I think we all know that not much will be done by ‘the powers that be’ in the UK:
1. The justice system (especially the police) is crippled by their own political correctness (Rotherham), ideology and ‘human rights’ laws.
2. No political party will do anything at all to stop the mass immigration, legal or illegal, of Muslims. No political party can enforce integration: that inflatable boat has sailed.
3. The prevailing culture of political correctness means most people in UK consider Islam to be a ‘religion of peace’, (or say they do, at any rate) and would oppose any restrictions that clearly treated Islam or Islamic institutions differently to, say, the Quakers or the Girl Guides. This despite any glaringly obvious differences in ‘values’.
4. The extant fear of being ‘cancelled’, sacked, arrested, assaulted, beheaded or stabbed means that many people won’t speak out publicly even if they don’t think Islam is a ‘religion of peace’: and so on nearly every critique aimed at other historic or religious institutions, Islam gets (and will continue to get) a free pass.
So if you’re scared of Islamic terrorism in the UK, and to some extent you probably should be, don’t hope to be protected by those in power: they have already put you in harm’s way and they preside over a culture in which you are in even more danger if you point this out; you are just putting your head above the parapet.
This problem will grow, the divide will deepen, the prevarication of government will continue, until civil conflict. I don’t like or want this and I very much hope it doesn’t happen in my lifetime. But considering the above, I’m afraid I just don’t see any other possible result being very likely.
But demographically the sooner it happens the better our chances of survival
Peter Kwasi-Modo
7 months ago
Islamism provides the perfect counter-culture, not only for born muslims, but for any other immigrants from Africa or the Middle East who bear a grudge against us. Their asylum claim failed, or they didn’t get to be a pro footballer, whatever. The common pattern for such grudge-bearers is that they engage in petty crime, eventually they get imprisoned and once behind bars they get brainwashed by radical Islamists. On release from prison, they then have a world view that explains their misfortune by blaiming us.
The only way to break this cycle is rapid removal, which implies doing whatever it takes to neuter the ability of lawyers to throw spanners into the works.
Just withdraw legal aid form all immigration/deportation cases
Derek Smith
7 months ago
“First, despite the Israeli government’s insistence that Hamas is equivalent to Isis, they are vastly different groups in both ideological and strategic terms.”
To me this is a distinction between the Islamic equivalents of ‘the Judean People’s Front’ and the ‘People’s Front of Judea’.
Agree, as an outsider looking in. However, one should never underestimate the narcissism of small differences: recall that, in the movie, the “People’s Front of Judea” hated the “Judean Popular Front” even more than they did the Romans.
No doubt the various sectaries and zealots will go for infidels such as we, as the first order of battle – but once they feel they’ve made some headway, they’ll be at each other’s throats soon enough.
William Shaw
7 months ago
Start arresting people and deporting whenever possible.
Charles Stanhope
7 months ago
“Are the British police ready for a renewed terror threat.”
Judging by the caption photograph definitely NOT! In fact given their past history, have they ever been?
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Emmanuel MARTIN
7 months ago
Not in Rotherham at least, local houmous sympathizers are too busy diddling with little local girls
Last week groups of unspecified activists tore don an Israeli flag from the town hall (marking the 1400 dead in the Hamas attack a few days earlier) and replaced it with a Palestine flag. Same at Sheffield town hall.
A very public display of power.
I wonder what the mayor of South Yorkshire has to say about it, especially from a Jewish perspective.
Gordon Arta
7 months ago
It isn’t ‘Islamism’, it’s Islam, the real Islam, the Islam invented, preached, and practised by Mohammed and his followers. The texts, and the supposed sayings and doings, are capable of an infinite number of ‘interpretations’, but all are held with utter certainty, and order or authorise violence in pursuit of their aims, and in furtherance of their power bases.
The sira of Mohamad is even more instructive. It describes his hundreds of attacks on neighbouring kufar communities tribes in glowing terms.
Shrunken Genepool
7 months ago
You lost me at ‘not immune’. Islamic jihadism is virtually guaranteed.
Paul Devlin
7 months ago
If a Muslim attacks gay people due to his reading of the Koran (as in Reading the other year and and attempted in London a couple of months ago), is this seen as islamist terrorism or just homophobia? Personally I believe Islamist terrorism is a lot more common than we are led to believe
Peter Stephenson
7 months ago
Liam, what a moderate, calmly objective assessment of real existential threat to our security and democratic foundations, one which is not neatly arrayed against us like a monolithic foreign country, but a diffused one with its strong tendrils winding through our body politic and even stifling its own powers of self protection. Congratulations Tony Blair, this was what you were after, wasn’t it?
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Jonathan Nash
7 months ago
Well quite. I recommend David Kilcullen’s “Blood Year” for anyone interested in the battlelines of this new war.
Rocky Martiano
6 months ago
Surely a statement of the bleeding obvious. Does ANYONE imagine we in the UK are immune from the Islamist threat (especially given our track record)?
Pete Marsh
6 months ago
A pensioner was stabbed to death in Hartlepool a few days ago. His killer was a cross channel migrant from North Africa staying in a local hotel at our expanse.
