iProov’s founder and CEO Andrew Bud tells me their system involves the creation of a certificate to demonstrate that you have been vaccinated. They have developed a number of options, some of which will need the involvement of the Department of Health.
Currently, vaccination records are held by the National Immunisation Management System, which is run by Public Health England, Scotland and Wales independently of the NHS, and within GP surgery patient records. The iProov/Mvine system proposes storing these vaccination records using cloud technology, so they are neither held on your phone nor within existing NHS record systems.
“One of the defining features of the Mvine/iProov system is that it is designed for privacy,” says Bud. “It doesn’t require a name or address or date of birth or National Insurance number or any other irrelevant data. Our system is designed to associate the existence of a valid vaccine certificate with a face.”
Other companies that have received grants include: EAS Technologies (£137,877), which is focusing on vaccine verification for sporting events; the Hub Company (£49,448), which features PayPal and IBM among its clients; Enduring Net (£49,678), which says it usually focuses on technology “in humanitarian work”; and Verifiable Credentials (£89,000), which is planning to create “Covid-19 certificates” that cannot be forged.
But they are not only runners in this race. In fact, the UK Government is undertaking a three-month review of “vaccine passport” technology and may even consider repurposing the pre-existing NHS app — separate to its track and trace app — which gives people access to their medical records.
However, according to Phil Booth, co-ordinator of medConfidential, a campaign group promoting best practice in safeguarding the confidentiality of medical records, this would likely be unpopular among NHS staff.
“It would essentially turn the NHS into a clearing house for information requested by the private sector,” he says. “This would find great resistance among those responsible for NHS Login [the online portal that patients can use to access a host of services and see their GP medical records]. Being forced to be a certification authority in the midst of all their other pandemic work would be a massive drain on resources and, frankly, a distraction.”
Moreover, Booth says, it is unclear what the purpose of all this technology would be: “It would be impossible for the government to partner up with private companies to produce vaccine passports until everybody had had the offer of a vaccine — otherwise requiring a passport to get through everyday life would be discriminatory.
“But the vaccine take up is so great — about 90 per cent in the higher age groups — that by the time everybody has been offered one, we will probably have reached herd immunity. So, what’s the point of having a passport that will get you into a pub in those circumstances?”
Still, that hasn’t deterred countries across the world from investing in this technology. Israel was one of the first, followed by Greece, Malta, Portugal, Israel, Estonia, Sweden and Norway. None of these countries has said that foreign internationals without proof of vaccination would be refused entry, but instead would be subject to other — more laborious and time-consuming — testing or quarantine regimes.
Domestically, Israel is the only country to have vaccinated enough people to have a system that is already functioning. About half of its 9.3 million citizens have received the two jabs required to qualify for a “green pass” that they can display using a Health Ministry app on their phones — people with such passes are already being granted access to restaurants, shops and theatres.
Airlines, too, are getting in on the act, courtesy of the pre-existing International Air Transport Association (IATA) Travel Pass app. This provides information to travellers on the Covid requirements of the country they are travelling to, tells them where they can get tested if required, enables labs to send results directly to passengers, and, crucially, provides for the creation of a digital vaccination record once governments make them available.
Among those already trialling aspects of it are Singapore Airlines, Etihad, RwandAir, Emirates, Qatar Airways, and Air New Zealand. Moreover, on top of all these initiatives is a whole host of private sector travel and vaccination record schemes, among them IBM’s Digital Health Pass, Daon’s Verifly (currently being trialled by BA and American Airlines) and Microsoft’s Vaccination Credential Initiative.
But with the creation of so many disparate apps and vaccination confirmation systems, surely we will need some kind of international co-ordination for them to be practicable. And there is currently only one body that has an internationally-recognised proof-of-vaccination scheme — the World Health Organisation’s Yellow Card. Indeed, it increasingly seems that the WHO will be called upon to provide a solution to all this apparent chaos.
Already it has teamed up with Estonia — arguably the country with the world’s most efficient joined-up governmental IT architecture — to come up with a system that would enable national “vaccine passport” solutions to work in an international setting.
At the forefront of this partnership is Marten Kaevats, National Digital Adviser to the Estonian government and a member of the WHO’s Digital Health Technical Advisory Group. He says no new technology would be needed for an international system to work. Instead, building up trust among nations, so that they can rely on the information provided by others, would be paramount.
“We currently see most of the different governments deploying various sorts of their own technologies,” he tells me. “In order for these technologies to be able to co-operate with each other, we need to agree upon common global standards and principles.”
The WHO has set up a Smart Vaccination Certificate Working Group in order to achieve this. But, says Kaveats, “the WHO doesn’t currently have a mandate to become the global anchor of trust for cross-border health data services. It could be given that at the end of May when the World Health Assembly [the decision-making body of the WHO] next convenes.”
