Musk is the digital Trump. ‘Everyone’ hates him because… let’s try and find or fabricate some ‘reasons’…
Personally I dislike the use of ‘hate’ as a preposition before speech or crimes. There are already laws to deal with criminal matters. Sticking a ‘Hate’ in front just encourages people with ‘hurt’ feelings to make an allegation (often on behalf of others).
Quite right. I agree.
As someone who, somewhat naively, voted for multi-multiculturalism in my country (South Africa), First: for the the ending of “white” rule, (the un-banning of all political parties) and then the universal franchise elections in 1994. I now realise that [We] are not one, but multi-cultures with (and mostly at odds with another), distinct views to how South Africa should function. Hence the obsession with the ruling party, ANC and others who shout racism at the drop of a hat – when it is pointed out that the are willfully incompetent and unsuited for the positions they hold.
How we solve this problem is complicated, with the far left intransigence to think logically and without malice. They have been brainwashed over many decades by the communists who were never liberal in to start with.
Multi-ethnic is fine, and can work well. Multi-cultural is not, and never works. Problems start when wishy-washy liberals use language sloppily, and attempt to conflate culture with ethnicity.
Multi-ethnic is fine, and can work well. Multi-cultural is not, and never works. Problems start when wishy-washy liberals use language sloppily, and attempt to conflate culture with ethnicity.
I’m less concerned about Twitter (never used it!) than the policing of speech in daily life.
This Woke enthusiasm for defining and denouncing ‘Hate’ speech and thought is sold to us as a way of protecting allegedly vulnerable identity groups from hurtful and even dangerous comment.
In fact, as with so many Woke tactics, it is really a subtle form of subversion. The wellbeing of the victims is not the real issue. The aim is to discredit the culture and people of the developed world as deeply flawed morally – deficient in those virtues the Woke do-gooders insist we should value above all others: care, compassion and inclusiveness.
Obviously you must have “contempt” for a myriad of rock stars who gave their off spring weird and wonderful names. “A boy named Sue” from the Inimitable – Johnny Cash!
Obviously you must have “contempt” for a myriad of rock stars who gave their off spring weird and wonderful names. “A boy named Sue” from the Inimitable – Johnny Cash!
Quite right. I agree.
As someone who, somewhat naively, voted for multi-multiculturalism in my country (South Africa), First: for the the ending of “white” rule, (the un-banning of all political parties) and then the universal franchise elections in 1994. I now realise that [We] are not one, but multi-cultures with (and mostly at odds with another), distinct views to how South Africa should function. Hence the obsession with the ruling party, ANC and others who shout racism at the drop of a hat – when it is pointed out that the are willfully incompetent and unsuited for the positions they hold.
How we solve this problem is complicated, with the far left intransigence to think logically and without malice. They have been brainwashed over many decades by the communists who were never liberal in to start with.
I’m less concerned about Twitter (never used it!) than the policing of speech in daily life.
This Woke enthusiasm for defining and denouncing ‘Hate’ speech and thought is sold to us as a way of protecting allegedly vulnerable identity groups from hurtful and even dangerous comment.
In fact, as with so many Woke tactics, it is really a subtle form of subversion. The wellbeing of the victims is not the real issue. The aim is to discredit the culture and people of the developed world as deeply flawed morally – deficient in those virtues the Woke do-gooders insist we should value above all others: care, compassion and inclusiveness.
Hate? No. Contempt? Yes.
Mainly because he’s a t**t.
He called his child “X Æ A-12”.
QED.
AC Harper
1 year ago
Musk is the digital Trump. ‘Everyone’ hates him because… let’s try and find or fabricate some ‘reasons’…
Personally I dislike the use of ‘hate’ as a preposition before speech or crimes. There are already laws to deal with criminal matters. Sticking a ‘Hate’ in front just encourages people with ‘hurt’ feelings to make an allegation (often on behalf of others).
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
If you judge a man by his enemies then Musk is clearly some kind of secular saint.
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
If you judge a man by his enemies then Musk is clearly some kind of secular saint.
Andrew Buckley
1 year ago
Hate speech in far too many (if not most) cases really means something that “I” disagree with.
Exactly. Your use of those quotation marks hits the nail on the head. They point to the fact that all speech is hateful. Unless of course one could manage to saying something with which no one could disagree.
