I would like to think that the author is merely deluded.
Globalism is very real. This is not about a future filled with bijou farms producing artisan food stuffs for the tables of the chattering classes. This is about the greatest transfer of wealth and property to a select few in recorded history. Why not read what the World Economic Forum have had to say about the Great Reset on their own website for the past two years.
Impoverished farmers the world over will be forced not to down–size but to sell their land to conglomerates — or Bill Gates — in the interests of “sustainability”.
It is The Grapes of Wrath all over again but this time around we are being told that we will be happy about it.
The deliberately dismissive tone of the piece put me in mind of something by an intern at The Guardian or the BBC — hence my gander taking a markedly upward turn.
This subtitled clip of parliamentarian Gideon Van Meijeren confronting prime minister Mark Rutte on his glowing review of Schwab’s book, The Great Reset, has been circulating for over a year now.
And this clip of Mark Rutte recieving the first “Global Citizen” award from Klaus Schwab on the tenth anniversary of the Atlantic Council is almost three years old.
Frankly anyone who does not look at current events in the Netherlands and see parallels with, say, Justin Castro’s response to the Canadian truck drivers convoy last Winter must have their head firmly in their fundament.
Having read a few of Aris’ pieces now, he seems most of the time to be talking out of his aris. His writing is indeed strangely reminiscent of a Guardian intern. In his piece today he dismisses ‘The Great Reset’ as a conspiracy theory, whereas Schwab has openly written about it, and talked about it on video, as you say. I think Aris should move on from Unherd, with all respect. It’s not a forum for globalists of the left.
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
It’s not so much the outcome, but the process of decision-making that is crucial to implementing policy. When policies are dished out without first consulting those it directly impacts, people start to dig their heels in.
Matt M
1 year ago
The problem is one of democracy. If you wish to impose this sort of disruption to your citizen’s lives: work out and cost the plan, open it to public discussion and then hold a referendum. If it passes, implement it. If it doesn’t scrap the idea (for at least 25 years).
But don’t just marshal the elites against the farmers (or whoever it might be next). There is a name for that type of behaviour…
Last edited 1 year ago by Matt M
Will Will
1 year ago
if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Since WW2 the Dutch have done a marvellous job including using technology in delivering fantastic living standards for their population. I am extremely sceptical about any and all changes that prima facie smack of Ludditism.
Paula 0
1 year ago
How would farmers be paid any more by raising fewer animals on wider areas of land? Through billions of Euro in E.U. subsidies? How long will that last?
I am glad that the author supports better wages for farmers from Agribusiness concerns. That said, those are a lot of tractors in the pictures, representing real farmers and real livelihoods.
How are these farmers going to survive, with fewer animals and paying somehow? for more? land, that is somehow? available to them?
What biodiversity has been lost? Half, more or less, of Holland, was dredged from the sea. For an apparently biodiversity-poor nation, the country is singularly beautiful. One knows when one is in Holland.
It is also pretty great that it is an economic powerhouse, and that I, in Germany, can eat fantastic Dutch eggs and Dutch pork, and lovely Dutch tomatoes.
If smaller farms can keep Holland’s economy strong, and food arriving to neighboring countries, without subsidies that keep them dependent on the E.U. treat, then give us your plan.
Where is your plan on which other countries won’t use exploitative Agribusiness concerns, and provide the amount and quality of food that Holland does?
Isn’t it sad that Holland has to deal with all these challenges, armed only with scientists and engineers it trains in its universities, and with Dutch farmers and workers who are hard-working,, creative, industrious and proud? Who are also able to export to the world it’s scientific knowledge, including how to deal with rising waters threatening land?
Better to just whine and ask for subsidies, so farms are larger, somehow more biodiverse, and magically feeding more people, right? That will happen. And the E.U. will magically have the money for subsidies despite fewer taxes from fewer Dutch exports and less global consumption of the fruits of their labor.