With the threat of other Coronavirus variants — or entirely new viruses and pandemics — continuing to loom over us, it certainly seems only a matter before an international solution such as the WHO’s is devised. In the meantime, the race for a vaccine may be over. But the race to create vaccine passports has only just begun.
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SubscribeThe intrusions on people’s autonomy that are being imposed on the back of this virus are appalling…
Testing and quarantining of healthy people, surveillance, masking/muzzling, vaccination being pressed upon everyone for this virus which isn’t a threat to most people, and now vaccine passports which are an indicator that vaccination will be compulsory to participate in society.
These intrusions, based upon what is looking more and more like a very questionable ’emergency’, are unprecedented, with no public consultation, no accountability.
Liberal democracy is being destroyed, it’s shocking what ‘our’ governments are doing to us…apparently they’re now working on behalf of the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.
Prince Charles is involved with the World Economic Forum – with him being heir to the throne, including the Commonwealth, what does this mean constitutionally?
Also, Prince Charles, Prince William and the Queen are actively promoting coronavirus vaccination…do they have any conflicts of interest to declare? Does the Royal Family have a duty to be transparent about their investments, given their privileged position and the connections it provides?
This whole situation is dystopian and will get a lot worse if people don’t wake up and start fighting back now. I never thought I would see something like this in my lifetime. The erosion of support for liberal democracy (especially the ‘liberal’ part) was showing up in some of the survey research on this topic in recent years, but I’m surprised at the extent of the current acceptance of (and support for) authoritarian policies in long-established democracies. Moral superiority in the West should be questioned as these countries increasingly follow the Chinese Communist example.
I’m not sure about the World Economic Forum and others who are credited with pulling the strings, however. Correlation is not causation. I see very little in the way of planning; long-held pandemic plans were abandoned and knee-jerk reactions have been the rule in most countries. While some (like Big Pharma) are clearly taking advantage of the opportunities arising from this mess, I don’t think these businesses or groups have acted in a concerted way to bring this situation about. Politicians, in my experience, are not all that bright and often lack planning and organisational skills, though they do know how to manipulate the public. Many of the groups and interests who are blamed for causing this situation are hyper-globalist, but the outcomes we are seeing are highly destructive to globalism. I also expect a major populist backlash in the near future in many countries, which will reduce globalism even further.
Ultimately, it was a hysterical public that brought us into this disaster, with politicians, not wanting to be blamed for killing granny, following the herd. It will be the people who lead us out of this and in order to do that, they need to figure out what has actually happened and then stand up against this emerging dystopia. There are signs that this is starting to happen in the UK and elsewhere, with lockdown fatigue setting in, people going about their business more and more, and many wondering why the ‘magic vaccines’ are not providing freedom, so I’m trying to be optimistic.
Hmmm… I’m not so sure about it not being planned Thomas… I think this virus has been used to implement plans that have been in the pipeline for some time…
I’m in Australia and this move towards coercive vaccination has been going on for years, with the No Jab, No Pay law imposed in 2016 to coerce parents to have their children vaccinated.
Now of course many people are supportive of children’s vaccination…the problem is, there are so many vaccinations and revaccinations now, and also many conflicts of interest in vaccination policy. This has been occurring with little in the way of critical analysis, it appears we don’t have an effective ‘fourth estate’ to shine a light in this dark corner.
In Australia, the Murdoch media/aka News Corp Australia, campaigned for coercive vaccination with their No Jab, No Play media campaign throughout 2013-2015. What wasn’t disclosed during this media campaign was that News Corp Australia is a corporate partner of the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute which is involved in vaccine research, including now coronavirus vaccine research. This is a huge conflict of interest.
It appears the children’s No Jab, No Pay/No Play framework might be used to impose coercive coronavirus vaccination on Australians.
For more background see my recent email to Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison: No Jab, No Pay/No Play – coercive coronavirus vaccination in Australia – PM Scott Morrison and the Murdoch Media
2015 also saw the Biosecurity Act in Australia, which includes the facility to imprison refusers of vaccination for five years, and/or a $66,600 fine.
See my BMJ rapid response: Five years imprisonment and/or a $66,600 fine for refusing coronavirus vaccination?
So as you can see Thomas, Australia seems to have been setting the framework in place for some time…
I think Australia is much farther down this dark path than other countries, unfortunately. Sorry to hear this and I hope Australians wake up.
I’m not so sure Australia is farther down this dark path, than other countries. If even one country is allowed to do this, others will quickly follow. 🙁
Do you seriously think that all Governemtns of the world sat down together and agreed to plan a pandemic, and a charade of China playing the role of the originators, and then agree to total secrecy of all current and past members of all Governments and all future members .
Do you seriously think that social distancing, furlough, PCR testing, QR codes, mask mandates, fast-tracked vaccines, and vaccine passports just popped up out of nowhere?
As indicated, including with developments in Australia, it seems this has been planned for a while, and they’ve used this opportunistic virus, of still blurry origins, as the Trojan horse to implement these controls…in my opinion.
