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Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago

It is remarkable that Rishi Sunak seems to have saved the United Kingdom in the last three weeks! First defenestrating Sturgeon by blocking her GRR act and then by fixing the NI Protocol and (probably) getting Stormont back in session.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Indeed. Despite my misgivings due to his fixed-grin approach to his failed leadership campaign, he may just be starting to – if not turn the tide – at least stop it from encroaching further up the beach (and over the Red seawall?)
The securing of this agreement with the EU regarding NI may just be his own “Good Friday” moment, which consolidated Tony Blair (at the time, in 1998) as a political leader who could get things sorted in a diplomatic way.
The Opposition brayed in the Commons yesterday when Sunak praised his predecessor (without naming Boris) for his work over Brexit. I see that process as it stood with regard to NI as a necessary step to achieve the initial Brexit breakthrough, upon which Sunak is now able to build in a different style.
The initial noises coming from the DUP do appear to be stage-managed. They won’t want to be seen to be outflanked by either the Right or by Sunak, but it seems inconceivable they won’t eventually head back into Stormont, with the Brake in their pocket and perhaps another fixed grin for us to countenance.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Murray
Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I think I’ll wait to see the Budget before revising my opinion of Sunak even slightly.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago

What are the chances you’ll see a significant wealth tax do you suppose?

Last edited 1 year ago by Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago

What are the chances you’ll see a significant wealth tax do you suppose?

Last edited 1 year ago by Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I hope you’re right. However I fear the main reason the DUP refused to sit is because Sinn Féin will have the First Mininster role and playing second fiddle to SF is too much for the DUP to swallow.. dodo diehards that they are.

Stephen Magee
Stephen Magee
1 year ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Got it in one. Most DUP supporters would be hard-pressed to spell “Protocol”, let alone understand it.

Stephen Magee
Stephen Magee
1 year ago
Reply to  Liam O'Mahony

Got it in one. Most DUP supporters would be hard-pressed to spell “Protocol”, let alone understand it.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I think I’ll wait to see the Budget before revising my opinion of Sunak even slightly.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I hope you’re right. However I fear the main reason the DUP refused to sit is because Sinn Féin will have the First Mininster role and playing second fiddle to SF is too much for the DUP to swallow.. dodo diehards that they are.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Quite a bit in that MM and a good observation. Think Sturgeon defenestrated herself as much though. Regardless of how Sunak reacted she’d lost the confidence of the Scottish public with that crusade.

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Yes she brought it on herself (and may have been looking for an opportunity to bail anyway) but Sunak’s blocking of the legislation was instrumental. He was advised against doing so by lots of perfectly sound commentators but did it anyway. Ditto with this NI Protocol renegotiation. So he has gone up in my estimation both in terms of his judgement and his political skill.
Who knows, maybe the next GE is not yet such a foregone conclusion.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Always believed it would be much closer than many think, or thought, if he got given the time and space by some on his side who were less supportive or never supported his elevation. And like any PM they need a bit of luck too, and the mild winter and lower fuel costs/crisis just perhaps a sign his luck isn’t all bad.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Always believed it would be much closer than many think, or thought, if he got given the time and space by some on his side who were less supportive or never supported his elevation. And like any PM they need a bit of luck too, and the mild winter and lower fuel costs/crisis just perhaps a sign his luck isn’t all bad.

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

Yes she brought it on herself (and may have been looking for an opportunity to bail anyway) but Sunak’s blocking of the legislation was instrumental. He was advised against doing so by lots of perfectly sound commentators but did it anyway. Ditto with this NI Protocol renegotiation. So he has gone up in my estimation both in terms of his judgement and his political skill.
Who knows, maybe the next GE is not yet such a foregone conclusion.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

He also seems to have outmanoeuvered Boris Johnson with this deal – and may even end up stealing the label “got Brexit done”. Pretty impressive. I wasn’t at all a fan of Rishi Sunak and didn’t think him very smart as a politician. But perhaps we’ve all underestimated him.

Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

The main factor was to overestimate Lord Frost perhaps?

Last edited 1 year ago by Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
Liam O'Mahony
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

The main factor was to overestimate Lord Frost perhaps?

