Last week, I wrote that Labour, during half a year in office, has launched a staggering 67 reviews and consultations, as well as “a new quango every week since coming to power”.
But it seems there is such a thing as an inquiry too far. Yesterday, it was reported that Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips had formally rejected repeated requests for a Home Office-led inquiry into Oldham’s historic rape gangs scandal, following a request by the local council. X owner Elon Musk then called for Phillips to be jailed as a result.
Phillips acknowledged the strong sentiment that a further inquiry into child sexual exploitation in Oldham should be conducted, but said that “it is for Oldham Council alone to decide to commission an inquiry into child sexual exploitation locally, rather than for the Government to intervene.”
A less charitable interpretation might point to self-preservation: despite her vocal opposition to violence against women and girls, Phillips may be worried about opening herself up to allegations of Islamophobia after nearly losing her seat to a pro-Gaza independent candidate last year. Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner’s seat of Ashton-under-Lyne previously covered part of Oldham, and Jim McMahon, the Local Government Minister, served as a councillor on the authority from 2003 and as leader between 2011-16.
The reasons for refusing a Government intervention can be disputed, but it cannot be disputed that it is reprehensible. The case for a centralised inquiry is clear: while this request was for Oldham alone, there has been a rape gang scandal in over 50 British towns and cities. This is a staggering scale of depravity, and most cases are marked by close resemblances in their systematic nature. The demographics of the rapists are often disproportionately men of Pakistani origin and their victims are particularly vulnerable young girls, often in social care. There have been large-scale cover-ups within ethnic communities, social services, police forces and council authorities.
Politicians have taken to passing laws named after victims — such as Martyn’s Law, Clare’s Law, Harper’s Law — to ensure the often appalling and nightmarish circumstances of their deaths never happen again. By contrast, it seems like politicians cannot wait to forget the victims of Britain’s grooming gang epidemic.
While there have been isolated inquiries, such as the Jay Report and a 2013 report by the Home Affairs Committee, these have not provided sufficient answers. But a report solely into the events in Oldham will arguably suffer from the same issue, as will any report provided by a council reporting on its own conduct. Given that many of those involved may still be serving, it will be difficult to name the individuals at fault.
Rather than treating each gang as a separate problem, the Government should launch an inquiry that deals with the disturbing phenomenon as a whole. It should treat this as what it is: a national problem, not isolated incidents. It should provide the resources, authority and backing necessary to deal with the crisis as such and tackle the institutional cover-ups which happened time and time again, regardless of the council area responsible.
If politicians want to look us in the face and promise “never again”, as they seem so keen to do on so many other issues, the inquiry must identify the exact names and positions of those responsible for cover-ups. Every single one should be named, fired, disbarred from public office and tried, not just pour encourager les autres but to provide justice for the thousands of vulnerable women and girls who were failed. That alone is not enough, though. We must establish RICO-like laws to allow for individual prosecutions of those abetting the gangs and, given the role of multiple police forces already established in cover-ups, authority should be handed to domestic intelligence agencies. A stain so large on the soul of our nation requires a national clean-up.
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SubscribeWell, what a silly question. Labour are open-borders neoliberal corporate globalists, importing millions of people from hostile alien cultures to drive down our wages and replace us. It’s not complicated.
They serve the 0.01%, not the indigenous people of this country, certainly not the indigenous working class, who are on the receiving end of this horror show.
If they keep this up it’ll swallow them too in the end. Phillips should have figured that out after her experiences in the last election. Things is, Phillips, Starmer, Lammy, Reeves none of them are stellar intellects are they. You wouldn’t actually consider them elites. More like drones.
Personally I rather value being told I’m wrong by smart people, but being told I’m stupid by midwits who’ve never had an original thought is contemptible.
stellar intellects
This has to be the most intellectually feeble Labour front bench in the Party’s history.
This does not bode well for the relationship between the US and the UK.