Although they’re probably surprised how easily they’ve been able to get away it: Neil Ferguson interview: China changed what was possible.
This bizarre speech by Boris Johnson at the UN Assembly in 2019 is interesting to review now in light of the response to the coronavirus.
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
Newsweek… That conspiracy theory rag. LOL
Yes Dennis, it’s mind-boggling what the US government/National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) has been up to, funding manipulation of viruses in the lab, see for example:
EXCLUSIVE: Controversial experiments that could make bird flu more risky poised to resume. Science, 8 Feb 2019
With all due respect, that’s called a straw man, built upon the assumption that government officials are the organ-grinders rather than the monkeys. When billionaires and industry lobbyists mingle with political leaders in places like Davos, who do you think asks who for money?
Some intriguing information in this recent video Thomas…
Breaking news!!! 27/02/2021/
WHO insiders blow the whistle total immunity of BIll Gates through GAVI – world vaccine alliance.
Lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and lawyer Dr. Justus P. Hoffmann interviewing Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger and Dr.Silvia Behrendt on total immunity of Bill Gates through GAVI – world vaccine alliance/
A cut from Corona investigative committee Nr. 41
And exactly who and what is Coronavirus investigative committee?
It is the group Dr Reiner Fuellmich put together to challenge and bring lawsuits against the coronavirus fascism. Not too hard to find.
That is incredible information and well evidenced regarding Gates. I wonder why the general media do not pick up on this?
what these groups and interests may lack in planning skill, they make up for with cunning and the ability to take advantage of a situation that can be framed as a crisis.
I believe this has all been ‘planned’, starting with the World Economic Forum, Bill Gates, and most leaders of our countries. I think mass vaccination attached to some digital system has always been their end game. The more I read and listen to those censored from mainstream media, the more I see it. This must be stopped before we are all living in a bubble, one they put us into.
Yes I agree. I have been involved in researching health for my own purposes and somewhat professionally for many years and I could see what was coming. I have long distrusted the power that people like Bill Gates and BigPharma hold and I believe these people have no empathy for others at all. You only have to look and see the numbers of institutions that receive funding along with Bill Gates’s increasing ownership of American agricultural land to know that all is not right. I focus on him because more seems seems to be openly available but I don’t believe he is the only one nor that there aren’t others pulling his strings.
I’m not sure about the World Economic Forum and others who are credited with pulling the strings, however. Correlation is not causation. I see very little in the way of planning
They literally war gamed it all out.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html
Seems a bit odd to complain about masks when you’re wearing your tinfoil hat all the time.
You think these gratuitous insults add to the conversation?
You know you are winning the argument when they are reduced to personal insults.
Or they are just laughing?
Give it a couple of years and I wonder who’ll be laughing then? Those of us who knew what was coming and have mentally prepared ourselves or the rest who somehow think that life with continual vaccinations, health passports and restrictions on their freedoms will just be hunky dory! Time will tell but I would bet that many might wish they’d been a bit more critical before.
I have seen other posts from Paul and they all seem to go this way of insult when he reads something he doesn’t like.
Doesn’t like? Or thinks is just plain conspiracy nonsense
Same difference, but the point is he appears unwilling to show curiosity and engage in good faith in the discussion, perhaps being open to learning something, prefering instead to assume he is right and the other is wrong and that’s an end of it. He is entitled, as we all our, to his opinion, but sneering at others is actually pretty childish and so easy to do. So how about growing up a little and listening for the signal amongst what he interprets as noise? If people have genuine worries and are searching to understand what is going on, putting them down is just going to make it much worse. It will only push people further down rabbit holes looking for what makes sense to them. And don’t forget we are all living within narratives that help us make sense of the world. Whether it is a mainstream narrative, which makes it easier for you, or not. Being in the majority in no way implies you therefore have a monopoly on the truth.
Just give him the 3rd dose and see what happens to him on winter. Horrible person he is
+1.
Excellent ad hominem example. This is how it’s done, people. No facts, no evidence, no rebuttal. Just call someone who posts a link to a World Health Organization video a conspiracy theorist. Which, by extension, means the WHO is also peddling conspiracy theories.
It’s not a WHO video! This is how conspiracy theories grow!
Corruption = conspiracy- Wake up before it’s too late for you
“Tin foil hat” typical response for someone whose head is in the sand. You do realise that Klaus Scwab of the WEF published book called Covid 19 and The Great Reset? Here’s a link to Amazon where you can buy a copy:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great-Reset-Klaus-Schwab/dp/2940631123
You do know that the WEF has videos about the Great Reset? Here’s alink :
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset
Too right. The idea that al governments have agreed in secret to organise a pandemic is just laughable
Nobody said that. Governments did agree to follow WHO guidelines during a declared pandemic. Whether it was really a pandemic or not. That doesn’t mean the actions taken are correct and just and don’t deserve pushback.
Ahh the old “tinfoil hat” insult — incredibly boring and just plain lazy now
Every damm politician is promoting the vaccines, every town council, every local councillor, every mayor. I suppose you demand to know if everyone promoting the vaccines have a conflict of interest.
exactly how are Governments working on ‘behalf’ of the WEF.
“I suppose you demand to know if everyone promoting the vaccines have a conflict of interest.”
Yes
Totally unrealistic and bizarre. Presumably you will want to know if their company or private pensions schemes have investments in vaccine manufacturers ( who also manufacture a lot of other medicines and so any one who has any investment in any pharmaceutical company , in your mind, has a conflict of interest ) .
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineFlu/swine-flu-pandemic-world-health-organization-scientists-linked/story?id=10829940
Why? It isn’t like this is the first time.
The propaganda has been very powerful regarding vaccines. They are the only way left for government to claim any victory. They have really screwed up this country and haven’t fared any better than Sweden or Florida. There was plenty of evidence the NPI’s weren’t working but they ploughed along regardless. So I am left to conclude it’s either conspiracy or c**k up on a scale never seen before. The cupboard is now so bare I don’t think they can afford a great reset.
“… quarantining of healthy people”.
Er, the concept of quarantine has always involved restricting the movement of (apparently) healthy people. You don’t quarantine obviously unhealthy people, you treat them.
I’m questioning quarantining healthy people for this virus, SARS-CoV-2.
Are we going to go on like this forever?
Or until everyone is made to submit to the coronavirus vaccine products – and then what?
I agree with your comments. One thing that surprises me about Prince Charles and the Queen is that they, the former in particular, has always promoted natural health, homeopathy, organic food etc. I’m really not sure how this sudden devotion to vaccinations fits in with their previous beliefs. I’m not saying that one precludes the other but in the case of this virus for which we know treatments exist (even although knowledge about them has been suppressed) and that we now know is no more deadly than a bad flu, I find their sudden dedication to allopathic vaccines a little strange!
Yes, Prince Charles is patron of the Faculty of Homeopathy.
According to the BBC, the Queen (94) and Prince Philip (99) had Covid-19 vaccines on 9 January 2021. What do you think about people of their age being vaccinated?
The BBC reports Prince Philip went into hospital on 16 February 2021. Even if this is for pre-existing conditions, this hospital admission should still be reported as an adverse event after vaccination, particularly after a fast-tracked experimental vaccination. I wonder if it has been reported?
‘In fact, a succession of ministers initially said vaccine passports were not being considered by the government.’
Well anybody who believed those ministers was indescribably stupid. One should never believe anything that any politician says That aside, these passport are an absolute evil.
Bill Gates said we were going to have to have them. Even if the media “fact checkers” says he didn’t say that. Gotta control the message. ID2020 a bit behind schedule!
“Passports” is a really bad piece of terminology to use, as it implies a binary capability of being able to go to a particular country.
In reality “Records” mean something far less sinister, but which may still limit who is prepared to fly you there.
Better push back on this survey they don’t want us to see https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework
Boris quoted ‘Its not what we doin this country’ lie after lie after lie.
It’s a recipe for creating a 2nd class citizenship and nobody seems to care, when the vaccine rollout has completed then those left unvaccinated will be the underclass, the whole thing is immoral.
We are moving back into a feudal society. The intent is to control and ration resources to the serfs. The technocrats will be generous with the meal worms though. Bill Gates promises they have plenty of ways to make them more palatable. To be clear this has nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccine is just to destroy the small business economy and install the serf tracking system. You will be better off being untrackable(throw out your cell phone). You’ll struggle to find resources but be outside their control. Good luck!
Better push back via this survey they don’t want us to see https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework
Re: “the need to prove that you’ve been immunised”.
A ‘vaccine’ passport won’t provide proof of ‘immunisation’.
There’s a difference between ‘vaccination’ and ‘immunisation’, and people need to start thinking about this and the implications…
OK, so what’s the difference? Because I’ve always understood that getting vaccinated meant you could neither get sick from a certain virus nor pass it on to others.
I’m naturally immune to chicken pox, having had it as a child, which means I can be around someone with the illness with no risk of getting infected by them and passing the virus on to a non-immune person.
If this so-called COVID “vaccine” doesn’t work in the same way, then they can kiss my a**.
Vaccination is when you get the injection, immunisation is when you mount an immune response following vaccination.
The basic idea is you’re vaccinated, and then immune.
But it’s complicated… What is immunity?
Immunisation after vaccination is seldom verified.
A point, but a pedantic point. In the main for >99% of people immunisation follows vaccination. The level etc can be determined by research in the future, but from Israel’s numbers vaccination (with Pfizer) protects >98% of people with 2 vaccinations
Do you think David?