The authorities are being coy about his motives…
I think we all know that not much will be done by ‘the powers that be’ in the UK:
1. The justice system (especially the police) is crippled by their own political correctness (Rotherham), ideology and ‘human rights’ laws.
2. No political party will do anything at all to stop the mass immigration, legal or illegal, of Muslims. No political party can enforce integration: that inflatable boat has sailed.
3. The prevailing culture of political correctness means most people in UK consider Islam to be a ‘religion of peace’, (or say they do, at any rate) and would oppose any restrictions that clearly treated Islam or Islamic institutions differently to, say, the Quakers or the Girl Guides. This despite any glaringly obvious differences in ‘values’.
4. The extant fear of being ‘cancelled’, sacked, arrested, assaulted, beheaded or stabbed means that many people won’t speak out publicly even if they don’t think Islam is a ‘religion of peace’: and so on nearly every critique aimed at other historic or religious institutions, Islam gets (and will continue to get) a free pass.
So if you’re scared of Islamic terrorism in the UK, and to some extent you probably should be, don’t hope to be protected by those in power: they have already put you in harm’s way and they preside over a culture in which you are in even more danger if you point this out; you are just putting your head above the parapet.
This problem will grow, the divide will deepen, the prevarication of government will continue, until civil conflict. I don’t like or want this and I very much hope it doesn’t happen in my lifetime. But considering the above, I’m afraid I just don’t see any other possible result being very likely.
But demographically the sooner it happens the better our chances of survival
Islamism provides the perfect counter-culture, not only for born muslims, but for any other immigrants from Africa or the Middle East who bear a grudge against us. Their asylum claim failed, or they didn’t get to be a pro footballer, whatever. The common pattern for such grudge-bearers is that they engage in petty crime, eventually they get imprisoned and once behind bars they get brainwashed by radical Islamists. On release from prison, they then have a world view that explains their misfortune by blaiming us.
The only way to break this cycle is rapid removal, which implies doing whatever it takes to neuter the ability of lawyers to throw spanners into the works.
Just withdraw legal aid form all immigration/deportation cases
“First, despite the Israeli government’s insistence that Hamas is equivalent to Isis, they are vastly different groups in both ideological and strategic terms.”
To me this is a distinction between the Islamic equivalents of ‘the Judean People’s Front’ and the ‘People’s Front of Judea’.
Agree, as an outsider looking in. However, one should never underestimate the narcissism of small differences: recall that, in the movie, the “People’s Front of Judea” hated the “Judean Popular Front” even more than they did the Romans.
No doubt the various sectaries and zealots will go for infidels such as we, as the first order of battle – but once they feel they’ve made some headway, they’ll be at each other’s throats soon enough.
Start arresting people and deporting whenever possible.
“Are the British police ready for a renewed terror threat.”
Judging by the caption photograph definitely NOT! In fact given their past history, have they ever been?
Not in Rotherham at least, local houmous sympathizers are too busy diddling with little local girls
Last week groups of unspecified activists tore don an Israeli flag from the town hall (marking the 1400 dead in the Hamas attack a few days earlier) and replaced it with a Palestine flag. Same at Sheffield town hall.
A very public display of power.
I wonder what the mayor of South Yorkshire has to say about it, especially from a Jewish perspective.
It isn’t ‘Islamism’, it’s Islam, the real Islam, the Islam invented, preached, and practised by Mohammed and his followers. The texts, and the supposed sayings and doings, are capable of an infinite number of ‘interpretations’, but all are held with utter certainty, and order or authorise violence in pursuit of their aims, and in furtherance of their power bases.
Yeah, I really struggle to get that whole “Islam is a religion of peace” rhetoric. Has anyone read the Qu’ran?
The sira of Mohamad is even more instructive. It describes his hundreds of attacks on neighbouring kufar communities tribes in glowing terms.
You lost me at ‘not immune’. Islamic jihadism is virtually guaranteed.
If a Muslim attacks gay people due to his reading of the Koran (as in Reading the other year and and attempted in London a couple of months ago), is this seen as islamist terrorism or just homophobia? Personally I believe Islamist terrorism is a lot more common than we are led to believe
Liam, what a moderate, calmly objective assessment of real existential threat to our security and democratic foundations, one which is not neatly arrayed against us like a monolithic foreign country, but a diffused one with its strong tendrils winding through our body politic and even stifling its own powers of self protection. Congratulations Tony Blair, this was what you were after, wasn’t it?
Well quite. I recommend David Kilcullen’s “Blood Year” for anyone interested in the battlelines of this new war.
Surely a statement of the bleeding obvious. Does ANYONE imagine we in the UK are immune from the Islamist threat (especially given our track record)?
A pensioner was stabbed to death in Hartlepool a few days ago. His killer was a cross channel migrant from North Africa staying in a local hotel at our expanse.
The authorities are being coy about his motives…
They are not islamists, they are British.
Islam is a religion, British is a nationality therefore they can be both
Only if they pass the ‘cricket test’ as Mr Norman Tebbit put it so appositely some years ago now.
Islamism is also an abstract political ideology, like Marxism. Both, as we know, have their ´practical applications´.
Unfortunately it’s quite possible to be both British and an Islamist.
‘We’ shall have to change that, which is why we have Parliament in the first place.