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Welcome to team Terf, Jameela Jamil

Jamil has historically been an outspoken critic of single-sex women’s spaces. Credit: Getty

June 20, 2023 - 10:00am

To the surprise of nobody, the Oscars are considering removing all gendered categories for performers. This is an easily anticipated reaction to mounting social pressure regarding sex and gender. As the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer for those in positions of authority, executives increasingly find it easier to dispense with the term altogether. As such, in recent years the Grammys, MTV Movie & TV Awards, and Independent Spirit Awards have all amalgamated their male and female categories. 

Perhaps more surprisingly, the unlikely hero pointing out the absurdity of this most recent development was Jameela Jamil, who took to Instagram to propose a “non-binary category” instead of a system that is statistically biased against female performers. Opposition to eradicating the female category certainly isn’t an unreasonable position: as Jamil noted, at the Grammys and Brits, “men swept the [genderless] category”. 

In her post, the actress expressed fears that removing gendered categories from awards shows might “run the accidental risk of erasing” non-binary people. This is a somewhat surprising comment from a woman who recently referred to “people of all genders who can become pregnant” when discussing abortion legislation in America. It would seem that while Jamil has previously been happy to dispense with women’s identities, she cannot bear to do the same to non-binary individuals.

It is also quite the epiphany from someone who has historically been an outspoken critic of single-sex women’s spaces. When trans swimmer Lia Thomas topped the women’s category at the US national college swimming championships, the actress was the first to defend Thomas’s right to compete and criticised those concerned with the issue, claiming that the whole thing was an elaborate ploy to “distract” from new abortion laws. 

Similarly, Jamil was highly vocal about her opposition to planned reforms of the Gender Recognition Act which sought to introduce new protections for women’s spaces — including bathrooms, changing rooms, and rape crisis and domestic abuse shelters. She claimed: “I would have any trans woman in my protected spaces as they need protection more than anyone”. And yet, now the trans debate is coming for the Oscars, Jamil’s particular area of interest, the penny is finally dropping. 

Unsurprisingly, Jamil’s recent comments have seen her branded a “Terf” by the same trans community for which she’s spent much of her career keenly advocating. Responding to the sea of negative comments, the actress is now complaining about the “current climate of social politics”. She claims she’s posting “mainly because thousands of people in [her] DMs asked [her] to, because they agree with this, but for some reason feel too afraid to say it publicly”, and apparently “that is ridiculous”. 

Watching Jamil’s journey of discovery might be frustrating for those who have expressed concerns about the erasure of women for years. However, we ought to take heart in her recent comments. The actress’s realisation that women will invariably be the group to suffer at the hands of gender-neutral policies is surely proof that trans ideology is collapsing in on itself. Hopefully, other activists might soon join Jamil in her revelations about the state of free speech, women’s categories, and the rights conflict which sit at the heart of this debate.


Lara Brown is a student at the University of Cambridge and a former president of the Cambridge Union.

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Simon Neale
Simon Neale
1 year ago

As the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer…

I can’t say I’ve personally experienced much difficulty, to be honest.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

Maybe it should be rephrased…. Becomes harder to answer honestly without a transactivist clapping and spitting in your face.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
1 year ago

I thought they liked gluing their hands to things these days?

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

I think those are the ecoterrorists.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  Dumetrius

I think those are the ecoterrorists.

Dumetrius
Dumetrius
1 year ago

I thought they liked gluing their hands to things these days?

Josh Allan
Josh Allan
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

The full statement is ‘As the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer for those in positions of authority’, implying (I assume) that such people are increasingly brainless

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago
Reply to  Josh Allan

Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by cowardice.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago
Reply to  Josh Allan

Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by cowardice.

Clara B
Clara B
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

Nor I. And, speaking as a mother of daughters, it’s abundantly clear what a woman is. Moreover, it’s been abundantly clear for most of my life. Something’s gone very, very wrong with our society if we can’t define what a woman is. It’s real Alice in Wonderland stuff.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Clara B

Apparently Nicola Sturgeon doesn’t agree with you.

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That’s understandable ; I’ve never been entirely sure what Nicola Sturgeon is.

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That’s understandable ; I’ve never been entirely sure what Nicola Sturgeon is.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Clara B

Apparently Nicola Sturgeon doesn’t agree with you.

David McKee
David McKee
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

I would guess you have never been up close and personal with a Thai ladyboy. I am told they are very, very good…!

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

I don’t understand the downvotes. My only experience of Thai ladyboys has been to see them on the TV, but they do look very convincing – not the ‘trucker in a frock’ we in the UK occasionally see mincing (actually lumbering) round the supermarket.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

They are still not women.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

They are still not women.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Does that make them women? No.

