I would suggest that the *cold war mentality ” has made us more aware of the freedoms Ukraine enjoyed since being freed from Russian domination after the collapse of the USSR.
Alexander Morrison
1 year ago
In Britain, at least, older people tend to have more economic security. That is probably also a factor.
Made very clear in the last line of the piece. We all tailor our opinions to our pockets- except politicians, who tailor them to other people’s pockets.
I do not tailor my opinions to my pocket; I try to support what I think is right even if it costs me, and I know of others that do too, even those who are not financially secure.
Precisely. Personally Brexit was against my own interests, but I believed that it was the better option for Britain, which I believe I said to a the pollster on a phone poll.
Me too. It would have suited my selfish interests far better to remain in the EU, but I could not vote for such a thing in good conscience. Continued membership would have led to the wholesale theft of democratic power from millions of people in the UK whose basic rights depend upon it, and there was simply no way I could knowingly vote for such a thing.
Yes, but where does that economic security come from? Older people work less but have pension and property rights that enable them to maintain purchasing power in the highly automated economies we all inhabit. This relative economic power is surely set to take a hammering in the event that energy becomes significantly more scarce.
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Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Younger people, fortunately, did not live through the Cold War so they did not see the economic damage done by the Soviet Union (in effect Russia) to their colonies. This what Mr Putin wants a return to, Russia lording over its client states.
martin logan
1 year ago
I suspect it’s because older people simply have a greater knowledge of history, particularly European political history.
Sadly, classic political history is now often subordinated to the histories of very narrow categories of people (who actually have had little ability to affect the overall course of events). That in turn ill prepares one for the timeless political dynamics that are coming to life once again.
And the main political lesson in both British and European history is that any single regime that seeks to dominate the continent is either destroyed, or at the very least constrained. No exceptions. And for about 500 years.
Not too late to bone up on political history, however. Education really should last one’s whole life.
Young people largely get their news from social media and internet influencers. And they have a culture of subjectivity wherein objective ethical distinctions have become unfashionable. Putin is entitled to “his truth” etc. And isn’t the West nasty too? Etc. Join the dots.
This is an excellent precis of what is happening.
Putin’s great spin-doctor Vladislav Surkov was after all born from the post-modernist art scene and knew how to mould his subjects.
Adam McDermont
1 year ago
I believe the UK should strive for energy self sufficiency. Neoliberal policies are beggining to appear palpably unwise. I can’t say I lament this.
For different reasons, elements of the Western left and right both are eager to roll over for Putin. The left, because their dislike of the West blinds them to the ugly colonial reality of Russia – the “enemy of my enemies must be my friend” fallacy. The right, because they admire a conservative white nationalist. At this rate, Neville Chamberlain shortly will be viewed as a political visionary. In principle, it’s analogous to the police requiring a burgled householder to negotiate with a violent burglar, taking care not to humiliate the burglar, and perhaps agreeing to let him move into the attic.
Alex Stonor
1 year ago
Compared to the older age groups, young people have been effectively living under sanctions in this country: restricted housing, incomes, access to education; they know what it feels like. Sanctions don’t work, they impact those who have less choice in life.
In the case of Russia they are even less likely to work because of the cold war; they are highly self-sufficient & resilient to hardship. No doubt Vladimir Putin can afford a new ivory back scratcher if he needs one.
Actually, they are working, at least according to a Yale study.
Russia still ahs to import all its chips–which Taiwan and South Korea, the two largest producers, have helpfully stopped sending.
martin logan
1 year ago
Despite their access to all sorts of things on the internet, many apparently do not see Russia’s petro-industry as one of the main sources of global warming on the planet. Ditto for the vast fires it creates in Siberia (and the release of unprecedented quantities of methane).
Putin wants Europe to become more addicted to a carbon future, not less. HIs attack on Ukraine is simply part of that overall plan.
But it’s doubtful you’ll find it on TikTok…
William Hickey
1 year ago
The author wrote: “The likely effect…will be a costly reorganisation of global markets. Russian oil will be diverted East, while Europe will buy more from the Gulf states.”
Now watch how much more accepting European autocrats will become to Middle Eastern immigration and to Islam, no matter what their voters think about those two things.
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Millenials – aren’t they the ones who have no interest in news, or who glean their knowledge of the world from social media feeds, which they’re too ignorant to appreciate are issuing news with an agenda?
Ian Gribbin
1 year ago
You’re right. The older generations are anachronisms.
Thank god, we need a less bellicose population – all it does is cost us heaps of money, piling on the national debt and cost lives.
Time to focus inwards and stop worrying what other nations are doing.
When you say “Other nations” do you mean other nations which are imposing sanctions or do you mean other nations such as Russia? Don’t we have to take into account what other nations are doing because what they do might affect us?
