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Sir Nicholas Soames: Philip’s values now seem far away

April 9, 2021 - 5:32pm

There are few families in Britain closer to the royal family than the family of wartime leader Sir Winston Churchill. His grandson, Sir Nicholas Soames, knew Prince Philip very well over a 60-year period and shared his thoughts on his passing in a special edition of LockdownTV.

“It’s a strange day, a day of reflection, and I hope people get him right,” he told me. “The press, with that attention span for which they are famous, always talks about his ‘gaffes’ — his gaffes were that what you saw was what you got. He was an absolutely ram rod straight former naval officer, who didn’t have much time for sycophancy or bloody fools or anyone else, and spoke as he found. But he was essentially a man of great humour, he had tremendous wit and charm … and he held very strong views. This is not a mere figure.”

Sir Nicholas reflected on the values of the generation that the Duke of Edinburgh belonged to:

One of the saddest things about Prince Philip dying — and about a lot of people who die of his generation — is that they are the last of a generation who people talk about slightly glibly, but they were the wartime generation. He did see active service, he knew what it was like to command in great difficulty and at hours of great danger… The values of his generation now feel quite far away. He wasn’t a sentimentalist, Prince Philip, but he was a tough egg… He was the epitome of the stiff upper lip. I mean that in the best sense of the word. It wasn’t that he didn’t share emotion in any way, but he was a great believer in picking yourself up and getting on with it.

I’ll tell you what I think we have lost, that his generation had — we’ve lost any sense of proportion about what goes on. Everything is bulled up into an enormous drama, but if you’ve lived in that generation you’ve lived through an era of profound upheaval. And you learned to distinguish between what was important and what wasn’t important. I think we’ve lost that now.

- Sir Nicholas Soames, UnHerd

Sir Nicholas stressed that, as evidenced by Prince Philip’s founding of St George’s House centre for spiritual reflection at the chapel at Windsor Castle, “he was a thinker, and he was interested in the spiritual side of life.”

But the reputation for straight talking was well-earned:

He didn’t like bloody fools, and if he thought you were talking rubbish he told you… What you saw with Prince Philip was what you got. He was completely authentic as a human being. I think it must have been a great challenge when he first started as the Queen’s consort not to allow his own character to dominate. He was always in the Queen’s wake, and he supported her through thick and thin, through some terribly difficult times.
- Sir Nicholas Soames, UnHerd

Sir Nicholas shared that Prince Philip would not have wanted a state funeral, even if Covid had not prevented one:

I think people would have wanted in great numbers to come and show their respects to Prince Philip, and I think it’s very sad — and entirely correct and understandable — that there are going to have to be very special arrangements for the funeral, because after all the royal family will want to behave the same as anyone else. I understand the body will lie in state at Windsor before his burial and it is not going to be a great do… I know for a fact that Prince Philip did not want a state funeral, but there would have been an opportunity for the public to pay their respects, because he was greatly admired.
- Sir Nicholas Soames, UnHerd

Freddie Sayers is the Editor-in-Chief & CEO of UnHerd. He was previously Editor-in-Chief of YouGov, and founder of PoliticsHome.

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Galeti Tavas
Galeti Tavas
3 years ago

Prince Philip’s death is like a spot light showing the difference between the old generation and the new. The new does not stand up well to the scrutiny.

David Platzer
David Platzer
3 years ago
Reply to  Galeti Tavas

The Stiff Upper Lip vs the Me Generation.

Andrew McGee
Andrew McGee
3 years ago
Reply to  Galeti Tavas

But the old doesn’t do well either. His ‘values’ seem to include racial and gender prejudice, as well as class prejudice and a disregard for all but his own class. No great loss there, then.

Giles Chance
Giles Chance
3 years ago
Reply to  Andrew McGee

Why class PP as “old generation” He would have been who he was in any generation – completely straight, inclined to rudeness and not very considerate of others’ feelings if he thought they were below par in some way, .totally loyal, not a fool in any way and probably great fun as well.

chris forrest
chris forrest
3 years ago
Reply to  Andrew McGee

what rubbish Andrew. Look at the D of E awards all he did for so many good causes tirelessly ,you are clearly bigoted from the outset

Johannes Kreisler
Johannes Kreisler
3 years ago

Composure and humour are the core English values the woke left fears and hates the most.

Geoff H
Geoff H
3 years ago

There is a marvellous quote on unHerd ’emotional incontinence’, and the woke are full of it.
https://unherd.com/2021/04/philip-prince-of-nowhere/
Katharine Eyre
The values that Philip (and the Queen of course) represent (duty, discipline, loyalty, stoicism) now seem far more admirable and like something we should be striving towards – not emotional incontinence and faux victimhood.

Last edited 3 years ago by Geoff H
Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
3 years ago
Reply to  Geoff H

Goodness, I’m being quoted now?!?

Giles Chance
Giles Chance
3 years ago

and Tolerance ! The British are very tolerant of mistakes and faults. Courage is the quality they admire, above all others.

Liz Walsh
Liz Walsh
3 years ago

Objectivity, logic, humor, grace under pressure — these seem to be to the Woke Folk as garlic is to vampires.

D Ward
D Ward
3 years ago

M “woke” “friends” (who call themselves socialists and think they are the milk of human kindness) are gnashing and frothing, accusing poor old Prince Philip of racism and worse – these people who have never done anything useful in their entire lives. It makes me want to weep. Why are people so vile?

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
3 years ago

“I’ll tell you what I think we have lost, that his generation had — we’ve lost any sense of proportion about what goes on. Everything is bulled up into an enormous drama, but if you’ve lived in that generation you’ve lived through an era of profound upheaval. And you learned to distinguish between what was important and what wasn’t important. I think we’ve lost that now.”

Yes, I think this is correct. The later generations have lost that ability – and perhaps it is the price for having lived in the luxury of peace in a wealthy country. This attitude can be regained though – even without some kind of external upheaval. Every individual can decide for him-/herself to think and act differently and to which ideals they aspire.

chris forrest
chris forrest
3 years ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

like lots of my late years my parents were bombed, suffered shortages personal loss and privation in the war, and biffed on whereas so many have struggled with lockdown leaving them suffering from PTSD! come on!
we are simply becoming weaker as a race

Cynthia Neville
Cynthia Neville
3 years ago

Thank you for sharing with readers your ‘own truth’. If Meghan can have one, so can the rest of us.

chris forrest
chris forrest
3 years ago

The driver in the difference is to a great extent ‘social media’ or anti-social media as I prefer to call it. a rabble can be raised in minutes and it is a source of much evil, suicide bullying etc.
are we better with or without it?
it needs far stricter controls very difficult in a free society.
Debate!