EU law is mobilized to punish Hungary for restricting LGBT content on national TV. EU law is not mobilized to punish Denmark for pursuing hardline anti-foreigner policies – including restrictions on where foreigners in Denmark can live. “Rule of Law” is very selective, and the Commission turns a blind eye when it suits.
Last edited 1 year ago by Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
1 year ago
EU law is mobilized to punish Hungary for restricting LGBT content on national TV. EU law is not mobilized to punish Denmark for pursuing hardline anti-foreigner policies – including restrictions on where foreigners in Denmark can live. “Rule of Law” is very selective, and the Commission turns a blind eye when it suits.
Last edited 1 year ago by Lennon Ó Náraigh
Daniel P
1 year ago
Still think the EU is just a really bad idea.
Europe is just too diverse for it to work.
You want to see where it can lead? Look at the US. More and more it looks like less federalism is going to be the answer to the country not tearing itself apart altogether.
Cooperation, confederation, around common needs is one thing. Handing over so much control of what goes on within a countries borders, that is another.
The EU was a grandiose vision that is fundamentally impractical and likely to create new tensions while exacerbating old ones.
Daniel P
1 year ago
Still think the EU is just a really bad idea.
Europe is just too diverse for it to work.
You want to see where it can lead? Look at the US. More and more it looks like less federalism is going to be the answer to the country not tearing itself apart altogether.
Cooperation, confederation, around common needs is one thing. Handing over so much control of what goes on within a countries borders, that is another.
The EU was a grandiose vision that is fundamentally impractical and likely to create new tensions while exacerbating old ones.
Kerie Receveur
1 year ago
More power to Budapest’s elbow.
Kerie Receveur
1 year ago
More power to Budapest’s elbow.
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
It will be interesting to see how this plays out given that the EU’s interference in the internal affairs of member states could in future be turned on other member states. War by other means as it were. December 19 seems to be the crunch date to see if the commission has the necessary majority of countries on side to push through its full sanctions against Hungary despite the disruption an uncooperative Hungary could cause in its functioning.
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
It will be interesting to see how this plays out given that the EU’s interference in the internal affairs of member states could in future be turned on other member states. War by other means as it were. December 19 seems to be the crunch date to see if the commission has the necessary majority of countries on side to push through its full sanctions against Hungary despite the disruption an uncooperative Hungary could cause in its functioning.
Andrew Wise
1 year ago
> The EU can still save the situation
Lol … Captain Scarlet to the rescue 🙂 …. good luck with that
Andrew Wise
1 year ago
> The EU can still save the situation
Lol … Captain Scarlet to the rescue 🙂 …. good luck with that
Peter Johnson
1 year ago
Whenever I read about the EU from across the Atlantic I can’t believe anyone would want to be part of it. Being governed by a bunch of pompous foreigners sounds like an exercise in endless frustration.
Its a total nightmare. But our pro EU political/admin elite here and the Remainiac State broadcaster BBC never ever shines a true light on the multiple horrors of the EU; it’s rampant Zolverein protectionism, bullying and intimidation (inflaming Ulster) within and zero diplomatic impact without (appeasing two totalitarian powers); its chronic bureaucratic risk aversion and its forever broken backed dysfunctional currency regime. Too many Remainers profitted from uncontrolled mass migration and the rigged no new housing property market to even bother about ACTUAL EU behaviour. There is gold is bricks & mortar.
Its a total nightmare. But our pro EU political/admin elite here and the Remainiac State broadcaster BBC never ever shines a true light on the multiple horrors of the EU; it’s rampant Zolverein protectionism, bullying and intimidation (inflaming Ulster) within and zero diplomatic impact without (appeasing two totalitarian powers); its chronic bureaucratic risk aversion and its forever broken backed dysfunctional currency regime. Too many Remainers profitted from uncontrolled mass migration and the rigged no new housing property market to even bother about ACTUAL EU behaviour. There is gold is bricks & mortar.
Peter Johnson
1 year ago
Whenever I read about the EU from across the Atlantic I can’t believe anyone would want to be part of it. Being governed by a bunch of pompous foreigners sounds like an exercise in endless frustration.
Marshall Auerback
1 year ago
About a month ago, Hungary stopped receiving heavily subsidised gas from Russia. They are now paying world prices which, even though they have fallen from the highs, are still higher than the subsidised prices Budapest was getting before. Perhaps the real quid pro quo is Putin using Orban as his agent to disrupt increased sanctions/punishment on Russia in exchange for continued cheap gas?
Marshall Auerback
1 year ago
About a month ago, Hungary stopped receiving heavily subsidised gas from Russia. They are now paying world prices which, even though they have fallen from the highs, are still higher than the subsidised prices Budapest was getting before. Perhaps the real quid pro quo is Putin using Orban as his agent to disrupt increased sanctions/punishment on Russia in exchange for continued cheap gas?
j watson
1 year ago
The counter-factual is perhaps – how much the EU has already influenced Hungarian politics for some years, and for the positive? Who knows where Orban Hungary would be without the bond and occasional brake of the EU? Belarus?
The EU may not win all it’s arguments, and it has to bend and compromise on many occasions or it cannot last. But it’s general spirit remains at work almost to the extent it’s so normalised and accepted we no longer see it.
