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Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

“Black Mirror”. We are there.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

“Black Mirror”. We are there.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

“Unarmed machines also pose less of a threat to a suspect than a nervous or angry human police officer with a gun.”
Because the last thing we want is for a suspect to feel a threat. 

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

But if they’re already running over toddlers, are they truly less of a threat? Do we want to give a machine a gun where it might shoot someone because of a technical glitch? I think there is a role for these devices in law enforcement, but there should be some pretty hard limits imposed.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

But if they’re already running over toddlers, are they truly less of a threat? Do we want to give a machine a gun where it might shoot someone because of a technical glitch? I think there is a role for these devices in law enforcement, but there should be some pretty hard limits imposed.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Jolly
Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

“Unarmed machines also pose less of a threat to a suspect than a nervous or angry human police officer with a gun.”
Because the last thing we want is for a suspect to feel a threat. 

David Kingsworthy
David Kingsworthy
1 year ago

I for one welcome our new robot dog overlords.

David Kingsworthy
David Kingsworthy
1 year ago

I for one welcome our new robot dog overlords.

james elliott
james elliott
1 year ago

If ever there was a perfect tool to impose Fascism and a Totalitarian nightmare on a society…… it is programmable robots as a police force.

Stop this madness immediately.

james elliott
james elliott
1 year ago

If ever there was a perfect tool to impose Fascism and a Totalitarian nightmare on a society…… it is programmable robots as a police force.

Stop this madness immediately.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

one robot has the IQ of every ‘ pleeceman” in Britain- some of the thickest people in the nation.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

one robot has the IQ of every ‘ pleeceman” in Britain- some of the thickest people in the nation.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

The device shooting a GPS tracker into a fleeing vehicle sounds useful. I can’t see the problem in the police using a surveillance device to check out potential criminal activity whether in the form of a dog or other device. Perhaps someone can explain why it is sinister.

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Feature creep? I would agree that we need strict regulation; we have a danger of going too rapidly down the ED-209 path. (The misuse of surveillance data is a separate issue).
Get worried if the captchas start changing such that instead of training self-driving cars, we’re being asked to ‘select the person carrying a gun’.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Like any tool, including firearms, it can be used for good or for bad. I think some of the angst over robots and AI is irrational fear of new technology. One can go back and find similar fears of things like the steam engine, the automobile, etc. What we should really worry about is what unscrupulous greedy or power hungry people will use these things to do. That, I think, is where the fear is legitimate.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

…..unscrupulous greedy or power hungry people…..You mean “Politicians?”.

Robert Kaye
Robert Kaye
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

“One can go back and find similar fears of things like the steam engine, the automobile, etc.”

Yes, it’s not as though automobile would go on to lead to millions of deaths.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Kaye

Touche. Well played sir.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Kaye

Touche. Well played sir.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

…..unscrupulous greedy or power hungry people…..You mean “Politicians?”.

Robert Kaye
Robert Kaye
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Jolly

“One can go back and find similar fears of things like the steam engine, the automobile, etc.”

Yes, it’s not as though automobile would go on to lead to millions of deaths.

Tom Condray
Tom Condray
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

There is the kernel of an answer within your question:

How can we be sure robots “shooting a GPS tracker” hit their target, and not an innocent bystander? And, should it happen, who is responsible?

Andrew Holmes
Andrew Holmes
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Condray

I’m compelled to comment that the perfect is the enemy of the good.

Andrew Holmes
Andrew Holmes
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Condray

I’m compelled to comment that the perfect is the enemy of the good.

Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Feature creep? I would agree that we need strict regulation; we have a danger of going too rapidly down the ED-209 path. (The misuse of surveillance data is a separate issue).
Get worried if the captchas start changing such that instead of training self-driving cars, we’re being asked to ‘select the person carrying a gun’.

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Like any tool, including firearms, it can be used for good or for bad. I think some of the angst over robots and AI is irrational fear of new technology. One can go back and find similar fears of things like the steam engine, the automobile, etc. What we should really worry about is what unscrupulous greedy or power hungry people will use these things to do. That, I think, is where the fear is legitimate.

Tom Condray
Tom Condray
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

There is the kernel of an answer within your question:

How can we be sure robots “shooting a GPS tracker” hit their target, and not an innocent bystander? And, should it happen, who is responsible?

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

The device shooting a GPS tracker into a fleeing vehicle sounds useful. I can’t see the problem in the police using a surveillance device to check out potential criminal activity whether in the form of a dog or other device. Perhaps someone can explain why it is sinister.