I really feel your pain. Leading worship singing online is really not the same at all, when no one joins in….
Robin Lambert
3 years ago
Mystic Meg has more validity on the future than Certain imperial college scientists as seen on SARS2 Zika CJd Climate change fanatics. Not just MSM is a turn off but Science needs to be seen as a force for good not hijacked by the Wuhan “research”laboratory or failure of WHO and Bill Gates of hell to validate real deaths in Chinese cities
Peter KE
3 years ago
Let’s hope Donald Trump the USA President is given respect as a good leader. The scum of the deep state need to be dispatched along with the democrats party for all their misdeeds. The USA & UK need to take urgent action against their respective deep states. Good luck Boris Johnson.
Barry Faith
3 years ago
A trend is a trend – – until it bends – – -.
Peter KE
3 years ago
Yes, let’s have some ordinary life. Dump the pseudo science and get back to our ordinary lives. The pseudo scientist ( professor & doctors they maybe) are pathetic.
Peter KE
3 years ago
Let us hope this nonsense ends soon, our churches should be open now.
Michael Whittock
3 years ago
I want to shout (if not sing) an Hallelujah for this article. Thankyou. 1. My experience has been that singing during online services is possible and better than nothing. However you don’t get the full blessing of worshipping as part of a Christian gathering,but it can be very uplifting. Nonetheless I do hanker after the full works like you. 2. Singing has always been integral to Christian worship. The amazing reservoir of music available to the world today would be sadly depleted if it were not so. 3. Christians have got plenty to sing about not least the gift of the Holy Spirit whose coming we celebrate this Pentecost Sunday. We believe the Holy Spirit inspires our singing and through it enables us to experience the reality of God so that we know the joy,love and grace of His Presence. 4. From time to time God sends the Holy Spirit to revive and renew the Church in its life and mission to the world and this invariably includes a burst of new creativity in worship music. The hymns of Samuel Wesley in the 18th.century and the songs of Moody and Sankey in the 19th. century are examples of that. In our day wherever there are signs of revival and renewal fresh music and singing for worship blossoms. Some examples of this are written and performed by Hillsong, Elevation Worship and Belonging Co.
Richard Pinch
3 years ago
Heffernan is quoted as saying “Take, for instance, the 2013 prediction by researchers at the Oxford Martin School that “by 2035, 35% of jobs will have been taken by machines”. ” The report from the Martin School linked to makes no such prediction, and indeed explicitly says “We make no attempt to estimate the number of jobs that will actually be automated, and focus on potential job automatability over some unspecified number of years. According to our estimates around 47 percent of total US employment is in the high risk category.”. In fact, what Heffernan attributed to the Martin School was a figure of 47%. So Heffernan badly misrepresented the Martin School, and this article misquotes her misquotation.
Sheryl Rhodes
3 years ago
I have a real grief over the fact that singing, both in church and in any group setting, is going to be off the table for an indefinite period of time. Like you, I am moved by singing in church, sometimes to the point of tears. Singing is also my only social hobby; one I have been desperately cultivating over the past two years—turns out that it’s not easy for a modestly talented middle aged woman to find singing partners or casual choral groups. Singing harmony with others turns my whole body into some kind of tuning fork that hums with joy; I could do it for hours and never tire.
JR Stoker
3 years ago
A very thoughtful and civilised article, thank you.
Though what is so fabulous about the name Archibald Davison? Am I missing something obvious….?
Emily Crews
3 years ago
Thanks so much for your article. Greater advocacy’s required from the Church, which is, at present, not showing signs of sticking up for its choirs. My son was a Chorister until COVID panic remodelled our entire society. Nobody has asked us what we feel about risk, nobody has sought our views. We do zoom singing sessions, but that is not choir. A tradition is in danger of being lost, based on the flawed “science” behind the lockdown.
A note on the photograph: aside from the hairstyles, this could be a cathedral choir today. Those children work very very hard- we can’t drop this, picking it up a couple of years later, and expect it to be in the least bit as good. This lockdown is burning through everything we hold dear.