I would suggest that the *cold war mentality ” has made us more aware of the freedoms Ukraine enjoyed since being freed from Russian domination after the collapse of the USSR.
In Britain, at least, older people tend to have more economic security. That is probably also a factor.
Made very clear in the last line of the piece. We all tailor our opinions to our pockets- except politicians, who tailor them to other people’s pockets.
I do not tailor my opinions to my pocket; I try to support what I think is right even if it costs me, and I know of others that do too, even those who are not financially secure.
I voted for Brexit because it furthered the interests of ordinary people, despite being against my interests as a posh Tory prat.
Precisely. Personally Brexit was against my own interests, but I believed that it was the better option for Britain, which I believe I said to a the pollster on a phone poll.
Me too. It would have suited my selfish interests far better to remain in the EU, but I could not vote for such a thing in good conscience. Continued membership would have led to the wholesale theft of democratic power from millions of people in the UK whose basic rights depend upon it, and there was simply no way I could knowingly vote for such a thing.
Yes, but where does that economic security come from? Older people work less but have pension and property rights that enable them to maintain purchasing power in the highly automated economies we all inhabit. This relative economic power is surely set to take a hammering in the event that energy becomes significantly more scarce.
Younger people, fortunately, did not live through the Cold War so they did not see the economic damage done by the Soviet Union (in effect Russia) to their colonies. This what Mr Putin wants a return to, Russia lording over its client states.
I suspect it’s because older people simply have a greater knowledge of history, particularly European political history.
Sadly, classic political history is now often subordinated to the histories of very narrow categories of people (who actually have had little ability to affect the overall course of events). That in turn ill prepares one for the timeless political dynamics that are coming to life once again.
And the main political lesson in both British and European history is that any single regime that seeks to dominate the continent is either destroyed, or at the very least constrained. No exceptions. And for about 500 years.
Not too late to bone up on political history, however. Education really should last one’s whole life.
Hear hear
Young people largely get their news from social media and internet influencers. And they have a culture of subjectivity wherein objective ethical distinctions have become unfashionable. Putin is entitled to “his truth” etc. And isn’t the West nasty too? Etc. Join the dots.
This is an excellent precis of what is happening.
Putin’s great spin-doctor Vladislav Surkov was after all born from the post-modernist art scene and knew how to mould his subjects.
I believe the UK should strive for energy self sufficiency. Neoliberal policies are beggining to appear palpably unwise. I can’t say I lament this.
https://theheritagesite.substack.com/
I suspect that Liberal Democrats might be more hawkish, as they are still fighting the Greenham Common war (along with the Greens)
For different reasons, elements of the Western left and right both are eager to roll over for Putin. The left, because their dislike of the West blinds them to the ugly colonial reality of Russia – the “enemy of my enemies must be my friend” fallacy. The right, because they admire a conservative white nationalist.
At this rate, Neville Chamberlain shortly will be viewed as a political visionary.
In principle, it’s analogous to the police requiring a burgled householder to negotiate with a violent burglar, taking care not to humiliate the burglar, and perhaps agreeing to let him move into the attic.
Compared to the older age groups, young people have been effectively living under sanctions in this country: restricted housing, incomes, access to education; they know what it feels like. Sanctions don’t work, they impact those who have less choice in life.
In the case of Russia they are even less likely to work because of the cold war; they are highly self-sufficient & resilient to hardship. No doubt Vladimir Putin can afford a new ivory back scratcher if he needs one.
Actually, they are working, at least according to a Yale study.
Russia still ahs to import all its chips–which Taiwan and South Korea, the two largest producers, have helpfully stopped sending.
Despite their access to all sorts of things on the internet, many apparently do not see Russia’s petro-industry as one of the main sources of global warming on the planet. Ditto for the vast fires it creates in Siberia (and the release of unprecedented quantities of methane).
Putin wants Europe to become more addicted to a carbon future, not less. HIs attack on Ukraine is simply part of that overall plan.
But it’s doubtful you’ll find it on TikTok…
The author wrote: “The likely effect…will be a costly reorganisation of global markets. Russian oil will be diverted East, while Europe will buy more from the Gulf states.”
Now watch how much more accepting European autocrats will become to Middle Eastern immigration and to Islam, no matter what their voters think about those two things.
Millenials – aren’t they the ones who have no interest in news, or who glean their knowledge of the world from social media feeds, which they’re too ignorant to appreciate are issuing news with an agenda?
You’re right. The older generations are anachronisms.
Thank god, we need a less bellicose population – all it does is cost us heaps of money, piling on the national debt and cost lives.
Time to focus inwards and stop worrying what other nations are doing.
The problem is that by focusing “inwards” you may discover to be next in the list.
When you say “Other nations” do you mean other nations which are imposing sanctions or do you mean other nations such as Russia? Don’t we have to take into account what other nations are doing because what they do might affect us?