I don’t claim to be an ‘expert in vaccination and immunisation’…who is?
But I’m intrigued by all the repeat vaccinations on vaccination schedules. See for example the NHS schedule.
Click on the hyperlinks in the schedule for more info on the multi-component shots.
Interesting that children get five doses of polio vaccine throughout childhood. And four doses of pertussis/whooping cough vaccine. Not to mention pregnant women are pressed to have pertussis containing vaccines.
In Australia children get six doses of pertussis vaccine throughout childhood.
That’s some dodgy ‘immunity’ being provided by those vaccines.
Have a close look at the schedule David – have you had all these vaccinations and revaccinations?
And now the entire world population is being set up for annual, or possibly even more frequent, coronavirus vaccination throughout life…for a virus that isn’t a threat to most people…
How on earth is this happening?!?!?! It’s mind-boggling…
Time for some retrospective analysis of this debacle.
What’s your point? Those vaccinations have saved a lot of children from Polio etc ( my aunt missed out on that and suffered from the effects of Polio for her life).
many vaccinations require boosters, talking of which, doing a fair amount of work involving digging etc, I will soon need a Tetanus booster
All vaccines are not equal. Different types of viruses, different risks iro both the diseases and the vaccines themselves.
My point is that children are having a lot of vaccine products and revaccinations.
My point is that vaccination policy is steeped in conflicts of interest, and this needs to be exposed and investigated.
Plenty of information available online to allow you to educate yourself regarding vaccines and immunity.
The reason repeated doses of polio and pertussis vaccines are given is because infant’s immune systems are not firing on all 6 cylinders until they are at least 2 years old. This applies to both their humoral and cellular immune responses.
The mothers are offered pertussis vaccination because their antibodies will then cross the placental barrier and protect the infant in the first 3 months, when their child is most vulnerable.
As for Sars Cov 2 you are correct – most people don’t get sick with it but when you do, you are very sick – consuming health care resources at a rapacious rate. This is an endothelial, thrombotic, multi organ disease, not just a respiratory infection.
My Father was a general medical practitioner for 50 years. I can just about remember him being called out in the night to deal with diptheria, whooping cough and polio cases. You wouldn’t want to wish any of these diseases on any child or any family. People forget.
Thank you Elaine, I’m investigating some vaccine products.
So are you willing to share how many doses of children’s vaccines you’ve had, i.e. including revaccinations?
How many doses of: diphtheria, hepatitis B, Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b), polio, tetanus, pertussis, rotavirus, pneumococcal (PCV), MenB, Hib/MenC, measles, mumps, rubella, flu vaccine, HPV, MenACWY?
60 – 70 years ago so I don’t remember what I had as a child – whatever the usual regimen was in the 50’s + course of polio vaccinations which we had to acquire via a friend in the USA at the time + TB (done at school) + all the recommended shots required before working in a UK hospital (mandated) including Hep B with a subsequent booster + a whole series before I went travelling with my husband 5 years ago – tetanus, japanese encephalitis, rabies, DTP booster, Hep A, typhoid – all these detailed in our “Travel Vaccination Record” booklets which we carry with us and to which our Covid vaccination details will be added to in due course.
The vaccine manufacturers have already stated :
So effective as a therapy for the 0.01% of the population who would have got severe symptoms…..hmmmm….
“Everyone agreed that we need a digital vaccination certificate,” Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, said after a virtual summit.
Who is ‘everyone’ and what sort of medical certificate will be required for the next great scare? We’re in a political atmosphere where people insist that even with a vax, people should still wear masks and distance from one another, so I fully anticipate a further moving of the goalposts as “everyone” looks to milk this pandemic for full effect.
I wonder where people like me fit in, who need to travel a lot but have been advised by my doctor not to take the vaccine due to severe allergic reactions?
I wonder where people like me, who refuse to even use smartphones, let alone consider giving anyone other than their doctor instant access to all their medical records – fit in.
Exactly. I don’t have a smartphone and I don’t want one. Hopefully it will be possible to have a printed passport, and seems to be the case in Israel.
As for medical records, I don’t think I even have any, not having seen an NHS doctor since the 1970s or a dentist since 1991.
No, off course neither you nor Fraser Bailey below will “fit in”, as you charmingly call it.
You will become the new
‘Untermenschen’, and be treated accordingly.
This might amuse you Kathy, (even if it is on the conflicted Murdoch media): Liars in labcoats…with Fauci and masks, and Francis Collins and gain of function… “Time to say no to the pseudoscience masquerading as seriousness”: https://www.facebook.com/IngrahamRadio/videos/806950049858251/
Sorry, anyone quoting Ingraham definitely does belong on a private island. This sort of paranoia is sort of sad really. No Trump did not win the election, and no Governments are not nearly organised enough to carry out a “conspiracy” as they have enough trouble even governing competently, as is shown by this current Tory government!
