The kind of non-enforcement of crime associated with the Left does not seem to be particularly popular with voters
Well, it was those same voters who brought people like Boudin in, so I guess it actually was pretty popular. This really isn’t a case where a politician wins on topic A and then does unrelated thing B, where a comment like “B is not particularly popular with the voters” can make sense. Boudin implemented exactly the policies he promised. What happened here is the ultra-left wing voters of California got exactly what they wanted, and then discovered it was a bad idea. Quite why they had to figure this one out the hard way is a bit unclear, but that’s what happened.
Sure, but then people don’t, say, realistically become fanatical pro-marketeers one day and radical socialists the next, and yet we have an alternation of power in most western nations. People vote on a lot of issues, are influenced by the dominant political rhetoric (empty or not), where they work (public or private sector) and most of all the desire to punish the lot actually IN power, whom they, not without reason, blame more than the opposition. The electorate (as a whole) is rarely ideologically or even logically consistent – low taxes and Scandinavian levels of welfare and social services is a popular combination!
Harry Child
1 year ago
Why on earth do you journalists refer to these left wing activists as progressives there is nothing progressive about ‘defund the police’, affirmative action or identity politics when it leads to rising crime and dirty cities. Clem Atlee called it right when he remarked There are a lot of clever people about who have no judgement
Reality. Apart from sex, which is objectively verifiable, the other “protected characteristics” in the UK Equalities Act 2010 are all open to debate. How far back does a black ancestor have to be to qualify? How many times does one need to go to church to qualify as a Christian? How many steps must you be unable to take to qualify as disabled??
Unfortunately, Michael Shellenberger, who might have received a mention here, didn’t get enough run-off votes to allow him to run against Gavin Newsom in November. His sensible anti progressive solutions to crime, homelessness and addiction would have been salutary. To quote, “We have a Statue of Liberty in the East. Now, more than ever, we need a Statue of Responsibility in the West.” The r word I guess is still just a little too radioactive for the golden state.
Martin Bollis
1 year ago
A few advanced units may have been pushed back but these people have gained a huge amount of ground in the war they’ve been fighting, without resistance, for decades.
They will consolidate their position, and, when the massed ranks of recruits being churned out by the Ivy League are in place, return to battle.
That’s a pessimistic but noteworthy view. Don’t forget that the country is also populated by Obama’s “clingers”. One day, you may appreciate the people who cling to their God and guns.
A Spetzari
1 year ago
People vote for these ideas – no matter how wrong-headed they might be – out of a sort of penance of their own privilege*.
They are in the luxury position that their own lives are just fine, so they vote for what they perceive to be “nice” and “good”.
Then later reality comes to bite them.
*I use that word carefully but specifically. Not in the vapid progressive sense.
It’s astonishing to observe the obsequiousness of upper class white guilt. In particular, the only enclave in San Francisco that voted to keep Boudin in as DA was littered by such pathetic creatures.
Actually, I suggest it should more properly be ‘….reality comes to bite others.’ Boudin’s supporters were of a class that was largely removed from any risk so could impose this Soros inspired ultra-progressive experiment onto others with little comeback.
JP Martin
1 year ago
This doesn’t sound that encouraging to me. What will be accomplished if Caruso and some other Republican-lights get elected? At best it makes the problems less acute but that only prolongs the agony. Sadly, I think the best thing for California would be for these insane policies to reach their natural conclusions. It will be very ugly if it happens. I have lived in California and the people there are like cult members or drug addicts (I met many who are both, actually). They will need to hit rock bottom to reconsider their deranged worldview. Until reality punches them in the face, they won’t learn.
Please specify what is ‘deranged’ in the progressive worldview? What should replace it, the conservative view that there is a Great Chain of Being into which we are all born and where we are all stuck, with rich white males on top and the rest of us eternally assigned the job of servants to the Important People?
“the conservative view that there is a Great Chain of Being into which we are all born and where we are all stuck” I’m a lifelong conservative in my late 50’s, and have never heard that one. WTF are you talking about??!? Woke weirdo.
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
It should not be surprising how naieve most Americans are to the dangers of the left and socialism, given that they have never ever had left wing politicians in their history
Garrett R
1 year ago
Whichever party seizes the perception of the “rational and sensible” will run the table. Ds could win both houses comfortably if they adopted a reasonable border policy, did more on housing, proposed a slightly more restrictive abortion policy, and toned down the student debt rhetoric.
Rs could win if they didn’t give in to the absolute extremes of gun enthusiasts or pro life crowds and if they could push an actual economic plan that’s not from the 1980s. Tax cuts and deregulation aren’t the kind of treatment needed. America is in more of a 1940s-1950s need for rejuvenation. Much larger scale.
Well, it was those same voters who brought people like Boudin in, so I guess it actually was pretty popular. This really isn’t a case where a politician wins on topic A and then does unrelated thing B, where a comment like “B is not particularly popular with the voters” can make sense. Boudin implemented exactly the policies he promised. What happened here is the ultra-left wing voters of California got exactly what they wanted, and then discovered it was a bad idea. Quite why they had to figure this one out the hard way is a bit unclear, but that’s what happened.
They got mugged by reality and then they got mugged by muggers!
Yup.
Sure, but then people don’t, say, realistically become fanatical pro-marketeers one day and radical socialists the next, and yet we have an alternation of power in most western nations. People vote on a lot of issues, are influenced by the dominant political rhetoric (empty or not), where they work (public or private sector) and most of all the desire to punish the lot actually IN power, whom they, not without reason, blame more than the opposition. The electorate (as a whole) is rarely ideologically or even logically consistent – low taxes and Scandinavian levels of welfare and social services is a popular combination!
Why on earth do you journalists refer to these left wing activists as progressives there is nothing progressive about ‘defund the police’, affirmative action or identity politics when it leads to rising crime and dirty cities. Clem Atlee called it right when he remarked
There are a lot of clever people about who have no judgement
Exactly. Hence my definition of woke: the authoritarian pseudo-progressive usurpation of liberalism.
…you get an “A” for appul for that one.
Er … thanks … I think …
What would you replace ‘identity politics’ with?
In the US, the Declaration of Independence might be a helpful reference. Self evident truths and all that.
Reality. Apart from sex, which is objectively verifiable, the other “protected characteristics” in the UK Equalities Act 2010 are all open to debate. How far back does a black ancestor have to be to qualify? How many times does one need to go to church to qualify as a Christian? How many steps must you be unable to take to qualify as disabled??
Reality and common sense
…politics for people?
Unfortunately, Michael Shellenberger, who might have received a mention here, didn’t get enough run-off votes to allow him to run against Gavin Newsom in November. His sensible anti progressive solutions to crime, homelessness and addiction would have been salutary. To quote, “We have a Statue of Liberty in the East. Now, more than ever, we need a Statue of Responsibility in the West.” The r word I guess is still just a little too radioactive for the golden state.
A few advanced units may have been pushed back but these people have gained a huge amount of ground in the war they’ve been fighting, without resistance, for decades.
They will consolidate their position, and, when the massed ranks of recruits being churned out by the Ivy League are in place, return to battle.
That’s a pessimistic but noteworthy view. Don’t forget that the country is also populated by Obama’s “clingers”. One day, you may appreciate the people who cling to their God and guns.
People vote for these ideas – no matter how wrong-headed they might be – out of a sort of penance of their own privilege*.
They are in the luxury position that their own lives are just fine, so they vote for what they perceive to be “nice” and “good”.
Then later reality comes to bite them.
*I use that word carefully but specifically. Not in the vapid progressive sense.
There is nothing so powerful in current politics as liberal white guilt, especially from upper middle class liberals.
It’s astonishing to observe the obsequiousness of upper class white guilt. In particular, the only enclave in San Francisco that voted to keep Boudin in as DA was littered by such pathetic creatures.
Actually, I suggest it should more properly be ‘….reality comes to bite others.’ Boudin’s supporters were of a class that was largely removed from any risk so could impose this Soros inspired ultra-progressive experiment onto others with little comeback.
This doesn’t sound that encouraging to me. What will be accomplished if Caruso and some other Republican-lights get elected? At best it makes the problems less acute but that only prolongs the agony. Sadly, I think the best thing for California would be for these insane policies to reach their natural conclusions. It will be very ugly if it happens. I have lived in California and the people there are like cult members or drug addicts (I met many who are both, actually). They will need to hit rock bottom to reconsider their deranged worldview. Until reality punches them in the face, they won’t learn.
Please specify what is ‘deranged’ in the progressive worldview? What should replace it, the conservative view that there is a Great Chain of Being into which we are all born and where we are all stuck, with rich white males on top and the rest of us eternally assigned the job of servants to the Important People?
Shades of gray, not be you.
Define “woman”.
“the conservative view that there is a Great Chain of Being into which we are all born and where we are all stuck”
I’m a lifelong conservative in my late 50’s, and have never heard that one. WTF are you talking about??!? Woke weirdo.
It should not be surprising how naieve most Americans are to the dangers of the left and socialism, given that they have never ever had left wing politicians in their history
Whichever party seizes the perception of the “rational and sensible” will run the table. Ds could win both houses comfortably if they adopted a reasonable border policy, did more on housing, proposed a slightly more restrictive abortion policy, and toned down the student debt rhetoric.
Rs could win if they didn’t give in to the absolute extremes of gun enthusiasts or pro life crowds and if they could push an actual economic plan that’s not from the 1980s. Tax cuts and deregulation aren’t the kind of treatment needed. America is in more of a 1940s-1950s need for rejuvenation. Much larger scale.
Qui carpet terram centram victor ludorum.
You’re wrong about Austin. Last fall we trounced the ‘give the cops all the money’ Astroturf initiative. We’re not going Red any time soon.