Last edited 1 year ago by j watson
j watson
1 year ago
The counter-factual is perhaps – how much the EU has already influenced Hungarian politics for some years, and for the positive? Who knows where Orban Hungary would be without the bond and occasional brake of the EU? Belarus?
The EU may not win all it’s arguments, and it has to bend and compromise on many occasions or it cannot last. But it’s general spirit remains at work almost to the extent it’s so normalised and accepted we no longer see it.
EU law is mobilized to punish Hungary for restricting LGBT content on national TV. EU law is not mobilized to punish Denmark for pursuing hardline anti-foreigner policies – including restrictions on where foreigners in Denmark can live. “Rule of Law” is very selective, and the Commission turns a blind eye when it suits.
EU law is mobilized to punish Hungary for restricting LGBT content on national TV. EU law is not mobilized to punish Denmark for pursuing hardline anti-foreigner policies – including restrictions on where foreigners in Denmark can live. “Rule of Law” is very selective, and the Commission turns a blind eye when it suits.
Still think the EU is just a really bad idea.
Europe is just too diverse for it to work.
You want to see where it can lead? Look at the US. More and more it looks like less federalism is going to be the answer to the country not tearing itself apart altogether.
Cooperation, confederation, around common needs is one thing. Handing over so much control of what goes on within a countries borders, that is another.
The EU was a grandiose vision that is fundamentally impractical and likely to create new tensions while exacerbating old ones.
Still think the EU is just a really bad idea.
Europe is just too diverse for it to work.
You want to see where it can lead? Look at the US. More and more it looks like less federalism is going to be the answer to the country not tearing itself apart altogether.
Cooperation, confederation, around common needs is one thing. Handing over so much control of what goes on within a countries borders, that is another.
The EU was a grandiose vision that is fundamentally impractical and likely to create new tensions while exacerbating old ones.
More power to Budapest’s elbow.
More power to Budapest’s elbow.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out given that the EU’s interference in the internal affairs of member states could in future be turned on other member states. War by other means as it were. December 19 seems to be the crunch date to see if the commission has the necessary majority of countries on side to push through its full sanctions against Hungary despite the disruption an uncooperative Hungary could cause in its functioning.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out given that the EU’s interference in the internal affairs of member states could in future be turned on other member states. War by other means as it were. December 19 seems to be the crunch date to see if the commission has the necessary majority of countries on side to push through its full sanctions against Hungary despite the disruption an uncooperative Hungary could cause in its functioning.
> The EU can still save the situation
Lol … Captain Scarlet to the rescue 🙂 …. good luck with that
> The EU can still save the situation
Lol … Captain Scarlet to the rescue 🙂 …. good luck with that
Whenever I read about the EU from across the Atlantic I can’t believe anyone would want to be part of it. Being governed by a bunch of pompous foreigners sounds like an exercise in endless frustration.
Its a total nightmare. But our pro EU political/admin elite here and the Remainiac State broadcaster BBC never ever shines a true light on the multiple horrors of the EU; it’s rampant Zolverein protectionism, bullying and intimidation (inflaming Ulster) within and zero diplomatic impact without (appeasing two totalitarian powers); its chronic bureaucratic risk aversion and its forever broken backed dysfunctional currency regime. Too many Remainers profitted from uncontrolled mass migration and the rigged no new housing property market to even bother about ACTUAL EU behaviour. There is gold is bricks & mortar.
Its a total nightmare. But our pro EU political/admin elite here and the Remainiac State broadcaster BBC never ever shines a true light on the multiple horrors of the EU; it’s rampant Zolverein protectionism, bullying and intimidation (inflaming Ulster) within and zero diplomatic impact without (appeasing two totalitarian powers); its chronic bureaucratic risk aversion and its forever broken backed dysfunctional currency regime. Too many Remainers profitted from uncontrolled mass migration and the rigged no new housing property market to even bother about ACTUAL EU behaviour. There is gold is bricks & mortar.
Whenever I read about the EU from across the Atlantic I can’t believe anyone would want to be part of it. Being governed by a bunch of pompous foreigners sounds like an exercise in endless frustration.
About a month ago, Hungary stopped receiving heavily subsidised gas from Russia. They are now paying world prices which, even though they have fallen from the highs, are still higher than the subsidised prices Budapest was getting before. Perhaps the real quid pro quo is Putin using Orban as his agent to disrupt increased sanctions/punishment on Russia in exchange for continued cheap gas?
About a month ago, Hungary stopped receiving heavily subsidised gas from Russia. They are now paying world prices which, even though they have fallen from the highs, are still higher than the subsidised prices Budapest was getting before. Perhaps the real quid pro quo is Putin using Orban as his agent to disrupt increased sanctions/punishment on Russia in exchange for continued cheap gas?
The counter-factual is perhaps – how much the EU has already influenced Hungarian politics for some years, and for the positive? Who knows where Orban Hungary would be without the bond and occasional brake of the EU? Belarus?
The EU may not win all it’s arguments, and it has to bend and compromise on many occasions or it cannot last. But it’s general spirit remains at work almost to the extent it’s so normalised and accepted we no longer see it.
The counter-factual is perhaps – how much the EU has already influenced Hungarian politics for some years, and for the positive? Who knows where Orban Hungary would be without the bond and occasional brake of the EU? Belarus?
The EU may not win all it’s arguments, and it has to bend and compromise on many occasions or it cannot last. But it’s general spirit remains at work almost to the extent it’s so normalised and accepted we no longer see it.