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

I don’t understand the downvotes. My only experience of Thai ladyboys has been to see them on the TV, but they do look very convincing – not the ‘trucker in a frock’ we in the UK occasionally see mincing (actually lumbering) round the supermarket.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  David McKee

Does that make them women? No.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

Maybe it should be rephrased…. Becomes harder to answer honestly without a transactivist clapping and spitting in your face.

Josh Allan
Josh Allan
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

The full statement is ‘As the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer for those in positions of authority’, implying (I assume) that such people are increasingly brainless

Clara B
Clara B
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

Nor I. And, speaking as a mother of daughters, it’s abundantly clear what a woman is. Moreover, it’s been abundantly clear for most of my life. Something’s gone very, very wrong with our society if we can’t define what a woman is. It’s real Alice in Wonderland stuff.

David McKee
David McKee
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon Neale

I would guess you have never been up close and personal with a Thai ladyboy. I am told they are very, very good…!

Simon Neale
Simon Neale
1 year ago

As the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer…

I can’t say I’ve personally experienced much difficulty, to be honest.

Gorka Sillero
Gorka Sillero
1 year ago

I understand she’s never been the smartest tool in the shed but I can’t feel sorry for her. She’s been pandering to that cultish gunk for a while, she should have known this would happen…

Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Gorka Sillero

Chickens. Home. Roost.

Clara B
Clara B
1 year ago

The words ‘hoist’ and ‘petard’ also come to mind.

Clara B
Clara B
1 year ago

The words ‘hoist’ and ‘petard’ also come to mind.

Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago
Reply to  Gorka Sillero

But Jameela Jamil is hugely important to the debate on gender identity ideology – along with other such luminaries as Rachel McKinnon, Alice Roberts, Stephanie Hayden, Demi Lovato, Sam Smith and Jazz Jennings. Collectively, they are so utterly and spectacularly clueless, their increasingly nonsensical claims validate the gender critical argument and the science-based reality of s3x far better than the rest of us could.

Last edited 1 year ago by Huw Parker
Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Gorka Sillero

Chickens. Home. Roost.

Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago
Reply to  Gorka Sillero

But Jameela Jamil is hugely important to the debate on gender identity ideology – along with other such luminaries as Rachel McKinnon, Alice Roberts, Stephanie Hayden, Demi Lovato, Sam Smith and Jazz Jennings. Collectively, they are so utterly and spectacularly clueless, their increasingly nonsensical claims validate the gender critical argument and the science-based reality of s3x far better than the rest of us could.

Last edited 1 year ago by Huw Parker
Gorka Sillero
Gorka Sillero
1 year ago

I understand she’s never been the smartest tool in the shed but I can’t feel sorry for her. She’s been pandering to that cultish gunk for a while, she should have known this would happen…

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

It is not just a matter of “First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist …” of Martin Niemoller but of a woman so stupidly self righteous that she was the one leading the charge against those not signed up to the trans ideology. It only occurred to her there could be a personal disadvantage rather late on. Unfortunately she is not a TERF just a rather stupid bigot who realised rather late in the day she and her feminist actor friends personally could be disadvantaged and decided she didn’t like it.

Peter Kwasi-Modo
Peter Kwasi-Modo
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Good point! Hers is not a Pauline Conversion on the road to Damascus. Rather, she has only just realised that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Peter Kwasi-Modo
Peter Kwasi-Modo
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Good point! Hers is not a Pauline Conversion on the road to Damascus. Rather, she has only just realised that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

It is not just a matter of “First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist …” of Martin Niemoller but of a woman so stupidly self righteous that she was the one leading the charge against those not signed up to the trans ideology. It only occurred to her there could be a personal disadvantage rather late on. Unfortunately she is not a TERF just a rather stupid bigot who realised rather late in the day she and her feminist actor friends personally could be disadvantaged and decided she didn’t like it.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Isn’t it simply that she’s not terribly bright?

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

She was good in “The Good Place” though.

Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago

It’s all about the casting. She played a wealthy, narcissistic and not-very-bright one-time fashion model.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago

Playing herself basically. She got on my nerves. I only liked Chidi and Eleanor.

Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago

It’s all about the casting. She played a wealthy, narcissistic and not-very-bright one-time fashion model.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago

Playing herself basically. She got on my nerves. I only liked Chidi and Eleanor.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

She was good in “The Good Place” though.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Isn’t it simply that she’s not terribly bright?