To get back to the subject matter hasn’t this been going on for nigh on twenty years? Are the present rapists the children of the previous rapists. This is not new. Yes it happened almost exclusively in Labour controlled areas but the Tories were still in power and appear to have done nothing much like the present government appears to. It appears to be so so hard to get justice in this country and we are seeing things happen that we never have seen in bygone days. Keep speaking out Tom. There appears to be an unhealthy alliance between woke and Islam which is destroying our country as we watch.
More like nearly 40 years. When we moved to Handsworth in Birmingham in 1988 there was trouble between Muslims and Sikhs because the Muslims were trying it on with Sikh girls. But the Sikhs knew their enemy – after nearly 400 years of coming to grips with them in India-and fought back . The local press euphemistically referred to this as ” disputes over women”. The Muslims moved on to easier prey.
Didn’t the Tories already commission and publish an independent review on grooming gangs during their term in office? Wasn’t Badenoch the Under-Secretary of State for Safeguarding and Violence Against Women and Girls at the time? Why would Labour commission another review that’ll cost the tax payer £millions when the findings of the original have yet to be implemented?
The answer to your opening question is no. The Home Office review to which I presume you refer was not independent and merely summarised the findings of a number of existing studies. The HO did not interview any victims or other participants and gathered no new evidence. Neither was it focussed on grooming gangs, it looked all forms of child sexual abuse.
In answer to your second question, no again. Badenoch had an additional role of the Minister for Women & Equalities. The post of Minister for Safeguarding and VAWAG is a new one invented by Labour and is obviously not one the Government takes seriously. Previously, there was a Minister for Safeguarding, a role held by a succession of Tory nobodies, none of whom were Kemi Badenoch.
It is not something that has just happened in the past. It is happening now. You think the review was done and that is it? It obviously has been ineffective.
The victims are white working class and there is no social group more loathed by our lofty liberal ruling elite.
There is a subset of people whose motto is “I’d rather be dead than be called a racist”. It is one of the tenets of the undeclared but quasi-official state religion, which one has to be an adherent if of one wants to be part of the power structure. The structure is the same as during any time in history, only the content is different.
Another favourite motto appears to be “I’d rather be a coward than make a stand if it goes against the current dogma of the day.”
Recalls Leszek Kolakowski’s articulation of what motivated those in the West who from the 1960s through the 1980s regularly chanted “Better Red than Dead”. Namely “Better Slave Than Brave”.
Says it all, Simon.
Naz Sha, Labour MP, retweeted and liked a post saying that victims should shut up for the sake of diversity. Sarah Champion (another Labour MP) was bullied and heckled when she named the main demographic involved in the crimes. (It goes without saying that she was labeled as a racist). This is the Labour way of dealing with this awful situation – silencing anyone who might upset the apple cart. I’m sure the party will be doubling down on suppression and spin, now that the lazer-like beam of public interest will, in due course, rest on the one person who was ultimately responsible: Kier Starmer.
By the way, I have been thinking for many years that the crimes were “only” sex and drugs (bad enough, I know) however, as court transcripts are slowly leaking out into the public sphere, I have learned that torture, GBH and murder are very much in the mix. The very worst of human depravity was inflicted on vulnerable young girls by men who had no fear of punishment, who, because of the colour of their skins, were virtually given the green light to pursue their most depraved dreams.
We, as a country, need to put this issue to bed, once and for all by punishing the facilitators, past and present. We’ve heard the bla, bla, bla of ‘lessons have been learned’ bla bla for far too long. We must have a full Public Inquiry.
The quick answer is self-interest. Too many Labour MPs dependent on Muslim and white Progressive votes.
The longer answer is that if the full picture of depravity were ever admitted to, the diversity and multi-culturalism house of cards would come crashing down on their heads.
Also, the more ostentatiously moralistic people are, the more likely they are to act from self-interest rather than principle.
