Basically between those who agree with everything EU says and does (mostly voters of PO whose leader is Donald Tusk) and those who, while in favour of EU, regard certain areas of policy as outside of EU remit.
One example are judicial appointments.
In wider context it is battle between social and cultural liberals and conservatives over issues like abortion and LGBT.
This unity around defence and foreign policy re Russia is fairly new.
The PO government under Donald Tusk from 2007 to 2015 was quite passive towards Russia aggression in Georgia and Crimea with some cynic claiming it was just following orders from Berlin.
rick stubbs
2 years ago
Militarism seems a little clic baited. Let us say the Poles plan to defend themselves very actively against a former oppressor and occupier state. The Germans have neutered themselves militarily for years, along with many other EU states. NATO is a alliance of military powers but it’s most cherished strategy is hiding behind US arms. If you want to survive nationally in a tough neighborhood, build a national army. It isn’t complicated.
I would note that the former Polish Lithuanian empire included Belarus and Western Ukraine prior to the Russian empire’s encroachment in the late 1700’s. The Russian historical claim to these regions is less valid than Poland’s. This UKR special operation is basically a re-colonial strategy originally advanced by the Czars and extended by the Red Army in WW2. They want passive client states like Belarus but only weak states must comply.
As the author notes, the Poles routed the new Red Army in 1922. Putin et al might recall that event. And they must know now, if not 60 days ago, that their Russian army could be no match for a rearmed German/Polish/EU force supported by US. An army that can’t roll up Eastern UKR with the advantages of flanking positions, short supply lines and safe harbor from Air Force bombing of staging areas, supply bases and armored columns is a weak force and growing weaker. Russia is in danger of becoming a rump state which issues nuclear threats – like N Korea.
Last edited 2 years ago by rick stubbs
Ted Ditchburn
2 years ago
I don’t think that *militarism* is the right word for a country bang next to Russia (or it’s sock puppet Belarus anyway) seeing what’s going on and deciding to beef up its defences.
It has become loaded..loaded onto a bandwagon with right-wing, far right, even further far right, and fascism that old fashioned Marxists, now less happy to speak their name, clatter around on.
Well done, Poland, a country the UK could learn from.
Hmm… perhaps sleep a little more easy / easily
I will rephrase: I do like the idea of a solid defense, but the Polish president currently seems to intend to start a bigger war.
“the bitterly divided country” — sorry, what is the nature of the bitter division in Poland?
Basically between those who agree with everything EU says and does (mostly voters of PO whose leader is Donald Tusk) and those who, while in favour of EU, regard certain areas of policy as outside of EU remit.
One example are judicial appointments.
In wider context it is battle between social and cultural liberals and conservatives over issues like abortion and LGBT.
This unity around defence and foreign policy re Russia is fairly new.
The PO government under Donald Tusk from 2007 to 2015 was quite passive towards Russia aggression in Georgia and Crimea with some cynic claiming it was just following orders from Berlin.
Militarism seems a little clic baited. Let us say the Poles plan to defend themselves very actively against a former oppressor and occupier state. The Germans have neutered themselves militarily for years, along with many other EU states. NATO is a alliance of military powers but it’s most cherished strategy is hiding behind US arms. If you want to survive nationally in a tough neighborhood, build a national army. It isn’t complicated.
I would note that the former Polish Lithuanian empire included Belarus and Western Ukraine prior to the Russian empire’s encroachment in the late 1700’s. The Russian historical claim to these regions is less valid than Poland’s. This UKR special operation is basically a re-colonial strategy originally advanced by the Czars and extended by the Red Army in WW2. They want passive client states like Belarus but only weak states must comply.
As the author notes, the Poles routed the new Red Army in 1922. Putin et al might recall that event. And they must know now, if not 60 days ago, that their Russian army could be no match for a rearmed German/Polish/EU force supported by US. An army that can’t roll up Eastern UKR with the advantages of flanking positions, short supply lines and safe harbor from Air Force bombing of staging areas, supply bases and armored columns is a weak force and growing weaker. Russia is in danger of becoming a rump state which issues nuclear threats – like N Korea.
I don’t think that *militarism* is the right word for a country bang next to Russia (or it’s sock puppet Belarus anyway) seeing what’s going on and deciding to beef up its defences.
It has become loaded..loaded onto a bandwagon with right-wing, far right, even further far right, and fascism that old fashioned Marxists, now less happy to speak their name, clatter around on.