A very pertinent article. I am following all the podcasts etc from the US and it has become obvious that their media class is nothing less than a bunch of unhinged, lying and immoral lunatics, at least on the woke left side of things. They are, as you say, deliberately fanning division and hate. In their own way they are no better than ISIS, not least because the consequences may well be similar.
There was a time when I looked up to and respected journalists and the media. But in the US – and to a large extent here – they have become the opposite of everything they are supposed to be.
“The woke left side of things” comprises almost all of the print and television news media that are the sole sources of information for almost all Americans. The more rational, more informed population that reads sources like Unherd is, unfortunately, a small minority.
While I agree about the US mass media, the description of unhinged, lying and immoral lunatics applies equally well to much of the right as it does to the left. Have you ever seen Fox?
Clive Mitchell
3 years ago
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Morry Rotenberg
3 years ago
The media in the USA has been for at least a generation the mouthpiece of the Left and are wholly dedicated to the promotion of the Democrat Party. The entire race war that is going on now is an attempt by the democrats and their agitprop promoting press to continue to garner at least 95% of the black vote. If they don’t get 90% of the black vote, the evil Orange Man cannot be defeated. It should be emphasized that not a singe democrat leader has denounced the rioting, looting, and arson perpetrated by the BLM and Antifa Marxists.
Given blacks comprise c14% of the US population, aiming to get all of them to vote Democrat, but doing so in a way that antagonises the rest, including the 60% of whites, seems a remarkably short-sighted approach, and not likely to succeed.
The Democrat Party/media are also hoping that the chaos will turn not just blacks, but previous Trump voters against him in the upcoming election. That is what all of the last four years’ insanity has been about.
Dave Smith
3 years ago
If I care to think about it I suppose i have two mixed race grandchildren but I never do think about it. Why should I ? . The current push by the media to fan racial division in England is something that media will deny . But to me it looks as if we are putting back race relations a generation at least if not more. This country is nothing like the USA. I spent much time in the South years ago and soon understood just what place race played there. To an Englishman it seemed bizarre and pointless. One thing I soon understood was that black and white were very much Americans and that they were different in attitudes both black and white to Europeans but alike to each other. . What is going on here is deplorable and the media carries much of the responsibility. Pulling down statues! Give me a break. Nobody much cared about them when they were there . What is being risked is the inevitable reaction. That would be a disaster .
Chris Mochan
3 years ago
I find it laughably naive to think, as much of the commentariat seem to, that this desire to focus relentlessly on race and racial conflict will result in less racism. They’re attempting to fight racism by creating a notion of race guilt and history tells us this never ever ends well.
Dougie Undersub
3 years ago
It’s all driven by middle class white guilt. If it doesn’t stop soon it will end very badly.
Derek M
3 years ago
Basically what these people seem to be saying is “black good, white bad”. A bit like a Cambridge academic gets promoted after saying white lives don’t matter and a Burnley factory worker gets the sack after saying white lives matter. It’s a funny old world
David George
3 years ago
“today’s left-modernist offense archaeologists outdo each other in trying to reframe the world as racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, and so on. Turning the principle of charity on its head, they insist on the most suspicious interpretation of a person’s motives when the subject matter is associated with their canonical totems of race, gender, sexuality…….The result is an atmosphere where inter-personal trust is as low as humanly possible while discursive power flows to the accuser. The new cultural revolutionaries have constructed our emotional and conceptual reality” Excerpt from a brilliant and timely essay. https://quillette.com/2020/…
“Turning the principle of charity on its head, they insist on the most suspicious interpretation of a person’s motives” Both sides do this. Indeed this quote does too. I think it’s driven by social media: so easy to find the worst possible examples of your opponents and claim they are typical.
Michael Dawson
3 years ago
Some people are too clever for their own good. They are making up distinctions that make no sense to ordinary people and are blatantly one-sided. To use another cliche, it’s almost beyond parody.
Or maybe they are just have malign intentions – and understand exactly what they are doing.
Glyn Reed
3 years ago
Who is pulling the strings of these puppets? Is it China? Apparently China has been running cyber-warfare through hundreds of thousands of accounts on Twitter along with Russia and Turkey. The world is stuffed with the barely educated – even if they have university degrees – and many are very easy prey for those intent on manipulating with fake news and fake historical accounts in order to bring about the chaos that would serve there own nefarious ends.
Can we stop blaming Russia and China for the effluent flowing from the fever swamps of the American university system.
Peter KE
3 years ago
Another load of drivel, the issue is driven by marxist anarchist of blm etc and idiotic journalism trying to make money by selling copy.
Liscarkat
3 years ago
In the U.S. where statements about, for example, Italians or Poles are sometimes condemned as “racist”, it’s no wonder there’s confusion about race and ethnicity.
angersbeagle
3 years ago
In the USA the language of divisiveness has been around for a while now, when describing a person the media regularly use terms such as African American, Italian American etc ….. Any surprise that this profiling has a sting in its tail ?
David Jones
3 years ago
“In turning black Americans into a new Black ethnic group” Surely, Black people were already defined as a distinct ethnic group in pre-Civil Rights US? The argument is over to what extent this has disappeared, no?