Exactly. Your use of those quotation marks hits the nail on the head. They point to the fact that all speech is hateful. Unless of course one could manage to saying something with which no one could disagree.
Andrew Buckley
1 year ago
Hate speech in far too many (if not most) cases really means something that “I” disagree with.
Ian McKinney
1 year ago
My experience of twitter recently would suggest that the rise in the c-word is driven almost exclusively by Trans Rights Activists, who positively love the word and can barely go for more than two tweets without using it (usually aimed at an adult human female).
Ian McKinney
1 year ago
My experience of twitter recently would suggest that the rise in the c-word is driven almost exclusively by Trans Rights Activists, who positively love the word and can barely go for more than two tweets without using it (usually aimed at an adult human female).
Caty Gonzales
1 year ago
“Amnesty International carried out a survey in which they asked “LGBTQ+ activists” whether they had experienced an increase in abusive speech on Twitter since Musk took over. Among respondents, 60% said they had experienced an increase, with the remaining 40% saying they had experienced the same level as before; none had experienced a decrease.”
I’m not sure I would trust this self reporting given that Elon Musk is a hate-figure among much of the “LGBTQ+ activist” crowd.
Caty Gonzales
1 year ago
“Amnesty International carried out a survey in which they asked “LGBTQ+ activists” whether they had experienced an increase in abusive speech on Twitter since Musk took over. Among respondents, 60% said they had experienced an increase, with the remaining 40% saying they had experienced the same level as before; none had experienced a decrease.”
I’m not sure I would trust this self reporting given that Elon Musk is a hate-figure among much of the “LGBTQ+ activist” crowd.
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago
I’m not surprised but thank you for providing the data which most of us do not have access to.
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago
I’m not surprised but thank you for providing the data which most of us do not have access to.
Toby Aldrich
1 year ago
I lament the increase in the use of the C-word on Twitter and elsewhere. It devalues it. It is a wonderful word that must be used sparingly and only on the occasions when it is really merited.
Maybe https://queens-english-society.org/ could issue guidance?
Just as a matter of interest, shouldn’t this society rename itself to bring itself uptodate with the change in monarch?
Toby Aldrich
1 year ago
I lament the increase in the use of the C-word on Twitter and elsewhere. It devalues it. It is a wonderful word that must be used sparingly and only on the occasions when it is really merited.
Maybe https://queens-english-society.org/ could issue guidance?
Philip Burrell
1 year ago
To be honest who cares whether it has got better or worse. It was toxic before Musk and it continues to be toxic after he took over. Serious journalists including those who write for Unherd would be much better off completely ignoring Twitter. It might just disappear if that happened although Elon is not doing a bad job at destroying it himself!
Philip Burrell
1 year ago
To be honest who cares whether it has got better or worse. It was toxic before Musk and it continues to be toxic after he took over. Serious journalists including those who write for Unherd would be much better off completely ignoring Twitter. It might just disappear if that happened although Elon is not doing a bad job at destroying it himself!
nadine chandler
1 year ago
Well, hate speech against women has increased, but I guess that doesn’t matter, right?
nadine chandler
1 year ago
Well, hate speech against women has increased, but I guess that doesn’t matter, right?
Steven Carr
1 year ago
No increase in hate speech under Elon Musk?
I don’t use Twitter, but I am reliably informed there was a veritable deluge of Auschwitz memes very recently.
As I understand it, those who opposed his takeover of Twitter began to post racist comments just to prove how racist Elon Musk is. It’s like repeatedly punching someone in the face until they finally punch back and then crowing about how you knew they were violent all along.
The article mentions the increase at the start of his reign, which incidentally was driven by a handful of Discord raiders and 4channers posting the N word hundreds of times to drive these incidences up so as to laugh at it as well as ‘own the libs’ through explicit mockery of the Holocaust.
As I understand it, those who opposed his takeover of Twitter began to post racist comments just to prove how racist Elon Musk is. It’s like repeatedly punching someone in the face until they finally punch back and then crowing about how you knew they were violent all along.
The article mentions the increase at the start of his reign, which incidentally was driven by a handful of Discord raiders and 4channers posting the N word hundreds of times to drive these incidences up so as to laugh at it as well as ‘own the libs’ through explicit mockery of the Holocaust.
Steven Carr
1 year ago
No increase in hate speech under Elon Musk?
I don’t use Twitter, but I am reliably informed there was a veritable deluge of Auschwitz memes very recently.