Because of course, it can be done better, and not by Agribusiness, somewhere else, if not by larger farms and fewer animals in Holland and E.U. subsidies. Forget Dutch innovation, pride in country and labor. Let Holland grow weak, sucking on the E.U. treat. The magic treat, whose subsidies will never run dry, if people give up their ability to supply food, on their magically bigger farms.
*substitute another word for treat, as otherwise this needs moderation.
Just because you can point to ‘Holland Exceptionalism’ as a version of reality doesn’t mean that the mode in which it is operating won’t ultimately come crashing down. A system not in harmony with the reality of nature is ultimately a conception incompatible with nature. We can kick the van down the road only so long. Course correction is needed and clear seeing is its antecedent.
Which right-wing commentators are you talking about? The ability of farmers to produce food really shouldn’t be a Left/Right issue. Especially during a cost-of-living crisis. Especially with a global food-shortage caused by the war in Ukraine. Really Aris, how do you suppose we solve global supply issues and unsure Russian defeat while we are obsessed with destroying our productive capacity in the name of net zero?
Dave Smith
1 year ago
This is certainly a new light on the matter. However the problem is deeper than this. I feel we are now so mistrustful of the state that it no longer commands our loyalty or cooperation. The Dutch are just like the Canadians and us in that respect. The Western democracies wrecked the consent needed by using lockdowns to increase their powers.
I have no faith in anything the British government proposes . That has gone and will not return .
David Willem
1 year ago
You’re very correct in assessing the problem of intensive farming. However, the farmers themselves keep saying that they very much understand the problem and are open to change. This is more about the government refusing to acknowledge the models they’re using are wrong, even when pointed out by their own scientists. Farmers that did adapt to the rural ideal are being told to lose just as much as those that did not because of it. It’s also more about the Rabobank (the bank of every farmer) refusing to cut debts, thus giving no way out either. Last but not least there is the widespread fear that the removal of farmlands won’t give way to more organic widespread farms but to housing and asylum centers. At least one local Frisian government already put it in black and white that they’ll use appropriated farmland for just that. There are certainly elements of conspiratorial thinking in the farmer’s movement, both national and international, but the vast amount of language used in the country is about those specific fears and issues.
This has pretty much been my understanding of what’s going on in the Netherlands too.
Peter B
1 year ago
Forgive me asking, but how exactly is “pursuing maximum efficiency” “unsustainable” ? It is easy to claim that something you dislike is “unsustainable”. Yet there is zero evidence in this article for this claim ? One might also claim that Dutch land reclamation is “unsustainable”. But they’ve made it work. And will no doubt continue to do so even if the sea level rises a few metres. Shouldn’t we actually celebrate the fact that in the inefficient and corrupt world of the CAP, the Dutch actually are efficient and self-sufficient in food ? Isn’t this a good thing ? I suspect that the future of farming actually involves more technology and intensive techniques (quite possibly with more synthetically produced proteins and fewer livestock). I would be very surprised if turning the clock back provides the solutions. The whole article seems to rest on a naive assumption that big businesses are somehow evil and small farms good.
James Cordwell
1 year ago
This article is plainly wrong! The World Economic Forum (WEF) with the UN Agenda 2030 has utterly destroyed a once prosperous nation, Sri Lanka. A land once brimming with tourism and food, now has neither. It lost its food production due to Green Policies, lauded by the WEF, by banning nitrogen and moving to GMO Seeds etc, and now the nation is bankrupt. The WEF has even removed its earlier praise from its website. Now the WEF and the UN have moved on to the Netherlands.
Dutch farmers have been given 7 years to achieve what other businesses would take decades to do, perhaps 50 years to achieve. They have already, through better feeding methods cut Nitrogen use and reduced ammonia output hugely, but to be asked for further reductions of 50% to 90% over seven years is ridiculous. Would banks ever be asked to do something so quickly? What business could react to changing policy that quickly?