Last edited 1 year ago by Liam O'Mahony
Albireo Double
Albireo Double
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Sunak is bound to get all the help going from the worldwide political and financial establishment and the supranational WEF/Davos mob. He is after all their candidate, coercively imposed as UK Prime Minister by a gerrymandered Tory party agreement.

I’m glad of the promising results that this appears to be providing for the UK. But it won’t for one moment make me vote Conservative again. They won’t get my support again as long as they’re stuffed with Liberal Left Greens.

So I’ll just take their favours and happily kick them in the teeth at the next election anyway. Reform UK will get my vote.

Stephen Magee
Stephen Magee
1 year ago
Reply to  Albireo Double

Look on the bright side: tinfoil will be cheaper under this deal.

Stephen Magee
Stephen Magee
1 year ago
Reply to  Albireo Double

Look on the bright side: tinfoil will be cheaper under this deal.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Indeed. Despite my misgivings due to his fixed-grin approach to his failed leadership campaign, he may just be starting to – if not turn the tide – at least stop it from encroaching further up the beach (and over the Red seawall?)
The securing of this agreement with the EU regarding NI may just be his own “Good Friday” moment, which consolidated Tony Blair (at the time, in 1998) as a political leader who could get things sorted in a diplomatic way.
The Opposition brayed in the Commons yesterday when Sunak praised his predecessor (without naming Boris) for his work over Brexit. I see that process as it stood with regard to NI as a necessary step to achieve the initial Brexit breakthrough, upon which Sunak is now able to build in a different style.
The initial noises coming from the DUP do appear to be stage-managed. They won’t want to be seen to be outflanked by either the Right or by Sunak, but it seems inconceivable they won’t eventually head back into Stormont, with the Brake in their pocket and perhaps another fixed grin for us to countenance.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Murray
j watson
j watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Quite a bit in that MM and a good observation. Think Sturgeon defenestrated herself as much though. Regardless of how Sunak reacted she’d lost the confidence of the Scottish public with that crusade.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

He also seems to have outmanoeuvered Boris Johnson with this deal – and may even end up stealing the label “got Brexit done”. Pretty impressive. I wasn’t at all a fan of Rishi Sunak and didn’t think him very smart as a politician. But perhaps we’ve all underestimated him.

Albireo Double
Albireo Double
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt M

Sunak is bound to get all the help going from the worldwide political and financial establishment and the supranational WEF/Davos mob. He is after all their candidate, coercively imposed as UK Prime Minister by a gerrymandered Tory party agreement.

I’m glad of the promising results that this appears to be providing for the UK. But it won’t for one moment make me vote Conservative again. They won’t get my support again as long as they’re stuffed with Liberal Left Greens.

So I’ll just take their favours and happily kick them in the teeth at the next election anyway. Reform UK will get my vote.

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago

It is remarkable that Rishi Sunak seems to have saved the United Kingdom in the last three weeks! First defenestrating Sturgeon by blocking her GRR act and then by fixing the NI Protocol and (probably) getting Stormont back in session.

Dermot O'Sullivan
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago

The article starts off with the challenge the DUP is facing from those to their right (“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.“) and concludes with the growth of the liberal left-centre. I’m not saying that is inaccurate in any way, but it comes across as written in haste.

Last edited 1 year ago by Dermot O'Sullivan
Dermot O'Sullivan
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago

The article starts off with the challenge the DUP is facing from those to their right (“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.“) and concludes with the growth of the liberal left-centre. I’m not saying that is inaccurate in any way, but it comes across as written in haste.

Last edited 1 year ago by Dermot O'Sullivan
Albireo Double
Albireo Double
1 year ago

“.. Yet it was so far to the Right — for example, it is coy about whether it would like to recriminalise homosexuality …”

I see nothing “right wing” in this view. It’s just a view, probably held by some people of all political beliefs.

The easy “jump-to” by the writer speaks volumes about his own likely political position though.

Albireo Double
Albireo Double
1 year ago

“.. Yet it was so far to the Right — for example, it is coy about whether it would like to recriminalise homosexuality …”

I see nothing “right wing” in this view. It’s just a view, probably held by some people of all political beliefs.

The easy “jump-to” by the writer speaks volumes about his own likely political position though.