This is almost right; but I would substitute ‘self-regard’ for ‘self-interest’. With the caveat that the self-regard in question is really a second-order reflection (that is, a recognition) of the regard of one’s fellow tribespeople. Arguably the entire distinction between progressive and conservative, psychologically speaking, comes down to whether it is self-regard or self-interest which offers the greater temptation.
Interesting idea. On which side do you see self-regard and on which side self-interest?
Self-interest, yes – but that of the man who was DPP at the time and all those desperately hanging on to his coat-tails.
Wasn’t that Starmer?
Answer to headline: it might offend Muslim voters.
In a democracy, Labour answers to its voters.
Indeed, but as they are against racism and pedophilia they should not pander to the gangs that targeted white underage girls and whose members mostly came from one particular community.
We’d be strung up if we did that in their country.
Give us a break!
“Westminster or Davos?”
“Davos”. Every time!
The default position is that no-one is ever held accountable, unfortunately.
A government should look after the interests of the whole country, not just those who voted for it.
Yep. Power not justice rules.
Several northern councils have fallen into the hands of the Biradari clan. When Corbyn was leader women of Pakistani origin demanded an enquiry into the routine misogyny that meant women who tried to stand for election were met with a barrage of online attacks and slurs. ( see the Muslim women’s network, Shaista Gohir, 2016) Corbyn approached that in a very tepid way and I believe the enquiry panel had several of the men responsible on it. It was a joke. The fact is that Labour has allowed a situation to prevail because they have cultivated the vote from that community – it’s on borrowed time for soon they will no longer need Labour.
The Labour Party – and the Tories – have behaved treacherously.
The fact that these people aren’t being deported and the people who let them in locked up is a crime crying out to heaven for vengeance.
Our legal system provides sufficient loopholes and leeway for a certain type of lawyer to prevent the full force of justice from being done. What’s needed is reform and updating of the relevant laws, and any party which set out a manifesto to do so – with a clear plan and timeline of implementation – would gain a huge amount of popular support at the ballot box.
It goes without saying which current surgent party might take this on board.
This needs to happen whilst the demographics of the UK still favour the indigenous population.
I agree it is hugely provocative and they don’t care, they simply cancel or arrest those who react too strongly for their liking. Can you imagine a reverse situation being tolerated in any Islamic country or anywhere come to that?
We all know that something dreadfully dangerous is happening to our country but it needs to be exposed in depth. Why are parliaments so ineffective or are they secretly behind this corruption and betrayal?
Tommy Robinson exposed this in detail but now they have put him in a maximum security prison. ?
I always suspected it from Labour for a long time but the real betrayal came from the Tories as I didn’t see it coming.
Musk accused Jess Phillips of vetoing any enquiry to protect Starmer who, while in charge of the CPS , turned a blind eye to the rape gangs. Why not report this?
More spin from the increasingly political and now quite obviously compromised Unherd. Why such subservience to Starmer?
And why not report Phillips’ full job title? Under-Secretary of State for Safeguarding and Violence against Women and Girls.
Think about that. Or is it Unherd’s purpose to deflect from that?
I can’t say agree with that. Yes, the article does pull punches, but there are our increasingly draconian laws and regulations to consider here. It does not exactly paint a pretty picture of government either. At the least, it states the decision is “reprehensible” which is certainly not spin.
I do agree that Starmer appears to be made from the same physics defying, friction-less material Blair is made from. Apparently, “I was not aware of it,” being his bullet proof defence to everything. If I were a professional journalist going after Starmer in the current climate, I would want every one of a very long line of ducks in a row.
‘Reprehensible’ after the decision has been made.
And that’s it? No one will be held responsible. Starmer is not even mentioned in the article.
Of course that is all spin. Deflection from criticism of Phillips and Starmer.
If I were a professional journalist going after Starmer
Unfortunately, with one or two noble exceptions like Charlie Peters and Patrick Christys, journalism just ain’t like that anymore. Where is Harry Evans when we need him?
Where were the Tories when we needed them? Certainly not at their posts.
