The expectations of Polish conservatives re the dynamic and direction of the EU were not confined to them. I remember voting in favour of joining what was then the EEC, as a free trade bloc, a sensible and profitable mutual arrangement. I didn’t vote for a court which could override the decisions of national law, or to have enforced alien concepts of morality and behaviour on an incredulous and increasingly resentful population.
The Visigrad nations have had a lot to gain from economic subsidy, and access to higher wage economies. It seems, though, as if their sense of self may not be for sale.
“I remember voting in favour of joining what was then the EEC, as a free trade bloc, a sensible and profitable mutual arrangement. I didn’t vote for a court which could override the decisions of national law, or to have enforced alien concepts of morality and behaviour on an incredulous and increasingly resentful population.” Exactly.
Cheryl Jones
2 years ago
That’s it EU. Keep pushing… Poland, Hungary, Italy, France. Michel Barnier, that hypocrite of hypocrites, is running on a ticket of anti immigration and looser ties with the EU structures, what the hell?
George Glashan
2 years ago
Well the Polish are 20 years overdue for an invasion from a German Empire … checks notes … now rebranded as The EU
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Dustin Needle
2 years ago
A rather nice bit of political trolling by Liz Truss the other day – including the Visegrad 4 in our list of allies, but not the EU. Beff Rigby was FUMIN’…
And if you look at the UK’s current skills shortage in the labour market, the loss of workers from Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia has made a big difference. An impressive proportion of their young people are skilled, well educated, multi-lingual and have excellent inter-personal skills. I know the BBC tried to persuade it’s viewers that Brexiteers are attacking Poles, but that turned out to be another porkie, which we all knew anyway. And where older Brits really are prejudiced, is our instinct to stand with people whose ancestors fought proper fascists and know what actual oppression and totalitarianism looks like. So for all their dominance, the EU should be mindful of Niobe’s final comment on this page – “their sense of self may not be for sale”. Gdansk was only 40 years ago. Poland is a country not averse to giving tectonic plates a nudge.
Solidarność!
Ian Barton
2 years ago
This verdict may really have been a test case for Germany, who are in a similar legal battle with the EU.
Seems like bizarre “poacher and gamekeeper” stuff …
Julian Farrows
2 years ago
It seems that antipathy toward LGBQT causes has increased ever since the movement stopped being a grass-roots one and weaponized itself into an ideological one imposed from on up high.
David McDowell
2 years ago
Well Germany pays the piper. So Poland can either suck it up or leave.
The expectations of Polish conservatives re the dynamic and direction of the EU were not confined to them. I remember voting in favour of joining what was then the EEC, as a free trade bloc, a sensible and profitable mutual arrangement. I didn’t vote for a court which could override the decisions of national law, or to have enforced alien concepts of morality and behaviour on an incredulous and increasingly resentful population.
The Visigrad nations have had a lot to gain from economic subsidy, and access to higher wage economies. It seems, though, as if their sense of self may not be for sale.
“I remember voting in favour of joining what was then the EEC, as a free trade bloc, a sensible and profitable mutual arrangement. I didn’t vote for a court which could override the decisions of national law, or to have enforced alien concepts of morality and behaviour on an incredulous and increasingly resentful population.”
Exactly.
That’s it EU. Keep pushing… Poland, Hungary, Italy, France. Michel Barnier, that hypocrite of hypocrites, is running on a ticket of anti immigration and looser ties with the EU structures, what the hell?
Well the Polish are 20 years overdue for an invasion from a
German Empire… checks notes … now rebranded as The EUA rather nice bit of political trolling by Liz Truss the other day – including the Visegrad 4 in our list of allies, but not the EU. Beff Rigby was FUMIN’…
And if you look at the UK’s current skills shortage in the labour market, the loss of workers from Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia has made a big difference. An impressive proportion of their young people are skilled, well educated, multi-lingual and have excellent inter-personal skills.
I know the BBC tried to persuade it’s viewers that Brexiteers are attacking Poles, but that turned out to be another porkie, which we all knew anyway. And where older Brits really are prejudiced, is our instinct to stand with people whose ancestors fought proper fascists and know what actual oppression and totalitarianism looks like.
So for all their dominance, the EU should be mindful of Niobe’s final comment on this page – “their sense of self may not be for sale”. Gdansk was only 40 years ago. Poland is a country not averse to giving tectonic plates a nudge.
Solidarność!
This verdict may really have been a test case for Germany, who are in a similar legal battle with the EU.
Seems like bizarre “poacher and gamekeeper” stuff …
It seems that antipathy toward LGBQT causes has increased ever since the movement stopped being a grass-roots one and weaponized itself into an ideological one imposed from on up high.
Well Germany pays the piper. So Poland can either suck it up or leave.