I feel as if I have stumbled into a group of conspiracy theorists! It’s all been planned, it’s all to keep us in our place and control,us blah, blah . I don’t know whether to laugh or cry
Quoting Laura Ingraham: “Well, for much of the past year, the medical media cartel has been guilty of regular, deliberate exercises in doublethink. And at almost every turn, Anthony Fauci was a primary offender, including his mask double talk…It’s clear…he’s just playing games with everyone. It doesn’t matter if you’ve gotten the vaccine, or if you’ve already had the virus and recovered, if you’re five or fifteen, or fifty years old. Unless Fauci is sidelined, your mask will be your BFF for a very, very long time…”
Laura Ingraham. A very right wing media person in the USA. Why on Earth should anyone other than Trump loyalists take one tiny bit of notice what she says and thinks . Look into any corner of the more right leaning movement in the States and you can find all sorts of totally empty rants aimed at anyone who isn’t fully aligned with Trump
Oh yes. Ingraham – the one who promotes Hydroxychloroquine as the wonder drug for preventing Covid. Talk about pseudoscience !!
There are many doctors that promote hydroxychloroquine within the first 5 days of being sick with this virus and many others promote a low dosage as a way to prevent this virus.
Longs since shown to have no effect I.e it’s total pseudo science
Here’s a perspective: COVID-19: A realistic approach to community management. Robert Clancy. Quadrant 17 January 2021.
On a private island?
This all sounds so dystopian to me and I really cannot believe politicians and others are seriously considering this. Have they really thought this through and do they know what they are proposing?
I wonder where the problem is? Those who want to get vaccianted can do so and protect themselves from getting seriously ill. Let all the others who do not want to get vaccinated or consider the risk of getting vaccinated as more dangerous than falling ill from Covid-19 do so at their/our own risk. And then let life go on as always. End of pandemic…
I would expect such a ‘passport’ would contravene human rights under the Geneva Conventions, particularly because Covid is no threat to the vast majority of people.
If Governments think that most people will go along with this they are deluded.
As is common with fanatical movements, the reaction to Covid makes no sense and neither does the concept of a mandatory participation in a vaccine and genetic experiment.
What is astonishing is how many people are prepared to go along with it. One is reminded of how Communist Russia, 1930’s Germany, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, etc., came into being and committed the horrors they all did. All had good intentions and when the claim of good intentions is married to power and profit agendas, things never end well.
Millions died in two World Wars fighting for the freedoms many are now tossing away in the name of irrational and immature fear. No doubt it has ever been thus.
The Covid-19 vaccine products have been rushed out under ’emergency authorisations’ – what is the definition of this emergency? How does it justify the vaccination of the entire global population, setting them up to be revaccinated, potentially every year or even more frequently, for life, at the cost of their own natural immune response to the virus?
I wonder if all the people currently being vaccinated understand they’re part of a massive vaccine trial?
Did they give their informed consent to be part of this vaccine trial?
The delicious irony of a vaccine passport? For the average 35 to 55-year-old traveller, you have more chance of being killed in a plane crash than by Covid-19.
“Here is my vax passport. Now may I please inspect the aircraft’s maintenance logs?”
And is the pilot sober, drug free and actually had sufficient sleep? Planes do fly themselves these days, but in an emergency a skilled crew is the difference between life and death.
This is the horrible situation people in the UK and around the world are being set up for…to be revaccinated again and again with coronavirus vaccine products which they don’t need.
Most people can deal with the virus themselves, and this may be beneficial to future immunity. But they’re being coerced to trade this for dependence on these still experimental coronavirus vaccine products, i.e. dependence on the vaccine industry, potentially for life.
There is a very big beneficiary here, and that is the vaccine industry and those who invest in it.
And the Health Sinister for the conservative pharma party mentioned yesterday that we only need on jab now… I mean.. how stupid does he think we are.
With Blair involved this will be a rehash of New Labour’s National Identity Database plan. Medical records, tax records, criminal records plus everything else the government has on you. With eventually your bank details and everything else included in there to. All accessable by any jobsworth with clearance… Remember the anti-terror laws used by councils to snoop in people’s bins? With this “passport” we will be entering a full on surveillance state.
I have heard that the black market is already busy with vaccine passports.
Yep, and apparently the Israeli app has already been reverse-engineered, so you can generate your own QR code to pretend you’ve had the jabs and are ‘allowed’ to live (sort of) normally again
‘Building up trust with other nations’ to share wonderful new technical insights. Yeah, that’s really worked well both in the past and lately, hasn’t it? Perhaps the CC*P readers among us can explain to me, a Canadian, just what I’m missing in this article…
A vaccine ‘passport’ to access anything within the UK borders is unnecessary and a licence for business and scammers to print money. Those vaccinated will have protected themselves and others. Those not vaccinated will still be a risk to themselves and others who aren’t vaccinated. This is called personal responsibility. For international travel, surely a link between passport and vaccination record would be possible and all within the remit of government.