Musk is the digital Trump. ‘Everyone’ hates him because… let’s try and find or fabricate some ‘reasons’…
Personally I dislike the use of ‘hate’ as a preposition before speech or crimes. There are already laws to deal with criminal matters. Sticking a ‘Hate’ in front just encourages people with ‘hurt’ feelings to make an allegation (often on behalf of others).
Quite right. I agree.
As someone who, somewhat naively, voted for multi-multiculturalism in my country (South Africa), First: for the the ending of “white” rule, (the un-banning of all political parties) and then the universal franchise elections in 1994. I now realise that [We] are not one, but multi-cultures with (and mostly at odds with another), distinct views to how South Africa should function. Hence the obsession with the ruling party, ANC and others who shout racism at the drop of a hat – when it is pointed out that the are willfully incompetent and unsuited for the positions they hold.
How we solve this problem is complicated, with the far left intransigence to think logically and without malice. They have been brainwashed over many decades by the communists who were never liberal in to start with.
Multi-ethnic is fine, and can work well. Multi-cultural is not, and never works. Problems start when wishy-washy liberals use language sloppily, and attempt to conflate culture with ethnicity.
Multi-ethnic is fine, and can work well. Multi-cultural is not, and never works. Problems start when wishy-washy liberals use language sloppily, and attempt to conflate culture with ethnicity.
I’m less concerned about Twitter (never used it!) than the policing of speech in daily life.
This Woke enthusiasm for defining and denouncing ‘Hate’ speech and thought is sold to us as a way of protecting allegedly vulnerable identity groups from hurtful and even dangerous comment.
In fact, as with so many Woke tactics, it is really a subtle form of subversion. The wellbeing of the victims is not the real issue. The aim is to discredit the culture and people of the developed world as deeply flawed morally – deficient in those virtues the Woke do-gooders insist we should value above all others: care, compassion and inclusiveness.
Hate? No. Contempt? Yes.
Mainly because he’s a t**t.
He called his child “X Æ A-12”.
QED.
Obviously you must have “contempt” for a myriad of rock stars who gave their off spring weird and wonderful names. “A boy named Sue” from the Inimitable – Johnny Cash!
Don’t forget Grace Slick’s daughter, god (with a little “g” for humility).
Don’t forget Grace Slick’s daughter, god (with a little “g” for humility).
Obviously you must have “contempt” for a myriad of rock stars who gave their off spring weird and wonderful names. “A boy named Sue” from the Inimitable – Johnny Cash!
Quite right. I agree.
As someone who, somewhat naively, voted for multi-multiculturalism in my country (South Africa), First: for the the ending of “white” rule, (the un-banning of all political parties) and then the universal franchise elections in 1994. I now realise that [We] are not one, but multi-cultures with (and mostly at odds with another), distinct views to how South Africa should function. Hence the obsession with the ruling party, ANC and others who shout racism at the drop of a hat – when it is pointed out that the are willfully incompetent and unsuited for the positions they hold.
How we solve this problem is complicated, with the far left intransigence to think logically and without malice. They have been brainwashed over many decades by the communists who were never liberal in to start with.
I’m less concerned about Twitter (never used it!) than the policing of speech in daily life.
This Woke enthusiasm for defining and denouncing ‘Hate’ speech and thought is sold to us as a way of protecting allegedly vulnerable identity groups from hurtful and even dangerous comment.
In fact, as with so many Woke tactics, it is really a subtle form of subversion. The wellbeing of the victims is not the real issue. The aim is to discredit the culture and people of the developed world as deeply flawed morally – deficient in those virtues the Woke do-gooders insist we should value above all others: care, compassion and inclusiveness.
Hate? No. Contempt? Yes.
Mainly because he’s a t**t.
He called his child “X Æ A-12”.
QED.
Musk is the digital Trump. ‘Everyone’ hates him because… let’s try and find or fabricate some ‘reasons’…
Personally I dislike the use of ‘hate’ as a preposition before speech or crimes. There are already laws to deal with criminal matters. Sticking a ‘Hate’ in front just encourages people with ‘hurt’ feelings to make an allegation (often on behalf of others).
If you judge a man by his enemies then Musk is clearly some kind of secular saint.
If you judge a man by his enemies then Musk is clearly some kind of secular saint.
Hate speech in far too many (if not most) cases really means something that “I” disagree with.