Peter Kwasi-Modo
Peter Kwasi-Modo
1 year ago

Yes, indeed ‘the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer for those in positions of authority‘ (but not for the rest of us). My solution: before any appointment is made to a position of authority, the candidate should be asked the question “what is a woman?”. An answer not along the lines of ‘adult female human being’ excludes the candidate from the position.

William Braden
William Braden
1 year ago

Reminder, Ketanji Jackson was asked this, claimed she was not a biologist, confirmed to US Supreme Court anyway.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Braden

Awful! I would have cried myself to sleep from Shame.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Braden

Awful! I would have cried myself to sleep from Shame.

William Braden
William Braden
1 year ago

Reminder, Ketanji Jackson was asked this, claimed she was not a biologist, confirmed to US Supreme Court anyway.

Peter Kwasi-Modo
Peter Kwasi-Modo
1 year ago

Yes, indeed ‘the question “What is a woman?” becomes harder and harder to answer for those in positions of authority‘ (but not for the rest of us). My solution: before any appointment is made to a position of authority, the candidate should be asked the question “what is a woman?”. An answer not along the lines of ‘adult female human being’ excludes the candidate from the position.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

I totally support the current thing, unless the current thing affects me..Now we have a problem. These people are as shallow as they are self serving.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

I totally support the current thing, unless the current thing affects me..Now we have a problem. These people are as shallow as they are self serving.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Does Jameela have a bet at the Terf accountants?

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago

That comment is below your dignity, sir.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

she may even be a member of The Terf Club.. probably in their marquee at Royal Ascot… or ” Haz Kotte” as most people who go neow call it….

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

she may even be a member of The Terf Club.. probably in their marquee at Royal Ascot… or ” Haz Kotte” as most people who go neow call it….

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago

That comment is below your dignity, sir.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Does Jameela have a bet at the Terf accountants?

Daniel P
Daniel P
1 year ago

The old adage about First they came for…..etc….then they came for me and nobody was there…
This is just so typical of these kinds of people. All for other people sacrificing in the name of virtue signaling, but the minute it impacts them all of a sudden there is some rational why they should be excluded.

Daniel P
Daniel P
1 year ago

The old adage about First they came for…..etc….then they came for me and nobody was there…
This is just so typical of these kinds of people. All for other people sacrificing in the name of virtue signaling, but the minute it impacts them all of a sudden there is some rational why they should be excluded.

Ali W
Ali W
1 year ago

She’s been trying to bank on this bandwagon for years. She “came out” as non-binary to try to keep her Good Place fame alive, and even the lgtbq crowd scoffed at the notion of her claiming the title as a classically feminine beauty.

Ali W
Ali W
1 year ago

She’s been trying to bank on this bandwagon for years. She “came out” as non-binary to try to keep her Good Place fame alive, and even the lgtbq crowd scoffed at the notion of her claiming the title as a classically feminine beauty.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago

Stay well away from this subject. If you enter the arena, you will be well and truly trashed, no matter what opinion you hold. It’s gonna burn itself out soon, anyway.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

I’m not sure it’s burning itself out anytime soon. Look around. Western society believes nonsense across a wide range of issues..Switzerland just voted overwhelmingly in a referendum to maintain Covid restrictions until 2024, as well as supporting net zero. People honestly believe that to fight climate change we need to reduce food production. Educators embrace the idea that fighting racism starts by putting children in oppressed and oppressor groups. Power grid operators in the US are warning politicians about looming energy shortages as fossil fuel production is shut down across the country and replaced with nothing. This advice is ignored and even ridiculed. I’m not optimistic that any of this is ending.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jim Veenbaas
William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

Don’t hold your breath.
Based on the progressive attitudes of young women it’s obvious that eventually the discourse will be dominated by trans-women and their supporters. They will continue to chip away at the protectionist measures that are currently being erected in the hope of restricting participation to the so-called “pure females.” Older women will continue to fight for what they see as their historical female privileges that date from the days of chivalry but they will eventually by outnumbered by a new generation with very different views. Change is inevitable. The old will pass away and the young will shape their own future.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Having private bathrooms, women-only sports and Women’s jails, among others, are historical female privileges now? And that “history” is just about 100 years old. We didn’t enjoy our “privileges” for long, did we? And that’s fine with you?

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Having private bathrooms, women-only sports and Women’s jails, among others, are historical female privileges now? And that “history” is just about 100 years old. We didn’t enjoy our “privileges” for long, did we? And that’s fine with you?

