January 14, 2022 - 7:00am
In 1934, Aldous Huxley wrote an article in the magazine Everyman which asked “Will the depopulation of Western Europe and North America proceed to the point of extinction or military annihilation?” He based his concern on a paper in the journal Sociological Review, which forecast that by 1976, Britain’s population would have fallen from 44 million to 33 million.
The birth rate had been falling since 1870, and people thought that it was going to carry on. A group of biologists and statisticians also put together a report predicting that the British population would drop to just 17.4 million in 2000, and 4.4 million by 2035.
They were, as we now know, wrong. Instead, after the war, there was a huge baby boom, and people started forecasting that the world faced disaster through overpopulation and that we needed to clamp down on birth rates immediately because we were all about to starve. And those people were wrong too.
This is all worth remembering when we read that “the natural population of the UK will begin to decline by the middle of the decade”, based on Office for National Statistics projections released this week. The number of births per year is falling, and is expected to be outstripped by the number of deaths by mid-decade. The concern is that it will be difficult to maintain the functions of the state — pensions, healthcare and so on — with an increasingly elderly population and fewer people of working age.
This forecast is unlikely to be as off-base as Huxley’s: we are better at these things, and besides, it’s only predicting a few years ahead. I like to keep in mind that we’ve got these things wrong before, though.
Still: if it is true, what should we do? If the goal is to increase the population, there are only two options: encourage immigration, or encourage people to have more babies.
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SubscribeThese policies don’t always work. For example, Japan is making massive payments to encourage more children but it’s making little difference.
Ironically, part of the massive increase in housing costs in the 90s/00s was due to women joining the workforce. Two earners could afford far more and we had the period of gazumping.
Making maternity benefits more generous will either increase government spending or increase company costs – which will require more taxes or more inflation which will increase the cost of living. So I don’t think this will help.
Coupled with the increase of singles (see the quillette article on how the increase in women’s education and the fall in men’s means they have a smaller pool of suitable men to date).
Yet, religious people (particularly Muslims) value family over money and so prioritise children.
The issue is this strange belief that we can have both. Sorry, it involves a sacrifice – either less money or less kids. Personally, with 4 children, I totally believe it was worth it. But most don’t. So unless you change people’s VALUES, then incentives will have limited effect.
Rich countries are very heavily geared towards two-child families. Whenever I talk to parents who have more than two children, I always find myself saying “I never thought of that”. The “family passes” for two adults and two children. Not being able to fit three car seats in the back of a car. Cars that don’t have an iso-fix point in the middle seat. Hotel rooms that fit two adults and two young children at a squeeze but won’t accommodate any more.
People carriers are our best friend!
Replacement level 2 out 2 in, sounds perfect to me.
It’s not replacement level. Accidents and other misfortunes mean the replacement level is more than two.
2.1 is replacement level. 2 is in a perfect world with no early deaths and 2.1 is for advanced countries with very high standards of living and quality and access of health care.
You’re forgetting the important thing called the working-age population. The working age population, specifically the ages 18-30 are the years people are the most innovative and is typically the time when a great mind will come up with a great idea or invention. Fewer of these people means less innovation and further fewer children to then do more innovation. We could have less demand with fewer people and thus less climate change, but 1) That’s an anti-human argument akin to saying humans are a parasite which is proof of a societal mental illness, and 2) Fewer births means less innovation thus the effects of climate change may be reduced and slowed down, but the lack of people in innovate new technologies is also lower, making it much harder to fix climate change.
Another bad thing about the falling population is the increasing number of dependents. Yes, the dependents at the bottom ages 0-14, who are not working will be fewer, but they will be working from about 15-65 and can contribute to growing the wealth and standard of living of the country. When the dependency pyramid is reversed and the age of the dependents at the top age bracket is higher than those at the bottom, the problem of there being too many old people with too few working-age people to support them becomes real and a major economic burden. A growing or stable population does not have these problems and can stable population can go on indefinitely until something out of control happens such as a natural disaster that kills a large portion of the population. The benefits of a growing population are that they typically have better mental health, perception of opportunity, real opportunity, real increases in the standard of living, real career opportunity, and real business growth potential. It is the opposite in shrinking populations. Fewer people mean fewer workers for jobs meaning less business, meaning less business opportunity, meaning less investment, meaning poorer career opportunity, meaning further expected decreases as the population continues to decline. Further, in societies with a shrinking population, the prevalence of mental and physical health problems increases such as obesity and mental illness and the society adopts viewpoints such as nihilism, the belief that nothing has any purpose (reflects the state of their shrinking society) and a very pessimistic and degenerate attitude.
Historically population growth too quickly would result in disaster in the form of famine or revolt. The big difference between now and then is our institutions. I’m not talking about democracy or any government institutions, I’m talking about the universities and the church. The Catholic Church brought about the scientific method through their belief that to understand God, we must understand what he has created (the universe). It started with building universities in the 11th century which quickly developed empiricism, a precursor to the scientific method. When the scientific method came about, for the first time in history more people meant more innovation to support the bigger population because the tools available to test ideas in ways that would produce a consistent result across many different testers existed.
