“the sole surviving day on which most Britons mark any part of our deepest myth, the Christian story.”
Is it such a myth? Historically there seems a very great deal which is documented. From there we get the Bible, which is to a great deal stories set in that time which have significant meaning, likely happened or were from things said or done, and an amazingly intellectual philosophy which uses it all to create an ethos.
Myth is more like Athena born whole out of Zeus’s head, Asgard, Juggernaut, Stonehenge nu-age ‘Hippies’ in linen robes, with willow staffs and vegan offerings.
I would call Christianity more of a historically based ‘Morality Tale’ and philosophy and Religion of utterly vast cultural and historical and intellectual, uniqueness – primary in the formation of the entire West, and so us, and thus the modern world.
To call Christianity an ‘Deepest Myth’ shows how the modern people have become shallow and very poorly educated, without ability to think beyond platitudes, and reducing all to the simplest analogy. The Twitterising of deep concepts.
I gather you are unfamiliar with the story of C.S. Lewis’s conversion. A decisive step in it was Tolkien’s remark, “Jack, it’s a myth, but it’s also true.”
Respect for myth as a mode of communicating truth is not shallow, nor is it modern, and has of late seemingly required a good education to adopt. Regarding myth as mere untruth is shallow, terribly modern, and very easy to embrace with the sort of miseducation dished out in most quarter of the Anglosphere these days.
David Zersen
2 years ago
The great English heritage of art, music and literature that arose from the events surrounding the birth of Jesus celebrate a reality more profound than myth.
And the basis for your categorical assertion? Were you present at the birth or just personally acquainted with Mary and Joseph?
Dustshoe Richinrut
2 years ago
“Christmas is the sole surviving day on which most Britons mark any part of our deepest myth, the Christian story.”
The interesting part of the above sentence from the piece is “any part of”. That bit seems superfluous. However, what those three little words do do is suggest that most Britons give a nod to all and any of the aspects of the life of Jesus, including his birth and death and rise again, ONLY on Christmas Day. Those three little words seem to convey the impression that any other attendance at church during the year, including at Easter, is completely non-existent for most Britons (pandemic notwithstanding). By “surviving day” I suppose is meant a national holiday. Then, naturally enough, most Britons may be said to mark the day. In that case, “any part of” is a useless phrase to add to the sentence.
There are, thankfully, many Sundays throughout the year, also surviving days, on which, I am sure, most Britons, at some point, attend a church service as, one might say, be expected of them, with Britain being a land dotted with church spires and towers. They … haven’t gone away, you know.
Marcia McGrail
2 years ago
The writer joins hordes of the supremely smug in denouncing Christianity to mythology status. In do so, they perpetuate the fallacy of begging the question. Not a logical position to fire slings and arrows at a minority whose Biblical beliefs founded the major tenets of the very social order on which you stand.
Mythology doesn’t simply mean ‘untrue’ – that is an imputed negative meaning.
However, there is not a scintilla of evidence for, the factual ‘truth’ of the key tenets of Christianity, certainly not that the ‘Son of God’ was born of a virgin, any more than the Greek myths, Islam etc.
He’s not to be looked to as a theological source, but N.T. Wright is looked to as a major historian. Your “not a scintilla” know – it – allism might be given quite a challenge by his book, The Resurrection of the Son of God.”
John Murison
2 years ago
Spot on. What a brilliant posting for Christmas Day.
I think that came from a Chinese Fortune Cookie, so add more from a quick search, that we many have more to ponder on:
“**_The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make a friend. **_He who expects no gratitude shall never be disappointed. **_We must always have old memories and young hopes. **_ People learn little from success, but much from failure. **_ Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain. **_Big journeys begin with a single step. **_One that would have the fruit must climb the tree. **_Success lies in the hands of those who wants it. **_The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness. **_Hardly anyone knows how much is gained by ignoring the future. **_If you want the rainbow, you have to tolerate the rain. **_A ship in harbor is safe, but that’s not why ships are built.”
Unherd, I think your next dozen articles are listed right above…..
P.S., sorry, writer, to be so snide, but reducing Christianity to a popular myth, and on Christmas, is a bit OTT.