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

I’m not sure it’s burning itself out anytime soon. Look around. Western society believes nonsense across a wide range of issues..Switzerland just voted overwhelmingly in a referendum to maintain Covid restrictions until 2024, as well as supporting net zero. People honestly believe that to fight climate change we need to reduce food production. Educators embrace the idea that fighting racism starts by putting children in oppressed and oppressor groups. Power grid operators in the US are warning politicians about looming energy shortages as fossil fuel production is shut down across the country and replaced with nothing. This advice is ignored and even ridiculed. I’m not optimistic that any of this is ending.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jim Veenbaas
William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Wagner

Don’t hold your breath.
Based on the progressive attitudes of young women it’s obvious that eventually the discourse will be dominated by trans-women and their supporters. They will continue to chip away at the protectionist measures that are currently being erected in the hope of restricting participation to the so-called “pure females.” Older women will continue to fight for what they see as their historical female privileges that date from the days of chivalry but they will eventually by outnumbered by a new generation with very different views. Change is inevitable. The old will pass away and the young will shape their own future.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
1 year ago

Stay well away from this subject. If you enter the arena, you will be well and truly trashed, no matter what opinion you hold. It’s gonna burn itself out soon, anyway.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago

Like Jameela Jamil is ever going to set foot in a Rape Center or a Women’s jail. She probably doesn’t frequent public toilets either, and isn’t about to enter the 800-yard women’s race at the Olympics any time soon.

Last edited 1 year ago by Roxanne Deslongchamps
William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

“women will invariably be the group to suffer at the hands of gender-neutral policies”
This statement infantilises women. It implicitly brands them as “less than,” vulnerable, and needing support.
Are women capable adults with agency or are they inadequate in comparison to men?
Which is it? And if they are as capable as men, why then do they need so much help and support?

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Not a problem. In order to eradicate this inequality, all women have to do is identity as men. Sorted!

Jacqueline Burns
Jacqueline Burns
1 year ago
Reply to  Huw Parker

Hahaha

Jacqueline Burns
Jacqueline Burns
1 year ago
Reply to  Huw Parker

Hahaha

Penny Adrian
Penny Adrian
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Women being at a disadvantage in film categories comes from the vast majority of directors, screenwriters, and producers being male – the academy of oscar voters are also majority male. Men are not better actors than women, but they do have a wider range of better roles to choose from. That’s the issue.
As far as women needing “help and support” it is women who create human life in our bodies, which makes our bodies more vulnerable than men’s. We need and deserve protection from male predators, and we need and deserve our own sporting categories.
Get it?

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

Quite the opposite. Women receive preferential treatment in every aspect of life.
Everything revolves around increasing women’s rights, increased funding for women’s health, creation of female safe spaces, protection of women’s sports, quotas for women on company boards and in management, quotas for females in STEM, reduced entry requirements and preferential hiring for female applicants, more help for single mothers, better day-care support for mothers, zero prison time for female convicts, time off from work during periods, menopause leave, free period supplies for school girls, zero VAT for female personal hygiene products, etc, etc.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

Oscar’s and such should be the type of competitions that don’t require male and female categories. It does reduce the number of awards, which is probably her real concern.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

Quite the opposite. Women receive preferential treatment in every aspect of life.
Everything revolves around increasing women’s rights, increased funding for women’s health, creation of female safe spaces, protection of women’s sports, quotas for women on company boards and in management, quotas for females in STEM, reduced entry requirements and preferential hiring for female applicants, more help for single mothers, better day-care support for mothers, zero prison time for female convicts, time off from work during periods, menopause leave, free period supplies for school girls, zero VAT for female personal hygiene products, etc, etc.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

Oscar’s and such should be the type of competitions that don’t require male and female categories. It does reduce the number of awards, which is probably her real concern.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Where are women asking for “so much help”? Last time I checked, women were asking for men (identifying as women) to stay out of ladies toilets, changing rooms, women’s refuges, rape centres (not all, obviously but having a choice of female only and male only is reasonable), women’s prisons and sports competitions. The Oscar’s are about recognition of achievements, not help.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

There are many instances of women asking for men’s help. I can provide two prominent examples for you.
1. Emma Watson, the United Nations representative for Gender Equality … Her HeForShe speech was a request for men to stand in solidarity with women.
2. Just last week in the DT we had Sharron Davies appealing for men to support her gender critical position on women’s sports. Quite a brass neck request when you consider the decades of women labelling boys and men as toxic, unnecessary and obsolete.
There are countless other examples. If you look they are easy to find.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That’s odd. Emma Watson doesn’t know what a woman is. As a corollary, I would have thought she doesn’t know what a man is.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

She sounded pretty confident when giving the UN speech.
“ Today we are launching a campaign called for HeForShe. I am reaching out to you because we need your help…. We want to try to mobilize as many men and boys as possible to be advocates for change.”