Exactly. Your use of those quotation marks hits the nail on the head. They point to the fact that all speech is hateful. Unless of course one could manage to saying something with which no one could disagree.
Exactly. Your use of those quotation marks hits the nail on the head. They point to the fact that all speech is hateful. Unless of course one could manage to saying something with which no one could disagree.
Hate speech in far too many (if not most) cases really means something that “I” disagree with.
My experience of twitter recently would suggest that the rise in the c-word is driven almost exclusively by Trans Rights Activists, who positively love the word and can barely go for more than two tweets without using it (usually aimed at an adult human female).
My experience of twitter recently would suggest that the rise in the c-word is driven almost exclusively by Trans Rights Activists, who positively love the word and can barely go for more than two tweets without using it (usually aimed at an adult human female).
“Amnesty International carried out a survey in which they asked “LGBTQ+ activists” whether they had experienced an increase in abusive speech on Twitter since Musk took over. Among respondents, 60% said they had experienced an increase, with the remaining 40% saying they had experienced the same level as before; none had experienced a decrease.”
I’m not sure I would trust this self reporting given that Elon Musk is a hate-figure among much of the “LGBTQ+ activist” crowd.
“Amnesty International carried out a survey in which they asked “LGBTQ+ activists” whether they had experienced an increase in abusive speech on Twitter since Musk took over. Among respondents, 60% said they had experienced an increase, with the remaining 40% saying they had experienced the same level as before; none had experienced a decrease.”
I’m not sure I would trust this self reporting given that Elon Musk is a hate-figure among much of the “LGBTQ+ activist” crowd.
I’m not surprised but thank you for providing the data which most of us do not have access to.
I’m not surprised but thank you for providing the data which most of us do not have access to.
I lament the increase in the use of the C-word on Twitter and elsewhere. It devalues it. It is a wonderful word that must be used sparingly and only on the occasions when it is really merited.
Maybe https://queens-english-society.org/ could issue guidance?
I think the C-word should have died with Alf Garnett and Till Death Us Do Part.
Just as a matter of interest, shouldn’t this society rename itself to bring itself uptodate with the change in monarch?
I think the C-word should have died with Alf Garnett and Till Death Us Do Part.
Just as a matter of interest, shouldn’t this society rename itself to bring itself uptodate with the change in monarch?
I lament the increase in the use of the C-word on Twitter and elsewhere. It devalues it. It is a wonderful word that must be used sparingly and only on the occasions when it is really merited.
Maybe https://queens-english-society.org/ could issue guidance?
To be honest who cares whether it has got better or worse. It was toxic before Musk and it continues to be toxic after he took over. Serious journalists including those who write for Unherd would be much better off completely ignoring Twitter. It might just disappear if that happened although Elon is not doing a bad job at destroying it himself!
To be honest who cares whether it has got better or worse. It was toxic before Musk and it continues to be toxic after he took over. Serious journalists including those who write for Unherd would be much better off completely ignoring Twitter. It might just disappear if that happened although Elon is not doing a bad job at destroying it himself!
Well, hate speech against women has increased, but I guess that doesn’t matter, right?
Well, hate speech against women has increased, but I guess that doesn’t matter, right?
No increase in hate speech under Elon Musk?
I don’t use Twitter, but I am reliably informed there was a veritable deluge of Auschwitz memes very recently.
As I understand it, those who opposed his takeover of Twitter began to post racist comments just to prove how racist Elon Musk is. It’s like repeatedly punching someone in the face until they finally punch back and then crowing about how you knew they were violent all along.
The article mentions the increase at the start of his reign, which incidentally was driven by a handful of Discord raiders and 4channers posting the N word hundreds of times to drive these incidences up so as to laugh at it as well as ‘own the libs’ through explicit mockery of the Holocaust.
As I understand it, those who opposed his takeover of Twitter began to post racist comments just to prove how racist Elon Musk is. It’s like repeatedly punching someone in the face until they finally punch back and then crowing about how you knew they were violent all along.
The article mentions the increase at the start of his reign, which incidentally was driven by a handful of Discord raiders and 4channers posting the N word hundreds of times to drive these incidences up so as to laugh at it as well as ‘own the libs’ through explicit mockery of the Holocaust.
No increase in hate speech under Elon Musk?
I don’t use Twitter, but I am reliably informed there was a veritable deluge of Auschwitz memes very recently.