Irv Friesen
3 years ago
Feeling threatened are we? Can anybody commenting here think of any reasons why Blacks might be reluctant to trust whites?? No?
A very pertinent article. I am following all the podcasts etc from the US and it has become obvious that their media class is nothing less than a bunch of unhinged, lying and immoral lunatics, at least on the woke left side of things. They are, as you say, deliberately fanning division and hate. In their own way they are no better than ISIS, not least because the consequences may well be similar.
There was a time when I looked up to and respected journalists and the media. But in the US – and to a large extent here – they have become the opposite of everything they are supposed to be.
“The woke left side of things” comprises almost all of the print and television news media that are the sole sources of information for almost all Americans. The more rational, more informed population that reads sources like Unherd is, unfortunately, a small minority.
While I agree about the US mass media, the description of unhinged, lying and immoral lunatics applies equally well to much of the right as it does to the left. Have you ever seen Fox?
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The media in the USA has been for at least a generation the mouthpiece of the Left and are wholly dedicated to the promotion of the Democrat Party. The entire race war that is going on now is an attempt by the democrats and their agitprop promoting press to continue to garner at least 95% of the black vote. If they don’t get 90% of the black vote, the evil Orange Man cannot be defeated.
It should be emphasized that not a singe democrat leader has denounced the rioting, looting, and arson perpetrated by the BLM and Antifa Marxists.
Given blacks comprise c14% of the US population, aiming to get all of them to vote Democrat, but doing so in a way that antagonises the rest, including the 60% of whites, seems a remarkably short-sighted approach, and not likely to succeed.
The Democrat Party/media are also hoping that the chaos will turn not just blacks, but previous Trump voters against him in the upcoming election. That is what all of the last four years’ insanity has been about.
If I care to think about it I suppose i have two mixed race grandchildren but I never do think about it. Why should I ? . The current push by the media to fan racial division in England is something that media will deny . But to me it looks as if we are putting back race relations a generation at least if not more. This country is nothing like the USA. I spent much time in the South years ago and soon understood just what place race played there. To an Englishman it seemed bizarre and pointless.
One thing I soon understood was that black and white were very much Americans and that they were different in attitudes both black and white to Europeans but alike to each other. .
What is going on here is deplorable and the media carries much of the responsibility. Pulling down statues! Give me a break. Nobody much cared about them when they were there . What is being risked is the inevitable reaction. That would be a disaster .
I find it laughably naive to think, as much of the commentariat seem to, that this desire to focus relentlessly on race and racial conflict will result in less racism. They’re attempting to fight racism by creating a notion of race guilt and history tells us this never ever ends well.
It’s all driven by middle class white guilt. If it doesn’t stop soon it will end very badly.
Basically what these people seem to be saying is “black good, white bad”. A bit like a Cambridge academic gets promoted after saying white lives don’t matter and a Burnley factory worker gets the sack after saying white lives matter. It’s a funny old world
“today’s left-modernist offense archaeologists outdo each other in trying to reframe the world as racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, and so on. Turning the principle of charity on its head, they insist on the most suspicious interpretation of a person’s motives when the subject matter is associated with their canonical totems of race, gender, sexuality…….The result is an atmosphere where inter-personal trust is as low as humanly possible while discursive power flows to the accuser. The new cultural revolutionaries have constructed our emotional and conceptual reality”
Excerpt from a brilliant and timely essay. https://quillette.com/2020/…
“Turning the principle of charity on its head, they insist on the most suspicious interpretation of a person’s motives”
Both sides do this. Indeed this quote does too. I think it’s driven by social media: so easy to find the worst possible examples of your opponents and claim they are typical.
Some people are too clever for their own good. They are making up distinctions that make no sense to ordinary people and are blatantly one-sided. To use another cliche, it’s almost beyond parody.
A very charitable take on the matter. I would be tempted to call them deluded, or maybe just thick.
Or maybe they are just have malign intentions – and understand exactly what they are doing.
Who is pulling the strings of these puppets? Is it China? Apparently China has been running cyber-warfare through hundreds of thousands of accounts on Twitter along with Russia and Turkey. The world is stuffed with the barely educated – even if they have university degrees – and many are very easy prey for those intent on manipulating with fake news and fake historical accounts in order to bring about the chaos that would serve there own nefarious ends.
Can we stop blaming Russia and China for the effluent flowing from the fever swamps of the American university system.
Another load of drivel, the issue is driven by marxist anarchist of blm etc and idiotic journalism trying to make money by selling copy.
In the U.S. where statements about, for example, Italians or Poles are sometimes condemned as “racist”, it’s no wonder there’s confusion about race and ethnicity.
In the USA the language of divisiveness has been around for a while now, when describing a person the media regularly use terms such as African American, Italian American etc …..
Any surprise that this profiling has a sting in its tail ?
“In turning black Americans into a new Black ethnic group”
Surely, Black people were already defined as a distinct ethnic group in pre-Civil Rights US? The argument is over to what extent this has disappeared, no?
Feeling threatened are we? Can anybody commenting here think of any reasons why Blacks might be reluctant to trust whites?? No?