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

She sounded pretty confident when giving the UN speech.
“ Today we are launching a campaign called for HeForShe. I am reaching out to you because we need your help…. We want to try to mobilize as many men and boys as possible to be advocates for change.”

MJ Reid
MJ Reid
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

You seem to have a huge mountain on your shoulder. My grandmother lived in an age where women couldn’t have a bank account unless tgeir father/ husband agreed even when women were working and paying tgeir own way. They weren’t allowed to apply for a vouncil house and heaven forbid, they wanted a mortgage. So when you are spouting about what women get now, please remember it was a 100 year struggle to get recognition that women are not the property of men who get to decide what is or is not good girl them. Transwomen and misogynists do not get to take these rights and spaces away.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Reid

Excellent post.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Reid

I listed the facts of today and your response is to talk about history and feelings.
That alone identifies who is dealing with chips on shoulders.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

History it might be but much of it is within my memory. When my Wife joined with me in marriage in ’63 many of her friends were amazed that we had a joint account. “You mean you can draw out all of his wages? Wow! He must really trust you”.

Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

My parents were married in 1958 and it was normal for married couples to have joint accounts.

Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

My parents were married in 1958 and it was normal for married couples to have joint accounts.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

History it might be but much of it is within my memory. When my Wife joined with me in marriage in ’63 many of her friends were amazed that we had a joint account. “You mean you can draw out all of his wages? Wow! He must really trust you”.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Reid

Excellent post.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Reid

I listed the facts of today and your response is to talk about history and feelings.
That alone identifies who is dealing with chips on shoulders.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That would be your problem right there, listening to Emma Watson! She might think she speaks for all the witches, but she doesn’t even know what they are!

Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That’s odd. Emma Watson doesn’t know what a woman is. As a corollary, I would have thought she doesn’t know what a man is.

MJ Reid
MJ Reid
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

You seem to have a huge mountain on your shoulder. My grandmother lived in an age where women couldn’t have a bank account unless tgeir father/ husband agreed even when women were working and paying tgeir own way. They weren’t allowed to apply for a vouncil house and heaven forbid, they wanted a mortgage. So when you are spouting about what women get now, please remember it was a 100 year struggle to get recognition that women are not the property of men who get to decide what is or is not good girl them. Transwomen and misogynists do not get to take these rights and spaces away.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

That would be your problem right there, listening to Emma Watson! She might think she speaks for all the witches, but she doesn’t even know what they are!

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

He is beyond contempt. A true misogynist.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

There are many instances of women asking for men’s help. I can provide two prominent examples for you.
1. Emma Watson, the United Nations representative for Gender Equality … Her HeForShe speech was a request for men to stand in solidarity with women.
2. Just last week in the DT we had Sharron Davies appealing for men to support her gender critical position on women’s sports. Quite a brass neck request when you consider the decades of women labelling boys and men as toxic, unnecessary and obsolete.
There are countless other examples. If you look they are easy to find.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

He is beyond contempt. A true misogynist.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

By the way, your “pure females” is revolting.

Huw Parker
Huw Parker
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Not a problem. In order to eradicate this inequality, all women have to do is identity as men. Sorted!

Penny Adrian
Penny Adrian
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Women being at a disadvantage in film categories comes from the vast majority of directors, screenwriters, and producers being male – the academy of oscar voters are also majority male. Men are not better actors than women, but they do have a wider range of better roles to choose from. That’s the issue.
As far as women needing “help and support” it is women who create human life in our bodies, which makes our bodies more vulnerable than men’s. We need and deserve protection from male predators, and we need and deserve our own sporting categories.
Get it?

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Where are women asking for “so much help”? Last time I checked, women were asking for men (identifying as women) to stay out of ladies toilets, changing rooms, women’s refuges, rape centres (not all, obviously but having a choice of female only and male only is reasonable), women’s prisons and sports competitions. The Oscar’s are about recognition of achievements, not help.

Roxanne Deslongchamps
Roxanne Deslongchamps
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

By the way, your “pure females” is revolting.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

“women will invariably be the group to suffer at the hands of gender-neutral policies”
This statement infantilises women. It implicitly brands them as “less than,” vulnerable, and needing support.
Are women capable adults with agency or are they inadequate in comparison to men?
Which is it? And if they are as capable as men, why then do they need so much help and support?

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw