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Starmer warns Tories not to undermine police over Southport

Keir Starmer addresses Prime Minister's Questions today. Credit: Parliament TV

October 30, 2024 - 1:40pm

Prime Minister Keir Starmer has today warned Conservative leadership candidates Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick not to undermine the police when it comes to information surrounding the Southport stabbing case.

Responding to a question from Reform UK MP Richard Tice at the pre-Budget Prime Minister’s Questions about whether withholding information in terror-related incidents creates an “information gap”, Starmer appeared to disagree. The Labour leader said he would “tread carefully” in answering, but then turned the focus to the Tory leadership hopefuls. “They can either support the police in their difficult task or they can undermine the police in their difficult task,” he said. “I know what side I’m on.”

At the start of the session, Commons Speaker Lindsay Hoyle blocked MPs from asking explicit questions about the case. “It is of paramount importance that nothing is said in this House that could prejudice a proper trial,” he said. “At the heart of this case are three young girls.”

These comments come just a day after it was revealed that Axel Rudakubana, the 18-year-old accused of murdering three girls at a dance class in Southport, was in possession of an al-Qaeda manual. The stabbing, which occurred on 29 July and was described by Merseyside Police as “not believed to be terror-related”, precipitated large-scale riots less than a month into Labour’s term.

Shortly after the killings, rumours spread on social media that the perpetrator was a recent Muslim immigrant to the country named “Ali al-Shakati”. In fact, Rudakubana was born to Rwandan parents in Cardiff. As a result, the riots were blamed on the spreading of false information.

The release of information that Rudakubana was in possession of terror-related material and had produced the poison ricin comes amid reports that the Government had been aware of this some weeks ago but did not report it until the day before the Budget. The timing of this announcement has led to accusations that Number 10 was attempting to bury the news that might lead to more civil unrest. Rudakubana appeared in Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday via videolink from Belmarsh Prison after being charged with terror offences in addition to three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder.

In response to the news that Rudakubana possessed an al-Qaeda manual, Badenoch explained why she had until now remained silent on the issue. “After the Southport murders and the ensuing protests and riots, some people asked me why I wasn’t commenting. This is why,” she wrote online.

“Too many on all sides rush to conclusions before all the facts are clear,” she claimed in a post yesterday. “As more information emerges, it is quite clear that there are serious questions to be asked of the police, the CPS and also of Keir Starmer’s response to the whole situation.”


Max Mitchell is UnHerd’s Assistant Editor, Newsroom.

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Arthur G
Arthur G
22 hours ago

So, if the guy is an Islamist terrorist, you pretty much have to free everyone who was jailed for spreading “false information”, no? Because it wasn’t false.

j watson
j watson
58 minutes ago
Reply to  Arthur G

No. Others were jailed for inciting violence or committing violent acts. Nobody was jailed simply for false info. Just as well as your Masterclass in misinformation would have got you into jail too – were your point in anyway correct.

Arthur G
Arthur G
21 hours ago

Also, shouldn’t the police be undermined when they do the wrong thing? Where in British law does it say the Police Force’s job is to protect Islam from criticism?

Steven Carr
Steven Carr
21 hours ago

They discovered ricin in his house.
It does not take 3 months to search a house after a murder and discover deadly poison.
The forensic people would have found that ricin very quickly after the attack.
But that information was kept from the public,

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
21 hours ago

It’s not undermining the police to ask uncomfortable questions when the facts have become clear – it’s absolutely necessary. Badenoch is right.
By giving the Tories such a warning, Starmer further undermines his own authority – or what’s left of it. Saw his popularity ratings this morning, ouch!

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 hour ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I think by their own conduct the police undermine themselves. This is unfortunate when the treatment meted out to sergeant Martyn Blake confirms that out enemies are also their enemies

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
21 hours ago

I think people have seen what Starmer means by “supporting the police.” It is situational support that has nothing to do with law enforcement principles and everything to do with the principals who are involved. This is the guy on whose watch cops are arresting people for social media posts.

John Galt
John Galt
22 hours ago

Oh so it was okay because they were actively withholding false information but it was for our own good because we just couldn’t be trusted with the real information.

Wait a minute I’ve seen this nonsense before during COVID. Well I feel glad for one that the government has decided what information I should and should not be allowed or be in possession of like a watchful family member. I’m glad the government disciplined and jailed those people for misinformation who said it was terror related, even though it was they shouldn’t have been allowed to say it, after all the state has decided they shouldn’t.
I love the government decideding what I shouldn’t and shouldn’t know what I should and shouldn’t do, it makes me feel like they are watching over me and taking care of me like a Big Brother.

Dylan B
Dylan B
1 hour ago

Is anyone else getting annoyed by the MSM continued use of Mr Axel Rudakuban’s schoolboy photograph? 
It’s so misleading. 
He’s 18 for crying out loud (17 at the time of the incident). I don’t know how old he is in that pic but he sure isn’t 17.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
49 minutes ago
Reply to  Dylan B

Why is the defendant allowed to cover his face during court proceedings?

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 hour ago

The PM knows this is a disaster. He lied, the police lied, the murderer was a terrorist. The deplorables he so despises were right.