The thing is, it’s impossible and it’s meant to be. Rutte has agreed to be a World Food Innovation Hub and a Global Coordinating Secretariat, passing this nonsense all over the world. It’s a disgrace and Rutte is in the pocket of the WEF!
The Dutch farmers will be decimated at a time of World wide food crisis, it’s insane?
However, the plan IS for it to fail. The plan is for global corporations or madmen like Bill Gates to step in to buy the land cheaply. All part of the WEF’s Great RESET. When will the world’s populations say NO to this huge transfer of power and wealth???
Last edited 1 year ago by James Cordwell
ken rogers
1 year ago
This has WEF written all over it. I think the farmers are well within their rights to fight back against this obvious globalist ploy
Alan Hughes
1 year ago
The Dutch experience has been the exact opposite of the regenerative agriculture we need. The author is correct that this has been handled badly by the government but also correct that the rebels here are not simple farmers but high-intensity agribusinesses. We may have benefitted from cheap food but we have wasted and abused this change and it was never going to be sustainable. We still need to find our way to sustainable mixed farming; we should not let our dislike of state intervention cloud us to real problems when they exist.
Excuse me, it is extremely sustainable in Holland. Holland has a long history of applying science and engineering to generate prosperity while maintaining a landscape they dredged from the sea. They have skin in the game. I have read stories how designers work to make humane conditions for animal husbandry. They are smart and capable, and they provide food beyond their borders.
Who do you want in charge? Who has the know how and whose country is as pollution free and livable as Holland’s, with a prosperous economy?
Where is food supposed to come from? Where is this magic place where farmers do not sell to collective Agribusiness?
Explain where Euro billion subsidies will come from, if the economy is decimated, which generates the taxes to pay those subsidies, please. Fewer animals on magically larger farms paid for by magic E.U. subsidies will not provide the innovation and surplus generated by Dutch people, who have always worked for a livable and prosperous nation.
“Real problems” = providing enough food at prices people can afford with security of supply.
It looks to me like the Dutch farmers today are definitely part of the solution and not the problem.
This is all driven by naive political agendas.
I would like to think that the author is merely deluded.
Globalism is very real. This is not about a future filled with bijou farms producing artisan food stuffs for the tables of the chattering classes. This is about the greatest transfer of wealth and property to a select few in recorded history.
Why not read what the World Economic Forum have had to say about the Great Reset on their own website for the past two years.
Impoverished farmers the world over will be forced not to down–size but to sell their land to conglomerates — or Bill Gates — in the interests of “sustainability”.
It is The Grapes of Wrath all over again but this time around we are being told that we will be happy about it.
It’s disappointing from Aris. He’s usually a lot more thorough in his analysis. His lack of any reference to the role of ghe WEF tells us everything.
The deliberately dismissive tone of the piece put me in mind of something by an intern at The Guardian or the BBC — hence my gander taking a markedly upward turn.
This subtitled clip of parliamentarian Gideon Van Meijeren confronting prime minister Mark Rutte on his glowing review of Schwab’s book, The Great Reset, has been circulating for over a year now.
And this clip of Mark Rutte recieving the first “Global Citizen” award from Klaus Schwab on the tenth anniversary of the Atlantic Council is almost three years old.
Frankly anyone who does not look at current events in the Netherlands and see parallels with, say, Justin Castro’s response to the Canadian truck drivers convoy last Winter must have their head firmly in their fundament.
Having read a few of Aris’ pieces now, he seems most of the time to be talking out of his aris. His writing is indeed strangely reminiscent of a Guardian intern. In his piece today he dismisses ‘The Great Reset’ as a conspiracy theory, whereas Schwab has openly written about it, and talked about it on video, as you say. I think Aris should move on from Unherd, with all respect. It’s not a forum for globalists of the left.
It’s not so much the outcome, but the process of decision-making that is crucial to implementing policy. When policies are dished out without first consulting those it directly impacts, people start to dig their heels in.
