Not both, only one. Hungary is already leading in that aspect, and has most cordial ties with Israel. In fact Hungary is consistently polling as the #1 safest and most pleasant country in Europe for Jews to live in or visit. And Israel is the sole democratic, civilised nation in the Middle east.
who seem to think walls work
Yes, “walls” (fences, more like) do work perfectly well – but they need good governing to work, something the UK seems to lack which makes its great natural asset the English Channel somewhat wasted on it.
Eh? You have a problem with “racism” or something?
Johannes Kreisler
2 years ago
A year later, Budapest then surprised London by subjecting UK nationals to immigration control before the end of the Brexit transition period — a seemingly unfriendly act.
?? There was a global pandemic going on that time. The entire world – well, the entire Europe anyway – imposed strict, “seemingly unfriendly” border controls because of that.
But isn’t that the divide between the nationalist who thinks everyone in the country should be protected from harm and the libertarian who thinks everyone in the country should protect his petty self from harm?
I’m not aware of any such divide. I’d imagine both nationalists (well, nationists, more like) and libertarians are well aware of the fact that every nation is the sum of its petty individual parts. You seem to imply that nationism is some collectivist ideology. It is not.
Hello Johannes. I am happy to clarify this: the restriction came in separately -in fact at the time when border controls were in general being eased across after the first wave had subsided. It explicitly involved treating UK nationals differently from EEA ones -with whom they were, at the time, meant to enjoy equivalent status. It was a source of considerable bewilderment to the UK authorities -as you will see if you click through to the link to the relevant video post by the British Ambassador in Hungary at the time.
Kind regards
Alex
Thank you Alexander (Sándor?). I watched the video – yes, i see it comes across as discriminatory towards Britons with no continental/EEA ties. Quite baffling indeed, you’re right about that.
rosie mackenzie
2 years ago
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what Lord Darroch says. In his time in Washington he never seemed to grasp the simple fact that he was HM Ambassador to the Court of President Trump, not the Democrats. So in all that time, all we got was intelligence from the opposition and media, not the Administration. We surely could have got it ourselves, from CNN, without paying for that lovely Lutyens House and the salaries and expenses entailed.
Last edited 2 years ago by rosie mackenzie
lac_dirk
2 years ago
“ The UK has left the EU, but the Tories remain important players in the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) — the pan-continental grouping of Euro-sceptic parties. “ The ECR no longer contains the Tories. They left when the UK left the EU, at the end of January last year. Hungary has essentially reverted to its communist authoritarianism. It has shown that the EU needs stronger ways to keep its members democratic and in line with western values. But that should be possible, even if it may require kicking Hungary out entirely. Then Orban can go hobnob with Erdogan and Putin.
Hungary has essentially reverted to its communist authoritarianism.
Au contraire. Hungary is one of the few countries in Europe standing against the encroaching leftist authoritarianism. Hopefully the numbers of those countries will grow, with general elections in Italy and France.
Dear Lac_Dirk,
Membership of the ECR Parliamentary Group and of the ECR Party structure are discreet issues. By virtue of Brexit the Tories no longer have MEPs in the Parliamentary Group but remain in the Party Structure. They are still listed as members on the official ECR website.
Hope this helps.
Kinds regards
Alex
Oh, yes please!
…. and both could learn from that completely democratic and non-racist country, Israel, who seem to think walls work.
They do against suicide bombers who are very democratic and non-racist as they don’t care who they kill.
Not both, only one. Hungary is already leading in that aspect, and has most cordial ties with Israel. In fact Hungary is consistently polling as the #1 safest and most pleasant country in Europe for Jews to live in or visit. And Israel is the sole democratic, civilised nation in the Middle east.
Yes, “walls” (fences, more like) do work perfectly well – but they need good governing to work, something the UK seems to lack which makes its great natural asset the English Channel somewhat wasted on it.
The English Channel is useless up against Tony Blair’s Human Rights legislation and booming industry of grasping lawyers.
Blair has been out of power for 14 years and his party for 11 years so why hasn’t this legislation been repealed??
And from s u b s a h a r a n* Africa too, most importantly.
(*for some reason the “s~” word triggers the censorfilter, hence the odd typing of it.)
The word is probably filtered because it shows your racism too well.
Eh? You have a problem with “racism” or something?
?? There was a global pandemic going on that time. The entire world – well, the entire Europe anyway – imposed strict, “seemingly unfriendly” border controls because of that.
But isn’t that the divide between the nationalist who thinks everyone in the country should be protected from harm and the libertarian who thinks everyone in the country should protect his petty self from harm?
I’m not aware of any such divide. I’d imagine both nationalists (well, nationists, more like) and libertarians are well aware of the fact that every nation is the sum of its petty individual parts. You seem to imply that nationism is some collectivist ideology. It is not.
Nationist isn’t a word. And nationalism is a collectivist ideology, with most nationalists being bigots and/or racists as well.
Poor form, _dirk. Have you just crawled out from Momentum’s nether regions?
Don’t feed the trolls Johannes.
Dirk (think he’s spelling it wrong) has been making a nuisance of himself over at the Telegraph’s comment section for years.
Does that include the Scottish and Irish nationalists?
Hello Johannes. I am happy to clarify this: the restriction came in separately -in fact at the time when border controls were in general being eased across after the first wave had subsided. It explicitly involved treating UK nationals differently from EEA ones -with whom they were, at the time, meant to enjoy equivalent status. It was a source of considerable bewilderment to the UK authorities -as you will see if you click through to the link to the relevant video post by the British Ambassador in Hungary at the time.
Kind regards
Alex
Thank you Alexander (Sándor?). I watched the video – yes, i see it comes across as discriminatory towards Britons with no continental/EEA ties. Quite baffling indeed, you’re right about that.
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what Lord Darroch says. In his time in Washington he never seemed to grasp the simple fact that he was HM Ambassador to the Court of President Trump, not the Democrats. So in all that time, all we got was intelligence from the opposition and media, not the Administration. We surely could have got it ourselves, from CNN, without paying for that lovely Lutyens House and the salaries and expenses entailed.
“ The UK has left the EU, but the Tories remain important players in the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) — the pan-continental grouping of Euro-sceptic parties. “
The ECR no longer contains the Tories. They left when the UK left the EU, at the end of January last year.
Hungary has essentially reverted to its communist authoritarianism. It has shown that the EU needs stronger ways to keep its members democratic and in line with western values. But that should be possible, even if it may require kicking Hungary out entirely. Then Orban can go hobnob with Erdogan and Putin.
Au contraire. Hungary is one of the few countries in Europe standing against the encroaching leftist authoritarianism.
Hopefully the numbers of those countries will grow, with general elections in Italy and France.
In what way is it offensive to you that Orban’s government protects the Hungarian people from the anti-nation, anti-white globalism of Brussels?
Dear Lac_Dirk,
Membership of the ECR Parliamentary Group and of the ECR Party structure are discreet issues. By virtue of Brexit the Tories no longer have MEPs in the Parliamentary Group but remain in the Party Structure. They are still listed as members on the official ECR website.
Hope this helps.
Kinds regards
Alex