“A less charitable interpretation might point to self-preservation: despite her vocal opposition to violence against women and girls, Phillips may be worried about opening herself up to allegations of Islamophobia after nearly losing her seat to a pro-Gaza independent candidate last year. Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner’s seat of Ashton-under-Lyne previously covered part of Oldham, and Jim McMahon, the Local Government Minister, served as a councillor on the authority from 2003 and as leader between 2011-16”
Literally the entire 4th paragraph of this very article explains why Labour may be reluctant to hold a proper inquiry. Do you even read the articles before commenting?
Still no mention of DPP Starmer, though, which was Littlewood’s main point.
Justice and Starmer have miles between them.
Probably because Phillips is the one refusing to grant an inquiry, or at least the one putting her name to the refusal
It doesn’t appear to be down to Unherd. Aren’t they allowing this exposure and not censoring?
Why? Because politicians generally use parliament as a status/network building exercise to springboard themselves into a life of comfort, wealth and self-congratulation. It’s a short term selfish game they play, and they don’t want to rock the boat before they’ve got to a safer shore.
Well said Ann. Succinct and straight to the point.
That is exactly what is wrong with the country and why it will be impossible to ‘fix’ in my opinion.
So they fiddle whilst GB burns.
This is an abridged version of my first comment on Unherd. I am disgusted it is still as pertinent today.
I was kicked off CIF (the Guardian comment section) the same year Move any Mountain was made Commenter of the Year, 2009. The next year he was also banned for the same crime, trying to initiate an online conversation about so called “grooming gangs”. That chap Nick Griffin was tried in a court of law in 2006 after a BBC mole recorded him talking about it to his supporters. Tommy Robinson (another name to conjure with) has also been persecuted by the state over this topic. In his case, because he filmed muslim men going to a court of law to face charges over vile sex crimes. Telford grooming survivor Samantha Smith appeared on GB News, to say that police had appeared at her door to intimidate her because she had gone onto GB News the previous week to talk about her experience of “grooming”. The resistance to people talking about this subject, and the intimidation which follows, comes from the top. The very top. Why? You may wonder. I believe it’s the scale of it. The numbers are horrifying. The crimes are the vilest things possible. More than a thousand girls in Telford alone. Make no mistake. This has been going on in towns and cities up and down the UK for decades. Tens of thousands of victims. The numbers of perpetrators… well… Pluck a figure and it won’t come close. This thing is rife, in the Pakistani Muslim communities here in Britain. They won’t talk about it, but they all know someone involved. They know they are all tainted by it. The Silence is deafening. Our leaders are terrified of what may happen, yet they seem unable even to deport any of those found guilty of these horrific crimes. Where will all this lead? Maybe the carpet is no longer big enough, and the monstrous truth will be fully exposed. I doubt it. Personally I think this is just another convulsion, before people like Pippa Mills – (The Chief Constable of West Mercia Police) get to bury it deeper once more, at least while they are in office. Make no mistake. The taxis are still going round, the girls are getting in, the vilest most horrific sex crimes are happening again, today, just down the road from where you live.
Now Jess Phillips is responsible for making the carpet much bigger. It won’t wash. Trying to avoid the scandal of Labour Councils covering this up for decades, Phillips and the rest of them are burying the Labour Party up to their necks in collusion with the most widespread evil ever perpetrated in Britain. In Scotland, SNP the same. The evil of these people cannot be overstated. Burn in Hell.
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in the light of recent events in France then surely this is the time to take a definitive and proactive stand against organised sex gangs. You can’t burnish your liberal values loudly and publicly praising the courage of the magnificent Giselle Pelicot without taking an aggressive view of this disgusting organised rape culture in our own country.
Jess Phillips has always been just a “gob on a stick”… vocal but achieving nothing except PR for herself.
Of all the useless MPs she must almost top the list for vacuity…and it’s not a small field.