I suppose anyone coming to this country from anywhere will have to have a vaccine passport issued by their own government. Therefore, the system relies on the capabilities and corruptibility of every country in the world. If everyone has to have the vaccine once a year, which means two jabs the logistical challenges will be, I think, insurmountable.
I don’t have a problem showing vaccination records to travel abroad, having done this for much of my travel over the last 40 years or so.
It does , however seem a little extreme to do this to go to a restaurant or theatre for example. Personally, I don’t have a smart phone and have never had any desire to have one. I don’t use social media and whilst I spend a fair amount of time online, have never needed to do this when out of the house. My mum doesn’t have one either and probably is beyond learning to use one, but does enjoy restaurants, theatres and museums. Should both of us be permanently excluded from society, despite both of us having been vaccinated (one for me, both for her).
Of groups done so far, uptake is in excess of 90% which, if replicated population wide, would surely render internal passports unnecessary. It would certainly be very hard to justify.
I have travelled the world and lived around the world for 30 years and only ever needed to provide evidence of a vaccination and that was for Yellow Fever in one African country, which, within a few years, dropped it as a condition of entry.
Why over over think this simple problem, just turn your Bible to Revelations 13:16 where the beast requires all, great and small, rich and poor, slave and free, to have the mark put on their right hand or forehead, and none may buy or sell unless they carry the mark of the beast, which is 666.
Just tattoo a tiny, Bill Gates 2020 project, quantum dot marker on every one vaccinated, which was his stated plan, look it up if you wish. The dots are micro, invisible, semi-conducting dots which reflect light, and can be read by a phone with the app. I suspect the dots spell out ^^^ in binary, if you are curious.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
LSD far better, and no addiction and little downside.
For example: Biocompatible near-infrared quantum dots delivered to the skin by microneedle patches record vaccination
Obviously, vaccination is not ipso facto immunization. Otherwise – we wouldn’t need to get 2 shots, would we?
Err-but even with one shot we have quite high immunity (~60-70%)-the second just improves your immunity-not really that difficult is it?
Since the original statements said these vaccines and genetic treatments did not provide immunity, how on earth would anyone know?
And since other experts have said the effects of such genetic manipulation in terms of permanent auto-immune dysfunction, may not be known for many months or years, it may be a reality that the vaccinated are not well enough to travel anywhere. Which would rather destroy the point of it all would it not?
Something that is very pertinent to this conversation is the influence of Bill Gates on international vaccination policy via the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Gavi Alliance, the World Health Organisation etc.
This recent video includes important information to consider:
WHO insiders blow the whistle total immunity of Bill Gates through GAVI – world vaccine alliance.
Lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich and lawyer Dr Justus P Hoffmann interviewing Dr Astrid Stuckelberger and Dr Silvia Behrendt on total immunity of Bill Gates through GAVI – world vaccine alliance
A cut from Corona investigative committee Nr. 41
As before, who and what on Earth is Coronavirus investigative committee ? Some random group,of people with a conspiracy to nurture ?
Here’s a link for you: https://evolvetoecology.org/2021/02/27/dr-reiner-fuellmich-begins-legal-litigation-on-the-covid-19-fraud-the-greatest-crime-against-humanity/
Oh right , a group of lawyers trying to make some money then! The main person behind this is a German lawyer representing various businesses who, I guess want all restrictions ended so they can get back to making money ( and paying their lawyers)
Looks like they’re investigating the WHO…goodness knows an investigation of the Bill Gates dominated WHO is well overdue…
On a slightly different note. We have Brazilian, UK, South African, Indian variants, but calling the original variant Chinese is racist. What am I missing?
Good point
It is difficult to see the point of a vaccine passport when the manufacturers of the vaccines and the genetic treatments have said they do not create immunity but may only reduce severity for those who become sick.
One presumes if someone is sick they will not travel and since the vaccinated offer no immunity to anyone, not even themselves, why demand proof that one has participated in a medical experiment before allowing people to travel?
I am astonished that anyone can think being vaccinated should be a requirement for travel, particularly when these vaccines and genetic treatments are so experimental with potentially disastrous outcomes.
And all in the name of a virus which is no threat to most people on earth. It is all so extreme and irrational it is hardly surprising that growing numbers of people are leaning toward extreme conspiracy theories regarding eugenics and population control.
I don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories because I find humans stupid, ignorant, greedy, self-serving and arrogant enough to create any kind of mess without the slightest plan. But the general insanity demonstrated by Governments around the world in regard to Covid-19 makes one think.
Freddie Sayers says: “I’ll go along with it. I don’t want to be fighting about lockdowns for a day longer. I’ll take my vaccine and sign my papers.”
Peter Hitchens says: “I’ve had the Covid jab – and all it cost me was my freedom…I have been more or less forced to have an immunisation I would not normally have bothered with.”