The problem is one of democracy. If you wish to impose this sort of disruption to your citizen’s lives: work out and cost the plan, open it to public discussion and then hold a referendum. If it passes, implement it. If it doesn’t scrap the idea (for at least 25 years).
But don’t just marshal the elites against the farmers (or whoever it might be next). There is a name for that type of behaviour…
if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Since WW2 the Dutch have done a marvellous job including using technology in delivering fantastic living standards for their population. I am extremely sceptical about any and all changes that prima facie smack of Ludditism.
How would farmers be paid any more by raising fewer animals on wider areas of land? Through billions of Euro in E.U. subsidies? How long will that last?
I am glad that the author supports better wages for farmers from Agribusiness concerns. That said, those are a lot of tractors in the pictures, representing real farmers and real livelihoods.
How are these farmers going to survive, with fewer animals and paying somehow? for more? land, that is somehow? available to them?
What biodiversity has been lost? Half, more or less, of Holland, was dredged from the sea. For an apparently biodiversity-poor nation, the country is singularly beautiful. One knows when one is in Holland.
It is also pretty great that it is an economic powerhouse, and that I, in Germany, can eat fantastic Dutch eggs and Dutch pork, and lovely Dutch tomatoes.
If smaller farms can keep Holland’s economy strong, and food arriving to neighboring countries, without subsidies that keep them dependent on the E.U. treat, then give us your plan.
Where is your plan on which other countries won’t use exploitative Agribusiness concerns, and provide the amount and quality of food that Holland does?
Isn’t it sad that Holland has to deal with all these challenges, armed only with scientists and engineers it trains in its universities, and with Dutch farmers and workers who are hard-working,, creative, industrious and proud? Who are also able to export to the world it’s scientific knowledge, including how to deal with rising waters threatening land?
Better to just whine and ask for subsidies, so farms are larger, somehow more biodiverse, and magically feeding more people, right? That will happen. And the E.U. will magically have the money for subsidies despite fewer taxes from fewer Dutch exports and less global consumption of the fruits of their labor.
Because of course, it can be done better, and not by Agribusiness, somewhere else, if not by larger farms and fewer animals in Holland and E.U. subsidies. Forget Dutch innovation, pride in country and labor. Let Holland grow weak, sucking on the E.U. treat. The magic treat, whose subsidies will never run dry, if people give up their ability to supply food, on their magically bigger farms.
*substitute another word for treat, as otherwise this needs moderation.
Just because you can point to ‘Holland Exceptionalism’ as a version of reality doesn’t mean that the mode in which it is operating won’t ultimately come crashing down. A system not in harmony with the reality of nature is ultimately a conception incompatible with nature. We can kick the van down the road only so long. Course correction is needed and clear seeing is its antecedent.
Your own “version of reality” is what the rest of us call Totalitarianism.
Well, with the price of fuel being what it is…
E.U. teat. As in udder.
Which right-wing commentators are you talking about? The ability of farmers to produce food really shouldn’t be a Left/Right issue. Especially during a cost-of-living crisis. Especially with a global food-shortage caused by the war in Ukraine. Really Aris, how do you suppose we solve global supply issues and unsure Russian defeat while we are obsessed with destroying our productive capacity in the name of net zero?
This is certainly a new light on the matter. However the problem is deeper than this. I feel we are now so mistrustful of the state that it no longer commands our loyalty or cooperation. The Dutch are just like the Canadians and us in that respect. The Western democracies wrecked the consent needed by using lockdowns to increase their powers.
I have no faith in anything the British government proposes . That has gone and will not return .
You’re very correct in assessing the problem of intensive farming. However, the farmers themselves keep saying that they very much understand the problem and are open to change. This is more about the government refusing to acknowledge the models they’re using are wrong, even when pointed out by their own scientists. Farmers that did adapt to the rural ideal are being told to lose just as much as those that did not because of it. It’s also more about the Rabobank (the bank of every farmer) refusing to cut debts, thus giving no way out either. Last but not least there is the widespread fear that the removal of farmlands won’t give way to more organic widespread farms but to housing and asylum centers. At least one local Frisian government already put it in black and white that they’ll use appropriated farmland for just that. There are certainly elements of conspiratorial thinking in the farmer’s movement, both national and international, but the vast amount of language used in the country is about those specific fears and issues.