I think David Lamebrain would give her a run for her money on that title
All too true, unfortunately
Not to mention the two Transport Secretaries they have so far inflicted on us.
The Labour Party and the SNP have actively covered up the most depraved and widespread evil ever committed in the British Isles. People such as Jess Phillips should burn in Hell for eternity.
the inquiry must identify the exact names and positions of those responsible for cover-ups
I think we all know by now where that would lead – which is why it won’t happen, at least not before 2029.
I would put money on every one of those responsible falling into the ‘progressive graduate’ category – Matt Goodwin’s new elite – they vote Labour and the party itself is riddled with them.
Labour will do everything in its power to protect it’s own – the real shock is the Tories have done that as well.
He’s called Keir. Who needs inquiries?
We need a Trump in this country to clean the swamp.
It’s a little unfair to blame Jess Phillips and Starmer’s Labour. All governments for the last 20 years have followed a consistent policy of burying anything that might disturb race relations. It’s worked, to a degree, but it is starting to break down. There are just too many losers.
The principal losers right now are the Jews and those poor girls. They are too numerous to be brushed aside and ignored.
Starmer enabled all of this before he was even in power.
No he did not. The grooming gangs have been going for many years, Probably since Thatcher was PM. Anne Cryer first spoke out about it in the early 2000s long before Starmer became DPP. He just happened to be DPP when the first major public outcry began along with the first trials. Before he became an MP.
During his campaign to bring these things to light Simon Danszuck has had many conversations with Tory politicians, including Cameron and May, but never with Yvette Cooper. His only conversations with his erstwhile Labour colleagues on the matter consisted of them telling him to shut up.
It’s entirely fair to blame Labour. The party has been completely subverted by middle class apparatchiks who use it purely to enrich themselves. Time it was gone.
Yes, the Tories are also to blame for their lazy, soft left acceptance of the establishment and it’s enforcement of multiculturalism and all it’s grotesque implications.
But Two Tier is in a direct line of fire on this. He was there as a very senior figure at the time and he is hiding his role in this abomination. He and his party are showing themselves to be worse, far worse than even I expected. They are behaving like gangsters.
They introduced an Assisted Suicide bill in a great hurry with all of 5 hrs parliamentary attention (said they’d sort out the ‘problems’ later in committee) but that issue involved the wishes of a celebrity and celebrity campaigners. We have known about this terrible epidemic of child abuse for decades. It isn’t a local horror it is a national one. Bindel was writing about it decades ago. When victims are vulnerable and voiceless this government doesn’t seem to care.
Of all its many wrongs in the short six months of its existence in government, this is the most egregious action by the Labour administration, verging on criminal i.e. the refusal to hold a full public enquiry into this appalling. The true and full extent of this catalogue of horrors is arguably the most evil happening to have occurred in the UK in decades. It is all the worse for the apparent lack of action by police, social services and politicians over an extended period of many years. Responsibility for this disgusting state of affairs, and the refusal to expose themselves to public scrutiny, starts at the very top of the body politic and filters into every nook and cranny of the management structures of the organisations involved.
The Pelicot rape trial in France and the Jimmy Savile nightmare (ignored, even tolerated for so long by the establishment) are horrendous enough in themselves as acts of depravity by revolting individuals. What has been done to countless, vulnerable, white girls in this country has been perpetrated by a massive multitude of disgusting people who perpetrated the sustained, organised rape of vulnerable girls in 50+ cities in the UK – and yet the government declines a full public enquiry! This would be beyond belief if the whole affair did not stink of an equally culpable multitude of people in positions of responsibility who knew what was happening but who failed to act and thereby allowed this horrendous depravity to endure and spread throughout the land. No wonder: deeply entrenched interests have no desire to be illuminated by a judicial spotlight!
