.
Perhaps he overstates it in the book, but I’m inclined to agree with Tombs here. It’s not that other European countries don’t have an international outlook (France does especially, but mainly focussed on her overseas territories and former colonies, of which all are much weaker than France). It’s that the UK is much more wedded culturally and even socially to countries outside of Europe (US, Can, Aus, NZ of course). Anecdotally, it has always baffled my European friends how we (the British) use “Europe” and “European” to describe people from the continent, as an ‘other’ – “But you are European are you not?” is a common response.
So yes I would say Britain is “exceptional” in this regards, in the literal sense. We don’t generally have the same feeling of being European as those on the continent.
As an old newspaper headline declared: “Fog in Channel. Continent cut off.”
And quite right too!
The only time I consider myself European is during the Ryder Cup and only then because most of the players are British playing against insufferable Yanks.
The other former colonial powers still have influence in their former colonies, but do not have anything like the Commonwealth. I look forward to our relationships with the Commonwealth strengthening now we are free from the shackles of the EU.
Yes I neglected the Commonwealth in my comment. The millions of Anglo-Commonwealth Britons are a testament to that.
You should be warned that increasingly the majority of the populations of the Commonwealth nations don’t give a stuff about the UK.
I agree with you. I’m not aware that there are warm relations between Portugal and the Netherlands and their former colonies, and nor between France and its colonies, although that is a more diverse situation. I think Tombs was thinking that not only do we have mature relationships with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, including family ties, but that even with major countries now more remote such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, there are also innumerable family ties. Bear this in mind, and look at a map.
Yes I missed that point! I only found out fairly recently how large a minority in the UK are from India. Also that Indian nationals on visas are able to vote in the General Election. If Corbyn had also known this he might have not bad mouthed India over Kashmir in the run up to the last GE…
But point being even in our law we have inbuilt close ties with India and Commonwealth that even EU citizens never enjoyed.
The effortless smug superiority of arch-remainers like Anthony Grayling and Philip Pullman was (and still is) enough to make anyone grind their teeth.
Bright but dim, as can be said for so many academics.
Bright but dim, as can be said for so many academics.
I have met a few academics like that. Very, very intelligent, clever people but almost incapable of tieing their own shoelaces
Yes, extreme intelligence guarantees no immunity to jaw-dropping stupidity.
Yes, I am of the opinion that intellegence is the ability to absorb knowledge and draw conclusions from it. There are many people with that capability who are too lazy to do it.
Though as they still seem to live here nothing awful must have happened- just as lots of ‘celebs’ in America promised to move to Canada if Trump got in-noone seems to have gone. Some people with access to a public voice just seem to use it to try to make others feel anxious.
I used to enjoy Kate Atkinson andJonathan Coe’s novels but their last ones respectively were trite drivel, pantomime stuff – oooh look, the baddy voted Brexit, boooo hiss.
pathetic. I have lost any respect I used to have for them as novelists and won’t be bothering to reas or re-read any of their works. I suspect it’s the case for quite a few of our “elites” (in their mind). Which is fine – plenty of better classic novels to get through and I won’t be paying to be insulted.
People who identified with EU and were committed to remaining are not going to change. They will attribute British crises waiting unknown in the future to Brexit for as long as the EU survives.
“Building Europe” is the policy of EU governments though they do not all agree how high the building should go. Over time, sight is lost of the value of a policy which develops a life of its own that ceases to be questioned.
When the policy doesn’t meet expectations, you apply bandaid rather than reconsider whether it’s right. As the 1950s French politician Guy Mollet said: “It is not because our policy is bad that we are going to change it.”
The Attlean settlement of 1945 became the policy of both Conservative and Labour governments until it failed beyond saving in the 1970s. Only then could Thatcher introduce a new policy. There are people today who still say that the Callaghan government was already doing things which could have saved the Attlean settlement. You never willingly give up a policy that is tied to your personal credibility.
The EU is the policy of the transnational political elites of which the Remainers are part. People like AC Grayling who told Guy Verhofstadt to squeeze the UK’s Brexit negotiators until they cried for mercy. Even Verhofstadt, than whom there is no more dedicated Europhile, looked askance at that level of willingness to do down a man’s own country.
The fact is that Britain in Europe was never to the liking of the British people. The voted for Brexit as soon as the opportunity offered itself and they are not alone. Distrust of the EU is much more widespread among EU electorates than we are told.
