it is about time females stood up for themselves and well done Maya Forstater. All the hard won rights of women should not be overturned by a vanishingly small percentage of hardline trans activists. I have no problem with trans people, but as usual people push too far to the extremes. I have a problem with children being tampered with, with biological men participating in female sports and biological men being accepted into women’s spaces on the basis of a gender declaration.
It seems that trans – women are on the attack and that trans – men do not seem to be a big part of the debate.
Jon Redman
2 years ago
To me this is a bit like reading about the Eastern Front from 1941 to 1945, or the Iran-Iraq War of 1979 to 1989. I always come away wishing there had been a way for both sides to lose.
Julie’s been spewing bile for decades. Now for a change she’s having bile spewed at her, by people with more victim status points and who can insult her and her tribe with total impunity.
Who was it again who lowered the tone of public debate to this level? Let me guess, was it men?
You’d need a heart of stone not to laugh.
Jon you clearly haven’t been following this actually NON debate. Google terfisaslur for starters. Facebook bans for simply saying (truthfully) that sex cannot be changed it’s coded in every cell. Look at what happened to JKR.
Francis MacGabhann
2 years ago
There IS no middle ground on this issue.
George Glashan
2 years ago
“In a climate of unbridled misogyny” ? these are women’s groups infighting , are they oppressing themselves and other women now?
when your only tool is a hammer all you see are nails eh Julie?
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Simon Coulthard
2 years ago
Given that a single google search shows that there are 72 genders, 52 genders and 112 genders, we’re in the minority ladies and gentlemen so please tread carefully
Margaret Tudeau-Clayton
2 years ago
Many thanks Julie for this lucid piece. It is a contrast to the earlier piece today by Mary Harrington who for once seems confused (or at least confusing) about feminists and biological sex.
Sharon Overy
2 years ago
… the war between trans-activists and feminists.
This is disingenuous – the majority of trans-activists are women. Feminist women. You may make “no true Scotsman” claims, but you are probably in agreement with the trans-activists on every single other issue. It’s your own tribe that split. Please stop pretending otherwise.
GC women understand intersectionality very well. It’s the libfems who keep telling us that men are a type of women and equating our preference for just a few single sex spaces to wanting to exclude Black women from white women’s facilities. So much misogyny.
it is about time females stood up for themselves and well done Maya Forstater. All the hard won rights of women should not be overturned by a vanishingly small percentage of hardline trans activists. I have no problem with trans people, but as usual people push too far to the extremes. I have a problem with children being tampered with, with biological men participating in female sports and biological men being accepted into women’s spaces on the basis of a gender declaration.
It seems that trans – women are on the attack and that trans – men do not seem to be a big part of the debate.
To me this is a bit like reading about the Eastern Front from 1941 to 1945, or the Iran-Iraq War of 1979 to 1989. I always come away wishing there had been a way for both sides to lose.
Julie’s been spewing bile for decades. Now for a change she’s having bile spewed at her, by people with more victim status points and who can insult her and her tribe with total impunity.
Who was it again who lowered the tone of public debate to this level? Let me guess, was it men?
You’d need a heart of stone not to laugh.
Jon you clearly haven’t been following this actually NON debate. Google terfisaslur for starters. Facebook bans for simply saying (truthfully) that sex cannot be changed it’s coded in every cell. Look at what happened to JKR.
There IS no middle ground on this issue.
“In a climate of unbridled misogyny” ? these are women’s groups infighting , are they oppressing themselves and other women now?
when your only tool is a hammer all you see are nails eh Julie?
Given that a single google search shows that there are 72 genders, 52 genders and 112 genders, we’re in the minority ladies and gentlemen so please tread carefully
Many thanks Julie for this lucid piece. It is a contrast to the earlier piece today by Mary Harrington who for once seems confused (or at least confusing) about feminists and biological sex.
This is disingenuous – the majority of trans-activists are women. Feminist women. You may make “no true Scotsman” claims, but you are probably in agreement with the trans-activists on every single other issue. It’s your own tribe that split. Please stop pretending otherwise.
No the majority of trans activists are men who claim to be women. Big difference.
Well to be fair, there are the handmaidens.
Sharon you obviously haven’t seen the the pitched battles being fought between feminists and trans activists.
The trans-activists, and I mean female ones, are also feminists! They’re just ‘intersectional’ ones rather than’gender critical’ ones.
GC women understand intersectionality very well. It’s the libfems who keep telling us that men are a type of women and equating our preference for just a few single sex spaces to wanting to exclude Black women from white women’s facilities. So much misogyny.