There is something awful and utterly evil that exists hidden and unaccountable at the heart of some public services in this country; deep within the vertical and horizontal strata of the Woking Class elites and their hypocritical adherents, who maintain comfortable lives, well-distanced from the perversion and vileness they have known about for so long. Every one of those elected representatives, managers, supervisors and operators who failed to act when they knew, and therefore should have acted, should be dismissed from their positions, and leaders in the related management and political structures sent to prison for criminal conduct and negligence in office – preferably for long periods of incarceration. And the perpetrators should be summarily stripped of their ill-gotten and ill-respected citizenship and deported upon completion of lengthy prison sentences, if not (ideally) imprisoned for life.
How much longer will ordinary people be kept from understanding the full scale and depth of this ghastly affair? We expect our political and public service leaders to do the right thing. Those who failed to act or who covered up this evil in dereliction of their duties need to be brought and held to account and severely punished for their dereliction of duty!
Tantum sic iustitia fiat!
Very good post Chip.
This article fails to state that it is white children being targeted. This is not just “grooming”. Even the term abuse does not suffice to describe what are racial war crimes against the native population. The political class are complicit in this. Racial crimes against whites are frequently sidestepped by the scumbag media. Take the case of Charlene Downes, gang raped, murdered and served in a kebab. And yet, her name is nowhere near as well known as that of Stephen Lawrence, whose murder is used to indict our institutions. Most British people have probably never heard of Downes. Imagine, just imagine, if a white gang had gang raped a Muslim girl and served her on a plate at Toby Carvery. We would never hear the end of it. https://theheritagesite.substack.com/
The dead hand of Two Tier is all over this. Phillips is just a passenger on the gravy train, and will do or say anything to stay on it.
Two Tier has spent most of the last three years calling for inquiries into everything from people eating cake in the wrong place, who drove where, when and why and everything in between.
But not where countless young white girls have been abused raped and threatened with murder, ignored and cast aside by the police, and ignored by the justice system of which this disgusting man was a senior figure
Two Tier Kier. Two Tier Labour
…very simple. Her party were mostly responsible for it…they were in charge of most of the places where it happened…their people shaped policy in respect of policing, “community relations”, social services…and most of the “professionals” involved will have voted for them, or been party members…in some cases being involved in party politics to an extent well beyond that allowed for senior local government officers in Politically Restricted Posts.
All roads lead back to them…at every level…and right across the Country…but especially in the “Red Wall” seats…or those where the main threat is from Islamists…
…the Tories made a huge mistake in not setting up the enquiry when they had an opportunity…hopefully, they and Reform will now promise one.
There are 14 Muslim members of the Oldham Council ruling Labour group, including the leader and one of the deputy leaders. Guess why Phillips wants to leave the decision to them?
You nailed it.
No local council can investigate this catastrophe simply because, to do it properly, will draw towards those involved a high level of violence from the Muslim community, both threatened and actual. Only a co-ordinated nationwide all agency enquiry with media & police support will do it justice. This would be as difficult as a national self appraisal, putting at risk many theories, careers, parliamentary seats, and lives. Better to have got on to this 25 years ago with proper impartial policing. Meanwhile, Tommy sits alone in jail.
Three reasons
The victims were and are white working class girls – despised by left liberal middle class feminists, police and social workers.
There was and is a fear among left liberals that pointing out the perpetrators would inflame racial tensions, and as the victims were a despised class, and the perpetrators were a protected class, they resorted to victim blaming (they were white slags, where were the parents, etc)
Pretty well all were in Labour run councils, and a public enquiry would be too politically embarrassing
But any enquiry will be so dangerous for the people out in front of it. The immigrant group in question will respond with violence, real and threatened. Any enquiry will require nationwide co-operation between all agencies and the media. Fat chance. The danger of it! Better to have done some impartial policing 25 years ago.
Cowardice, venality, lazyness and incompetence. Are any other factors needed ?
Why are there so many criticisms of Unheard here? Have I missed something?
A young single mother from the West Country is organising the Million Women March in London on 17th February 2025 at 12pm. [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571294891233]
This is a laudable plan and good people should support this initiative and publicly demonstrate their unity with the march’s aims and express their visible disgust at the depravity that has infested our communities.