This has pretty much been my understanding of what’s going on in the Netherlands too.
Forgive me asking, but how exactly is “pursuing maximum efficiency” “unsustainable” ? It is easy to claim that something you dislike is “unsustainable”. Yet there is zero evidence in this article for this claim ?
One might also claim that Dutch land reclamation is “unsustainable”. But they’ve made it work. And will no doubt continue to do so even if the sea level rises a few metres.
Shouldn’t we actually celebrate the fact that in the inefficient and corrupt world of the CAP, the Dutch actually are efficient and self-sufficient in food ? Isn’t this a good thing ?
I suspect that the future of farming actually involves more technology and intensive techniques (quite possibly with more synthetically produced proteins and fewer livestock). I would be very surprised if turning the clock back provides the solutions.
The whole article seems to rest on a naive assumption that big businesses are somehow evil and small farms good.
This article is plainly wrong! The World Economic Forum (WEF) with the UN Agenda 2030 has utterly destroyed a once prosperous nation, Sri Lanka. A land once brimming with tourism and food, now has neither. It lost its food production due to Green Policies, lauded by the WEF, by banning nitrogen and moving to GMO Seeds etc, and now the nation is bankrupt. The WEF has even removed its earlier praise from its website. Now the WEF and the UN have moved on to the Netherlands.
Dutch farmers have been given 7 years to achieve what other businesses would take decades to do, perhaps 50 years to achieve. They have already, through better feeding methods cut Nitrogen use and reduced ammonia output hugely, but to be asked for further reductions of 50% to 90% over seven years is ridiculous. Would banks ever be asked to do something so quickly? What business could react to changing policy that quickly?
The thing is, it’s impossible and it’s meant to be. Rutte has agreed to be a World Food Innovation Hub and a Global Coordinating Secretariat, passing this nonsense all over the world. It’s a disgrace and Rutte is in the pocket of the WEF!
The Dutch farmers will be decimated at a time of World wide food crisis, it’s insane?
However, the plan IS for it to fail. The plan is for global corporations or madmen like Bill Gates to step in to buy the land cheaply. All part of the WEF’s Great RESET. When will the world’s populations say NO to this huge transfer of power and wealth???
This has WEF written all over it. I think the farmers are well within their rights to fight back against this obvious globalist ploy
The Dutch experience has been the exact opposite of the regenerative agriculture we need. The author is correct that this has been handled badly by the government but also correct that the rebels here are not simple farmers but high-intensity agribusinesses. We may have benefitted from cheap food but we have wasted and abused this change and it was never going to be sustainable. We still need to find our way to sustainable mixed farming; we should not let our dislike of state intervention cloud us to real problems when they exist.
Excuse me, it is extremely sustainable in Holland. Holland has a long history of applying science and engineering to generate prosperity while maintaining a landscape they dredged from the sea. They have skin in the game. I have read stories how designers work to make humane conditions for animal husbandry. They are smart and capable, and they provide food beyond their borders.
Who do you want in charge? Who has the know how and whose country is as pollution free and livable as Holland’s, with a prosperous economy?
Where is food supposed to come from? Where is this magic place where farmers do not sell to collective Agribusiness?
Explain where Euro billion subsidies will come from, if the economy is decimated, which generates the taxes to pay those subsidies, please. Fewer animals on magically larger farms paid for by magic E.U. subsidies will not provide the innovation and surplus generated by Dutch people, who have always worked for a livable and prosperous nation.
“Real problems” = providing enough food at prices people can afford with security of supply.
It looks to me like the Dutch farmers today are definitely part of the solution and not the problem.
This is all driven by naive political agendas.