“the sole surviving day on which most Britons mark any part of our deepest myth, the Christian story.”
Is it such a myth? Historically there seems a very great deal which is documented. From there we get the Bible, which is to a great deal stories set in that time which have significant meaning, likely happened or were from things said or done, and an amazingly intellectual philosophy which uses it all to create an ethos.
Myth is more like Athena born whole out of Zeus’s head, Asgard, Juggernaut, Stonehenge nu-age ‘Hippies’ in linen robes, with willow staffs and vegan offerings.
I would call Christianity more of a historically based ‘Morality Tale’ and philosophy and Religion of utterly vast cultural and historical and intellectual, uniqueness – primary in the formation of the entire West, and so us, and thus the modern world.
To call Christianity an ‘Deepest Myth’ shows how the modern people have become shallow and very poorly educated, without ability to think beyond platitudes, and reducing all to the simplest analogy. The Twitterising of deep concepts.
I gather you are unfamiliar with the story of C.S. Lewis’s conversion. A decisive step in it was Tolkien’s remark, “Jack, it’s a myth, but it’s also true.”
Respect for myth as a mode of communicating truth is not shallow, nor is it modern, and has of late seemingly required a good education to adopt. Regarding myth as mere untruth is shallow, terribly modern, and very easy to embrace with the sort of miseducation dished out in most quarter of the Anglosphere these days.
The great English heritage of art, music and literature that arose from the events surrounding the birth of Jesus celebrate a reality more profound than myth.
No it is not, it is not true, Jesus was not born of a virgin etc, so the best that can be said of it, is that it is a myth.
And the basis for your categorical assertion? Were you present at the birth or just personally acquainted with Mary and Joseph?
“Christmas is the sole surviving day on which most Britons mark any part of our deepest myth, the Christian story.”
The interesting part of the above sentence from the piece is “any part of”. That bit seems superfluous. However, what those three little words do do is suggest that most Britons give a nod to all and any of the aspects of the life of Jesus, including his birth and death and rise again, ONLY on Christmas Day. Those three little words seem to convey the impression that any other attendance at church during the year, including at Easter, is completely non-existent for most Britons (pandemic notwithstanding). By “surviving day” I suppose is meant a national holiday. Then, naturally enough, most Britons may be said to mark the day. In that case, “any part of” is a useless phrase to add to the sentence.
There are, thankfully, many Sundays throughout the year, also surviving days, on which, I am sure, most Britons, at some point, attend a church service as, one might say, be expected of them, with Britain being a land dotted with church spires and towers. They … haven’t gone away, you know.
The writer joins hordes of the supremely smug in denouncing Christianity to mythology status. In do so, they perpetuate the fallacy of begging the question. Not a logical position to fire slings and arrows at a minority whose Biblical beliefs founded the major tenets of the very social order on which you stand.
Mythology doesn’t simply mean ‘untrue’ – that is an imputed negative meaning.
However, there is not a scintilla of evidence for, the factual ‘truth’ of the key tenets of Christianity, certainly not that the ‘Son of God’ was born of a virgin, any more than the Greek myths, Islam etc.
He’s not to be looked to as a theological source, but N.T. Wright is looked to as a major historian. Your “not a scintilla” know – it – allism might be given quite a challenge by his book, The Resurrection of the Son of God.”
Spot on. What a brilliant posting for Christmas Day.
“Not all myths are created equal, however;”
I think that came from a Chinese Fortune Cookie, so add more from a quick search, that we many have more to ponder on:
“**_The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make a friend.
**_He who expects no gratitude shall never be disappointed.
**_We must always have old memories and young hopes.
**_ People learn little from success, but much from failure.
**_ Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain.
**_Big journeys begin with a single step.
**_One that would have the fruit must climb the tree.
**_Success lies in the hands of those who wants it.
**_The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness.
**_Hardly anyone knows how much is gained by ignoring the future.
**_If you want the rainbow, you have to tolerate the rain.
**_A ship in harbor is safe, but that’s not why ships are built.”
Unherd, I think your next dozen articles are listed right above…..
P.S., sorry, writer, to be so snide, but reducing Christianity to a popular myth, and on Christmas, is a bit OTT.