But this is a ‘man’ thing too. It would be egregiously wrong to create an impression that only women are actively appalled by the existence of rape rings in our midst, and by the torture and horrendous abuse of vulnerable girls. Men too are utterly horrified by this evil culture that has embedded itself amongst us. I would urge men also to join these marches and show the world that they too abhor this vileness that has tainted our body politic.
A stain so large would be difficult to clean up even if the Establishment wanted to clean it up but it doesn’t and no establishment is better at cover-ups than the British Establishment.
Some commentators assert that these hideous crimes (akin to the ghastly war crimes in the likes of Serbia, Rwanda, Berlin in 1945, Nazi invasion of Russia, Japanese in Nanking, etc.) occurred in 50+ towns and cities in the UK. That is an unbelievable number, which has broadly been curtained from the general public.
The judge’s sentencing remarks in merely ONE of these centres provide facts of the horrendous actions perpetrated by these monsters in our midst. You may access a copy of these remarks at:
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.pdf
We need to understand why these obscene depravities are so utterly evil, and why the public generally should demand retribution not only for the perpetrators themselves, but to create popular pressure for all those in authority who are guilty of gross negligence in public office
The author is deluded if he thinks public inquiries ever solve anything. As we’ve seen with the Post Office and Covid inquiries, they are just an excuse to kick the can down the road. You can’t prosecute anyone until the inquiry is not just over, but published and reviewed. Dozens of abusers have been locked up over the years. If there are people who are guilty of cover up or collusion, they should also be prosecuted.
More importantly, we need to make it sure it doesn’t happen again. So, yes, it needs its own independent force focussing on the most vulnerable areas.
Much more on this, please.
Many people must hang.
There is a Persian saying ” A fish rots from the head ” . Never has there been a more true saying. The question is why did the rot set in ?Did the Muslim population threaten civil war over Rushdie ? Thatcher who had spine was replaced by Major who is an invertebrate.
Where are the Unherd herd of Feminist writers? Anything to say?
Unherd is tainted. It is a con.
Your two questions are sensible. Your conclusions that follow them are not.
Oh, just because this site and it’s commenters don’t parrot every conspiracy fantasy you hold, you can’t stand it. UnHerd brings a range of views. I don’t agree with some of them myself. That’s its glory.
If you have a counter argument, make it.
Hasn’t a woman just written about it?
As far as I’m aware Professor Jay, who led the inquiry into multiple cases like this, was stating as recently as Nov she remains v frustrated the probe’s 20 recommendations had not been implemented more than two years after her Report.
Doesn’t that seem to be the bigger issue rather than doing another Inquiry? Of course that means Tories sat on the recommendations for 18 months, and guess who who was Under Sec for Families and then Equalities Minister as part of her portfolio, and thus who could have lent into this then if so wished – yep Kemi. She really is the ‘gift that keeps giving’. Regardless though Phillips should be pressed on Jay’s recommendations. Arguably the wrong point is being pressed on her.
As regards Elon, he’s given millions to someone who’s lost a Legal case regarding rape. He’s just exerting muscle for other reasons.
As regards Starmer, none of this is new. The convictions started and proceeded during his tenure and he appointed Nazir Afzul who nailed most of them. There is no evidence cases came across his desk he ignored. But now he’s PM he can’t ignore the Jay recommendations.
Jaqui Smith’s Home Office, we now know, memoed police forces effectively telling them to ignore these activities in 2008. Starmer claims he knew nothing until 2012 when he finally took action. Not very plausible – unless you’re a completely blinkered and uncritical Labour loyalist, of course.
If Smith did tell police to ignore these activities then they would presumably not be putting forward much in the way of cases to the CPS for prosecution. So it is plausible that Starmer was unaware of it in the context of being DPP.
