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Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

As the West devolves into the Neo-pagan religion of the Self, I find myself becoming more and more aligned with Christian values, especially the Old Testament way of thinking. It may be anachronistic by today’s standards, but I am beginning to understand the dangers of putting Man at the center of everything. If G*d is removed from our central pillars who do we replace Him with? Jeff Bezos? Bill Gates? George Soros? The Kardashians?
I read John Milton’s Samson recently and came across this striking quote:

But what more oft, in nations grown corrupt,

And by their vices brought to servitude,

Than to love bondage more than liberty,

Bondage with ease than strenuous liberty,

And to despise, or envy, or suspect,

Whom God hath of his special favor raised

As their deliverer?

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Even though I am agnostic I accept that the moral codes that I (imperfectly) adhere to are rooted in the Christian faith. A surprising number of my fellow citizens, especially the younger ones, are so deracinated that they do not understand that simple truth.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

I come across the same particularly among the younger women in my family. They believe their enlightened ways come naturally to them without realizing they have been built up on over a thousand years of Christian philosophy and Enlightenment values.
I fear that once Christianity has been totally recast as a white supremacist movement, its ‘benevolent sexism’ will be sorely missed in a society which can no longer properly define a woman, and as a result, will expose them to the strange lusts and desires of narcissistic men who hate, fear and envy them.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Peter Hitchens said that we live in the afterglow of Christianity.

Paul Hendricks
Paul Hendricks
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes. . .

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

He is wrong. We live in the afterglow of Classic Civilisation, the legacy of Greece and Rome.
Christianity is an unnecessary aberration.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

He was wrong, we live in the afterglow of Classical Civilisation, the world of Ancient Greece and Rome.
Christianity was an unnecessary aberration, and thus an awful waste of time.

Paul Hendricks
Paul Hendricks
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Christianity will withstand the charge made in some circles that it is a white supremacist movement. After all, it claims an evident multitude of non-white faithful.

Meanwhile, the overwhelmingly white mainline Protestant churches, having embraced every voguish racial ideology, are losing members in droves.

The Catholic Church in particular proposes the answer to “narcissistic men who hate, fear and envy women” (well said). As secular society clumsily (when not hysterically) attempts to finesse the very real implications of its subjective morality, specifically in this case its literal objectification, even erasure, of women, Catholicism provides complementary roles and a much-needed restraining influence for both men and women–though perhaps especially for men in the latter case.

It is evidently too much to ask that critics learn the basics of Christian thought and history, let alone take a moment to observe the realities of Christian life; but these critics are increasingly reconsidering, even defecting, as alternatives are tried and found wanting.

Kevin Dee
Kevin Dee
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

I think they will struggle portraying it as white supremacist as it is Africans who are driving the faith forward now.

Betsy Arehart
Betsy Arehart
1 year ago
Reply to  Kevin Dee

Yes, well, those poor poverty afflicted Africans. They will abandon the faith once they become as prosperous as we Westerners. And lose their way as we have done

Last edited 1 year ago by Betsy Arehart
Daniel G
Daniel G
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

It’s because you (and definitely I) adhere to them so imperfectly that we need a perfect Christ!

Judy Johnson
Judy Johnson
1 year ago
Reply to  Daniel G

Absolutely!

Wim de Vriend
Wim de Vriend
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Very well put, between you and Milton.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Wim de Vriend

Thanks, Wim!

Mark Duffett
Mark Duffett
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

This from C.S. Lewis came to my attention in recent days, also seems quite apposite: ““Where men are forbidden to honour a king, they honour millionaires, athletes, or film stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food, and it will gobble poison.”

Mark Timmis
Mark Timmis
1 year ago

Thank you for these beautiful words, Peter!
This morning my wife (in her Sunday sermon) referenced the many roles used to describe our beloved late Queen – Monarch, Mother, Grandmother etc. But she added that of Evangelist. For many, HMQ’s Christmas message was the only Christian sermon they would hear each year. But every year 10 million+ listened.

Judy Johnson
Judy Johnson
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Timmis

I agree with your wife!

Michael Whittock
Michael Whittock
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Johnson

So do I

Geoffrey Hicking
Geoffrey Hicking
1 year ago

Charles III has it in his power as Head of the Church of England to make her a saint. Charles II did it for his father Charles I, and I cannot think of anyone who matters who’d object to it for Elizabeth Regina. She worked hard enough to deserve it.

Judy Johnson
Judy Johnson
1 year ago

She was protestant so she is already a saint; protestants believe that Jesus exchanged their sin for His perfection (and then pays the punishment so that they do not need to).

Betsy Arehart
Betsy Arehart
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Johnson

The New Testament states that if we are in Christ we are saints.

Judy Johnson
Judy Johnson
1 year ago
Reply to  Betsy Arehart

I agree.

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
1 year ago

Charles I is an Anglican Saint??

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
1 year ago
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CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

What’s happened to the ‘Edit’ facility?
My comment of yesterday seems to have incited outrage, so I wish to edit it but cannot!
Is this usual for UnHerd?

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE