According to the Mankind Initiative website one in three victims of domestic abuse is male.
Adrian
3 years ago
I think the police officer is right.
A joined up approach would be to have a fast track to social services where there is worrying behaviour but no violence, and a fast track back to the police where social services think there is an issue.
Social workers are better trained at handling non-violent incidents, and specialism can’t be a bad thing.
Marion Fallon
3 years ago
Strange how the police have time & resources to go to people’s homes, arrest them for saying the wrong thing on Twitter, especially those refusing to say “Trans women are real women”?? They will & have come out in large numbers to be at disability protests in London & elsewhere, many in wheelchairs & walking aids. Yes, we’re really “dangerous”. So I have no time for the police at all & sick of the endless excuses made for them. I reported a disability hate crime to my local Norfolk constabulary & it was a waste of time, bureaucratic & wouldn’t bother doing so again.
Sheryl Rhodes
3 years ago
Yes, “take the issue of coercive control.” I am at a complete loss to imagine what police officers would be expected to do if called by someone alleging that they have been subjected to coercive control–besides refer the complaintant to other agencies that are more likely to provide help!
John Jones
3 years ago
Your entire argument assumes that only women can be victims of DV.
The actual science however, shows that females initiate 50% of domestic abuse, and are responsible for 50% of the abuse of children. Thirty-eight to fourty-five percent of victims suffering physical damage are men, depending on the study. Only in one metric, violence leading to death, are women disproportionately victims.
Feminists have been pushing the narrative for years that only women are victims, and only men are perpetrators. I am all in favour of ending DV as far as that’s possible, but until femi sits acknowledge their gender bias in this debate, not much will change.
Problem is that men are almost always stronger than women so can inflict far more physical damage. Plus often have more power in terms of money etc. Women will slap kids more as they are the ones who are mostly looking after them. It’s complex!
Edward De Beukelaer
2 years ago
This discussion should also look at how society can improve domestic relations. Humans are the most violent species in relation of behaviour of men to women according to an essay by Pascal Picq (Ehttps://thecanadian.news/2020/11/09/pascal-picq-the-males-of-our-species-are-among-the-most-violent-primates-towards-their-females-the-women/)
Although the police has the duty of protecting the public and make sure legislation is applied, there is no way the police will change much to domestic abuse in general. This will only come with the evolution of humanity…. not going to happen tomorrow, sadly. This evolution of humanity has to also happen in the police of course, and there is where the police should ‘set the example’ in all the ways it can.
You seem keen to tout the scientific impossibility of blind, random evolution coming to the rescue but look at how this ‘pinnacle primate’ still acts after ????illion years. A bit like the coelacanth/horseshoe crab/komodo dragon/sandhill crane/aardvark/tuatura/lions/purple frog/platypus/hag fish/hoatzin etc etc etc – not much change there, either. But give it time….yawn.
Karl Juhnke
2 years ago
DV will continue because feminists never want to see the end of money flowing to them. More money will be wasted because the feminist approach is wrong.
According to the Mankind Initiative website one in three victims of domestic abuse is male.
I think the police officer is right.
A joined up approach would be to have a fast track to social services where there is worrying behaviour but no violence, and a fast track back to the police where social services think there is an issue.
Social workers are better trained at handling non-violent incidents, and specialism can’t be a bad thing.
Strange how the police have time & resources to go to people’s homes, arrest them for saying the wrong thing on Twitter, especially those refusing to say “Trans women are real women”?? They will & have come out in large numbers to be at disability protests in London & elsewhere, many in wheelchairs & walking aids. Yes, we’re really “dangerous”. So I have no time for the police at all & sick of the endless excuses made for them. I reported a disability hate crime to my local Norfolk constabulary & it was a waste of time, bureaucratic & wouldn’t bother doing so again.
Yes, “take the issue of coercive control.” I am at a complete loss to imagine what police officers would be expected to do if called by someone alleging that they have been subjected to coercive control–besides refer the complaintant to other agencies that are more likely to provide help!
Your entire argument assumes that only women can be victims of DV.
The actual science however, shows that females initiate 50% of domestic abuse, and are responsible for 50% of the abuse of children. Thirty-eight to fourty-five percent of victims suffering physical damage are men, depending on the study. Only in one metric, violence leading to death, are women disproportionately victims.
Feminists have been pushing the narrative for years that only women are victims, and only men are perpetrators. I am all in favour of ending DV as far as that’s possible, but until femi sits acknowledge their gender bias in this debate, not much will change.
“Only in one metric, violence leading to death, are women disproportionately victims.”
Quite a significant one don’t you think?
Yes. But not the only aspect of DV that is important. In terms of actual numbers, it is a minor part of the issue.
Problem is that men are almost always stronger than women so can inflict far more physical damage. Plus often have more power in terms of money etc. Women will slap kids more as they are the ones who are mostly looking after them. It’s complex!
This discussion should also look at how society can improve domestic relations. Humans are the most violent species in relation of behaviour of men to women according to an essay by Pascal Picq (Ehttps://thecanadian.news/2020/11/09/pascal-picq-the-males-of-our-species-are-among-the-most-violent-primates-towards-their-females-the-women/)
Although the police has the duty of protecting the public and make sure legislation is applied, there is no way the police will change much to domestic abuse in general. This will only come with the evolution of humanity…. not going to happen tomorrow, sadly. This evolution of humanity has to also happen in the police of course, and there is where the police should ‘set the example’ in all the ways it can.
You seem keen to tout the scientific impossibility of blind, random evolution coming to the rescue but look at how this ‘pinnacle primate’ still acts after ????illion years. A bit like the coelacanth/horseshoe crab/komodo dragon/sandhill crane/aardvark/tuatura/lions/purple frog/platypus/hag fish/hoatzin etc etc etc – not much change there, either. But give it time….yawn.
DV will continue because feminists never want to see the end of money flowing to them. More money will be wasted because the feminist approach is wrong.