Leaving aside whatever Labour did or didn’t do about these disgusting rape gang crimes when last in office, they were in opposition during the 14 years of Tory misrule and did nothing! All of them – Tories, Labour, Liber Democrats – are utterly reprehensible for having failed to address these terrible crimes. Justice has been side-stepped by them all.
Elon Musk needs to calm down and have a nice cuppa.
Calling the German president a tyrant, saying Jess Phillips should be in jail…the guy is elevating overegging the pudding to an art form.
It generates traffic.
That said, Jess Phillips triggers me, too.
If it hadn’t been for Musk this wouldn’t have got into the UK press. Even now Unherd (rancid news outlet) has deflected and span away his accusation against Phillips and Starmer.
Unherd is a political tool.
I’m afraid you’re the tool around here.
Yes. Twitter wasn’t a problem at all when it was used exclusively to promote ruling class narratives about ‘nazis’ and ‘white supremacists’, was it? I think sane people both here and in the US owe Elon a huge debt of gratitude – especially if this topic in particularly finally begins to get an airing after being ruthlessly swept under the rug for at least twenty years.
So nothing will happen. No one held responsible. All criticism of Starmer and Phillips deflected away.
Typical Unherd spin-journalism. Does anyone think like I do that this site is a con?
Unherd – is a lie. It supports the Left-consensus, will deflect criticism, and only has herd-like contributors.
I, too, have pitched unsuccessfully to UnHerd in my time, Dickie. Get over it.
I cannot see why it is Unherd’s fault. They are allowing this forum where we have heard many well thought out views.
With almost every post, it’s becoming more clear that your sole purpose in subscribing and commenting is to seek to undermine Unherd.
I’ll repeat: you’re entitled to do that, but expect pushback from those who value this forum as one of the few places where intelligent yet forthright debate can occur. If you had the slightest interest in such a thing, you’d desist from your constant attacks, but it’s also becoming clear that you’re here for nefarious purposes.
I subscribed, innocently thinking Unherd would be what it advertised itself to me to be. Interesting articles not from the mainstream Left. It is a lie. I am paying money for a lie. It annoys me. So I will continue to call out the news outlet for what it really is: Left-concensus bilge.
If Unherd changed its stupid name to Just-More-Left-Wing-Bilge I would unsubscribe instantly.
Will you unsubscribe anyway? You clearly don’t like the site and your nonsense just clogs up the comment section for the rest of us. I’m sure there’s plenty of sites that just shout buzzwords into a void that would be much more up your alley
I agree that the article is a mere sketch of the controversy, and that overall it gives Starmer and the rest of the ‘gang’ (pun intended) an easy ride. If I had written an article on the same subject I would be punching hard, and as low as possible. It’s a wide open goal and the journalist failed to score. We KNOW KS was head of the CPS at the height of the cover ups. Good gracious, he even has his own specially protected pension from his tenure in the CPS. We have on VIDEO and in PRINT Labour MPs denying, shouting down, and generally deflecting away any talk of Pakistani males openly practicing pedophilia, sadism, extreme misogyny and violent crime. All under the protection of the state. You couldn’t make it up, and yet here we are. So yes, you are right that the article is a bit lightweight and spares the blushes of those who operate Jess Phillips’ strings. However, the value in most online articles IME is the below the line comments, of which some are very educational, many are outspoken and NO ONE pulls any punches. You are among friends below the line on Unherd, you just don’t know it.
I’m not so sure, MJ. The commentators here seem to be pretty disgusted with his antics. It’s perfectly reasonable to disagree with an article here and even thinking of UnHerd as. Left-wing site, while a bit… eccentric…is his right. But the stream of mouth frothing invective and relentless abuse, without ever offering much in the way of analysis, argument or even alternative, gets very tedious indeed.
I think he’s just angry and frustrated, paid some money to subscribe and it’s not quite what he thought.
That’s his own stupid fault then. You can read a set number of articles for free before subscribing so he would have been well aware the articles weren’t simplistic enough for his tastes before handing over hard earned money