The carrying capacity of the planet is estimated to be around 40 billion with modern technology in 2023. We won’t reach 11 billion at our current projections. Besides, we do want to colonize the solar system. We need a growing population for that
What Chivers doesn’t address is that subsidies and free housing of all sorts has encouraged young women to have children but that stable families (including fathers -which appear to produce a better outcome for the children) has not been, for the most part ,the result.
He is just advocating yet another piece of social engineering that will make life worse for most in practice.
I agree! It is not couples having more children, it is a case of the many women who don’t get the chance to have children at all..
The policies of governments to discourage marriage or stable partnerships was the start of the decline and maternal women were the first to suffer. Many have given their best years to a men without male commitment, he moves on to fresh pastures, making it difficult for her to find another stable relationship, within which to have children..
Perhaps the government should reverse their policies, giving tax benefits to committed couples rather than both getting single tax benefits…. or some such thing..
I disagree, I’d say financial pressures are one of the major causes of couples splitting up. If the state can make families lives that bit easier, I think you’d find more stay together.
What both of you are wrong about is that financial aid to families actually doesn’t increase birth rate in any meaningful amount. It’s shown to increase birth rate by maybe 1-2% in countries that have these financial aid plans in places, but those same countries then suffer a drop in birth rate of a few percentage points the next year. All these plans do is encourage woman who were already going to have a child, to have it earlier that they otherwise would have. This is a problem because it spikes birth rate for a year and then drops it to a new lower the next year.
Surely in all of this motivation to have more children, there needs to be a plan to mitigate against the damage the existing population already wreaks on planet earth. I’m not talking climate change – I’m talking environmental damage.
Poisoning the earth and waterways and oceans. Eroding wetlands, destroying animal species at an alarming rate – on it goes. Buying endless amount of tat – soon to be bought in a creepy Meta world where more and more people WFH and everyone’s preferences will be brought to the forefront of their shopping experience. Drones buzzing around delivering the tat within hours – contained in even more waste. Guzzling fast food in epic amounts from disposable containers until people in their giant jammies have to be winched from their beds and taken to a hospital bed in an ever more compromised health system.
So what is the future? I predict the future for the West will be more of the above and an increasing quantity of people fleeing Africa, Middle East, Central America etc to live in the Northern Hemisphere – who will of course let them in.
Sounds like Wall-E
Put on your cold rationality hat a moment and ask the forbidden question: Would the world be a better place if there were more or fewer people?
A lower birth rate would pose some problems in the medium term (one or two generations) but eventually there would be less demand and impact on the environment, less crowding and pollution. But we could still keep our technology and infrastructure.
You should always ask, and then what. What if life expectancy still grows, do you slow the birth rate down again? My observation of people who talk about over population, tend to see the solution in those who come after them.
Or other peoples kids! If people are so worried about overpopulation why don’t they just top themselves.Digntas might be the answer.
It is not clear if our technology and infrastructure would survive a steep demographic decline. I suspect our technology and infrastructure are not so robust. Already our supply chains and service industries are taking a battering from a pandemic with an infection fatality ratio of around 1%.
Exactly. I’d happily go back to the population levels of the 60s and 70s and a time when people could cook for themselves, fix their own stuff, glass was recycled, people took a trolley to the shops and didn’t get farmed off to an old folks home because their family took more responsibility for them.
Working class men particularly died in their fifties and sixties. Smoking and industrial diseases plus medicine couldn’t fix as much. Recently in Winsford. Liverpool overspill in 1960- 70s. Whole cemetery with dead before 65. Families actually didn’t need to look after oldies.
You’re forgetting the important thing called the working-age population. The working age population, specifically the ages 18-30 are the years people are the most innovative and is typically the time when a great mind will come up with a great idea or invention. Fewer of these people means less innovation and further fewer children to then do more innovation. We could have less demand with fewer people and thus less climate change, but 1) That’s an anti-human argument akin to saying humans are a parasite which is proof of a societal mental illness, and 2) Fewer births means less innovation thus the effects of climate change may be reduced and slowed down, but the lack of people in innovate new technologies is also lower, making it much harder to fix climate change.
Another bad thing about the falling population is the increasing number of dependents. Yes, the dependents at the bottom ages 0-14, who are not working will be fewer, but they will be working from about 15-65 and can contribute to growing the wealth and standard of living of the country. When the dependency pyramid is reversed and the age of the dependents at the top age bracket is higher than those at the bottom, the problem of there being too many old people with too few working-age people to support them becomes real and a major economic burden. A growing or stable population does not have these problems and can stable population can go on indefinitely until something out of control happens such as a natural disaster that kills a large portion of the population. The benefits of a growing population are that they typically have better mental health, perception of opportunity, real opportunity, real increases in the standard of living, real career opportunity, and real business growth potential. It is the opposite in shrinking populations. Fewer people mean fewer workers for jobs meaning less business, meaning less business opportunity, meaning less investment, meaning poorer career opportunity, meaning further expected decreases as the population continues to decline. Further, in societies with a shrinking population, the prevalence of mental and physical health problems increases such as obesity and mental illness and the society adopts viewpoints such as nihilism, the belief that nothing has any purpose (reflects the state of their shrinking society) and a very pessimistic and degenerate attitude.
