‘And what about the Trump Voters?’ ‘The roughly half the country who supported him, what are they thinking?’ is in Freddie’s opening statement, and so…..
We are devastated, we are thinking we lost a war we did not know was being fought, and the side against America seems to have won thus far.
We see the Nation we love being intentionally destroyed by the hard Left, The multicultural nation being broken into pieces by a manufactured Racist policy created to divide all the peoples into opposite camps, and bring in hate where tolerance once was (CRT, 1619, BLM, gender issues, and so on). We see crime being purposefully increased so a police state may be established by stealth, as Police, Courts, and Prisons are said to be Racist and so must be reduced, and thus cameras, and surveillance of every kind are required instead. The criminal comes ahead of the victim now. The Criminal IS the victum – according to the Left.
We see the nation’s economy being destroyed by insane levels of Fiscal stimulus money printing, and crazy monetary policy, driving inflation sky high wile interest being kept zero so all savings will be destroyed, and the people more and more dependent on Government hand outs. We see the USA $ being devalued soon, possibly the ‘ USA $ Reserve Status’ being lost and Poverty coming. then soon a CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) so all must have ‘Digital Wallets’ on phones we must carry, and accounts with the FED instead of private banks, so every moment of our lives, every penny in or out, every GPS movement is tracked and accounted – and thus UBI will begin, and so total control.
We see the Billionaire, Tech, Social Media, MSM, Entertainment and Education industry joining with the radical Left Democrats to lock the world for ever into a socialist prison.
We see open borders. (Being a tradesman our money and jobs are GONE unless you are a skilled, lead, person – otherwise illegals will take all the unskilled jobs (They all ready have 50% of them here already)).
We see education being ‘Re-Education with the total re-writing of history, politics, literature, and school about social engineering instead of education.
We see 1984, or not, if the Radical Left can be pushed out and sanity return. In UK Corbyn took the Labour Party too left, too fast, and so they are gone from power for decades. The great hope is the same happens here, and the country can heal.
I’m completely with you, Sanford. As a recent legal immigrant to the United States I am gobsmacked by how many supposedly-intelligent people have been ‘educated’ to hate their people and their country – all in the name of diversity and equity. There’s a level of mass stupidity here that comes not from simple ignorance, but from actively buying into an education and media complex that does nothing but spread lies.
Lesley van Reenen
2 years ago
For an outsider, American politics can be both interesting and mystifying. He of course touched on voter fraud as well. The fact that it was discussed yesterday that some of the foremost democracies in the world do not require ID at their voting stations, rocks me back on my heels. South Africa, a poor new democracy at the tip of Africa requires voter registration beforehand and on the day, formal identification is required and your thumb is ‘indelibly’ inked across flesh and nail. People visit voting stations to vote and these are monitored.
Interesting insights into the 2020 Trump campaign and I’m glad to hear about the creation of Getter. It’s one attempt to push back against the cancel culture promoted by Big Tech.
Otherwise, despite Freddie’s best attempts to draw him out, this was a slick and somewhat bland interview by a seasoned communications specialist. The chance of us ever learning anything new was always quite small.
This is the first Freddy guest where he did not so much try to ‘draw him out’ as to try to ‘Trip him up’. The many times in the middle of it when Freddy was demanding he give us a ‘Struggle Session’ and admit the failed court appeal attempts at fixing the corruption in the voting showed that the corruption in fact did not exist; (it did, but as the guest explained many times, the courts were just NOT going to overturn the illegal votes as the individuals made them not understanding the laws had been broken.) That the Jan 6 was Trump’s fault (it was not), that the campaign failed (despite the entire Social Media, Tech, and MSM being 100% partisan on Biden’s side, and rabidly against Trump’s)and so on, showed Freddy did wish to make this into as much of a debate as an interview….And I felt the Guest won.
But then Unherd did let the Trump side get some time, which is rare with virtually the entire MSM, Social Media, education, and entertainment industries being 100% pathologically anti Trump, and pro the Far Left Democrat side.
Why shouldn’t he run? Who are you to say who can and cannot run? You are not obliged to vote for him. I am getting a little tired of under-age yanks running around the world, telling all and sundry what they can and cannot do..
It would be useful to know why you have that opinion. A blank statement tells us nothing as to whether you want a different Republican to run, or whether you think Trump might be a threat to Democrats, or why you have a problem with Trump running. It’s all skin and no sausage.
