I think the pro lockdown side rather lost the argument when they not only allowed but encouraged law breaking protestors during their lockdowns – as long as those protestors had the ‘right’ politics.
7882 fremic
3 years ago
OMG, “Thanksgiving itself has long been poised to join Columbus Day in the annals of problematic holidays: considering how things ended for the natives with whom the first colonists dined, should we even be celebrating at all?”
It is a celebration of having one’s needs met, of being thankful of the bounty nature and society bring to allow families to prosper in a world where one cannot survive alone. Thanksgiving is really the World’s most perfect holiday, it is one of gathering together to appreciate having the means to make it, family and community and society celebrating each other’s presence, and some luxuries to enjoy. Thanking nature and man’s work and family that we take for granted most of the year.
Would you not celebrate VE and VJ day as it ended terribly for the non-combatants of those nations? Not all is about the victims. It is good to be grateful for what we have which is good, not always wear sack cloth and ashes.
I always have a Turkey dinner of all the traditional things, but this year my family is stuck in London Lockdown and I cannot go there, and they cannot come here, so it is the dogs, wife, and I over a big turkey dinner, which still is wonderful, my very favorite holiday!
People in Germany celebrate it. Canada has one, too, only a month early so they won’t get lost in the snow on their way to Grandma’s. As for VE and VJ, I’ve gone back to celebrating Armistice Day.
Meanwhile the media is promoting Black Friday deals and encouraging people to go out and shop.
Mark Lilly
3 years ago
This looks quite interesting. Is there a version in English, and without the repellant trendy/meaningless jargon?
Andre Lower
3 years ago
Let’s see: Kat’s article last paragraph enunciated the advice to avoid Thanksgiving travel as an assault on individual liberties, rather than the painfully, obviously sound advice that it is on the grounds of public health. And Kat has the nerve of stating that “everything gets politicized these days”! Kat is the one politicizing a clearly non-political piece of sound advice. She digs up a hole, then complains about it and places a warning sign “beware of the hole” besides it… The only political bit of the article is Kat’s shameless defense of her own ignorance – “you blue people are oppressing me because I am proud of my ignorance!”. So here’s the deal Kat: you are free to enjoy your precious ignorance as much as you want, except when it causes harm to other citizens. And there is nothing political in this arrangement, it is called civilization. You’re welcome.
Definition of civilization: a highly developed culture, including its social organization, government, laws, and arts, or the culture of a social group or country at a particular time. So which one of America’s civilizations is right and which one is wrong?
“And there is nothing political in this arrangement, it is called civilization.”Civilization is Political! That is what it is. In Sparta they exposed the frail elderly to the elements to kill them, as they did to any baby lacking perfection to keep resources for the strong (If I remember rightly, as did the Inuit and many others).
Now in the West we sacrifice the young (loss of never to be recovered education, and health screenings, and beginning jobs) to preserve the extremely frail elderly. Lots of kinds of civilization. Your chauvinistic belief in the one which exists in your mind does not mean it is superior to other possible ones. Lots of things need taken in, not just the old ‘If it saves one life….’
I think the pro lockdown side rather lost the argument when they not only allowed but encouraged law breaking protestors during their lockdowns – as long as those protestors had the ‘right’ politics.
OMG, “Thanksgiving itself has long been poised to join Columbus Day in the
annals of problematic holidays: considering how things ended for the
natives with whom the first colonists dined, should we even be
celebrating at all?”
It is a celebration of having one’s needs met, of being thankful of the bounty nature and society bring to allow families to prosper in a world where one cannot survive alone. Thanksgiving is really the World’s most perfect holiday, it is one of gathering together to appreciate having the means to make it, family and community and society celebrating each other’s presence, and some luxuries to enjoy. Thanking nature and man’s work and family that we take for granted most of the year.
Would you not celebrate VE and VJ day as it ended terribly for the non-combatants of those nations? Not all is about the victims. It is good to be grateful for what we have which is good, not always wear sack cloth and ashes.
I always have a Turkey dinner of all the traditional things, but this year my family is stuck in London Lockdown and I cannot go there, and they cannot come here, so it is the dogs, wife, and I over a big turkey dinner, which still is wonderful, my very favorite holiday!
Is Thanksgiving celebrated in UK? Or are you an American?
People in Germany celebrate it. Canada has one, too, only a month early so they won’t get lost in the snow on their way to Grandma’s. As for VE and VJ, I’ve gone back to celebrating Armistice Day.
I am an American, although also a multinational.
Meanwhile the media is promoting Black Friday deals and encouraging people to go out and shop.
This looks quite interesting. Is there a version in English, and without the repellant trendy/meaningless jargon?
Let’s see: Kat’s article last paragraph enunciated the advice to avoid Thanksgiving travel as an assault on individual liberties, rather than the painfully, obviously sound advice that it is on the grounds of public health. And Kat has the nerve of stating that “everything gets politicized these days”!
Kat is the one politicizing a clearly non-political piece of sound advice. She digs up a hole, then complains about it and places a warning sign “beware of the hole” besides it…
The only political bit of the article is Kat’s shameless defense of her own ignorance – “you blue people are oppressing me because I am proud of my ignorance!”.
So here’s the deal Kat: you are free to enjoy your precious ignorance as much as you want, except when it causes harm to other citizens. And there is nothing political in this arrangement, it is called civilization. You’re welcome.
Definition of civilization: a highly developed culture, including its social organization, government, laws, and arts, or the culture of a social group or country at a particular time. So which one of America’s civilizations is right and which one is wrong?
“And there is nothing political in this arrangement, it is called civilization.”Civilization is Political! That is what it is. In Sparta they exposed the frail elderly to the elements to kill them, as they did to any baby lacking perfection to keep resources for the strong (If I remember rightly, as did the Inuit and many others).
Now in the West we sacrifice the young (loss of never to be recovered education, and health screenings, and beginning jobs) to preserve the extremely frail elderly. Lots of kinds of civilization. Your chauvinistic belief in the one which exists in your mind does not mean it is superior to other possible ones. Lots of things need taken in, not just the old ‘If it saves one life….’