Historically population growth too quickly would result in disaster in the form of famine or revolt. The big difference between now and then is our institutions. I’m not talking about democracy or any government institutions, I’m talking about the universities and the church. The Catholic Church brought about the scientific method through their belief that to understand God, we must understand what he has created (the universe). It started with building universities in the 11th century which quickly developed empiricism, a precursor to the scientific method. When the scientific method came about, for the first time in history more people meant more innovation to support the bigger population because the tools available to test ideas in ways that would produce a consistent result across many different testers existed.
The carrying capacity of the planet is estimated to be around 40 billion with modern technology in 2023. We won’t reach 11 billion at our current projections. Besides, we do want to colonize the solar system. We need a growing population for that
Just got back from Finland. 5m pop. Finns don’t miss another 5m people who never existed. Nearly all Finns have a möki or forest cottage in the family. Nice lifestyle as land is cheap outside the Uusima area. Their forest cover- 76%. Ours, including commercial woodland, a pathetic 7.8%. Imagine the UK with circa 40m people? Can’t? That’s because we are truly frogs being boiled slowly by urbanisation and destruction of habitat as the scenes on beaches this summer showed.
Isn’t endless ‘growth’ why we are in trouble? I don’t want billions more people crowding the planet and mostly just making up the numbers. Growth, it seems to me, is just an economic and social Ponzi scheme. We need more x so we import more x who need x so we need more x so we need more x. And so on.
This was a hoax perpetuated by alarmists in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and has to date shown no evidence of coming true nor has any of it’s prediction materialized.
Countries need population growth to increase standard of living and increase innovation. You can’t increase innovation with less people and you can’t increase standard of living when business have close due to a lack of workers.
Double income families with fewer children leads to higher levels of expendable income which drives prices up – particularly housing prices. This makes it increasingly difficult for those who want more kids or (gasp) have a parent stay at home with the kids manage to do so and still manage to pay the bills and own a home. This in turn pushes more of them to have fewer kids, increasing their expendable income and thus exaccerbating the problem. Not sure how you break that vicious cycle without imposing some pretty hefty penalties on expendable income which would certainly be very unpopular.
Just a question. According to the ONS the UK birthrate has been below replacement rate since 1973 but the UK population has been steadily increasing since at least 1960. World population is still increasing. Does that mean that the low birthrate in the UK is not really a problem and that it simply means that world population is just redistributing?
Nope! The UK population has been increasing in part due to population lag i.e. still more young born than old dying and thus the population “grows” even though the young being born are not numerous enough to replace those that birthed them. The increase can also be explained by immigration, which is a very short-term and narrow-minded solution to the problem. Eventually these under-developed countries will become developed and their people will not want to immigrate to the UK and at the same time their population growth is falling and will likely reach below replacement level too.
The population isn’t redistributing when estimated of our carrying capacity is around 40 billion with 2023 technology.
Giving incentives for housing and families will have the added benefit and giving them more of a stake in their local community, which can affect crime, the environment, education, transport and society in many positive ways.
All of those have been tried and have failed. Money cannot fix the problem of low birth-rate. The people with the most children are from the poorest countries with the least money.
In an otherwise reasonable article, why in heavens name does Chivers have to bring up the “Climate”: “I think having more kids in Western nations will probably help, rather than hinder, our climate response“. Sort of invalidates everything else he has to say in the article doesn’t it. It’s like a broken record.
‘Some people might say that a declining population isn’t a bad thing, and that for the sake of the climate we ought to not have so many people. I disagree — I think having more kids in Western nations will probably help, rather than hinder, our climate response, on the whole.’ Note the switch from ‘a declining population’ and ‘having more kids in Western nations’. And the riders: ‘I think’, ‘probably’, ‘on the whole’. The world is overpopulated already, the population is still growing, and taking the 3Bn out of absolute poverty to a comfortable standard of living will effectively add billions more carbon footprints to the planetary load. Nigeria alone, with an already unsupportable population, will add at least another 1/2Bn people in the next 50 years. I really worry when a scientist, of all people, asserts that because someone was wrong in the past, what they forecast can never happen.
“Subsidising childcare (or helping older people retire more easily, so they can help look after their grandchildren) has a similar effect.” – I am not sure the solution is to give money only to those parents who don’t want to look after their children full-time. Simply increase child benefit.
Due to the cost of housing, many families now require two salaries just to keep the roof over their heads
They do have a similar effect! That effect is literally nothing. Neither of those have proven to have any effect on increasing birth rate.