Ever since David Byrne’s American Utopia tour came by a couple of years ago, I’ve looked to the former Talking Heads frontman as a model of charm and civility. Lord knows there are plenty of examples of men becoming grumpy, stubborn and cranky as they age. But as “Slippery People” reverberated around the Motorpoint Arena in Cardiff, and Byrne cavorted with his grey-suited, bare-footed, wireless marching band, I saw a useful counter-example.
Here was someone who had reconciled his contradictions; who had found a way to be intellectual but silly, provocative but generous, urbane but cosmic. It doesn’t matter how old you are, I remember thinking, as long as you remain relevant, engaged and open. Most of us could find comfort in that as we age — even if we somehow never got round to making “Fear of Music” in our twenties.
It was a teeny bit jarring, then, to find Talking Heads drummer and co-founder Chris Frantz painting his bandmate of 15 years as an unreconstructed autocrat, a monster, a Machiavellian manipulator. “It’s like he can’t help himself,” Frantz said in an interview last week. Byrne’s brain, he complained, “is wired in such a way that he doesn’t know where he ends and other people begin. He can’t imagine that anyone else would be important.”
Byrne was always seen as difficult in Talking Heads heyday (1977-1991) but Frantz insists that the more genial figure of recent years is an artful construct. “It’s true that his public image has changed,” he said: “But friends of mine assure me that he hasn’t. I think he probably just decided that he could catch more bees with honey.”
The charge sheet is laid out in amusingly petty detail in Frantz’s memoir, Remain in Love — the title referring to Frantz’s long marriage to the Talking Heads bassist Tina Weymouth, rather than any affection towards the band’s frontman. At a student group art show, Byrne moved all of his paintings to the front, reducing everyone else to supporting players. He mocked Frantz for his wealthy parents but turned out to come from a pretty comfortable background himself. He repeatedly neglected to credit his bandmates for bits of song that they wrote. He was bitter and dismissive about Weymouth and Frantz’s side-project Tom Tom Club (“Well, that’s merely commercial music…”).
Why didn’t they play Live Aid? “Oh, that’s right. By 1984, David had decided that Talking Heads, one of the world’s great touring bands, should stop performing live.” And so on. One reviewer has likened Frantz’s book to a photo album “in which someone has cut all the heads off an estranged lover”.
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SubscribeIt’s amazing you have to point this out. But egalitarian obsessionalism seems to have obscured the historical importance of charismatic authority. Old Max Weber would be turning in his grave…
I saw the title of your article and two bands that contradicted your argument immediately sprang to mind. Lo and behold they got namechecked halfway through. I would have thought of Radiohead too at some point. Fun piece though and a welcome change from the endless barrage of woke culture wars Aunt Sallies being shot down in flames!!!
Not sure if you can really have an autocrat running a group. Whilst you may have a Top Dog figure the rest have to want to march and tow the line. I think Byrne’s best work was Talking Heads 1st 4 albums and after that he went somewhat up himself. Though the “no talking, just heads” effort following his departure was clearly fun for Frantz, Weymouth etc it never got the ticket or CD sales to make it worth carrying on. Also not sure if flouncing off in a huff is a sign of Despot material? If Dave Brock had done this with Hawkwind or Lemmy with Motorhead it’d be game over – both were able to compromise enough with new hires to keep the bands going, yet both were the only original members in their later careers and Hawkwind are not gone yet! Even GG Allin, the Papa Doc of RocknRoll managed not to fall out with some of his colleagues – tho AFAIK only his brother and the drummer Donald Sachs.
A friend once played in a metal/hardcore band and the singer was the alpha male, but did get most of the bookings and accepted the job of arse kicker in chief with mostly good humour. As it all went south after a few years my friend quit saying “Having this guy in charge is like being in a band with Hitler”. So i leant him Spike Milligan i think it was “Adolf Hitler – My Part in his Downfall” pointing out the bit where Spike notes WW2 would have been averted if the top Nazis had been a jazz band instead of crazed politicians.
Love David Byrne and Utopia is a must see.
Quite frankly, Leadership is Extremely lonely.
You can’t deliver breakthroughs with consensus.
There is a place for consensus, but very few of the outliers we admire become so without leaving behind many who find them autocratic, obsessed, etc.
Roger Waters and Pink Floyd certainly offer a fitting case study for this theory. Gilmour and Wright contributed some of the band’s most sublime moments. Roger’s lyrics were just brilliant, but once he left Pink Floyd he stopped producing work that resonated in the same way. The band was more than the sum of its parts. That’s what makes it magical.
The alternative to egalitarian democracy in an organization isn’t despotism or autocracy. In Petersonian terms, it’s a competence hierarchy where the best naturally rise to the top with the support and respect of the lesser talented. Egos will ruin everything, of course. Ringo was happy to be thrown a song or two, George was coming into his own and being recognized. It was up to John and Paul to ‘work it out’. Too bad.