As you asked, there are many reasons why I think he should not run. I would prefer a different Republican to get the nomination. Firstly, his age nullifies one of the Republicans main arguments against Biden (should Biden run again in 2024). Trump can’t help but make everything about him personally and this detracts from the issues, this probably cost the Republicans the run offs in Georgia. Trump also has a bad habit of throwing those who support him under a bus. Looking back at the 2020 election it is notable the gap between the results of the Republicans at the House and State level and his results. That said, there is a role for him and he has dedicated supporters who may not turn out to vote if he isn’t there. Ideally, he would support another candidate and encourage his supporters to as well.
“Apologies, I thought this was a comment section where I could post my opinion.”
Your first post was a partisan, political, statement, not an opinion. Your reply added nothing more.
An extremely interesting kind of poster floods much of ‘Comment sections’ elsewhere, one not many even have heard of, and is well worth a search – the Wumao, a member of ‘The Fifty Cent Army’ These are Chinese posters (they were said to receive a tiny bit of money for each post, hence the name, but in reality it was just something some people were expected to do)
Their posts were one liners very much along your line, and then the rest would post ‘I Agree!’, or ‘Yes, he is an idiot’, sort of posts, and the thread would be broken as no one could debate as the masses of jabber kept reasoned answers way down the page and unable to respond.
Only if it’s interesting or informative. Yours, sadly, was neither.
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Joe Donovan
2 years ago
People in the center, like me, are going to decide the 2024 election. I don’t see Donald Trump capturing that cohort, however abysmal the Democratic candidate may be (this means you, Kamala). People will still remember with near despair the day-to-day Trump-fed chaos we lived through for four years. And, whatever this guy may say about the events of Jan 6, they easily COULD have led to an unprecedented governmental crisis if, for example, Nancy Pelosi got stomped on in her office. No, Trump did not ask his supporters to do this, but he was absolutely reckless in his post-election messaging. The Republicans have a unique opportunity in 2022 and 2024 to rescue us from the left-wing nonsense, but they need a responsible leader to carry the flag in this endeavour.
I hate to burst your bubble, Joe, but if you’re not going to vote for Trump “however abysmal the Democratic candidate may be”, then you’re not in the “center”, are you?
‘And what about the Trump Voters?’ ‘The roughly half the country who supported him, what are they thinking?’ is in Freddie’s opening statement, and so…..
We are devastated, we are thinking we lost a war we did not know was being fought, and the side against America seems to have won thus far.
We see the Nation we love being intentionally destroyed by the hard Left, The multicultural nation being broken into pieces by a manufactured Racist policy created to divide all the peoples into opposite camps, and bring in hate where tolerance once was (CRT, 1619, BLM, gender issues, and so on). We see crime being purposefully increased so a police state may be established by stealth, as Police, Courts, and Prisons are said to be Racist and so must be reduced, and thus cameras, and surveillance of every kind are required instead. The criminal comes ahead of the victim now. The Criminal IS the victum – according to the Left.
We see the nation’s economy being destroyed by insane levels of Fiscal stimulus money printing, and crazy monetary policy, driving inflation sky high wile interest being kept zero so all savings will be destroyed, and the people more and more dependent on Government hand outs. We see the USA $ being devalued soon, possibly the ‘ USA $ Reserve Status’ being lost and Poverty coming. then soon a CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) so all must have ‘Digital Wallets’ on phones we must carry, and accounts with the FED instead of private banks, so every moment of our lives, every penny in or out, every GPS movement is tracked and accounted – and thus UBI will begin, and so total control.
We see the Billionaire, Tech, Social Media, MSM, Entertainment and Education industry joining with the radical Left Democrats to lock the world for ever into a socialist prison.
We see open borders. (Being a tradesman our money and jobs are GONE unless you are a skilled, lead, person – otherwise illegals will take all the unskilled jobs (They all ready have 50% of them here already)).
We see education being ‘Re-Education with the total re-writing of history, politics, literature, and school about social engineering instead of education.
We see 1984, or not, if the Radical Left can be pushed out and sanity return. In UK Corbyn took the Labour Party too left, too fast, and so they are gone from power for decades. The great hope is the same happens here, and the country can heal.
MAGA is our only hope.
I’m completely with you, Sanford. As a recent legal immigrant to the United States I am gobsmacked by how many supposedly-intelligent people have been ‘educated’ to hate their people and their country – all in the name of diversity and equity. There’s a level of mass stupidity here that comes not from simple ignorance, but from actively buying into an education and media complex that does nothing but spread lies.