Richard Pinch
3 years ago
The author says “Heffernan was also spot-on to praise the superforecasters” and also “The false certainty about our ability to predict something as complex as human behaviour ““ … ““ certainly now looks tragic.” These statements don’t appear to be consistent.
I really feel your pain. Leading worship singing online is really not the same at all, when no one joins in….
Mystic Meg has more validity on the future than Certain imperial college scientists as seen on SARS2 Zika CJd Climate change fanatics. Not just MSM is a turn off but Science needs to be seen as a force for good not hijacked by the Wuhan “research”laboratory or failure of WHO and Bill Gates of hell to validate real deaths in Chinese cities
Let’s hope Donald Trump the USA President is given respect as a good leader. The scum of the deep state need to be dispatched along with the democrats party for all their misdeeds. The USA & UK need to take urgent action against their respective deep states. Good luck Boris Johnson.
A trend is a trend – – until it bends – – -.
Yes, let’s have some ordinary life. Dump the pseudo science and get back to our ordinary lives. The pseudo scientist ( professor & doctors they maybe) are pathetic.
Let us hope this nonsense ends soon, our churches should be open now.
I want to shout (if not sing) an Hallelujah for this article. Thankyou.
1. My experience has been that singing during online services is possible and better than nothing. However you don’t get the full blessing of worshipping as part of a Christian gathering,but it can be very uplifting. Nonetheless I do hanker after the full works like you.
2. Singing has always been integral to Christian worship. The amazing reservoir of music available to the world today would be sadly depleted if it were not so.
3. Christians have got plenty to sing about not least the gift of the Holy Spirit whose coming we celebrate this Pentecost Sunday. We believe the Holy Spirit inspires our singing and through it enables us to experience the reality of God so that we know the joy,love and grace of His Presence.
4. From time to time God sends the Holy Spirit to revive and renew the Church in its life and mission to the world and this invariably includes a burst of new creativity in worship music. The hymns of Samuel Wesley in the 18th.century and the songs of Moody and Sankey in the 19th. century are examples of that. In our day wherever there are signs of revival and renewal fresh music and singing for worship blossoms. Some examples of this are written and performed by Hillsong, Elevation Worship and Belonging Co.
Heffernan is quoted as saying “Take, for instance, the 2013 prediction by researchers at the Oxford Martin School that “by 2035, 35% of jobs will have been taken by machines”. ” The report from the Martin School linked to makes no such prediction, and indeed explicitly says “We make no attempt to estimate the number of jobs that will actually be automated, and focus on potential job automatability over some unspecified number of years. According to our estimates around 47 percent of total US employment is in the high risk category.”. In fact, what Heffernan attributed to the Martin School was a figure of 47%. So Heffernan badly misrepresented the Martin School, and this article misquotes her misquotation.
I have a real grief over the fact that singing, both in church and in any group setting, is going to be off the table for an indefinite period of time. Like you, I am moved by singing in church, sometimes to the point of tears. Singing is also my only social hobby; one I have been desperately cultivating over the past two years—turns out that it’s not easy for a modestly talented middle aged woman to find singing partners or casual choral groups. Singing harmony with others turns my whole body into some kind of tuning fork that hums with joy; I could do it for hours and never tire.
A very thoughtful and civilised article, thank you.
Though what is so fabulous about the name Archibald Davison? Am I missing something obvious….?
Thanks so much for your article. Greater advocacy’s required from the Church, which is, at present, not showing signs of sticking up for its choirs. My son was a Chorister until COVID panic remodelled our entire society. Nobody has asked us what we feel about risk, nobody has sought our views. We do zoom singing sessions, but that is not choir. A tradition is in danger of being lost, based on the flawed “science” behind the lockdown.
A note on the photograph: aside from the hairstyles, this could be a cathedral choir today. Those children work very very hard- we can’t drop this, picking it up a couple of years later, and expect it to be in the least bit as good. This lockdown is burning through everything we hold dear.
The author says “Heffernan was also spot-on to praise the superforecasters” and also “The false certainty about our ability to predict something as complex as human behaviour ““ … ““ certainly now looks tragic.” These statements don’t appear to be consistent.