The term far-right is I think thrown around a little too broadly in this article. Some of the parties named as such are hardly conservative by many standards. Fidesz itself seems more nationalistic than anything else.
Agreed. Our political discourse would benefit greatly from more precise use of language. This tendency among the commentariat is lazy at best and more often used to insinuate an underlying bias.
I’ve been saying for ages (on Unherd and elsewhere) that we should never forget that the terms “left” and “right” in politics are metaphors. We should, ideally, stop using them and debate the content of particular policies.
I just automatically convert the term “ far-Right” to “the Peter Shore bit of the Labour Party”.
Allons Enfants
3 years ago
Quite amusing musings from Faludy.
As others already pointed out, the terminology (“far right”, “post-fascist” “hard right” etc.) is grossly inaccurate, i’m not sure why Unherd is sticking with that bigoted vernacular.
Yes, Jobbik (the actual far right, antisemitic / antiroma party of occasionally paramilitant activities) has indeed horseshoed itself into an awkward brotherly embrace with the frazzled ragtag bunch of socialist / farleft / liberal oppositional particles, just for opposition’s sake. And there they shall remain, in opposition.
As for Fidesz, i think it wasn’t quite a bad move to ditch the EPP at last. I would probably vouch for the ID to join, both Salvini and Le Pen are in strong ascendency with well-established impeccable credentials. Then again, i don’t know much about the ECR – but if PiS is already in there, it might be better for all concerned to increase ID’s might with Fidesz’s joining.
I wish Hír TV would put English subtitles on their programmes, as there’s absolutely zero credible reporting on Hungary in the Anglophone press/media.
Fidesz-controlled media
What piffle. The media in Hungary is quite probably the most diverse in Europe in terms of party/political affiliations. Much of it in fact has remained in the old-regime comrades’ backyards, ever since 1989.
Thanks, Simon!
Had to look the columnist up – and alas, my suspicion was correct, he’s a grandson of one of my favourite Hungarian authors, György Faludy. Sometimes the apple falls a tad afar from the tree, so to speak…
On the note of “Jobbik” – the only one thing i like about them is their choice of name: it’s a wordplay; in Hungarian “right” (~ hand, ~ side, etc.) is “jobb“, which translates verbatim to “better” in English (“good” being “jó“, “best” being “legjobb“). “Jobbik” exists only in comparative sense (used as in “better than ~”). In the party’s name, ‘Jobbik’ plays equally on the “righter” and on the “better(er)” meaning.
Eh, i like me some Dad’s Army, and i grew strangely addicted to Doc Martin too. It’s just the constant grind of wokery what makes much of the beeb’s output intolerable, but i think with selective watching one can still find some decent content here & there. I enjoy Lucy Worsley (even though she has to tack on the occasional ‘red tail’ to pass the woke requirements), and that Scottish bloke Neil Oliver.
There’s only so many times you can watch the Dear Leader tour a valve factory and point at stuff. The news when they launch a new missile is enjoyably OTT. Japanese TV invariably shows clips. My go-to for entertainment if stuck in a hotel is RT. I literally do watch it in preference to the BBC or the US ones. It’s as if they started it as satire then had to try and take it seriously when people believed them. Infotainment with a smirk.
The term far-right is I think thrown around a little too broadly in this article. Some of the parties named as such are hardly conservative by many standards. Fidesz itself seems more nationalistic than anything else.
The term ‘far right’ is thrown around too broadly everywhere you look.
Agreed. Our political discourse would benefit greatly from more precise use of language. This tendency among the commentariat is lazy at best and more often used to insinuate an underlying bias.
I’ve been saying for ages (on Unherd and elsewhere) that we should never forget that the terms “left” and “right” in politics are metaphors. We should, ideally, stop using them and debate the content of particular policies.
I just automatically convert the term “ far-Right” to “the Peter Shore bit of the Labour Party”.
Quite amusing musings from Faludy.
As others already pointed out, the terminology (“far right”, “post-fascist” “hard right” etc.) is grossly inaccurate, i’m not sure why Unherd is sticking with that bigoted vernacular.
Yes, Jobbik (the actual far right, antisemitic / antiroma party of occasionally paramilitant activities) has indeed horseshoed itself into an awkward brotherly embrace with the frazzled ragtag bunch of socialist / farleft / liberal oppositional particles, just for opposition’s sake. And there they shall remain, in opposition.
As for Fidesz, i think it wasn’t quite a bad move to ditch the EPP at last. I would probably vouch for the ID to join, both Salvini and Le Pen are in strong ascendency with well-established impeccable credentials. Then again, i don’t know much about the ECR – but if PiS is already in there, it might be better for all concerned to increase ID’s might with Fidesz’s joining.
I wish Hír TV would put English subtitles on their programmes, as there’s absolutely zero credible reporting on Hungary in the Anglophone press/media.
What piffle. The media in Hungary is quite probably the most diverse in Europe in terms of party/political affiliations. Much of it in fact has remained in the old-regime comrades’ backyards, ever since 1989.
Superb posting and a good deal more informative than the hand-wringing “where-are-my-smelling-salts?” article.
Thanks, Simon!
Had to look the columnist up – and alas, my suspicion was correct, he’s a grandson of one of my favourite Hungarian authors, György Faludy. Sometimes the apple falls a tad afar from the tree, so to speak…
On the note of “Jobbik” – the only one thing i like about them is their choice of name: it’s a wordplay; in Hungarian “right” (~ hand, ~ side, etc.) is “jobb“, which translates verbatim to “better” in English (“good” being “jó“, “best” being “legjobb“). “Jobbik” exists only in comparative sense (used as in “better than ~”). In the party’s name, ‘Jobbik’ plays equally on the “righter” and on the “better(er)” meaning.
I’d watch it in preference to the BBC
I would watch North Korean TV in preference to the BBC.
Eh, i like me some Dad’s Army, and i grew strangely addicted to Doc Martin too. It’s just the constant grind of wokery what makes much of the beeb’s output intolerable, but i think with selective watching one can still find some decent content here & there. I enjoy Lucy Worsley (even though she has to tack on the occasional ‘red tail’ to pass the woke requirements), and that Scottish bloke Neil Oliver.
There’s only so many times you can watch the Dear Leader tour a valve factory and point at stuff. The news when they launch a new missile is enjoyably OTT. Japanese TV invariably shows clips. My go-to for entertainment if stuck in a hotel is RT. I literally do watch it in preference to the BBC or the US ones. It’s as if they started it as satire then had to try and take it seriously when people believed them. Infotainment with a smirk.