For an outsider, American politics can be both interesting and mystifying. He of course touched on voter fraud as well. The fact that it was discussed yesterday that some of the foremost democracies in the world do not require ID at their voting stations, rocks me back on my heels.
South Africa, a poor new democracy at the tip of Africa requires voter registration beforehand and on the day, formal identification is required and your thumb is ‘indelibly’ inked across flesh and nail. People visit voting stations to vote and these are monitored.
Thanks Lesley
Interesting insights into the 2020 Trump campaign and I’m glad to hear about the creation of Getter. It’s one attempt to push back against the cancel culture promoted by Big Tech.
Otherwise, despite Freddie’s best attempts to draw him out, this was a slick and somewhat bland interview by a seasoned communications specialist. The chance of us ever learning anything new was always quite small.
This is the first Freddy guest where he did not so much try to ‘draw him out’ as to try to ‘Trip him up’. The many times in the middle of it when Freddy was demanding he give us a ‘Struggle Session’ and admit the failed court appeal attempts at fixing the corruption in the voting showed that the corruption in fact did not exist; (it did, but as the guest explained many times, the courts were just NOT going to overturn the illegal votes as the individuals made them not understanding the laws had been broken.) That the Jan 6 was Trump’s fault (it was not), that the campaign failed (despite the entire Social Media, Tech, and MSM being 100% partisan on Biden’s side, and rabidly against Trump’s)and so on, showed Freddy did wish to make this into as much of a debate as an interview….And I felt the Guest won.
But then Unherd did let the Trump side get some time, which is rare with virtually the entire MSM, Social Media, education, and entertainment industries being 100% pathologically anti Trump, and pro the Far Left Democrat side.
Please do not run again! No Trump 2024.
Why shouldn’t he run? Who are you to say who can and cannot run? You are not obliged to vote for him. I am getting a little tired of under-age yanks running around the world, telling all and sundry what they can and cannot do..
I think Cat Fan was expressing a heartfelt hope that he will not run again. Who are you to say that he/she cannot say that?
Apologies, I thought this was a comment section where I could post my opinion.
It would be useful to know why you have that opinion. A blank statement tells us nothing as to whether you want a different Republican to run, or whether you think Trump might be a threat to Democrats, or why you have a problem with Trump running. It’s all skin and no sausage.
As you asked, there are many reasons why I think he should not run. I would prefer a different Republican to get the nomination. Firstly, his age nullifies one of the Republicans main arguments against Biden (should Biden run again in 2024). Trump can’t help but make everything about him personally and this detracts from the issues, this probably cost the Republicans the run offs in Georgia. Trump also has a bad habit of throwing those who support him under a bus. Looking back at the 2020 election it is notable the gap between the results of the Republicans at the House and State level and his results. That said, there is a role for him and he has dedicated supporters who may not turn out to vote if he isn’t there. Ideally, he would support another candidate and encourage his supporters to as well.
Me too
“Apologies, I thought this was a comment section where I could post my opinion.”
Your first post was a partisan, political, statement, not an opinion. Your reply added nothing more.
An extremely interesting kind of poster floods much of ‘Comment sections’ elsewhere, one not many even have heard of, and is well worth a search – the Wumao, a member of ‘The Fifty Cent Army’ These are Chinese posters (they were said to receive a tiny bit of money for each post, hence the name, but in reality it was just something some people were expected to do)
Their posts were one liners very much along your line, and then the rest would post ‘I Agree!’, or ‘Yes, he is an idiot’, sort of posts, and the thread would be broken as no one could debate as the masses of jabber kept reasoned answers way down the page and unable to respond.
Only if it’s interesting or informative. Yours, sadly, was neither.
People in the center, like me, are going to decide the 2024 election. I don’t see Donald Trump capturing that cohort, however abysmal the Democratic candidate may be (this means you, Kamala). People will still remember with near despair the day-to-day Trump-fed chaos we lived through for four years. And, whatever this guy may say about the events of Jan 6, they easily COULD have led to an unprecedented governmental crisis if, for example, Nancy Pelosi got stomped on in her office. No, Trump did not ask his supporters to do this, but he was absolutely reckless in his post-election messaging. The Republicans have a unique opportunity in 2022 and 2024 to rescue us from the left-wing nonsense, but they need a responsible leader to carry the flag in this endeavour.
What many of us are witnessing from the outside is a significantly far worse USA under the Dems. And it is going downhill fast.
I hate to burst your bubble, Joe, but if you’re not going to vote for Trump “however abysmal the Democratic candidate may be”, then you’re not in the “center”, are you?