Even Macron said he would never allow a Frexit referendum because he feared the French would vote against it. But maybe if they don’t get the chance, they’ll take it anyway. The EU is not written in Diderot’s book.
Great comment.
Brexit happened when it did because I think that the UK electorate were finally given an opportunity that, ‘elephant in the room stylee’, they were so obviously being denied, lest there was a chance they might make the ‘wrong’ choice, which of course they subsequently did.
I suspect that had referenda been allowed earlier, say when Maastricht was signed by Major or when mooted by Blair around the time of the Lisbon Treaty, the chances of a majority leave vote ever happening would have been next to zero, not least because the general level of understanding in the UK about the EU and its ratcheting political aims at these times was so low.
Both these watershed moments in the European Project’s progression surely warranted specific democratic reference but none was forthcoming, either out of arrogance or fear or both, but if I were a betting man I strongly suspect that had either been allowed to have taken place the UK would still be in the EU today ironically.
I’m not so sure. I have read that had the 1975 Referendum been held a year or two later the result would have been exactly reversed. People took against the EEC or EU as it became remarkably quickly. The bullying of Remain and its many, many lies almost worked, and had that dimwit in Berlin given Cameron something he could have sold he would have won.
We shall never know, but I take your point.
What’s fascinating about that Cameron/Merkel exchange is how illustrative it is of where the power of the EU ultimately lies, for all the rosy rhetoric.
Pew Research, one of the two opinion pollsters I really respect, did a survey of French opinion about the EU at the time of our referendum in 2016.
61% of French people said they were fed up of the EU.
I doubt if this figure has shrunk since then.
A Briton I know travelled for a weekend break, with a party of friends, to a beer festival in Bremen in N. Germany, the October of 2016; and there met with a group of young Germans (who of course spoke excellent English!).
One of them, named Reinhardt, took my friend aside and murmured to him in admiration, ‘You British have b-lls’.
Actually it is a most salient theme.
A majority of French, Dutch and German people ought by now to have elected parliaments with outright majorities committed to unravelling their membership of the EU (AND the euro, howsoever fraught and difficult THAT may be).
Grayling was born and raised in Northern Rhodesia so he is not an Englishman, maybe that explains his attitude.
Yes, the EU regularly publishes its own surveys (“eurobarometer”) and the last one published showed more citizens distrusted rather than trusted the EU in 10 member states. And that was before the vaccine issues.
Why did more Scots want to remain? Money – pure and simple. I realised this when I saw a massive sports facility built in the middle of nowhere in Scotland with EU money. The well funded Remain campaign broke every democratic rule and trashed its own country. The vested interests of superfluous hordes of politicians, bureaucrats, lawyers, big business and lobbyists were brought out into the open. The crumbs thrown back here from the EU to fund some projects fooled many into thinking they were better off staying in the EU. There was no proper scrutiny of the corruption, duplicity and criminality of the EU but we leavers instinctively knew we were on the shitty end of the stick. As we travelled Europe, we saw renewal and wealth denied to our regions and one report found 6 of 10 of N Europe’s most deprived areas are in the U.K. Most of them in England. We are tolerant but the EU stretched that too far. Why did VW pay the US £11.5 billion for emissions but none here? Why have German companies got away with Thalidomide? Where has our manufacturing gone, our fish?. Why are we buying energy from France? Books are general, this is my individual history or a small part of it.
“This might surprise the former colonial trading powers such as the French, Dutch and Portuguese” – none of them have anything approaching a body that our Commonwealth represents: that, I think, is the point Tombs is making. The Belgians couldn’t get out of the Congo fast enough; the same with the French in Algeria and Vietnam.
It sounds as though Esler should work for the Express: practically every online article there is a collection of random tweets!
Random, but sometimes relevant…. if you are lucky. They might even occasionally use the right words to describe what they are talking about.
The Belgians also didn’t get INTO the Congo fast enough to prevent their own King’s genocide of the Congolese.
Exposed off course by Sir Roger Casement and his Kodak camera.
Sadly, we had to hang him some years later.
Imperialists departed reluctantly, very often after defeats.
Anyone who has been in an American run company knows that the further away you are from the decision making- the worse that decision making is for you personally. It’s the same with the UK, when decision making on our behalves is done by the London metropolitan elites, we know that the ramifications for the those on Tyneside, the Clyde, the valleys etc.… is not really thought through. Out of sight – out of mind…an attitude personified by the arrogant Cameron/Osborne.
When that decision making is made by an elite in another country who always seem to want to stick one over on the British- for whatever reason, envy? – We know that it won’t end well. We have seen with the vaccine debacle what nasty little vindictive people are running the EU. Run the Brexit vote today, the result would be a completely different story…
As others have said, apparently voting not to be in an EU super state makes you a racist, an argument which makes no rational sense whatsoever. What’s racist about not wanting to be in a political grouping? Intellectual laziness bordering on foolishness…
Macron has Le Pen on his heels, Poland and Hungary are cage rattling, the Swedes are now realising what’s going wrong. Plenty of Dutch have always had their doubts, as well as the Danes…
Then there’s the slight issue of who is covering the debt for the EU/ECB
The EU is run by line managers, not project managers. Line managers want to keep the line running, gradually and very slowly evolving. No surprises for anyone, just standard issue handle turners – just the job for career politicians. This sort-of works most of the time. But when the sewage hits the wind tunnel, you need people fast on their feet, maybe unpopular but effective decisions made quickly. The world is going to change even faster than at any time in our history. The EU are yesterday’s people.
Very true – but you are missing a crucial point. Like it or not, Britain will have to submit to lots of decisions taken in Brussels, Washington, Beijing, …What gives you most influence – being part of the EU, or of an American multnational – or being a small competitor?
Manufacturing needs Ramping up,Why should we send ‘Vaccine ‘Materials to Belgium ,when we can make it here?…..Edward heath,arch Europhile said ‘manufacturing is for lame ducks” aka shipbuilding,cars Industry etc..
No disagreement there. If you can make an economic policy that lets you compete with South Korea on shipbuilding, the US on computing, China on electronics etc. you should absolutely do so. But would it not be better to do the policy shift first, and then get our of the EU later when (if) it proves that they are holding you back? One would have to say that you did not manage back in the fifties and sixties (when you had a better starting position) and that a number of other countries have tried without much success.
[1] ‘Getting out of the EU later’ would be off the cards. By that time (2025 at the latest very likely) everything will be decided by ‘majority’ vote by the heads of government, or even simply by the Commission. Click – the prison door is locked.
[2] Over the period 1950-2000 the UK did rather better, all told, economically, than the EEC/EC/EU states. The reasons why the British economy looked particularly parlous in the 1960s and ’70s were (i) no goernment had ever grasped the nettle of the abuse of Trade Union power by the Trade Union barons, who were (too many of them) in office simply for the joy of bullying everyone (especially their members), and lording it over the country with industrial blackmail.
They were negative, not forward-looking: saboteurs more often than men seeking a fine future for their industries.
Mrs Thatcher tamed them, and that piece of life-saving discipline has yet to be undertaken in dysfunctional economies like those of France, Greece, Italy….
(ii) Our population’s move out of the countryside and rural employments occurred in the 19th century. Most European states did this transfer only after 1950.
So they had a windfall surge of economic activity at a time when we did not.
This was a one-off event, not the shape of things to come.
See Professor Alan Sked, Uk had a 7.4% rise in GDP1973- even when under shadow of miners’ Strike Heath took us in Common market illegally in January 1973, with NO referendum.. Some tories like powell ,Bell ,martenn protested as did Benn,heffer, Shore,Castle Labour..
No …Most PMs have Not cared about Cheap Imported Labour from EU,or Africa Tory,Lib-dem position or Where things are Manufactured labour,or Green position
Negotiators for the EU will carry more weight than negotiators for the UK alone. But if those negotiators are arguing for objectives that are not in the interests of the UK or its people, that doesn’t benefit us.
UK exceptionalism (island nation, common law, economy based on services, …) means that this pertains more often than not. It’s in our interest to have a seat at the table (which the UK would certainly have, in the way that a Denmark or Czechia might not) and argue for our own position.
You are to the EU as Denmark is to you. How certain are you of that seat?
We had that predicament in the second half of the 16th century. France or Spain (with her empire) could apparently have gobbled us up.
Admittedly we had a political genius for national leader in England at that period – Elizabeth I – and today we have a parliament of corrupt self-serving dunces.
Nevertheless if I were a betting man I would not count out the genius of the English people to throw up a scenario that dodges Brussels, Washington or Beijing rule.
After all, in the early part of this new century it seemed as if we were going to be concreted into the ever-developing EU for keeps; just like victims of the mafia being drowned in a lake or river.
Instead UKIP grew and bit the ankles off Tory Party support. Frantically the then PM at last gave us the referendum he had ducked and writhed and lied to avoid.
When the Political Class staged their coup d’etat with Treason May, as PM, pretending to offer us Brexit but actually serfdom satrapy in perpetuo to the EU, the Brexit Party came along and gave the Tories their worst share of the national vote in any election since 1678, when they were founded. (Labour hardly did better, with their worst result since 1910, not long after THEY were founded.) Treason got the axe, not Brexit.
When the Credit Crunch produced millions of job losses, first 3 million and eventually 5 million Britons reacted by setting up their own one- and two-person businesses, and made a success of them.
Even after all these decades of travelling, culturally, downhill at speed, there is still life in the old British dog yet!
Within the EU corridors, British diplomats have long had a good reputation – well-prepared, pragmatic, savvy people, bringing home the bacon. One small-country bureaucrat I know will sorely miss the clever useful people from DEFRA. That is all to win back, now. I can only wish you luck, but you may yet come to say that “all your pomp of yesterday is one with Niniveh and Tyre”.
The corridors that count these days are in Geneva, where many of the UN agencies that set global standards are based.
Being a small independent speedboat is always better
When countries or their economies interact, they have to agree on terms – and the stronger party will be able to set most of the terms. Jersey or Denmark can be smaller and faster than the UK, but they need to adapt to their stronger partners if they want to play. Britain seems to consider itself so powerful and important that they can get other countries to deal with Britain on British terms. The EU, US, China and India might disagree, though.
And there you have it, in a nutshell.
“Stephens makes no visible effort to understand the reasons the Brexiteers wanted to leave, or why 17.4 million voters backed them.”
There is a talk, available on Youtube, in which Niall Ferguson explains why voting Brexit is a bad idea. His arguments are presented in a manner that is cool, calm and persuasive. I was unmoved however, because he was answering questions that I had not asked. To his credit, he later produced a follow up talk in which (Without prompting by me!) he accepts that he had made that fundamental mistake.
Perhaps Stephens can take time off to write a follow up book, in which he explains why so many of us were unimpressed with his first.
Ah, Gavin Esler, he has a talent for storytelling to support a position. Countless times I’ve heard him say how he grew up in a council estate in Clydebank, almost the lad from the wrong side of the tracks made good. However, it appears the period of “growing up” was limited to several months as an infant, early in his childhood his business owner father moved the family to a leafy suburb of Edinburgh. Almost all of his school education was in a highly selective private school. From private school, to university, to BBC, reads like the norm for the liberal media elite, hardly the path of a kid growing up in a council estate in West Central Scotland.
it’s more than a little disappointing to see a leading political journalist show so little interest in the fundamentals of the biggest political event of his lifetime.
This seems to be a growing trend among political journalists, who seem far more political than journalist. These people fancy themselves as part of the elected club that they are supposed to cover, not as the club’s watchdogs.
Yes, as I mentioned in a previous post, they have become courtiers.
In the seventies I voted to join the EU.
On the 80’s and 90’s having experienced BBC coverage of EU debates with such intellectual giants as those which populated the EU Parliament I came to the conclusion it was there to rubber stamp the decisions of the commission and having seen its Common Fishing Policy which at best was state sanctioned resource mismanagement on a massive scale.
I worked on a number of Multi National Engineering Programes which effectively were ways for UK industry to loose its Manufacturing Base to Europe at the behest of foolish UK Politicians who saw no value in the UK retaining IPR and wished to gift it in exchange for Political kudos in the Offices of Brussels.
Brexit is what happens when people get up and vote.
Usually, the ‘educated’ political classes discuss what they think is best and then try to sell the idea to the ‘educated’ non-political classes. If everybody agrees then there will not be a problem because the plebs won’t vote. It all goes wrong when the plebs vote.
In the coming elections in Wales and Scotland, the plebs won’t vote. So the politicians (whichever) will win again.
This is the exact reason I turned against the EU. Democracy is problematic to them.
Who cares to read these books anyway, we’re out and that’s all that matters? Onwards and upwards .
I don’t suppose anyone outside of their own families and a few sympathetic media types will buy or read them. I won’t even read them when they’re remaindered. One constantly wonders why publishers publish so many books that nobody wants to read. The irony is that all these loss making books are only made possible by the massive success of books by people like Jordan Peterson and Jeremy Clarkson, two people that people like would haughtily disdain.
It is good of people like James to read and review them so we don’t have to waste any of our time and money on them.
I think that there are things I’d very much like to know about the sorry events which occurred after 23/06/16, but it may take many more years before a worthwhile book comes, and meanwhile, history keeps on happening..
“… the amateurism and arrogance of David Cameron is nicely captured …”. For all his faults, Cameron is the only leader who had the courage to hold a referendum on an issue that was blatantly important to the people and to the sovereignty of the UK. If only the weak leaders in the EU could have the same courage (yes I mean courage).
Some EU countries held referenda on some of the treaties. When they returned the “wrong” answer they were ignored and eventually the idea of asking the people was seen as the wrong thing to do in the first place.
Cameron only promised a referendum because it was the only way to hold his party together AND he thought he would win it. Whilst he was right to resign when he lost, the way he did it and then engineered a remainer in as his replacement showed the true character of the despicable man.
True I do believe he thought Remain was a shoe-in and therefore not politically threatening to him – but even so, the fact a referendum was called was a step many others, including Major and Blair/Brown, refused to countenance at all, so for that alone he is a hero.
Not a hero but a self interested, arrogant coward who knew he would not last long in charge of his own government if he did not do something to abdicate taking personal responsibility for resolving our problems with the EU.
The Eurocrats saw him as a very silly boy who should have seen from all the other referenda held by other member states that they don’t solve anything – you are still trapped and powerless, whichever way it goes. Hence despite his grovelling and pleading to the Frau, he got nothing but the proof the eurosceptics needed that even a big net contributor outside of the Franco-German nexus has no real influence. The hero was Boris with his get it done and not blinking on no deal. It is a shame the deal was so badly put together by May or it might have been better than no deal. If only we had a reincarnation of Maggie – she would have handbagged them into submission.
Surely Cameron only promised the Referendum to see off Farage and only kept his promise because he became absolutely certain he would win it – When he realised he might lose he launched Project Fear which backfired spectacularly, Obama’s back of the ‘queue’ being the loudest individual backfire – But Project Fear gave the 100% remain establishment excellent experience to truly terrify the nation into Lockdown and Masks and virtually any equally pointless humiliation.
What many people fail to see is that the UK, though forever characterised as the only pebble in the shoe of the European Project’s otherwise seamless journey to the sunlit uplands of European integration, was always the convenient fall guy for other like-minded circumspect member states.
The truth is it was much easier for some members to openly parade their ‘pro-European’ credentials whilst muttering under their own breaths their deep reservations about it with the far larger UK in it.
With it now gone, it’s a different story.
The Nordic countries, particularly Sweden, and others like the Netherlands didn’t need to look like the big party poopers back then but, as the recent rancorous covid bailout discussions proved, it’s put up or shut time for these somewhat more reticent, Eurosceptic wallflowers as the UK’s departure seems to have reinvigorated the Project’s visionaries.
All of these people, however, appear to support Scots or Irish nationalism to the hilt.
They want to trap an ‘independent’ Scotland and Ireland in their imperial web.
The nationalists for their part are struggling with might and main to become a county borough of the new big bad incompetent European Empire.
This self-evident reflection never seems to occur to them.
And me!
Brexit seems to have been really painful to true believers in “progress” and “the end of history”. Just wait until they see what comes next!
I cannot quite decide whether you are looking forward to what comes next, or not.
I’m very much not but I accept that the tectonic-like forces of geopolitics are well beyond my control. I hope that Britain may have positioned itself well enough to weather coming storms adequately. It remains to be seen. At the same time I plan to improve my vegetable growing skills.
To be on the safe side, you might want to learn Italian as well.
Meanwhile the Chinese are busy buying up Greek and Italian debt under the noses of the EU. They have bought the big ports in Greece and now have a foothold.
At least the Chinese leadership is broadly competent, which is far more than can be said for the EU’s leadership.
If they hadn’t forced Greece into penury, the Chinese wouldn’t have got a look in.