Wow… Just think about what those men are saying, this is the England you’re living in now, where people are being coerced to have medical interventions…which they don’t really want…
It seems Sayers and Hitchens aren’t making a free and informed decision about the virus and the vaccine, weighing up the risks and benefits. They’re simply capitulating to pressure to have the Covid-19 vaccination.
Again…wow…this situation is really, really bad…
What next?
Re travelling in the time of Covid…here’s the perspective of a recent Canadian traveller to Turkey and Mexico… Chris Sky : Son interview à la sortie de l’aéroport
what if you don t have a smartphone?
What about those people who for medical reasons, such as allergies, are not allowed to be vaccinated?
What about those who, whether vaccinated or not, do not have a smartphone?
I am happy to be vaccinated as soon as I am allowed, I do have a smartphone, and I am happy to have a note added to my actual passport to say that I have been jabbed if it will enable me to travel overseas, but I object to the very idea of having to show an app before I am allowed into a public house.
As is common with fanatical movements, the reaction to Covid makes no sense and neither does the concept of a mandatory participation in a vaccine and genetic experiment.
What is astonishing is how many people are prepared to go along with it. One is reminded of how Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, etc., came into being and committed the horrors they all did. All had good intentions and when the claim of good intentions is married to power and profit agendas, things never end well.
Millions died in two World Wars fighting for the freedoms many are now tossing away in the name of irrational and immature fear. No doubt it has ever been thus.
It’s all verbal booby traps to get us into the program without making it mandatory as in the UK under the Public Health Act not one person on earth cannot make Vaccines mandatory….unless 1.2 million dies of a deadly disease…
Enemies of Freedom
What about the millions who don’t have a smart phone?
I’ve decided not to travel so imagine if 80 million more so then it fails.
Experimental vaccines are not proven yet and are still in phase 3 until 2023. Not one so called scientist can confirm this so it’s ridiculous to even think of this yet. More threats on our liberties.
UK gov are trying to slip this for under our noses. Take the survey now. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework
I sincerely hate this new world and everyone in favour of it, and I’m tired of pretending otherwise
I’d like the ability to easily prove to people that I have been vaccinated.
If that can be done by showing a QR code generated by the official NHS app, then great.
I volunteer to work with some extremely vulnerable groups, so have sympathy with any requirement to do so.
I can’t see a reason why a doctor’s surgery couldn’t issue a paper version for those without phones …. even though this is more open to forgery issues.
Not so great if, like myself, you do not own a smartphone.
Hence my suggestion of a paper version as an alternative
This should not be done for any reason. What next will government and large corporations put on us? Vaccination should always be a personal choice. PERIOD.
Fine, then refuse but you might have problems travelling to other countries.
That’s the whole point David. There shouldn’t be a problem travelling to other countries. This experimental jab does not prevent the disease, nor the transmission but looks like it may reduce the severity of symptoms. This means that this will be around like influenza so why mandate this jab when the virus will mutate many times over. Why not let healthy people be exposed to this virus and if the vulnerable and/or frightened folk want this jab, then that should suffice. This whole thing has been blown into covid hysteria.
Good data is now appearing that suggests that the jab significantly reduces the chance of transmission.
Given that, I feel fully entitled to seek out an airline that has chosen to implement a “must have the jab” policy for all its travellers.
They have the right to choose to operate in this way, and I have the right to prefer them.
You should have the right not to have a vaccine, or a vaccination record, and to seek out an airline/destination that chooses not to be concerned ….
The problem in this article is the expression “vaccination passport” which should in reality be called “vaccination record”.
The MSM have chosen this wording just to make it easy to wind people up.
Covid hysteria? Try telling that to the relatives of the 150,000 and counting dead in the UK. The real, hysteria is coming from anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists and those who promote the idea that the pandemic was planned .
if other countries set their own requirements , as they do, then it’s entirely up to them to decide to stop entry of anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated .
The 150,000 dead in the UK are Covid ‘claimed’ not Covid proven. And with the average age of Covid death 82 and the average of death, 81, it is hardly cutting a swathe.
Why should young people participate in this vaccine/genetic treatment experiment for no good cause? I doubt many of the risk group, very old and very sick, would want them to do so. Has anyone asked them if they want society in general to risk their lives and health to give them a few more months of life and sickness?
We need independent and objective retrospective critical analysis of the ‘cases’ and deaths attributed to Covid-19 from around the world.
These statistics have been used to impose incredible restrictions on people for the last year, and they need to be scrutinised.
Not really relevant to my point ….
In a free market economy, no airline owes us a seat, no private care home owes us a place.
My point is not about governments having this information, and not about it being compulsory.
It should be entirely up to you whether to have a vaccination, and entirely up to other organisations to decide who they want as customers.
I know this is often considered a right-wing talking point, but I’m for companies serving all customers regardless of their color, class, creed or medical history.