I have not really followed exactly what Brussel’s Rule of law concerns are with respect to Hungary. It is actually quite hard to discover the answer on the internet However this is a brief extract from an EU official website so I presume is an accurate summary from their point of view:
“On 15 June 2021, the Hungarian Law purportedly aiming at taking stricter action against paedophile offenders and amending certain laws to protect children was adopted. Some of the new provisions target and limit the access of minors to content and advertisements that “promotes or portrays” the so-called “divergence from self-identity corresponding to sex at birth, sex change or homosexuality”.
By relying on those categories, the Law lays down restrictive rules affecting specifically electronic commerce services and information society services, educational activities, classification of audiovisual content and audiovisual advertising;”
I suspect many in the UK and not just on the right would welcome stricter laws against paedophiles and provisions to limit access of minors to contents and adverts promoting trans ideology on the internet targeting children with imagined sex dysphoria so they can bypass sensible medical and psychiatric advice. No wonder the EU wants to claim it is about rule of law that all sane people want to support rather than that they want Hungary to be kinder to paedophiles and ban the encouragement for the young to be persuaded to take puberty blockers and undergo surgery if they feel they are in the wrong body. It sounds like the sort of policy that would gain widespread support among ordinary Europeans.
I thought it was more to do with stuffing the judiciary with government allies and clamping down on the media rather than any particular law but I could be wrong.
Orban is a corrupt autocrat, as bad as any others you find within the EU. He simply has a fan club because he’s of the “other” side
I believe in Poland there have been legislative attempts to reduce the influence of Soviet era appointed Judges which I think sounds pretty sensible for a country trying to regain democratic institutions, but which the blind formalists of the EU disapprove of, and I vaguely assumed something of the same sort was involved in Hungary, but when I tried to search to discover exactly what the Rule of Law objections to Hungary were the legislation referred to in my post was all I could discover.
It did seem that the Hungarian people were being threatened with being deprived of financial subsidies unless Hungary allowed Stonewall type trans propaganda. Orban may be corrupt and an autocrat ( I don’t know enough about Hungary to tell) but he seems to be getting the democratic votes and passing legislation that many who are not right wing, still less far right, would applaud, but which the bureaucracy of the EU does not approve of. The EU have an odd idea about democratic norms which is perhaps unsurprising in an institution where democracy is very filtered.
I don’t claim to be an expert on Hungary so am open to any factual correction of the impression I have gained.
I recall the huge reaction to Section 28 back in the eighties, which was binned eventually and has become a totem of gay oppression.
Now the leading gay charity, Stonewall, and it’s many gay charity allies including Mermaids, endorses the rape of lesbians and the physical and mental abuse of children with their consent. Now we have schools promoting these perverse ideas.
This is a direct consequence of a failure to stop the promotion of non standard sexuality in schools, which was what Section 28 was about.
I have not really followed exactly what Brussel’s Rule of law concerns are with respect to Hungary. It is actually quite hard to discover the answer on the internet However this is a brief extract from an EU official website so I presume is an accurate summary from their point of view:
“On 15 June 2021, the Hungarian Law purportedly aiming at taking stricter action against paedophile offenders and amending certain laws to protect children was adopted. Some of the new provisions target and limit the access of minors to content and advertisements that “promotes or portrays” the so-called “divergence from self-identity corresponding to sex at birth, sex change or homosexuality”.
By relying on those categories, the Law lays down restrictive rules affecting specifically electronic commerce services and information society services, educational activities, classification of audiovisual content and audiovisual advertising;”
I suspect many in the UK and not just on the right would welcome stricter laws against paedophiles and provisions to limit access of minors to contents and adverts promoting trans ideology on the internet targeting children with imagined sex dysphoria so they can bypass sensible medical and psychiatric advice. No wonder the EU wants to claim it is about rule of law that all sane people want to support rather than that they want Hungary to be kinder to paedophiles and ban the encouragement for the young to be persuaded to take puberty blockers and undergo surgery if they feel they are in the wrong body. It sounds like the sort of policy that would gain widespread support among ordinary Europeans.
Can someone tell me if I am wrong?
I thought it was more to do with stuffing the judiciary with government allies and clamping down on the media rather than any particular law but I could be wrong.
Orban is a corrupt autocrat, as bad as any others you find within the EU. He simply has a fan club because he’s of the “other” side
I believe in Poland there have been legislative attempts to reduce the influence of Soviet era appointed Judges which I think sounds pretty sensible for a country trying to regain democratic institutions, but which the blind formalists of the EU disapprove of, and I vaguely assumed something of the same sort was involved in Hungary, but when I tried to search to discover exactly what the Rule of Law objections to Hungary were the legislation referred to in my post was all I could discover.
It did seem that the Hungarian people were being threatened with being deprived of financial subsidies unless Hungary allowed Stonewall type trans propaganda. Orban may be corrupt and an autocrat ( I don’t know enough about Hungary to tell) but he seems to be getting the democratic votes and passing legislation that many who are not right wing, still less far right, would applaud, but which the bureaucracy of the EU does not approve of. The EU have an odd idea about democratic norms which is perhaps unsurprising in an institution where democracy is very filtered.
I don’t claim to be an expert on Hungary so am open to any factual correction of the impression I have gained.
I recall the huge reaction to Section 28 back in the eighties, which was binned eventually and has become a totem of gay oppression.
Now the leading gay charity, Stonewall, and it’s many gay charity allies including Mermaids, endorses the rape of lesbians and the physical and mental abuse of children with their consent. Now we have schools promoting these perverse ideas.
This is a direct consequence of a failure to stop the promotion of non standard sexuality in schools, which was what Section 28 was about.
Consequences, eh?